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    If i’m right in saying @Mamoon doesn’t rate Yasir Shah at all?

    How are batsmen supposed to score runs when Yasir Shah is taking wickets :

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    Misbah is a disease to IU. This PSL season should contain his last scenes related to any form of cricket.

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    How do you not ENJOY watching a fired up Yasir

    I've never seen this in the IPL. Only on those doctored test pitches from the same country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srh View Post
    but Islamabad dont have the quality of spinners as Lahore
    Lahore's weak batting mindset doesn't need good bowlers infront of them to implode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    He looks okay. So far he has only bowled in early 140s. So not as quick as we thought. Potential is there but dont think he is the second coming of Akhtar or even Malinga so far.
    Can pair with Hasan ?

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    Duminy came in with back to back 50's in T20I, but has failed twice so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManFan View Post
    Misbah is a disease to IU. This PSL season should contain his last scenes related to any form of cricket.
    He is our next batting coach


    #Mein inko rolaonga

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    dummy wiket not pith falt what r experties say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plumb View Post
    Can pair with Hasan ?
    Not international quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmkextreme_1 View Post
    I think the pitches are making him look better in LO cricket then he is.

    Must say it is a poor pitch for T20 cricket. No one wants to see this many dot balls.
    Don't mix one day format with T20 for him, as he hasn't been impressive in the one day format, but has been economical in the T20 format, he is decent in T20 format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plumb View Post
    To those watching live... Salman looks Intl material or hype... honest opinions. I don't want my hopes up !!!
    very raw but all the important ingredients r there well built height good side bowling action will only get better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    If i’m right in saying @Mamoon doesn’t rate Yasir Shah at all?

    How are batsmen supposed to score runs when Yasir Shah is taking wickets :
    He is good but quite overrated. He looks better than he actually is because he is the only wicket-taking bowler in the Test team. Our bowling attack has been poor for years now and he has stood out.

    In a quality bowling attack, he will not look as good as he looks now. He cannot control the run rate and turns into a kitten when the opposition takes him on, which is what we saw in Australia.

    I would rank him below Jadeja, Ashwin, Herath, Lyon and Maharaj in the Test format. In Limited Overs, he is completely irrelevant.

    All of the aforementioned spinners would look even better if they replace Yasir in the Pakistan team.

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    IU can win if they manage 110


    #Mein inko rolaonga

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    He is our next batting coach
    Tell me its the end of World.. Please???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    He is our next batting coach
    That contract signing will be the death of Pakistan cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Of course. Absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the players on show.
    Actually wicket is extremely poor - it's not exposed because of the size of the ground. I am not sure about the measurement, but this ground isn't longer than NZ. Old days, Sharjah boundary used to be the fence still it was one of the shortest that time, now they have pulled it inside enough to place the commentary box & other fun staffs.

    Batting isn't the best of it's quality, but certainly not as poor as the scorecard tells. Besides, that batting order .... One thing I have heard from that PAK groundsman last time is that, in his book, you take out every bit of grass, if required put salt water to kill the green grass up to root ..... it becomes batting paradise, which is a dumb idea even for his standard. This Sharjah wicket is 35 years old (under this same guy) and due to the extreme heat, the soil content becomes dust quickly with very little clay. With watering, they can make it a bit faster (looks shiny) for first few overs, but after that it gets slower & lower - with rain, today is probably a bit uneven as well and spin is gripping because of bonding the top layer. Perth weather is similar in nature and they used to put 89-91% clay over a rock bed, on that old WACA track, which became like concrete slab. This one is horrible wicket to bat, actually for cricket - even Tamim was struggling for timing after first few overs. You can't judge batsman (anyone) on this track.

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    Talat trying something different at least. Comprehensively beaten by Narine so far though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    He is good but quite overrated. He looks better than he actually is because he is the only wicket-taking bowler in the Test team. Our bowling attack has been poor for years now and he has stood out.

    In a quality bowling attack, he will not look as good as he looks now. He cannot control the run rate and turns into a kitten when the opposition takes him on, which is what we saw in Australia.

    I would rank him below Jadeja, Ashwin, Herath, Lyon and Maharaj in the Test format. In Limited Overs, he is completely irrelevant.

    All of the aforementioned spinners would look even better if they replace Yasir in the Pakistan team.
    Yasir is much better than Ashwin, Lyon and Mahraj in the Test format. Only Herath and Jadeja (occasionally) are at a higher level than him.

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    This is a great 4th day pitch.

