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  1. #1201
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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    What happened to Fizz, his career has gone massively downhill.
    him bowling or spinner samething

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    Quote Originally Posted by aliasad1998 View Post
    Feel bad for the LQ owner
    Me too. It's so sad, he's a great man who has done so much with his franchise.


    Lions don't lose sleep over the opinions of Sheep

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    Fizz the trundler throws the game away

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    That was one of the worst bowled super over I have seen.

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    Punjabis should back Seraiki's Mutlan now

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    IU win. And we had a great match. What a Friday!

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    Made it in time for the super over, glad to see my team get the win. Looks like it was one of the best games ever in the PSL, came at the right time for the tournament


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    So boring and embarrassing... such poor standard of cricket


    @MMHS and @Mamoon
    You said the one before was the last one. Don't feed the trolls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    WI players are so clutch, this is why we should've used Narine
    WI if at full strength would be awesome 20 20 Unit . Quality hitters in abudance.

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    Supporting Lahore is so hard

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    Poor Calender owner.

    At least he has his millions in the bank to go sleep over.

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    Narine should have bowled

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    Trundler should be given the boot ASAP.

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    Love how Misbah sucker punched Mcculum with the deep backward square and then the ball went over his head at the end back hand slap


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    Yasir Shah dropped the match at the end of the 1st innings.

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    LQ as a franchise should be dropped for PSL4 bring Kashmir Khladis in

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    Not a single yorker!!!! I had heard Mustafiz was a great bowler, that was really poor.

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    "ok our run in this tournament is on the line and we got a decent score to defend this over, should we give the ball to our most economical bowler or a trundler whos conceded almost at 10 per over, yea the latter sounds matchwinning"
    Last edited by pkckt; 2nd March 2018 at 20:38.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plumb View Post
    him bowling or spinner samething
    Is there a joke about him spinning the ball or something? I don't get it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Justcrazy View Post
    WI if at full strength would be awesome 20 20 Unit . Quality hitters in abudance.
    There's a reason why they won the World T20. Top athleticism and power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aliasad1998 View Post
    Close games doesn't mean th standard of cricket is great
    It's T20 cricket at the end of the day, every where around the world you will see similar stuff


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    Westindians are the most clutch set of cricketers ever .
    Immense self belief . Always pull of such feats when charged up.

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    The best match in entire 3 seasons of PSL so far. And possibly one of the best t20 matches ever in franchise and domestic leagues.

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    Mustafizur is a rubbish bowler.

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    Has Inzi lost some weight or is the salwar kameez hiding his tid


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    How did they not use Narine in the super over ??
    So painful supporting Lahore.

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    Mohammad Sami is an alien


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadBall View Post
    Haha, I am surprised you have survived the past 3 years.
    Lahore have got worse slowly every year, I thought that was impossible after the first season where we didn't get past the initial stage of the league, but I was wrong.

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    Baz clearly doesn't care at all, why is he even here. Oh right, because he's got good a reputation and LQ as a franchise is crashing and burning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    So boring and embarrassing... such poor standard of cricket


    @MMHS and @Mamoon
    What's your point? Yesterday a Dhaka League game was tied with Mohammedan failing to defend 286, last over went for 12 & 3 wickets ....

    Close result doesn't justify standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    What's your point? Yesterday a Dhaka League game was tied with Mohammedan failing to defend 286, last over went for 12 & 3 wickets ....

    Close result doesn't justify standard.
    Poor drafting and there is a lack of youth playing with TTF's playing consistently. It's not the league itself, just poor management and decision making by the head coach/captain/whoever is in charge of selections.

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    Giving Mustafiz last over was another blunder by Buzz - first today Mustafiz bowled poorly; then IU sent Russell who is probably the hardest hitter of anything at pace.

    Should have gone with Narine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    What's your point? Yesterday a Dhaka League game was tied with Mohammedan failing to defend 286, last over went for 12 & 3 wickets ....

