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    Fakhar Zaman and Haris Sohail - The solution to Pakistan's opening woes in LOIs?

    In my opinion this combination would solve the LOI openers issue for the next 3-4 years.

    What do you guys think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    In my opinion this combination would solve the LOI openers issue for the next 3-4 years.

    What do you guys think?
    Only if Haris can add some pressure releasing strokes this can be worth experimenting as with fielders in the circle for the first 10 overs and bowlers bowling good lines it can get difficult to up the tempo. While Haris is probably our best strike rotator he shot making is limited for LOIs as an opener, if he can work on the he can surely become a good modern day opener. He should take example of Bairstow, he was pretty disciplined orthodox batsman and now turning into a beast in ODI's by adding few aggressive shots in his weaponry.
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    No. Agha, Sohaib or someone else that can strike it. Shehzad and Umar Akmal are still exceptional talents but the latter has too many disciplinary issues. Shehzad should be given an extended run and not chopped and changed so much. He is the type of guy who requires confidence from others, its a personality trait and team management should understand that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barah_admi View Post
    No. Agha, Sohaib or someone else that can strike it. Shehzad and Umar Akmal are still exceptional talents but the latter has too many disciplinary issues. Shehzad should be given an extended run and not chopped and changed so much. He is the type of guy who requires confidence from others, its a personality trait and team management should understand that.
    He is struggling big time in PSL and dont remember any match winning innings of his in ODI in the last few years. In the modern limited overs cricket, every player in the playing 11 should be able to win his team a match on his day, Shehzad even struggles on his day. He played well in the last T20 against world xi though.

    He should go and play domestic and improve his temperament and strike rotation.

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    I think it can be a great solution to our opening woes. Allows Sarfraz to come in up the order and have a slot available for a new batsman like Talat instead of the usual rubbish Hafeez/Malik.

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    what fakhar and sharjeel can do none other pakistani openers (current) can do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    He is struggling big time in PSL and dont remember any match winning innings of his in ODI in the last few years. In the modern limited overs cricket, every player in the playing 11 should be able to win his team a match on his day, Shehzad even struggles on his day. He played well in the last T20 against world xi though.

    He should go and play domestic and improve his temperament and strike rotation.
    He has played well and still been dropped. The top teams with the best systems, imo, Eng and Aus, identify players 4 or 5 years in advance and then let them build, even through failures. Shehzad gets a score, then doesnt get a good score and gets dropped. Once someone said, Pakistani players are always playing for their position. That just isn't fair as it creates immense mental strain.

    I certainly agree he should play in domestic and with how little international cricket Pakistan have, he has plenty of time for that. But he should also be given a 10-15 match stretch, as should many others. I mean Imam UL Haq is being treated like dirt too as is a senior player like Ali. Either drop them and move on or play them, stop having them carry drinks in the squad for no reason. It's a real cultural problem in asian circles and needs to be stamped out.

    I do however feel, with the PSL , some players have staked more of a claim to the limited overs side, namely Agha, Sohaib and a couple others. IN fact, Haris has been worse than Shehzad lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by barah_admi View Post
    No. Agha, Sohaib or someone else that can strike it. Shehzad and Umar Akmal are still exceptional talents but the latter has too many disciplinary issues. Shehzad should be given an extended run and not chopped and changed so much. He is the type of guy who requires confidence from others, its a personality trait and team management should understand that.
    Ahmed Shehzad is trash... he’s been given plenty of “confidence” by Multan and has ended up with a legendary strike rate of 85 in T20
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    I would give Saif Badar and Hussain Talat a chance in next series.

    Salman Agha is not a bad player need good coaching team to make him better.

    Fakhar and Rizwan could be v good try out as openers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Only if Haris can add some pressure releasing strokes this can be worth experimenting as with fielders in the circle for the first 10 overs and bowlers bowling good lines it can get difficult to up the tempo. While Haris is probably our best strike rotator he shot making is limited for LOIs as an opener, if he can work on the he can surely become a good modern day opener. He should take example of Bairstow, he was pretty disciplined orthodox batsman and now turning into a beast in ODI's by adding few aggressive shots in his weaponry.
    Haris is great at finding the boundary against the pacers... itís against the spinners where he gets tied down.