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    Quality chucking from Narine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rathore View Post
    very raw but all the important ingredients r there well built height good side bowling action will only get better.
    Also officially only 22... could be an excellent bowler if properly coached. I like what I saw.


    #Mein inko rolaonga

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plumb View Post
    Can pair with Hasan ?
    I am doubtful really. Its just been 1 match but not sure if he can be really good. Need to see more of him before taking a final call though.

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    Narine has 4-0-10-0 to his name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    He is good but quite overrated. He looks better than he actually is because he is the only wicket-taking bowler in the Test team. Our bowling attack has been poor for years now and he has stood out.

    In a quality bowling attack, he will not look as good as he looks now. He cannot control the run rate and turns into a kitten when the opposition takes him on, which is what we saw in Australia.

    I would rank him below Jadeja, Ashwin, Herath, Lyon and Maharaj in the Test format. In Limited Overs, he is completely irrelevant.

    All of the aforementioned spinners would look even better if they replace Yasir in the Pakistan team.
    What...?
    jadeja, Ashwin, Herath, lyon n Maharaj are better than him...
    Another disgusting post... Come on @Mamoon... You are better than that..

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    The biggest mystery of Asif Ali, gets picked freely. His record is mediocre. I would even prefer Iftikhar over him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Actually wicket is extremely poor - it's not exposed because of the size of the ground. I am not sure about the measurement, but this ground isn't longer than NZ. Old days, Sharjah boundary used to be the fence still it was one of the shortest that time, now they have pulled it inside enough to place the commentary box & other fun staffs.

    Batting isn't the best of it's quality, but certainly not as poor as the scorecard tells. Besides, that batting order .... One thing I have heard from that PAK groundsman last time is that, in his book, you take out every bit of grass, if required put salt water to kill the green grass up to root ..... it becomes batting paradise, which is a dumb idea even for his standard. This Sharjah wicket is 35 years old (under this same guy) and due to the extreme heat, the soil content becomes dust quickly with very little clay. With watering, they can make it a bit faster (looks shiny) for first few overs, but after that it gets slower & lower - with rain, today is probably a bit uneven as well and spin is gripping because of bonding the top layer. Perth weather is similar in nature and they used to put 89-91% clay over a rock bed, on that old WACA track, which became like concrete slab. This one is horrible wicket to bat, actually for cricket - even Tamim was struggling for timing after first few overs. You can't judge batsman (anyone) on this track.
    The pitch is poor and the attendance is underwhelming, and the quality of batting is embarrassing. All of that combined makes the PSL a woeful product.

    I might be wrong, but I think you are being too politically correct these days. I know what you actually think of the PSL but something is holding you back. I believe that the constant criticism and ad hominem attacks has forced your hand. My advise to you is do not get influenced by the flock of sheep.

    Their is no cure for brainwashing, but one can always try.

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    Batsman that has played well in the last match gets demoted to 8 and ones that keep failing keep getting chances in top order.

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    Massive from Dre

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManFan View Post
    Yasir is much better than Ashwin, Lyon and Mahraj in the Test format. Only Herath and Jadeja (occasionally) are at a higher level than him.
    Maharaj is better, was brilliant in Aus and NZ.

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    I supported IU for selecting Pakistani youth. They have misused them beyond belief.

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    Poor pitches, Poor batsmen and good to great bowling at times is making this PSL boring.

    Why would you have a square turner for T20's? Considering how batting in PSL is already on life support, these pitches are depriving oxygen to them.

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    narine is smiling because he has been allowed to chuck

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    Looks like spin is the way to go today, ISLU have Shadab, Patel and Duminy, should be an interesting contest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    The pitch is poor and the attendance is underwhelming, and the quality of batting is embarrassing. All of that combined makes the PSL a woeful product.

    I might be wrong, but I think you are being too politically correct these days. I know what you actually think of the PSL but something is holding you back. I believe that the constant criticism and ad hominem attacks has forced your hand. My advise to you is do not get influenced by the flock of sheep.

    Their is no cure for brainwashing, but one can always try.
    Attendance has nothing to do with Pakistanis. The passion is there among the nation it's just that the tournament is not being held in their country. Crowd will be better in Playoffs, it's not something you can compare to other leagues.

    Flat pitches will be there in Pakistan too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Not sure what you're humiliated about. Pitch is difficult for batting but it's entertaining to watch for people with attention spans higher than that of an 8 year old. It's the actual cricket that's enticing. Not the players. Even though Samit Patel was the best player in England (Best LOI team in the world)'s T20 tournament. Stop having a victim mentality man. Pakistan is top cricket nation and will remain so for the coming years regardless of what happens across the border.
    Well said man. Too many wrist slitters on PP.