    Close result doesn't justify standard.
    Do you think quality in BPL is higher lol? You seriously think that?

    IPL and BBL is one thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManFan View Post
    Yasir Shah dropped the match at the end of the 1st innings.
    Yep. Typical brainless Pakistan batting, and this guy fancies himself as an allrounder. Still, Lahore managed to find a few ways to lose it, giving Mustafiz the last over was one of them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    What's your point? Yesterday a Dhaka League game was tied with Mohammedan failing to defend 286, last over went for 12 & 3 wickets ....

    Close result doesn't justify standard.
    It's a good league with a high standard of cricket.... 90% of catches are being caught more than any other league in world. Every team has 140+ bowlers. 90+ meter sixes are being hit in every game.


    But for some "high standard" is only if 200 is hit in every match.



    The solution is simple, if you don't like it don't watch it. The league is meant for a Pakistani audience not Bangladeshi.


    #Hum apko container deingaye dharnay ke liyay

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    lets take break.will discuss tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    Poor drafting and there is a lack of youth playing with TTF's playing consistently. It's not the league itself, just poor management and decision making by the head coach/captain/whoever is in charge of selections.
    Please tell it to someone else ... Yesterday, MCity was 3-0 up inside 35 minutes at Emeritus then it was basically a time pass for both, and Guangzhou Evergrande won 5-4 against Guangzhou R&F, in Guangzhou derby, with lead changing 5 times in a soccer game - now you complete the conclusion for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    It's a good league with a high standard of cricket.... 90% of catches are being caught more than any other league in world. Every team has 140+ bowlers. 90+ meter sixes are being hit in every game.


    But for some "high standard" is only if 200 is hit in every match.



    The solution is simple, if you don't like it don't watch it. The league is meant for a Pakistani audience not Bangladeshi.
    You are running mouth again more than your grasp. Weather I like it or not, it's not your business; I can take my own decision. And, only fools thinks & quotes that standard is maintained if 200 is hit - not me.

    140+ bowler, 90+ metre SIX, catch % - these are measurement of quality - keep posting; it's entertainment indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    Do you think quality in BPL is higher lol? You seriously think that?

    IPL and BBL is one thing
    Don't put words on my mouth - quality of BPL is a headache of few PAK posters here. I haven't seen anyone discussing that.

    Close game doesn't indicate quality - that Dhaka League game was to explain that.

    I do think Dhaka Dynamite, Rangpur Raider & Comilla Victorians are better T20 teams than every PSL team barring KK - but you don't need to buy that, you are welcome to disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Please tell it to someone else ... Yesterday, MCity was 3-0 up inside 35 minutes at Emeritus then it was basically a time pass for both, and Guangzhou Evergrande won 5-4 against Guangzhou R&F, in Guangzhou derby, with lead changing 5 times in a soccer game - now you complete the conclusion for me.
    I get it. You're trying to say that the CSL had a close, back to back game, but without any quality in it so it was still poor, while the PL game was much better in quality but wasn't close at all, but you'd still rather watch that.

    However, the gap between the PSL and other T20 leagues is no where near as big as the gap between the CSL and PL. If you think otherwise you're just delusional.

    I just don't see how you don't get the fact that some people enjoy the PSL FOR A REASON and that it's not actually as bad as you make it out to be.
    Last edited by WC-Passion; 2nd March 2018 at 21:09.

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    I don't understand why people are cursing Mustafiz here. It's not to back him, but here I read PSL's fielding as a determining factor for the "standard" of the cricket - then in Super over, a catch is converted to SIX, then Russel was brought to strike with a basic fielding error by WK!!!!

