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    "My target is the 2019 World Cup and I want to perform well for Pakistan in that" : Mohammad Hafeez

    Mohammad Hafeez speaking at a presser after PZ v MS:

    "Sohaib Maqsood took the score to a total beyond the par score on this pitch"

    "We planned to take it deep and then hit the bowlers at the death when the ball was wet due to dew but we couldn't keep it up in the last few overs"

    "We can't give excuses, our planning was fine because we knew that there is dew so we played four pacers but we couldn't execute the skills"

    "Wahab had a bad day, what he wanted to do wasn't happening. The bowlers gave their full effort"

    "I think we have a lot of momentum, the matches we're losing are close games so the finish isn't that good perhaps. As a team we're confident and we're giving our 100%, we have some problems with injuries but everyone is contributing"

    "We are trying to take the pressure off Hasan as he is returning from injury and is not completely in rhythm"

    "The players in the team are here because they have proved themselves and they are good players, I hope everyone will take the responsibility to execute their roles"

    "Sammy is recovering well and is working hard with the physio. Hasan is a confident player and wants to play but we don't want to put too much load on him, however much more he plays, the better he will get"

    "The PZ management approached the PCB's PSL committee and asked them if I can be allowed to bowl in PSL. The bowling review committee was contacted and they were very happy with all the hard work I've put in and my tests in Pakistan were also improved but the PSL Technical Committee didn't give me permission to bowl. I was expecting to bowl in PSL and get more confidence but we had to accept that decision. I have informed the PCB that I am available for a bowling test to clear my action and I think they have discussed it with the ICC and we are waiting for the arrangements so I can give the bowling test"

    "Until a player is fulfilling what's required of him and is performing and is fit and is justifying his place, it doesn't matter if he is senior or junior. Team's selection is done on performance and fitness. As a senior player, I will be available for Pakistan as long as I am performing and am fit. My target is the 2019 World Cup and I want to perform well for Pakistan in that and then I will see how it goes after that"


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    He's ready to clear his bowling action


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    You have got to be kidding me!!!! seriously hafeez? and that was the reason you made the fifty? Dude just walkaway for the sake of Pak cricket, enough torture.

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    Only 2019. Should target the 2031 World Cup also.



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    He’s our best batsman what are you guys saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    He’s our best batsman what are you guys saying
    When he is bowling he is an asset for Pakistan

    Hafeez, imad and shadab would be formidable togheter in middle overs

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    Sorry Pakistanis you just lost the World Cup

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    As much as I want to be positive and calm about it. Deep down I know he got connections and he 'll be there in the squad.

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    As a senior player, I will be available for Pakistan as long as I am performing and am fit. My target is the 2019 World Cup and I want to perform well for Pakistan in that and then I will see how it goes after that
    2019 is just the first target guys. T2 and T3 will be revealed after that. Be patient.

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    No use of him even if he can bowl.

    Can't really open anymore, doesn't have the reflexes, so hard to play him as a batsman. Mickey's right, difficult to know where to place him. Can't play opener. Faces competition from Babar and Haris and the top of the order who are just better and younger, better reflexes.

    I'd prefer Malik over Hafeez, because at least the former can hit against spin a bit better and rotate strike better. But tbh Malik's time might be up too.

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    Mashallah, nazar-e-bad dur.

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    Not if Mickey has something to say about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Not if Mickey has something to say about it
    Mickey said he needs to be bowling.

    Hafeez "I have informed the PCB that I am available for a bowling test"



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    He's an improved cricketer. He played a few good innings in the odi series v NZ in NZ, and showed more potential than others around him. His performance in the CT Final, fair performance in NZ and some performances in the PSL, I think we'll need him in the WC especially as it's in England again.

    I think he should come mid to late order that's perfect for him and just what we need. If he can sort out his action and bowl too, then he becomes even more valuable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    Mickey said he needs to be bowling.