    Every run IU is going to be crucial on this pitch. Given LQs batting history, you never know!

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    what s poor pitch. any defind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    Maharaj is better, was brilliant in Aus and NZ.
    He was mediocore in ENG. He hasn't been tested in all conditions yet.

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    Shot from Talat

    Class

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    Wow wow wow Talat


    #Mein inko rolaonga

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    Russell is the best hitter in the world.

    Good shot by my boy Talat here too.

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    Man that shot from Hussain Talat was class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Attendance has nothing to do with Pakistanis. The passion is there among the nation it's just that the tournament is not being held in their country. Crowd will be better in Playoffs, it's not something you can compare to other leagues.

    Flat pitches will be there in Pakistan too.
    The PSL will only be slightly better in Pakistan. Crowd will be good and pitches will be better, but the pool of cricketers is likely to be worse, because quite a few half-decent players in this league would be unwilling to play in Pakistan.

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    That ball is looking like Misbah for Talat.

    Absolutely killed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManFan View Post
    He was mediocore in ENG. He hasn't been tested in all conditions yet.
    He bowled well after the first test in England.

    Sher pumped

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    The crowds don't deserve this, especially considering they are low income individuals spending their money on this. And as I say that, a monster by Hussain.

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    Why can't the people who find PSL "embarrassing" or "poor" just change the channel? Dekhna bhi hai aur baqwas bhi karni hai.... @babajee


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    With that six, I hope Misbah is sitting there thinking about the blunder he made in sending Talat down the order

    smh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    The PSL will only be slightly better in Pakistan. Crowd will be good and pitches will be better, but the pool of cricketers is likely to be worse, because quite a few half-decent players in this league would be unwilling to play in Pakistan.
    Think it's all about money and security. That's why IPL is better.

    Am still waiting with an open-mind for Indians to prove me that they have more talent than Pakistan. The likes of Thakur and Iyer aren't saying much by failing internationally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    He bowled well after the first test in England.

    Sher pumped
    Didn’t he win us both the tests in England or was I dreaming ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    He bowled well after the first test in England.

    Sher pumped

    Sher helped win win the first match carrying the bowling on his shoulders.
    Fourth match he helped skittle ENG and allow PAK to draw 2-2.
    His 19 wickets in the series go beyond the healthy average he attained. Mehraj might have a brighter future but on current form, its Yasir all the way.

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    Allah yeh Akmal genes kisi ko na deh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmkextreme_1 View Post
    With that six, I hope Misbah is sitting there thinking about the blunder he made in sending Talat down the order

    smh
    Yeah I hope he does well and proves Misbah and Dean wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadBall View Post
    The crowds don't deserve this, especially considering they are low income individuals spending their money on this. And as I say that, a monster by Hussain.
    and we ppers dont deserve this mamon guy here on match thread spewing ** and all.


    The Griffins ....

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    All the new boys that were all hyped up on PP don't seem to bat higher than 6-7.

    Goes to show how much talented they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Why can't the people who find PSL "embarrassing" or "poor" just change the channel? Dekhna bhi hai aur baqwas bhi karni hai.... @babajee
    From my personal perspective if something is bad we have to criticize it, I am paying to watch it after all. Apart from that if you go just down "the don't like it, don't watch it" road there won't be many left to watch, which beats the whole purpose of this tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManFan View Post
    Sher helped win win the first match carrying the bowling on his shoulders.
    Fourth match he helped skittle ENG and allow PAK to draw 2-2.
    His 19 wickets in the series go beyond the healthy average he attained. Mehraj might have a brighter future but on current form, its Yasir all the way.
    I’d still argue that on current form Maharaj is ahead, slightly. He’s proved himself in conditions notorious for being graves for spinners.

    His record speaks for himself, and this is considering he’s yet to play in Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    The pitch is poor and the attendance is underwhelming, and the quality of batting is embarrassing. All of that combined makes the PSL a woeful product.

    I might be wrong, but I think you are being too politically correct these days. I know what you actually think of the PSL but something is holding you back. I believe that the constant criticism and ad hominem attacks has forced your hand. My advise to you is do not get influenced by the flock of sheep.

    Their is no cure for brainwashing, but one can always try.
    What's the point of hurting people - most of these guys spend couple of hours in PP. Don't you think they do know where PSL truly stands?

