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    I do not see the issue. Hindutva was also internationally banned by NHRC, along with USA and UK banning Modi. More so books on Hindutva were banned : CLICK HERE

    Pakistan stays on the same list, allegedly, is news?

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    Quote Originally Posted by R3verse Swing View Post
    I do not see the issue. Hindutva was also internationally banned by NHRC, along with USA and UK banning Modi. More so books on Hindutva were banned : CLICK HERE

    Pakistan stays on the same list, allegedly, is news?
    what are you talking about? how is, whatever you are linking, it relevant here? I just posted an update from Pak media about what Indian media has been reporting. Lots of posters thought Indian media was misreporting and once the dust settled down, Pak Govt is slowly releasing true story... I was just pointing out that it was wrong to attack the messenger without taking time to address the message

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gubol123 View Post
    what are you talking about? how is, whatever you are linking, it relevant here? I just posted an update from Pak media about what Indian media has been reporting. Lots of posters thought Indian media was misreporting and once the dust settled down, Pak Govt is slowly releasing true story... I was just pointing out that it was wrong to attack the messenger without taking time to address the message
    Well the relevance is simple. Let's grant the notion that Pakistan is put on a watch list for funding Terrorism. It's no where near as putting an ideology on a BANNED list, along with its apologist leader - current Indian PM.

    So Indians should think twice before celebrating.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    But but but @Lonewarrior says its not true.
    few Indians have some serious OCD issue with pakistan, dont have anything to do on the forum, only come here to troll or gloat about pakistan.
    i said in my previous posts that pakistan isnt on the list, yet. becoz the official source of FATF didnt mention any name. if they gonna add the country name in july ,so be it.
    as i said before many times, pakistan was on the grey list back in 2012-2015, so what the worse they will do this time ?
    now take a chill pill and find some negative news about pakistan on your favt Dawn to create another thread. Ok ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by R3verse Swing View Post
    Well the relevance is simple. Let's grant the notion that Pakistan is put on a watch list for funding Terrorism. It's no where near as putting an ideology on a BANNED list, along with its apologist leader - current Indian PM.

    So Indians should think twice before celebrating.

    talk about clutching the straws.. man get out of your basement and understand how world perceives Pakistan. Anyway there is no point talking to someone who has no open mind to receive new ideas and opinions... Enjoy your day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gubol123 View Post
    talk about clutching the straws.. man get out of your basement and understand how world perceives Pakistan. Anyway there is no point talking to someone who has no open mind to receive new ideas and opinions... Enjoy your day
    You fail to understand the point, how the world perceived India yet you have Indian chest thumping in the thread? Celebrating for joy? Those who forget their past are condemned to repeat it. No wait . . .


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    What I find fascinating is how Indian posters expect news that is to materialise in June, as Gospel, from a Pakistani source. Kind of like saying India were going to win the CT17 before the final based on India media!


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    Quote Originally Posted by R3verse Swing View Post
    What I find fascinating is how Indian posters expect news that is to materialise in June, as Gospel, from a Pakistani source. Kind of like saying India were going to win the CT17 before the final based on India media!

    Indians ki choti choti khushiya ,,


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonewarrior View Post
    Indians ki choti choti khushiya ,,
    Tumko to wo bhi nahi milti. Cane bragging in this thread about Russian support. Now staring at a grey listing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Khan bhai how was this stopped?
    we were going straight onto the black list. We have managed to get a reprieve till June. But its still a pathetic performance from our govt. but thats ok lets talk about Imrans new wife instead..

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    http://www.atimes.com/article/pakist...ror-financing/

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    With Pakistan set to be placed on the inter-governmental Financial Action Task Force’s “grey” list this June, following a round of farcical diplomacy in Paris last month, the country appears to be edging toward global banking isolation.

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    Farrukh Saleem says the financial backlash following an FATF grey-listing this time round would be a lot different. “It’s not the same world as it was 2012-2015,” he maintains. “Considering the penalty given to HBL, many financial institutions would be wary of investing in Pakistan. They won’t be able to bare the economic backlash of similar penalties, if all they’re making is up to US$10-20 million in the country.”

    Salman Shah says the banking flaws in Pakistan have been well-exposed by the FATF report.