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    Fakhar and babaar would be ideal in this situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justcrazy View Post
    Fakhar and babaar would be ideal in this situation.
    Haris is better than Babar against the new ball.

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    Harris Sohail does not have fitness to play any international game, his time had come and gone, sadly due to fitness issues.

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    I think ICC should pass a new rule in which we could try Talat/Agha/Haris/Akhtar etc in the opening slot without their wickets being counted until we find The One.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadBall View Post
    I think ICC should pass a new rule in which we could try Talat/Agha/Haris/Akhtar etc in the opening slot without their wickets being counted until we find The One.
    Haris is ďThe OneĒ for now. I am certain.

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    Has to open I think. We have few other options except Babar moving up from 3 (then who plays at three), but think we're deadset on not moving him. Plus Haris plays the new ball better. I do think Haris lacks the fitness and ability to rotate strike to an extent to, especially against the spinners where it seems he gets tied down more. So higher the better.

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    Haris sahab is made of glass.... he probably gets injured getting out of bed in the morning


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Haris sahab is made of glass.... he probably gets injured getting out of bed in the morning
    Or being spooked by ghosts in foreign hotels

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...st-new-zealand

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    I think Haris has done well in the middle order for Pakistan and there is no need to push him to open. Pakistan need to find another good opener to partner Fakhar, rather than trying to manufacture one.

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    What exactly has Haris done or shown to be considered as an opening bat? You can't have a team with Haris, Malik, and Sarfraz...that is a recipe for scores lower than 300 and more likely in the range of 250. All these one dimensional players, however good they might be individually, just don't work in a team together. You can only have two and it's pretty clear Malik and Sarfraz are first picks.

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    Haris looks like the ideal player of pace and showed it in every game in New Zealand when he came in 4-5 overs the few games he played. So why waste the opening slot on anyone else and he gets out early and haris is essentially opening anyway. Haris cannot play spin anyway so why waste him in the middle over, sarfraz should bat at 4-5 and talat comes in. Those who don't play hardball will say to keep haris in middle over just asany years were wasted with hafeez opening when he could play good lower or even younis Khan in odis who has a great record at 6 but batted at 3.

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    Babar in ODIs is equivalent to Azhar Ali in tests. Their game is suited for an opener.

    Harris will be better in the middle order.

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    @babajee if that does happen, who do you think the middle order should be?

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    The biggest question is, does anyone in the Pakistani management know about Haris' swing and seam playing abilities?

    I would be surprised if they do.

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    problem will stay the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    The biggest question is, does anyone in the Pakistani management know about Haris' swing and seam playing abilities?

    I would be surprised if they do.
    This. I do not think that even Mickey has any idea regarding his ability to play seem and swing.

    Haris Sohail and Babar should both play in top 3. They will add stability at top 3 with decent scoring rate. This will also allow Sarfaraz to bat at 4. With Talat, Shadab and Faheem at 6,7 and 8 we have a strong lower order. Just need someone to bat at 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeamPak95 View Post
    @babajee if that does happen, who do you think the middle order should be?
    Sarfaraz at 4, Talat at 5, Malik/Hafeez at 6 (letís face it they arenít going anywhere) and Shadab at 7

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshakir411 View Post
    What exactly has Haris done or shown to be considered as an opening bat? You can't have a team with Haris, Malik, and Sarfraz...that is a recipe for scores lower than 300 and more likely in the range of 250. All these one dimensional players, however good they might be individually, just don't work in a team together. You can only have two and it's pretty clear Malik and Sarfraz are first picks.
    He is the best player of pace, swing, seam etc in Pakistan and finds the boundary with ease against them.

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    Harris is so hyped I saw him bat recently in NZ looked elegant but over weight & unfit (thatís 2 different things) canít be in the squad unless he is 10kg lighter. So Fakhar&Sami/Azhar for me

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    I think he is the safest option, but I'd really like to try Shazaib but i know thats far feteched


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    Actually think Sarfraz should open with Fakhar, I know he's a good player of spin and rotates the strike well but he also plays pace well (especially compared to some of our other bats), likes to disturb lengths and gets the scoreboard moving.