    Hafeez "I have informed the PCB that I am available for a bowling test"

    In the Hafeez yay or nay debate I'm 51% in the yay camp because his bowling adds a different dimension to our bowling attack. His miserly overs allow people like Hasan and Shadab to bowl with freedom in the middle overs and pick up wickets which makes us such a potent attack. We saw in NZ the opening bowlers weren't striking and Hasan and Shadab were having to be defensive to curtail the runs.


    That being said Hafeez's batting is a liability in the side specially when he is in Tuk tuk mode plus he drops a catch nearly every match these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    In the Hafeez yay or nay debate I'm 51% in the yay camp because his bowling adds a different dimension to our bowling attack. His miserly overs allow people like Hasan and Shadab to bowl with freedom in the middle overs and pick up wickets which makes us such a potent attack. We saw in NZ the opening bowlers weren't striking and Hasan and Shadab were having to be defensive to curtail the runs.


    That being said Hafeez's batting is a liability in the side specially when he is in Tuk tuk mode plus he drops a catch nearly every match these days.
    Keeping in mind hafeez's (14 year track record) legendary lack of spine when the going gets tough, there are only three questions to ask:
    1 - Can he play ahead of a batsman, if you think of him as a batsman?
    2 - Can he play ahead of a bowler if you see him as a bowler only?
    3 - Can he play ahead of an all-rounder?

    I dont want rehash his sham of a career built on filling his boots in friendly conditions against pie chucking teams, so I take for granted that nearly every serious cricket follower knows that.
    The answer to all three questions is no, btw.

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    Some of these veterans have no shame and this is thanks to the desi seniority culture (but it's even worse in Pakistan). The arrogance and ego of this guy is disgusting. One good cameo in the CT final and he thinks he's entitled to play for as long as he wants. It is beyond alarming that he would consider playing beyond the 2019 WC.

    Mickey Arthur better drop him and even if he can bowl should never be allowed back in because he deliberately chucks when he feels he can get away with it. A disgraceful, shameless cheat of a cricketer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    In the Hafeez yay or nay debate I'm 51% in the yay camp because his bowling adds a different dimension to our bowling attack. His miserly overs allow people like Hasan and Shadab to bowl with freedom in the middle overs and pick up wickets which makes us such a potent attack. We saw in NZ the opening bowlers weren't striking and Hasan and Shadab were having to be defensive to curtail the runs.


    That being said Hafeez's batting is a liability in the side specially when he is in Tuk tuk mode plus he drops a catch nearly every match these days.
    And to think ppl criticize his CT performance, this is the bigger picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    In the Hafeez yay or nay debate I'm 51% in the yay camp because his bowling adds a different dimension to our bowling attack. His miserly overs allow people like Hasan and Shadab to bowl with freedom in the middle overs and pick up wickets which makes us such a potent attack. We saw in NZ the opening bowlers weren't striking and Hasan and Shadab were having to be defensive to curtail the runs.


    That being said Hafeez's batting is a liability in the side especially when he is in Tuk tuk mode plus he drops a catch nearly every match these days.
    no it doesn't, post his first bowling ban his bowling gets no wickets. His economy is still decent but that doesn't make up for his shocking batting and awful fielding. If he played at 6 maybe he would tolerable, but his ego is too much and even then id rather Talat.

    Professor has no business playing international cricket. He is the last of the senior bridge that needs to be forcibly booted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanigoneaussie View Post
    no it doesn't, post his first bowling ban his bowling gets no wickets. His economy is still decent but that doesn't make up for his shocking batting and awful fielding. If he played at 6 maybe he would tolerable, but his ego is too much and even then id rather Talat.