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    I guess our Pakistani friends will now tell us that Asia Times is an Indian media outlet and are therefore lying?!

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    This thread, I don't think it is a good sign for India that their closest neighbor is about to be placed in a black, grey or any list such as that.. I think Indians in general calling out Pakistanis for the sake of putting them down due to this is wrong, however voicing concern is fine... I am honestly starting to believe Pakistan's salvation will be through a Chinese take over, Chinese will form a strict anti-religious control in Pakistan which will clean up the mess that it is currently in, so things like CPEC may not be a bad idea from an Indian perspective afterall.


    "Everything else seems so superfluous." ~ Albert Einstein on the Bhagavad-Gita

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Great Khan View Post
    but thats ok lets talk about Imrans new wife instead..
    I didnt even know,,, Imran got married again recently??????????????????????


    "Everything else seems so superfluous." ~ Albert Einstein on the Bhagavad-Gita

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    Gen Bajwa himself said that Pakistan has done enough,it's the world's turn to do more.So the world is doing more.

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    but but some pak poster say its nothing a issue .

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    ^ yup, still no issue.


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    "No Issue".

    Just like Baghdad Bob said "Vee are keeling the Umerikans in the streets of Baghdad".

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    Quote Originally Posted by OoparCut View Post
    "No Issue".

    Just like Baghdad Bob said "Vee are keeling the Umerikans in the streets of Baghdad".
    I am repeating it for our indian bros again, No Issue. trust me bro .


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    Quote Originally Posted by R3verse Swing View Post
    I do not see the issue. Hindutva was also internationally banned by NHRC, along with USA and UK banning Modi. More so books on Hindutva were banned : CLICK HERE

    Pakistan stays on the same list, allegedly, is news?
    Typical pakistani mentality. Did we say islam is banned or pakistan is banned ? What do you mean hindustva banned ?? There is difference. Modi comes presently as world top 5 leaders in ranking.
    Many muslim countries like saudi arab ,iran and many more have given highest honour to modi. He even landed to pakistan without visa i guess.
    I know you guys have been taught this since birth about religions. But your opinion in the world is equal to the n.o discovered by indians as shunay...number zero....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romali_rotti View Post
    This thread, I don't think it is a good sign for India that their closest neighbor is about to be placed in a black, grey or any list such as that.. I think Indians in general calling out Pakistanis for the sake of putting them down due to this is wrong, however voicing concern is fine... I am honestly starting to believe Pakistan's salvation will be through a Chinese take over, Chinese will form a strict anti-religious control in Pakistan which will clean up the mess that it is currently in, so things like CPEC may not be a bad idea from an Indian perspective afterall.
    I don't see why China would care about that. They just want the oil to flow smoothly from Gwadar to North West China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varun View Post
    I don't see why China would care about that. They just want the oil to flow smoothly from Gwadar to North West China.
    Its actually in China's interests to sustain the Pakistani hostility to India - its a cheap investment that pays huge dividends for them. Too bad that Pakistani awaam and their future gets screwed in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OoparCut View Post
    Its actually in China's interests to sustain the Pakistani hostility to India - its a cheap investment that pays huge dividends for them. Too bad that Pakistani awaam and their future gets screwed in the process.
    Even there they don't need to do anything. India and Pakistan are hostile by default.

    China just needs black gold transiting via Pakistan, all said and done. Anything else is a bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varun View Post
    Even there they don't need to do anything. India and Pakistan are hostile by default.
    I don't want to put words in OoparCut's mouth, but I think what he's trying to say is if China stopped underwriting Pak's hostility to India, it will become increasingly difficult for Pak to maintain a hostile pasture towards India given the yawing gap in the size of economies, which is growing every day. So China very cleverly and selectively provides threshold-level support to Pak to keep the animosity going. It's done in the form of supplying arms, funding projects like CPEC (which help China more than they help Pak) and protecting Hafeez Saeed in the UN, etc. But it stops short of taking a stance when its own (China's) interest are at stake. For example, at FATF, China wants to play a leading role. India/US told China that you can't do that if you don't fall in line re. Pakistan, so China folded, and threw Pak under the bus.

