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    Is Asif Ali the clean striker we need in the middle overs?

    I rate his hitting ability second to none in current Pak hitters. I see him making the Pak team very soon.
    Last edited by UN talkz; 14th March 2018 at 11:03.

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    Hacks are needed in ODI. Should replace either Hafeez or Malik within a year.

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    I agree, we need some power in the middle period. Umar akmal doesn't want to learn. Malik can't play fast bowling to save his life. Asif hits them clean. I've followed him since 2013 if I'm correct.

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    Very underrated this guy can be very useful for pak in t20s he can hit the sixes with ease both to spinner and fast bowler

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    No he is a hack.In the mould of khurram manzoor who is one of the worst batsman I have ever seen.He should be no where near the team.

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    I would rather have Rizwan as clean striker than him, only playing in IU due to friendship...

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    Maybe for T20s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badsha001 View Post
    I would rather have Rizwan as clean striker than him, only playing in IU due to friendship...
    Rizwan isn't even a hitter. Just an accumulator. Have too many in the team already. Really need someone who can take the game away from the opposition.

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    Even considering him for the ODI team would be a joke.

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    Isn't he like already 30?

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    No, complete hack, will falter MASSIVELY in ODIs, at best maybe a T20 option, but very limited and relies on brainless bowling in his arc.

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    nope


    guy averages 19 in LIST A

    I mean come on we need some standards.


    The only place i see for him is as a t20 opener , and that too because we are desperate


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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanigoneaussie View Post
    nope


    guy averages 19 in LIST A

    I mean come on we need some standards.


    The only place i see for him is as a t20 opener , and that too because we are desperate
    Even as a T20 opener I reckon the better bowling units will work him out. He is a clean striker off length balls but he was clueless against the short stuff and didn't deal too well with variations either. Again I will credit him with how good he is at hitting the other deliveries and how good his hitting technique is but the worst part about him is that he doesn't seem to have much batting intelligence. Last match he hit 10 off 2 balls yet the over was a waste because he kept trying to swing wildly. He'll be an improvement over the likes of Hafeez I reckon in T20s. He may be a decent lower order batsman in T20s where he has just one job but I don't have much hope.


    This just shows how average our batting reserves are. A guy who averages 19 in LA is being considered for selection by fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deems View Post
    I rate his hitting ability second to none in current Pak hitters. I see him making the Pak team very soon.
    no. he will fail big time against better opposition

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    Meh... He's nothing special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deems View Post
    Rizwan isn't even a hitter. Just an accumulator. Have too many in the team already. Really need someone who can take the game away from the opposition.
    Have you seen his batting lately, he really improved...

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    People keep on making fun of this guy calling him Misbah's buddy and what not, I tuned in expecting him to be a bum but he can actually smash the ball a bit and I would definitely consider him at the T20 level to begin with and take it from there


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    Nope

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    Reminds me of Naved Latif

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    Quote Originally Posted by badsha001 View Post
    Have you seen his batting lately, he really improved...
    Asif can hit from ball one, Rizwan cannot. Put it this way, Asif, in my opinion has the ability to change a game in a matter of couple of overs. That's what we need in t20. A quick fire 30. Hopefully he goes big tomorrow. I've seen him bat for a long time now. He can hit.

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    Rizwan should not be even playing cricket; he is that bad

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    may be for T20s but not ODIs..


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    Decision of Inclusion in playing 11 is too early i think. He may be hang on with the team just like Nawaz. But i really think Hussain Talat is far better option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloo paratha View Post
    Isn't he like already 30?
    26 he is

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    No. His strike rotation is poor.

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    This guy can smash the ball at will

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    Asif Ali is a clean striker. No blind slogs. Pak can use him at No.6 as a finisher and enforcer.

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    Aaaaaannd . Booom. Clean striker like I said. Him and Talat for no. 5 and 6 in Pak t20 squad.

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    Worth a try in the T20 team... if he comes off he will be destructive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badsha001 View Post
    Have you seen his batting lately, he really improved...
    Yes, I watched him tear the Peshawar attack apart.lol

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    He can be considered for the T20I squad, but no way should he be considered for the ODI squad.

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    Asif Ali, Talat are definitely coming in T20I team then to ODI, some fat will be shed aka seniors. Malik may still retain his place. Immad would have tough time with Shadab and Fahim in the picture. Talat will give tough time to Malik/Hafeez/Haris. We are still shot of couple of batsmen. It will take 2 years to recycle all the garbage and get better stroke makers... PSL is producing bowlers but not enough batsmen unfortunately. Even useless seniors are not getting replaced.