    While not a power hitter per say, he'd find the boundary consistently in power plays...


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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Sarfaraz at 4, Talat at 5, Malik/Hafeez at 6 (let’s face it they aren’t going anywhere) and Shadab at 7
    A lower order of

    Talat
    Shadab
    Fahim
    Hasan


    might just win the WC for Pakistan. That is AAG


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    yes it is a good option, Harris Sohail is best batsman against the pace bowling.

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    I have been saying this from long time.

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    Haris and Azhar in Tests wouldn't be a bad idea considering our next overseas Test series are in ENG and SA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Sarfaraz at 4, Talat at 5, Malik/Hafeez at 6 (let’s face it they aren’t going anywhere) and Shadab at 7
    As annoying as it is, if Hafeez get's his bowling cleared (for however long possible) then I think with his bowling alone he just about makes the team. Experience can come in all types of forms

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    Either Sami Aslam or Shan Masood should open with Fakhar. Both deserve it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    Either Sami Aslam or Shan Masood should open with Fakhar. Both deserve it.
    Must be a joke. right ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenstorm View Post
    Must be a joke. right ?
    Sami Aslam is a crisp timer of the ball, plus his List A record is impressive, S/R is 86. While Shan Masood is averaging 58, is in red hot form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    A lower order of

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    might just win the WC for Pakistan. That is AAG
    Pak need that to fully guarantee that WC win

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeamPak95 View Post
    Pak need that to fully guarantee that WC win

    If Fakhar and Babar fire then winning the WC would be a foregone conclusion


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    Sami Aslam is a crisp timer of the ball, plus his List A record is impressive, S/R is 86. While Shan Masood is averaging 58, is in red hot form.
    Have you watched them play ? you are still joking I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    If Fakhar and Babar fire then winning the WC would be a foregone conclusion
    Donít have such high hopes from a 40-42 averaging batsman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    If Fakhar and Babar fire then winning the WC would be a foregone conclusion
    If Inzi and Mickey don't mess up. We will go in 2019 WC as favourites. Last time we had this kind of team was in 1999 WC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Don’t have such high hopes from a 40-42 averaging batsman
    Oh I forgot about our batting history... Gautam Gambhir would be ATG in Pakistan after all


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    I would also consider Umar Akmal as an opener, will persist with him till 2019 WC, as he can hit big with ease. Two aggressive openers will be good for us.

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    It's necessary for Haris to open if Sarfaraz is to move up the order. This will also help him get off to good starts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    He is the best player of pace, swing, seam etc in Pakistan and finds the boundary with ease against them.
    There's no data tht sure if heat proves that...from what we have all seen in the PSL and his recent ODI showings is that he can't score close to a SR of 90 and gets himself in pressure because he can't find the boundary with ease. He's a good player...not sure if he's the right choice to open. He should replace Malik but I don't think that's the plan for Mickey and co.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshakir411 View Post
    There's no data tht sure if heat proves that...from what we have all seen in the PSL and his recent ODI showings is that he can't score close to a SR of 90 and gets himself in pressure because he can't find the boundary with ease. He's a good player...not sure if he's the right choice to open. He should replace Malik but I don't think that's the plan for Mickey and co.
    Do you have eyes? Use them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Do you have eyes? Use them.
    Yeah unfortunately every time I've seen him bat he's been slow. Since your eyes are so hawkish...how about you pull up Haris' last 10 innings and show us what SR he was batting at to prove me wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshakir411 View Post
    Yeah unfortunately every time I've seen him bat he's been slow. Since your eyes are so hawkish...how about you pull up Haris' last 10 innings and show us what SR he was batting at to prove me wrong.
    His SR goes down when he faces the spinners because he struggles to rotate the strike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshakir411 View Post
    Yeah unfortunately every time I've seen him bat he's been slow. Since your eyes are so hawkish...how about you pull up Haris' last 10 innings and show us what SR he was batting at to prove me wrong.
    Last 2 50s against NZ his SR was 80+ before the spinners came on from both ends. After which he slowed down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshakir411 View Post
    There's no data tht sure if heat proves that...from what we have all seen in the PSL and his recent ODI showings is that he can't score close to a SR of 90 and gets himself in pressure because he can't find the boundary with ease. He's a good player...not sure if he's the right choice to open. He should replace Malik but I don't think that's the plan for Mickey and co.
    He is best batsman in Pakistan against pacers. I have never seen him getting hurried up by a fast bowler and I have seen him play against Starc, Milne, Ferguson, Johnson. Very few batsman can play the kind of backfoot on drive that he plays against short deliveries. Usually his placement is very good which will be even more helpful in powerplay overs. He very rarely edges the balls towards slips. Haven't much seen him getting bowled or LBW either. Strike rotation is decent as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    His SR goes down when he faces the spinners because he struggles to rotate the strike.
    Not so much strike rotation as lack of boundaries I believe. Haris doesn't make shots against spinners. As far as singles go he gets about 4 singles off 6 balls (SR 66) which isn't that bad but this just continues on for 6-7 overs and kills the momentum. He doesn't sweep or paddle either. Haris I feel needs a get out of jail shot against spinners