    Professor has no business playing international cricket. He is the last of the senior bridge that needs to be forcibly booted.
    Its a team game and he contributes, stats dont always show the whole picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SensiblePakFan View Post
    Its a team game and he contributes, stats dont always show the whole picture.
    That’s such a weak excuse, used when you know the facts don’t match up

    Professor hurts the team more then he helps


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    In the Hafeez yay or nay debate I'm 51% in the yay camp because his bowling adds a different dimension to our bowling attack. His miserly overs allow people like Hasan and Shadab to bowl with freedom in the middle overs and pick up wickets which makes us such a potent attack. We saw in NZ the opening bowlers weren't striking and Hasan and Shadab were having to be defensive to curtail the runs.


    That being said Hafeez's batting is a liability in the side specially when he is in Tuk tuk mode plus he drops a catch nearly every match these days.
    So why don't you consider playing Haris Sohail at no. 4/5 as our flagship middle order batsman who can also bowl a few overs of spin.

    Whilst his bowling may not be as good as Hafeez's "bowling" - it will be a clear upgrade over everything else and I am sure over the course of a few seasons, he will become a much better bowler too.

    Haris and Babar need to be our mainstay middle order batsman moving forward.

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    He'll pass the bowling test for sure, because he chucks deliberately. Even without any assistance, tomorrow he can pass any 2D/3D testing with his round arm action, as it's perfectly clean, probably as clean as Lyon or Herath, Shakib with other arm. He bowled with that action in CT, and that's actually his true level with a clean action.

    Regarding batting, it's really difficult to say because looks like Ul Haq uses PSL as the only scouting tool and apart from Talat, hardly any youngster could excite with bat; but Talat is not contesting for top 4 spot. Maqsood had a great day today, but Ul Haq can easily brash that a side as an one of fluke unless Maqs repeats such regularly (which'll be difficult - such innings doesn't happen every week). I was reading his post today - he missed fitness test for 0.3 marks in a scale of 20, as a specialist bat reaching 17.0, against a target of 17.3 - though not sure how many in NZ did pass their target. This probably indicates, Maqs isn't in the "trusted group" of Chief Selector & Captain/Coach.

    To be honest, unless people in charge consider factors like age (& expected decline with it) after 15 months, condition in early summer UK, own team combination, opponents attack, batting position (holes to fill) .... on scorecard, it difficult to drop MoHa. Guy is street smart and knows how to keep nose afloat with manipulative numbers. At the end of PSL, truth will remain that in a low scoring tournament he scored 58 at almost 150 SR while chasing ... there won't be any footnote about the target & context of that particular game.

    Last time PCB took him to a WC in AUS as specialist bat, with a tail-enderisque stats - 4 years down the line, even without bowling Ul Haq can say that he is 4 years more experience. I think, 2019 is a forgone conclusion (unless fitness like last time) - he should target 2023 WC in IND, and he indeed has a realistic chance; even as Captain. Misbah was officially 41 in 2015 WC, MoHa will be 42, not much in it actually.

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    he was the reason zalmi lost today, how on earth is he aiming for 2019 wc?

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    How can you expect to chase down 75 or so in the last 5 overs with such a thin batting line up, and that too on this slow wicket? It was a poorly planned chase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post

    "We planned to take it deep and then hit the bowlers at the death
    The root cause of many failures in our chases at International level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    The root cause of many failures in our chases at International level.
    Exactly this is why he bats slow... Mickey already said that he cant buy the logic of scoring quickly... This approach of leaving it for the last 10 overs has gone and it was applicable only for 250ish totals

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    Given the number of times he has been caught chucking and suspended I think a permanent ban should be imposed on his bowling. Whenever his place in the team comes under threat his bowling magically(via chucking) becomes more effective and then he gets reported and banned. This is basically cheating the system. All hell will break loose on this forum and many others if an Indian were to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahdi View Post
    Given the number of times he has been caught chucking and suspended I think a permanent ban should be imposed on his bowling. Whenever his place in the team comes under threat his bowling magically(via chucking) becomes more effective and then he gets reported and banned. This is basically cheating the system. All hell will break loose on this forum and many others if an Indian were to do it.
    well said

    Even Ajmal rightfully got it from fans here when he did the same, yet the professor is largely exempt from such criticism.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahdi View Post
    Given the number of times he has been caught chucking and suspended I think a permanent ban should be imposed on his bowling. Whenever his place in the team comes under threat his bowling magically(via chucking) becomes more effective and then he gets reported and banned. This is basically cheating the system. All hell will break loose on this forum and many others if an Indian were to do it.
    I agree a permanent ban should be imposed. Even as a usable part timer he had use, got greedy trying to be the same force as before via testing his chucking limits.