    Not sure, how to determine standard of cricket from close game, but for such high standard, 1st 4 balls, scorecard should have read like -

    1 W Dot Dot......... which would have required 2 SIX & a FOUR in last 2 balls.

    Obviously, we can talk about 90% catch success (probably 89% now, for that SIX....)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    I get it. You're trying to say that the CSL had a close, back to back game, but without any quality in it so it was still poor, while the PL game was much better in quality but wasn't close at all, but you'd still rather watch that. However, the gap between the PSL and other T20 leagues is no where near as big as the gap between the CSL and PL. If you think otherwise you're just delusional.
    The point is not about standard of PSL or EPL or CSL - rather, it's foolish using close game to justify the standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    I don't understand why people are cursing Mustafiz here. It's not to back him, but here I read PSL's fielding as a determining factor for the "standard" of the cricket - then in Super over, a catch is converted to SIX, then Russel was brought to strike with a basic fielding error by WK!!!!

    Not sure, how to determine standard of cricket from close game, but for such high standard, 1st 4 balls, scorecard should have read like -

    1 W Dot Dot......... which would have required 2 SIX & a FOUR in last 2 balls.

    Obviously, we can talk about 90% catch success (probably 89% now, for that SIX....)
    That's one game which includes the worst team in the league, which Fizz is a part of. I still think he's a top young bowler, but he was poor with his wides, even if he can't control the fact that Russell is an extremely good power hitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    The point is not about standard of PSL or EPL or CSL - rather, it's foolish using close game to justify the standard.
    I'm pretty sure the fact that it was a close game was more so trying to justify the fact that it is not a boring and "embarrassing" league rather than the quality of cricket. Though, the quality of cricket was fine, rather the decisions from the captains themselves were poor (e.g why go for Fizz over Narine and Umar over Narine and why risk Sami who has a history of choking etc), which was my initial point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aliasad1998 View Post
    Close games doesn't mean th standard of cricket is great
    aik aur DA aya

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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    That's one game which includes the worst team in the league, which Fizz is a part of. I still think he's a top young bowler, but he was poor with his wides, even if he can't control the fact that Russell is an extremely good power hitter.
    Buzz shouldn't have given him Super over today - he was struggling from ball one. So far he has bowled Under 6 RR in other games and couple of those were quite high scoring game apart from his bowling.

    Buzz should have gone with Narine and ask him to dart as much as he required - 16 would have defended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    I'm pretty sure the fact that it was a close game was more so trying to justify the fact that it is not a boring and "embarrassing" league rather than the quality of cricket. Though, the quality of cricket was fine, rather the decisions from the captains themselves were poor (e.g why go for Fizz over Narine and Umar over Narine and why risk Sami who has a history of choking etc), which was my initial point.
    No, I can differentiate between standard and entertaining game.

    For me, the most entertaining game was the back yard game, whenever cousins gathered together - hit outside the wall, you are out ....... staff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    That's one game which includes the worst team in the league, which Fizz is a part of. I still think he's a top young bowler, but he was poor with his wides, even if he can't control the fact that Russell is an extremely good power hitter.
    And Russell loves close encounters vs LQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Buzz shouldn't have given him Super over today - he was struggling from ball one. So far he has bowled Under 6 RR in other games and couple of those were quite high scoring game apart from his bowling.

    Buzz should have gone with Narine and ask him to dart as much as he required - 16 would have defended.
    I agree totally, Baz himself has been awful as a captain and as a batsmen. No idea what he's doing. Lahore in general is making stupid decisions such as dropping Elliot, making Baz captain, benching youngsters, playing Umar and poor drafting which led to an over reliance on a middle order that doesn't exist. It's not entirely Fizz's fault for this game, but he's not shown the promise he did in Internationals before (kinda like nearly every other player on this roster).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    No, I can differentiate between standard and entertaining game.

    For me, the most entertaining game was the back yard game, whenever cousins gathered together - hit outside the wall, you are out ....... staff.
    The post was directed at @Mamoon too, not just you. Probably important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Buzz shouldn't have given him Super over today - he was struggling from ball one. So far he has bowled Under 6 RR in other games and couple of those were quite high scoring game apart from his bowling.

