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    England [229/3] beat New Zealand [223] by seven wickets to win the 5-match ODI series 3-2

    Taylor ruled out of fifth ODI

    Ross Taylor has been ruled out of the fifth ODI between the BLACKCAPS and England in Christchurch today.

    Taylor, who has been battling a quadricep injury from the previous match, was only able to run at 70 percent without discomfort while taking a fitness examination this morning.

    After discussion between Taylor and medical staff, a joint decision was made that he would not be able to play in the deciding match and would be at high risk of significantly aggravating the injury ahead of the upcoming Test series.

    The BLACKCAPS XI will be named at the toss.


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    Have to stay awake tonight to confirm a deal with some Chinese suppliers. I think I might just as well watch this.

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    Taylor ruled out.

    Won us all our matches this series... we've struggled when one of Kane or Taylor have had to sit out, they usually cover for the shortcomings of the middle order.
    Last edited by Aman; 9th March 2018 at 20:37.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    Taylor ruled out.

    Won us all our matches this series...
    Poor guy was almost falling to pieces in the last match. Big blow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadBall View Post
    Poor guy was almost falling to pieces in the last match. Big blow.
    We're not like England in that they have bit and part players.

    Our batting relies on Guptill, Taylor and Kane to score runs, while the others provide the finishing touches (bit/part players). Guptill is out of form and Kane is inconsistent. Taylor was our main run scorer.

    Root is their main man, but they're more reliant on their finishing touch players than they are on Root, the sum of whom (finishers) make them so difficult to beat.
    Last edited by Aman; 9th March 2018 at 20:41.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    We're not like England in that they have bit and part players.

    Our batting relies on Guptill, Taylor and Kane to score runs, while the others provide the finishing touches (bit/part players). Guptill is out of form and Kane is inconsistent. Taylor was our main run scorer.

    Root is their main man, but they're more reliant on their finishing touch players than they are on Root, the sum of whom (finishers) make them so difficult to beat.
    I know. You are like India except Williamson and not Kohli comes at 3. Hopefully Guptill and Munro fire, Williamson aided by Chapman playing the long innings with a cameo hopefully from De Grandhomme/Santner towards the end. Southee can whack them too.

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    England chasing and no Taylor


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    Munro fails again...

    We really need to bring Ryder back into the team.


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    These two are going to have to get us to 200..


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    Colin Munro's scores this series..

    6, 1, 49, 0 and 0


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    Munro fails again...

    We really need to bring Ryder back into the team.
    Bring Back Rob Nicol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hafeezrocks View Post
    Bring Back Rob Nicol.
    Really?..

    Ryder is good enough to get into the team, he's being kept out for other reasons.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    Really?..
    I remember he was an opener who got a couple of decent ODI tons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hafeezrocks View Post
    I remember he was an opener who got a couple of decent ODI tons.
    Against minnows IIRC.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    Munro fails again...

    We really need to bring Ryder back into the team.
    Or even Ronchi. He's in form atm. Although I think both him and Munro are T20 specialists.

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    I feel we will see a Guptill special today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    Against minnows IIRC.
    Do all the kids in NZ grow up playing Cricket having minor to serious interest in the Sport? I see that for a small population, NZ still keep on producing endless Cricketers on a regular basis with so many different players getting chances every year or so.

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    NZ needs to play to its strengths and rotate thestrike. This tuk tuk isn't going to help their ultimate cause.

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    Why Taylor isn't playing? Not much batting to come after this pair apart from some big hitters, let's hope Guptill gets a big one after he gets his eye in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hafeezrocks View Post
    Do all the kids in NZ grow up playing Cricket having minor to serious interest in the Sport? I see that for a small population, NZ still keep on producing endless Cricketers on a regular basis with so many different players getting chances every year or so.
    It's NZ's summer sport, but most play rugby or league. When I was at school, it was mostly desis who signed up for cricket and a few european kiwis.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafa View Post
    Why Taylor isn't playing? Not much batting to come after this pair apart from some big hitters, let's hope Guptill gets a big one after he gets his eye in.
    Injured from last game.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadBall View Post
    NZ needs to play to its strengths and rotate thestrike. This tuk tuk isn't going to help their ultimate cause.
    They know their isn't much else after this and are being too careful.

    If one them goes it becomes a lot harder to get a big score, they're counting on getting in and then cashing in later on.


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    Williamson chops on after trying to play it to thirdman.

    He gets out like this so often, never learns.

    That's the difference between him and the best, his shot selection is average.