    It's his own fault really this whole bowling mess. Didn't take the time to do it properly, work on a remodelled action to succeed in international cricket. Chucked blatantly in domestic/ domestic leagues. He tried to pass the bowling test as quick after he got banned using a completely different action. And then tried to test his limits by making it closer to his old action (and seeing how much he could get away with). He wasn't that much over in terms of chucking and a little more sense and patience he could have become a workable useful part timer even if he wasn't the bowler he was before. I have a bit more sympathy with ajmal actually, ajmal had to rework his entire action so much he wasn't really viable anymore as he was so over the limit, and of course didn't have batting to fall back on.

    If he got dropped because he wasn't holding his place, he got dropped. Would have given him time to work on his flaws, and correct his bowling, work in domestic and earn a comeback.

    Basic line, I don't believe Hafeez shouldn't have been using any modification to his action that cleared the bowling test. If he wanted to use any of his modified actions, should have used it at the bowling test and see if he could get away with it. But of course Hafeez didn't want to risk getting banned as a result.

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    He should only play if he gets his bowling back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SensiblePakFan View Post
    He should only play if he gets his bowling back.
    Even then he shouldnt be back.. he is nothing bowler when he cant chuck (eg: CT2017)

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    Inzamam's talk about revamp of ODI squad is just for show. Same players will retain for next series. PSL is good to cover up previous failures

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    Sharam toh aati nahi

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    Just becuase misbah played till his 40s doesn’t mean every half decent senior should do the same.

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    Yesterdays innings summed up his career. On a flat track with dew around he managed a 50 of 40 balls. He will evem go on to claim that actually was a good innings.

    Just take a look at his face once he gets to 50 with the rrr climbing he had that standard scared timid look on his face. Its a T20 tamasha leauge but he cant handle even 1% of pressure.

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    A disgusting cricketer who has the best brains out of anybody else in Pakistan cricket.
    Shame those more talented cannot think like him.

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    Target should be to retire ASAP and make way for new talent.

    He does not have a place in the team as a pure batsman.

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    To be kinda honest, Hafeez could merit a place in the team if he opens with Fakhar. We still have an opener problem, and Sahibzada Farhan so far has failed in the PSL, so it's unclear what will come of him. It's not the best solution, but much better than Azhar or Shehzad. Also, he needs to work on restoring his bowling and bowl again in addition to opening, then he can stay.

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    ya Allah khair

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    No thanks. You have been caught chucking thrice.

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    This chucker would not be given any attention in any other system. Once he clears, he will chuck again. He's embarrassed us enough.


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    We need to get rid of this cheater. Such a shameless person.

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    I would not be surprised if these franchises are deliberately not promoting young batsmen on top or in playing eleven in order to keep these so called seniors for national squad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shafi View Post
    I would not be surprised if these franchises are deliberately not promoting young batsmen on top or in playing eleven in order to keep these so called seniors for national squad
    Or some franchises deliberately do not play certain emerging players to prevent them from criticism and keep them in the team longer.

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    Oh God please no. Really want Hafeez and Malik to call in quits. Please for the love of Pakistan Cricket future.

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    He's looking to play till the 2023 WC. Why doesn't he just be honest?

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    A curse for Pakistan cricket.

    I imagine Hussain Talat will take his spot in the XI, for now; but if he doesn’t get going then we will be right back at square one.
    Last edited by Abdullah719; 7th March 2018 at 19:09.