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahdi View Post
    Last 2 50s against NZ his SR was 80+ before the spinners came on from both ends. After which he slowed down.
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenstorm View Post
    He is best batsman in Pakistan against pacers. I have never seen him getting hurried up by a fast bowler and I have seen him play against Starc, Milne, Ferguson, Johnson. Very few batsman can play the kind of backfoot on drive that he plays against short deliveries. Usually his placement is very good which will be even more helpful in powerplay overs. He very rarely edges the balls towards slips. Haven't much seen him getting bowled or LBW either. Strike rotation is decent as well.
    Shouldn't be batting at 5 or below if he's that good. Didn't Waqar try him as a #3? I haven't followed him too much so I'm not sure how he's done before but I saw him in the PSL and seemed like he got bogged down. Does he open the batting in domestics? Or play up the order at least?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenstorm View Post
    He is best batsman in Pakistan against pacers. I have never seen him getting hurried up by a fast bowler and I have seen him play against Starc, Milne, Ferguson, Johnson. Very few batsman can play the kind of backfoot on drive that he plays against short deliveries. Usually his placement is very good which will be even more helpful in powerplay overs. He very rarely edges the balls towards slips. Haven't much seen him getting bowled or LBW either. Strike rotation is decent as well.
    Has never been lbw in ODIs. Bowled only once as well when he was slogging

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    You can screem as much as you want for Harris to open,the revolutionary will select Azhar,Shehzad,or Hafeez as an opener .

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshakir411 View Post
    Shouldn't be batting at 5 or below if he's that good. Didn't Waqar try him as a #3? I haven't followed him too much so I'm not sure how he's done before but I saw him in the PSL and seemed like he got bogged down. Does he open the batting in domestics? Or play up the order at least?
    He is not a T20 batsman. He played few games at 3 in world cup 2015. Was our second best batsman after Sarfaraz there. Watch his shorts against India . They are on youtube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahdi View Post
    Has never been lbw in ODIs. Bowled only once as well when he was slogging
    Perfect candidate for an opener. This guy could have made his debut in 2011 but what a waste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshakir411 View Post
    Shouldn't be batting at 5 or below if he's that good. Didn't Waqar try him as a #3? I haven't followed him too much so I'm not sure how he's done before but I saw him in the PSL and seemed like he got bogged down. Does he open the batting in domestics? Or play up the order at least?
    He has played at 3 before at domestic and international level. Has done well at 3 in domestic cricket. Didn't get a consistent run in international level.