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    Game over, almost. NZ doing a Pakistan from when they were there. Karma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    Williamson chops on after trying to play it to thirdman.

    He gets out like this so often, never learns.

    That's the difference between him and the best, his shot selection is average.
    He's like your Babar Azam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadBall View Post
    Game over, almost. NZ doing a Pakistan from when they were there. Karma.
    This has become the norm with this team, we take it to a decider before either choking or not showing up.

    It doesn't even hurt anymore, I expect it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    This has become the norm with this team, we take it to a decider before either choking or not showing up.

    It doesn't even hurt anymore, I expect it.
    Welcome to our world. We at least had the T10 tournament to heal the wounds.

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    slow start from NZ but the sun is out and the track looks good.

    Guptill is the key here, Kiwis need 280+ to make a game of it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadBall View Post
    Welcome to our world. We at least had the T10 tournament to heal the wounds.
    You've won a CT, this team has won nothing.


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    Kiwis need a solid partnership here

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    56 . 2

    16 overs

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    Kiwi ship sinking fast here.

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    Kiwi ship sinking fast here.

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    Ali getting good turn here.

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    I was hoping for a thriller in the decider but looks a one horse race so far.

    While Guptill is there, NZ are still in this .


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    Barring a Guptill Special, we're not going to get a semi decent score.

    Still think there's something there in Chapman, shouldn't discard him after a couple of failures.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    I was hoping for a thriller in the decider but looks a one horse race so far.

    While Guptill is there, NZ are still in this .
    You obviously haven't seen this team play a decider or Final before.

    The series was over the moment England went up 2-1. NZ missed their chance to win this series with that botched chase.


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    70.4

    20 overs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    You obviously haven't seen this team play a decider or Final before.

    The series was over the moment England went up 2-1. NZ missed their chance to win this series with that botched chase.
    Not that I can recall but today was a good opportunity against a very strong English side. Nz have won 9 out the last 10 series but have blew it here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    Not that I can recall but today was a good opportunity against a very strong English side. Nz have won 9 out the last 10 series but have blew it here.
    NZ have lost 5 consecutive series deciders and a T20 Final in the last 18 months. This side cannot handle the slightest bit of pressure, not surprising considering how badly we fared in the CT.


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    Its all gone Pete Tong. Still can't believe we were humiliated by this side.

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    NZ as a batting side are fragile, Nasser figured that out after one series.

    This has been known for a while..


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    Taylors resistance puts everything in context. Without Taylor it could very well have been 3-1 or 4-1.

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    This is pathetic, the batsmen haven't turned up today.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    NZ have lost 5 consecutive series deciders and a T20 Final in the last 18 months. This side cannot handle the slightest bit of pressure, not surprising considering how badly we fared in the CT.
    I personally think Munro being a walking wicket would hurt them sooner or later.

    But perhaps you're right, the pressure of a decider got to them.

    Another one goes. Lucky to get to 150 now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    I personally think Munro being a walking wicket would hurt them sooner or later.

    But perhaps you're right, the pressure of a decider got to them.

    Another one goes. Lucky to get to 150 now.
    Nearly every wicket today has been given to England today.

    This is a good batting wicket.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    Nearly every wicket today has been given to England today.

    This is a good batting wicket.
    Yes. In recent years.

    New Zealand 341/7
    New Zealand 331/6
    New Zealand 325/6

    Santner is in good form atm, so you never know NZ could still reach 220 but the game is surely lost.


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    NZ exposed, a decent sized ground and they fail. Really wanted them to put the ENG posers in their place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    Yes. In recent years.

    New Zealand 341/7
    New Zealand 331/6
    New Zealand 325/6

    Santner is in good form atm, so you never know NZ could still reach 220 but the game is surely lost.
    If they're crumbling in a JAMODI series deciders, I don't know what they're going to do in the WC.

    No point even going if they're going to play like this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadBall View Post
    NZ exposed, a decent sized ground and they fail. Really wanted them to put the ENG posers in their place.
    We've won our last 8 here and scored 300+ often.


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    102 / 6

    30 overs

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    Need a new second opener and middle order.

    Munro, CdG and Nicols out

    Hopefully they have balls and can handle pressure.

    Done with the mental midgets.
    Last edited by Aman; 9th March 2018 at 23:03.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    If they're crumbling in a JAMODI series deciders, I don't know what they're going to do in the WC.