    The point is, you can only enjoy what is there and think positive about it. Problem for PAK is that things don't move and next year we might again see Misbah to bat at 4 & Sami taking new ball, with Tanvir winning a Gold contract. But, there has been positives as well.

    I am actually not at all surprised - for last 7 years, I have said that UAE is the worst place for PAK cricket, that wicket is just not for flamboyant free scoring players, neither for fast bowlers or quality spinners. It's just getting worse and PCB won't shift from UAE either, because there is honey for them in UAE. The slogging that you watch in BBL - bring those "hit through the line" batsmen here, most BBL teams will struggle to play out 20 overs. May be they'll slog their way to 130, in 16/17 overs all-out. Batsman's basic instinct is to adjust according to the condition - here you see seasoned players are attempting for big hits, then they are restrained because of the ball not coming & they are not sure about middling it. Top batsmen can bat on any type of wicket - slow, fast, bouncy, turning, low ... as long as it's consistent; but this one is slow in nature, then double paced, uneven and ball is stopping & gripping - in a Test match situation, end of Day 1, score might end up like 180-3, with Azhar Ali & Pujara scoring 256 ball 50 ......

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    Wasn't Sohail Akhtar a bowling allrounder? He hasn't bowled at all during this tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deewana Mastana View Post
    All the new boys that were all hyped up on PP don't seem to bat higher than 6-7.

    Goes to show how much talented they are.
    You can credit Misbah for Talat's batting position. After a wonderful innings, he has had sporadic opportunities to bat. Unbelievable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    I’d still argue that on current form Maharaj is ahead, slightly. He’s proved himself in conditions notorious for being graves for spinners.

    His record speaks for himself, and this is considering he’s yet to play in Asia.
    Can't argue with his record outside Asia.
    Let's see what Yasir does in SA later this year.

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    Another classy shot from Talat

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadBall View Post
    From my personal perspective if something is bad we have to criticize it, I am paying to watch it after all. Apart from that if you go just down "the don't like it, don't watch it" road there won't be many left to watch, which beats the whole purpose of this tournament.
    That's where you are wrong... for every Mamoon there are millions who are liking it


    #Mein inko rolaonga

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    Agha Salman hasn't bowled either on a turning pitch.

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    What a player Talat... he is ready


    #Mein inko rolaonga

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    Great shot by Talat!

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    Tallat putting this spinner in his place.

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    Hussain Talat is really impressive.

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    What is Wilkins talking about.. there was a 6 in this very over


    #Mein inko rolaonga

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    Okay, Talat has struggled against the short ball and that too against Mustafiz, who isn't quick

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    Talat needs to bat really well for his chance of 2027 WC. And, he is not helping his course here - batting well at 8; Ul Haq is watching ..............

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    Smash this oldie trundler

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    The pitch is poor and the attendance is underwhelming, and the quality of batting is embarrassing. All of that combined makes the PSL a woeful product.

    I might be wrong, but I think you are being too politically correct these days. I know what you actually think of the PSL but something is holding you back. I believe that the constant criticism and ad hominem attacks has forced your hand. My advise to you is do not get influenced by the flock of sheep.

    Their is no cure for brainwashing, but one can always try.
    I also criticize the PSL due to its ineptness so far, (1 and 2 were better) but you just seem to be spouting negative rubbish for the sake of it. I think you are going through a very pessimistic and confusing (regarding religion too) phase of late (which is mostly aimed at getting reactions) which I also went through at the same age. Hopefully it will get better (Although I don't think so regarding any thing Pakistan).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    Hussain Talat is really impressive.
    Should’ve been on the plane to NZ, but alas, this is Inzi we are talking about.

    His bowling is also decent, bowls a good Yorker and can swing it away. Hit 137 kph in the last game.

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    Seriously man!! Well Andre is looking furious

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    Talat did the right thing

    He needs to show his talent here and opportunities are not coming

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    Should’ve been on the plane to NZ, but alas, this is Inzi we are talking about.

    His bowling is also decent, bowls a good Yorker and can swing it away. Hit 137 kph in the last game.
    Yeah I think it's time. Just very pleasing to the eye.

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    At this stage of innings u have to run there. Our batsman dnt have a clue

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    Faheem has been so unimpressive

    He falls down trying to hit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barragan View Post
    Faheem has been so unimpressive

    He falls down trying to hit
    He is gone

    Medicore

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    Terrible pitch for a Friday game.

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