    Honestly he is not much of a T20 player. He may do a decent job as opener in T20s but the format isn't his strength. Zalmi were wasting their time playing him at 4-5 and they had better openers. Lahore could bhave made good use of him given how they were collapsing

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    The more I see Babar play, the more I think he'd be a better opener. I know it seems crazy to move him from 3 a position where he's done well, but Babar's an opener by trade, his game suits it, and the early powerplay allows him to take advantage of gaps in the field without much risk.

    He's also right handed which is great as it forms a right-left combo at the top.

    Haris could succeed as opener, but really I think Babar has better potential. Haris is used to playing as a middle order bat and has never really opened. His viability as opener is less to do with him being ideal, more trying to hide his flaws (unlike Babar). Haris on the other hand has experience playing at 3, opening would be more alien to him.

    Let's be bold an open with Babar and get a very strong opening pair.

    I'd play

    1. Fakhar
    2. Babar
    3. Haris
    4. Sarfraz
    5. Malik
    6. Talat
    7. Maqsood
    8. Fahim
    9. Shadab
    10. Hasan
    11. Amir

    That's a really strong batting line up, the whole XI can bat which hopefully will solve our batting problems to an extent. Haris, Malik, Fakhar, Talat, Maqsood even should be able to fill up the last 10 overs. I trust Sarfraz is a good enough captain to be able to get 10 overs between 5 part timers, especially when one of them used to be a bowler first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ads101 View Post
    The more I see Babar play, the more I think he'd be a better opener. I know it seems crazy to move him from 3 a position where he's done well, but Babar's an opener by trade, his game suits it, and the early powerplay allows him to take advantage of gaps in the field without much risk.

    He's also right handed which is great as it forms a right-left combo at the top.

    Haris could succeed as opener, but really I think Babar has better potential. Haris is used to playing as a middle order bat and has never really opened. His viability as opener is less to do with him being ideal, more trying to hide his flaws (unlike Babar). Haris on the other hand has experience playing at 3, opening would be more alien to him.

    Let's be bold an open with Babar and get a very strong opening pair.

    I'd play

    1. Fakhar
    2. Babar
    3. Haris
    4. Sarfraz
    5. Malik
    6. Talat
    7. Maqsood
    8. Fahim
    9. Shadab
    10. Hasan
    11. Amir

    That's a really strong batting line up, the whole XI can bat which hopefully will solve our batting problems to an extent. Haris, Malik, Fakhar, Talat, Maqsood even should be able to fill up the last 10 overs. I trust Sarfraz is a good enough captain to be able to get 10 overs between 5 part timers, especially when one of them used to be a bowler first.
    Its still missing a proper batsman who averages 50+ at a good strike rate and wins matches by guiding the innings consistently (Kohli type). Babar is the closest thing but he isnt there yet.

    Until then, no matter how strong the batting looks on paper, it will be the same old Pakistani batting lineup that is prone to collapses and cant keep up with the scoring rate with out hitting out and playing high risk cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ads101 View Post
    The more I see Babar play, the more I think he'd be a better opener. I know it seems crazy to move him from 3 a position where he's done well, but Babar's an opener by trade, his game suits it, and the early powerplay allows him to take advantage of gaps in the field without much risk.

    He's also right handed which is great as it forms a right-left combo at the top.

    Haris could succeed as opener, but really I think Babar has better potential. Haris is used to playing as a middle order bat and has never really opened. His viability as opener is less to do with him being ideal, more trying to hide his flaws (unlike Babar). Haris on the other hand has experience playing at 3, opening would be more alien to him.

    Let's be bold an open with Babar and get a very strong opening pair.

    I'd play

    1. Fakhar
    2. Babar
    3. Haris
    4. Sarfraz
    5. Malik
    6. Talat
    7. Maqsood
    8. Fahim
    9. Shadab
    10. Hasan
    11. Amir

    That's a really strong batting line up, the whole XI can bat which hopefully will solve our batting problems to an extent. Haris, Malik, Fakhar, Talat, Maqsood even should be able to fill up the last 10 overs. I trust Sarfraz is a good enough captain to be able to get 10 overs between 5 part timers, especially when one of them used to be a bowler first.
    I don't think it's a good idea to play only 3 specialist bowlers (Fahim is no specialist). Pakistan is a side which has traditionally relied on it's bowling attack, and depleting the bowling attack is really not the best thing to do. We must play by our strengths instead of making our batting line just a little longer. I don't think Maqsood is really needed at 7. I would rather drop him, and play another specialist bowler.