    Basically China is looking after its own interest, which it is fully entitled to. It cares two hoots about Pakistan, India, US or anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English August View Post
    I don't want to put words in OoparCut's mouth, but I think what he's trying to say is if China stopped underwriting Pak's hostility to India, it will become increasingly difficult for Pak to maintain a hostile pasture towards India given the yawing gap in the size of economies, which is growing every day. So China very cleverly and selectively provides threshold-level support to Pak to keep the animosity going. It's done in the form of supplying arms, funding projects like CPEC (which help China more than they help Pak) and protecting Hafeez Saeed in the UN, etc. But it stops short of taking a stance when its own (China's) interest are at stake. For example, at FATF, China wants to play a leading role. India/US told China that you can't do that if you don't fall in line re. Pakistan, so China folded, and threw Pak under the bus.

    Basically China is looking after its own interest, which it is fully entitled to. It cares two hoots about Pakistan, India, US or anyone else.
    No bro, we are just jealous Indians who don't like how "Iron Brother" is helping Pakistan bro.

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    Nothing surprising. Until Pakistan Army changes their way, the civilians will continue to suffer.

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    Nawaz Sharif statement just 2 weeks before June rings any bell guys? Traitor will do everything to save his money and divert media attention when we all know he is going jail soon for all the billions he made

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mian View Post
    Nawaz Sharif statement just 2 weeks before June rings any bell guys? Traitor will do everything to save his money and divert media attention when we all know he is going jail soon for all the billions he made
    but but its the army's fault for everything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Great Khan View Post
    but but its the army's fault for everything...
    True!

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    ISLAMABAD: Pakistan is putting the finishing touches to its action plan with proposed measures for combating money laundering and terror financing with the Paris-based Financial Action Task Force (FATF) to chart its way forward once it is placed on the grey list by the global watchdog in June.

    A compliance report has been submitted by the government to the Asia-Pacific Group (APG) — a sub-group within FATF — detailing the steps taken thus far and those that will be taken in the future to bring Pakistan’s financial, regulatory and legal landscape into compliance with the watchdog’s requirements.

    On Friday, a meeting was convened at the Foreign Office to review the proposed actions which are to be discussed with APG joint working group in Bangkok next week. This was the last in a series of meetings taking place within the government as officials race to meet the June deadline by when Pakistan will be placed on the FATF grey list.

    A senior official in the finance ministry told Dawn that a delegation from Pakistan would depart within the next few days for consultations with the APG’s Joint Working Group in Bangkok. That meeting will discuss the steps proposed by Pakistan to be taken after June to exit the grey list. The report has been drawn up by the Financial Monitoring Unit, a department housed in the State Bank of Pakistan, according to sources with knowledge of the matter.

    Preparations under way for next week Bangkok talks as govt term nears end

    The FATF earlier sent an email to the SBP highlighting its concerns over the amnesty scheme introduced by the government in its last budget. The email points out that Pakistan is required to inform FATF before announcing any such scheme. To address their concerns, Pakistan included a provision to specify that ‘proceeds of crime are not eligible’ for the amnesty scheme.

    The senior official confirmed to Dawn that the placement of Pakistan on the grey list was set to commence in June. He said the action plan drawn up by the government would set conditions for Pakistan to meet in a period of one year. None of those working on the matter and contacted by Dawn were willing to discuss the details of the action plan. “Whatever conditions are being finalised, we will implement it administratively,” one source said.

    The details of action plan remained under negotiation with the FATF and set to be finalised by next month, the official said.

    Pakistan had been removed from the FATF grey list in February 2015 due to improved measures to combat twin menaces of money laundering and terror financing. The key point at that time was the passage of the Anti-Money Laundering Act, 2010 into law.

    ‘Grey list is a political question’
    When approached to seek comment on the issue, Finance Minister Miftah Ismail told Dawn that his government had already taken several administrative steps complying with global standards to counter money laundering and terror financing.

    He said Pakistan’s law to counter money laundering and terror financing was the most effective and strong legislation in the region. He said Pakistan would take all administrative measures as suggested and agreed under the proposed action plan.

    However, the minister said it would be up to the FATF to remove Pakistan from the grey list or not. “It will be a political question,” he said.

    “Since then, we have held several meetings to review progress achieved on all those areas listed by FATF,” an official source privy to these development told Dawn. While the financial monitoring unit had so far generated more than 300 reports, no terror-related link was established in any of these reports, the source added.