    Buzz should have gone with Narine and ask him to dart as much as he required - 16 would have defended.
    Ikr, Buzz chose Fizz who went for 1/39 in four overs! Over Narine who went for 0/10 in four overs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadPakFan View Post
    And Russell loves close encounters vs LQ
    Everyone loves encounters against LQ, close or not, because they win. All the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WC-Passion View Post
    I agree totally, Baz himself has been awful as a captain and as a batsmen. No idea what he's doing. Lahore in general is making stupid decisions such as dropping Elliot, making Baz captain, benching youngsters, playing Umar and poor drafting which led to an over reliance on a middle order that doesn't exist. It's not entirely Fizz's fault for this game, but he's not shown the promise he did in Internationals before (kinda like nearly every other player on this roster).
    His first 50 games or so in LO cricket, he had stats like <15 average and <4.5 economy - do you think, that standard can be maintained for long? Still, he is picked in IPL and he bowled brilliantly in recent series against SRL both in Test & ODI; was one of the bowler of 2016 WC.

    Today is just an off day for him, and Buzz exposed both himself & Mustafiz, fielding didn't help either, and he was extremely unlucky for the 5th ball going for top edged 4.

    Cricket didn't wish LQ to win today, Mustafiz is just part of it; otherwise LQ had 3 balls to steal a single and avoid Super Over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    His first 50 games or so in LO cricket, he had stats like <15 average and <4.5 economy - do you think, that standard can be maintained for long? Still, he is picked in IPL and he bowled brilliantly in recent series against SRL both in Test & ODI; was one of the bowler of 2016 WC.

    Today is just an off day for him, and Buzz exposed both himself & Mustafiz, fielding didn't help either, and he was extremely unlucky for the 5th ball going for top edged 4.

    Cricket didn't wish LQ to win today, Mustafiz is just part of it; otherwise LQ had 3 balls to steal a single and avoid Super Over.
    That's good to know that he's still playing well outside of this game, because he has a lot of potential and for a second, I thought his career was on a downwards trajectory (mainly due to the negativity and his poor performance today).

    Cricket doesn't seem to wish LQ to win at all, sad times.

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    As a complete neutral I feel so so sorry for lahore, this is a match they should have won but their self belief is lacking hence they couldn't finish it off, it's really sad and one feels for rana, he must think what could I possibly do and stop blaming baz mccullum you can clearly see he is trying and he wanted to be there till the end.

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    When you can't defend 15, that's on the bowler, not the captain.

    Fizz is supposed to be one of the best bowlers in the world, he should start bowling like it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Convict View Post
    Don't worry bro. Your other thread allows for rain. Maybe it will save you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by princeuk View Post
    As a complete neutral I feel so so sorry for lahore, this is a match they should have won but their self belief is lacking hence they couldn't finish it off, it's really sad and one feels for rana, he must think what could I possibly do and stop blaming baz mccullum you can clearly see he is trying and he wanted to be there till the end.
    You have problems when you're asking McCullum to be your anchor, he's at his best when he's playing his natural game and just slogging to get the team off to a good start.


    Quote Originally Posted by Convict View Post
    Don't worry bro. Your other thread allows for rain. Maybe it will save you?

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    @Aman popping out of nowhere to defend his NZ duds

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    @Aman popping out of nowhere to defend his NZ duds
    McCullum has obviously declined, that's why he retired. He knew it was time for him to go.


    Quote Originally Posted by Convict View Post
    Don't worry bro. Your other thread allows for rain. Maybe it will save you?

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    That was a game which simply refused to die! Resilience all the way from Islamabad. I don't think I have ever seen McCullum look so lost and disappointed as he did at the end of that game. It's not his fault they lost though, except for the decision to bowl Mustafizur instead of Narine (which was the only way Islamabad were going to get that 16 runs).

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    It's just a curse on Lahore Qalandars.

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    Amazing match..I'm loving this league..great stuff..


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