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    what about before WC? Don't he want to perform in that..
    Well, he has great connections, and Inzi work for him.

    I feel terribly sorry for Mickey Arthur. Their work gets undone by PCB and our seniors and talents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iniqbal223 View Post
    what about before WC? Don't he want to perform in that..
    Well, he has great connections, and Inzi work for him.

    I feel terribly sorry for Mickey Arthur. Their work gets undone by PCB and our seniors and talents.
    Wasn't he your best batsman in the NZ ODI series?

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    Quote Originally Posted by giri26 View Post
    Wasn't he your best batsman in the NZ ODI series?
    By numbers - yes. I explained that.

    1st ODI: NZ puts a par score (or say little above par) 315; PAK chases - MoHa comes at 4: 1 (9)

    2nd Game: PAK bats first and puts a score of 246/9, based on tail whagging by Hasan & Shadab - MoHa bats at 4: 60 (71). Kiwis win DWL target for 2 wickets cost - you can imagine the par here.

    3rd Game: Series saver - Kiwis put about a par score of 257; PAK chases for 74; MoHa comes at 4, when scorecard reads 2/2 for 0 (4). Foot note, last night another "Senior" No. 4 came exactly at 2/2 chasing a little more than 257 - and we watched what seniors with experience benefits the team.

    Game 4: Dead rubber. PAK bats first for 262/8 - won't say about par, but Kiwis chased with 5 overs & 5 wickets at hand. MoHa comes at 5 & 97/3 (23'1); gets run out on last ball for 81 (80), after batting full 26'5 overs. Footnote: first 30 in 15 overs, first 50 in 67 balls.

    Game 5: NZ 271/9 - first time a below per score by them. PAK ends 256 (49). MoHa at 5: 6 (20) .... and PAK short by 15 with 6 balls at hand.

    So, by stats, it's indeed 148 runs at 29.60/80.43 stats; could have been 37/80.43 without that last ball run-out..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    By numbers - yes. I explained that.

    1st ODI: NZ puts a par score (or say little above par) 315; PAK chases - MoHa comes at 4: 1 (9)

    2nd Game: PAK bats first and puts a score of 246/9, based on tail whagging by Hasan & Shadab - MoHa bats at 4: 60 (71). Kiwis win DWL target for 2 wickets cost - you can imagine the par here.

    3rd Game: Series saver - Kiwis put about a par score of 257; PAK chases for 74; MoHa comes at 4, when scorecard reads 2/2 for 0 (4). Foot note, last night another "Senior" No. 4 came exactly at 2/2 chasing a little more than 257 - and we watched what seniors with experience benefits the team.

    Game 4: Dead rubber. PAK bats first for 262/8 - won't say about par, but Kiwis chased with 5 overs & 5 wickets at hand. MoHa comes at 5 & 97/3 (23'1); gets run out on last ball for 81 (80), after batting full 26'5 overs. Footnote: first 30 in 15 overs, first 50 in 67 balls.

    Game 5: NZ 271/9 - first time a below per score by them. PAK ends 256 (49). MoHa at 5: 6 (20) .... and PAK short by 15 with 6 balls at hand.

    So, by stats, it's indeed 148 runs at 29.60/80.43 stats; could have been 37/80.43 without that last ball run-out..........
    I agree but again, the rest of the Pakistan batsman did not set the stage on fire. Except for the lower order, Sarfaraz scored in one or two games but it was mostly Hasan Ali and Shadab who were bailing Pakistan out. Harris Sohail had couple of good innings as well. He did okay if you compare the overall standard of Pakistan batting in that series. I am not saying he should continue playing but again the others aren't doing great either.

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    Hafeez is past it - needs to retire now.

    Should have retired after the 2017 CT win but is now just delaying it.

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    No thank you Mr. Professor, we don't need you anymore. We have better options than you and want to move on.

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    Mohammad Hafeez will be a happy man with Narine being named for suspected action.


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