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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Haris is better than Babar against the new ball.
    maybe , but left - right combo is more effective.

    Other thing that can be done , put fakhar Zaman at number 3 . fakhar is pretty good against spin

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    He doesn't need to be the third seamer.

    ODI's :
    Fakhar Zaman
    Haris Sohail
    Babar Azam
    Hussain Talat/Shoaib Maqsood
    Shoaib Malik
    Sarfraz Ahmed
    Faheem Ashraf
    Shadab Khan
    Hasan Ali
    Mohammad Amir
    Usman Khan Shinwari/Junaid Khan

    We have enough spin options with Shadab/MAlik/Haris.

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    I still think this holds true in ODI. Not T20 ofc.

    Itís between Haris and Babar as opener.

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    If there is no Farhan then yes I hope they go with this, we have no other option. He should be told to play his shots though rather than look to bat through.


    Leave Babar at 3, i hope he isnt shifted.

    If we can score 320, I would back us to defend that against anyone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanigoneaussie View Post
    If there is no Farhan then yes I hope they go with this, we have no other option. He should be told to play his shots though rather than look to bat through.
    He can actually be a poor mans Sharjeel imo. Obviously he doesnít have to look to blast every ball out of the park but he has the ability to stroke boundaries all around the park. Great player of pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    He can actually be a poor mans Sharjeel imo. Obviously he doesn’t have to look to blast every ball out of the park but he has the ability to stroke boundaries all around the park. Great player of pace.
    I think thats asking to much of him but lets see.

    I worry that our team is a bit Fahkar or bust right now.

    Say we are chasing 300 plus or more than 160 in t20s. If Fahkar gets out quick I can see issues arising. Hence why i reckon we need two blasters top.

    I hope Haris can at least emualte Jayawardene as an opener. He averaged 44 at a strike rate of 90

    However lets hope he actually opens. There has been no sign that he will.


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    Thoughts on Sarfraz as an opener? He's opened 9 times for us in the past and averages 43. Including a world cup century in Australia if I remember correctly. Plus, perfect foil for Fakhar imo as he'll keep busy and rotate the strike at one end and let Fakhar do his job at the other end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fsharif96 View Post
    Thoughts on Sarfraz as an opener? He's opened 9 times for us in the past and averages 43. Including a world cup century in Australia if I remember correctly. Plus, perfect foil for Fakhar imo as he'll keep busy and rotate the strike at one end and let Fakhar do his job at the other end.
    He's better suited to middle-order as he prefers spin.

    Plus, being WK, and captain, opening might be too much work.

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    What do you think @SarfiBabarHaris

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    What do you think @SarfiBabarHaris
    haha yar would rather have Babar and Fakhar open and Haris at no 3
    Sarfraz at 4, Hussain Talat at 5

    Solid top 5 in odis ;)


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    haha yar would rather have Babar and Fakhar open and Haris at no 3
    Sarfraz at 4, Hussain Talat at 5

    Solid top 5 in odis ;)
    Who will you have at number 6

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Who will you have at number 6
    Malik or Shadab

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadPakFan View Post
    Malik or Shadab
    Number 6 has to be able to play pace so itís not Malik ....

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    Such as shame we didn't get to see Fakhar and Sharjeel opening together. I think Haris is better utilised in the middle order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kroll View Post
    Such as shame we didn't get to see Fakhar and Sharjeel opening together. I think Haris is better utilised in the middle order.
    I think so too, If Sharjeel was still here Fakhar and Sharjeel would've been one of the world's best opening pairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    haha yar would rather have Babar and Fakhar open and Haris at no 3
    Sarfraz at 4, Hussain Talat at 5

    Solid top 5 in odis ;)
    Think Babar should come in at 3 as he is better against spin and Haris is better against pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Who will you have at number 6
    Yar Shadab probably..


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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