    No point even going if they're going to play like this.
    Kiwis have always punched above there heads. They do much better in World Tournaments , but they lack killer instinct towards the end, maybe because lack of impact players . generally they always have had useful players. Semis , many expect Kiwis to get , but beyond which even best of fans would not bet for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justcrazy View Post
    Kiwis have always punched above there heads. They do much better in World Tournaments , but they lack killer instinct towards the end, maybe because lack of impact players . generally they always have had useful players. Semis , many expect Kiwis to get , but beyond which even best of fans would not bet for.
    We use to.

    This team does not, they crumbled in the CT and our batting was left to Kane to carry.


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    To get into the IPL, you need to perform... these players don't perform well or consistently enough so they can't get into it.


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    Kiwis need to make sure they bat out 50 overs here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    We use to.

    This team does not, they crumbled in the CT and our batting was left to Kane to carry.
    You never know , couple of good performance individually Kiwis can reach knockout. By the way what happened to all rounders , Corry Anderson and Neesham ?

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    Kiwi womens team having an early lunch. They know it's around the corner now lol

    MS is a very good cricketer but can he calm his attacking instincts herel


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    We've won our last 8 here and scored 300+ often.
    Any under 16s sides can score 300 on these baby boundaries, the first somewhat normal sized boundary and you fail. Sorry but you guys are HTBs.

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    @Aman

    Munro , Guptil , williamson , Latham , Taylor are fixed

    In Bowling Boult , Southee , Santher are fixed

    Grandhome makes it 8 fixed players . Kiwis need to finalize 3 more players.

    Ideally couple of batting all rounder and a bowler will make it a good team.

    or

    One solid batting , one bowler and one batting all rounder

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    Lovely , right out of the screws by Satner.

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    Santher is again batting well here

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    Guptill, Taylor, Kane, Santner, Boult and Southee are a lock.

    Every other spot should be up for grabs.

    Should honestly be considering Ronchi and Ryder with the options we have ATM.
    Last edited by Aman; 9th March 2018 at 23:17.


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    133 . 6

    14 overs left

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    Guptill, Taylor, Kane, Santner, Boult and Southee are a lock.

    Every other spot should be up for grabs.

    Should honestly be considering Ronchi and Ryder with the options we have ATM.
    I do not think they will change openers .

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    I'd try

    Guptill
    Ronchi
    Kane
    Taylor
    Ryder
    Chapman
    Anderson
    Ish
    Santner
    Southee
    Boult


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    Guptill, Taylor, Kane, Santner, Boult and Southee are a lock.

    Every other spot should be up for grabs.

    Should honestly be considering Ronchi and Ryder with the options we have ATM.
    Isn't Ronchi Kolpak?

    Good partnership, need this to continue until the 45th.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    Isn't Ronchi Kolpak?

    Good partnership, need this to continue until the 45th.
    Think you're thinking of Elliott.

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    146 / 6

    12 overs to go.

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    Shot, Nichols.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justcrazy View Post
    I do not think they will change openers .
    Munro is poor in ODIs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    I'd try

    Guptill
    Ronchi
    Kane
    Taylor
    Ryder
    Chapman
    Anderson
    Ish
    Santner
    Southee
    Boult
    I would also play both Sodhi and Santher . Specially when Santher can be a good dependable at number 7 . Going in with another specialist spinner can be a attacking move in middle overs.

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    So not only are we losing another decider, Nicols is scoring soft runs to keep in the side...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Justcrazy View Post
    I would also play both Sodhi and Santher . Specially when Santher can be a good dependable at number 7 . Going in with another specialist spinner can be a attacking move in middle overs.
    Ish is a genuine wicket taker along with Boult.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HitWicket View Post
    Think you're thinking of Elliott.
    Ronchi retires from international cricket
    http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/...tional-cricket

    Unless he's had a change of heart but I think he's also Kolpak. Shame as NZ could have done with him and hes better than Latham with the gloves too.


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    Kiwis have another 60 odd balls left , they can add another 60 runs easily here .

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    This is even worse than watching Pak bat, sorry but goodbye.

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    160 . 6

    60 balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justcrazy View Post
    Kiwis have another 60 odd balls left , they can add another 60 runs easily here .
    I think they can add 80 if these two continue for another 5-6 overs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/...tional-cricket

    Unless he's had a change of heart but I think he's also Kolpak. Shame as NZ could have done with him and hes better than Latham with the gloves too.
    Na, Ronchis just an overseas player. New Zealanders don't qualify for kolpak status by default. Elliott does because of him being originally from South Africa and Andre Adams before him did because of his West Indian heritage I believe.
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