    Under the reports, the only irregularity identified was the element of tax evasion. The investigations into the cases has also stopped owing to a court decision that struck down of the SRO that gave investigative powers to the intelligence and investigation department of Inland Revenue for anti-money laundering inquiries.

    The proposed action plan will also include capacity building of law enforcing agencies to pursue such cases. The FATF wants increased enforcement against all proscribed organisations and individuals including all those organisations operating under new names, vigilance of non-profit organisations and enhancing capacity of the law enforcing agencies.

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1408604/go...ds-before-june


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    Sach zubaan per aa he jata he beat this nooras your own leader is saying your own ministry was responsible.



    TalentSpotterPk: I pray PanamaLeak sink Sharif ship forever we dont want this pseudo democracy

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    ISLAMABAD: The National Security Committee (NSC) on Friday reaffirmed its commitment to cooperate with an international watchdog tasked with countering illicit financing, the Financial Action Task Force (FATF), for addressing shortcomings in the country’s anti-money laundering and counter-terror financing regimes.

    “The committee reaffirmed the commitment of the country to work with FATF and other international organisations in achieving common goals and shared objectives,” a statement issued by the Prime Minister Office on the NSC meeting said.

    It was the first NSC meeting that was chaired by caretaker Prime Minister Nasirul Mulk.

    Finance minister briefs National Security Committee about upcoming meeting of global money-laundering watchdog

    Pakistan would be placed on the FATF ‘grey list’ because of certain shortcomings identified by the watchdog. However, before Pakistan is put on the list an action plan has to be negotiated outlining the steps the country would be required to take. The action plan has been in the works for weeks now, but it is yet to be adopted.

    The NSC approved the presentation of the proposed plan to the FATF at its upcoming meeting.

    The NSC statement effectively constitutes the high-level political commitment that FATF requires from the country to implement the legal, regulatory and operational reforms needed.

    Finance Minister Shamshad Akhtar briefed the NSC about the upcoming FATF meeting in Paris and the measures, both administrative and legal, taken so far by the country to meet the watchdog’s requirements.

    “While reviewing various actions taken towards fulfilling country’s international responsibilities under the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) framework, the meeting expressed satisfaction over the progress made so far. The committee directed that the progress should be shared with the FATF Secretariat in the upcoming meeting,” the NSC statement said.

    Earlier, Pakistani officials had said at a background briefing that some of the demands being made by the FATF were unreasonable. Besides the main concern about the freedom with which Hafiz Saeed and his organisations were operating until a few months ago, the FATF has expressed concerns about the integrity of Pakistan’s overall financial system, the inadequacy of monitoring and regulatory mechanisms and the abysmally low conviction rate on unlawful transactions.

    The US and some of its allies like the UK, France and Germany had sponsored the move for Pakistan’s inclusion in the grey list. Washington, it is believed, had done so to pressure Islamabad into meeting its demands vis-à-vis the region, where the two are suffering from a serious strategic misalignment. Lately the two sides are making a fresh attempt at reconciling their differences and reaching a common ground.

    There has been a round of telephonic conversations between Prime Minister Mulk and US Vice President Pence and between Army Chief Gen Qamar Bajwa and Secretary of State Michael Pompeo over the past couple of days. The conversations had focused on advancing bilateral ties, supporting the peace and reconciliation process in Afghanistan, and dealing with the terrorist groups in the region.

    “The prime minister also shared with the committee members contents of his telephonic discussion with US Vice President Mike Pence on 07 June 2018,” said the NSC statement.

    Besides Mr Mulk and Ms Akhtar, the meeting was attended by Foreign and Defence Minister Abdullah Hussain Haroon, Interior Minister Azam Khan, Law Minister Syed Ali Zafar, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee Gen Zubair Mahmood Hayat, Chief of the Army Staff Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa, Chief of the Naval Staff Admiral Zafar Mahmood Abbasi, Chief of the Air Staff Air Chief Marshal Mujahid Anwar Khan, National Security Adviser retired Lt Gen Nasser Khan Janjua and Director General of the Inter-Services Intelligence Lt Gen Naveed Mukhtar.

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1412980/to...mitted-to-fatf


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