    On bowling front things are much better, with Afridi, Musa(who was very unfortunate to miss out) we are getting bite back...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    He can be considered for the T20I squad, but no way should he be considered for the ODI squad.
    I should have mentioned that in my opening post. He should only be considered for the t20 squad. Doesn't have the technique nor temperament to play the longer formats but he is in contention for the series against with hear.

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    Asif Ali doesn't get much love due to his friendship with Misbah and playing in the PSL mostly because of it.

    Still I like him. A reason to like him is the fact that he isn't an 30+ guy and can hit the ball big.

    I am sure if he is given a professional set up and good coaching advice, he'd come good and show some consistency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenstorm View Post
    No. His strike rotation is poor.
    So we should stick with Hafeez and Shehzad? Oh wait, there strike rotation isn't that great either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yasir View Post
    Asif Ali, Talat are definitely coming in T20I team then to ODI, some fat will be shed aka seniors. Malik may still retain his place. Immad would have tough time with Shadab and Fahim in the picture. Talat will give tough time to Malik/Hafeez/Haris. We are still shot of couple of batsmen. It will take 2 years to recycle all the garbage and get better stroke makers... PSL is producing bowlers but not enough batsmen unfortunately. Even useless seniors are not getting replaced.

    On bowling front things are much better, with Afridi, Musa(who was very unfortunate to miss out) we are getting bite back...
    For a second there I thought you mean Shahid, the other Afridi still hasn't completely registered.

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    He has potential, but a bit reluctant to select a guy who's poor in list A and first class cricket, with a average domestic T20 record to boot too (despite a good PSL series).

    Pretty against picking just T20 specialists unless it's solely for the T20 world cup (and even then ideally no). See T20s more as practice to work out the best teams for ODIs.

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    He should be drafted into 20 20 team as soon as possible , and even in OD he can be ideal number 6 .

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    Hussain Talat has the higher ceiling. Talat is also a lot younger, plus hes an all rounder.

    With Talat and Ashraf, Pak dont really need Asif.

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    I like this top 5 in T20Is:

    Fakhar
    Babar
    Talat
    Sarfraz*+
    Asif

    Not a fan of Friend, but he's much better than Waterboy, Haxood, Mental midget, Selfie, etc.

    Until we find an opener he can be in the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirris View Post
    So we should stick with Hafeez and Shehzad? Oh wait, there strike rotation isn't that great either.
    I think we need to find a solid dynamic batsman to bat at 5. Having Talat, Shadab, Asif and Faheem at 5,6,7 and 8 can lead us to trouble if wickets fall early at the top.

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    Definitely deserves a go in T20s.

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    People advocating his selection should have a look at his LO domestic stats. He averages in teens.

    I know stats dont mean everything but if they are so miserably poor for a guy who has placed a decent amount of games, they need to be respected.

    We could make a case of talent for a guy who averages a mediocre 30-35 in domestics but t Asif averages something like 18 or 19. Cannot ignore this big sign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deems View Post
    I should have mentioned that in my opening post. He should only be considered for the t20 squad. Doesn't have the technique nor temperament to play the longer formats but he is in contention for the series against with hear.
    Yes he should be in T20s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    People advocating his selection should have a look at his LO domestic stats. He averages in teens.

    I know stats dont mean everything but if they are so miserably poor for a guy who has placed a decent amount of games, they need to be respected.

    We could make a case of talent for a guy who averages a mediocre 30-35 in domestics but t Asif averages something like 18 or 19. Cannot ignore this big sign.
    At 4 down or 5 down in T20s you just need 20 quick runs to change the game

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    Guy can also open the innings as he has done in the past for Faislabad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloo paratha View Post
    Isn't he like already 30?
    Haha probably. He looked 25 back when his official age was "19"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    People advocating his selection should have a look at his LO domestic stats. He averages in teens.

    I know stats dont mean everything but if they are so miserably poor for a guy who has placed a decent amount of games, they need to be respected.

    We could make a case of talent for a guy who averages a mediocre 30-35 in domestics but t Asif averages something like 18 or 19. Cannot ignore this big sign.
    Yeah that is exactly my concern. I remember watching him back in the days of the Faisalabad Wolves; he was very mediocre. He can hit a long ball but is very inconsistent, often mishitting in the air and getting out. It would probably be like having a new Afridi. He was nearly caught out twice some games ago on his way to scoring 20 odd. I understand why people are interested though; we don't have a lot of big hitting options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    People advocating his selection should have a look at his LO domestic stats. He averages in teens.

    I know stats dont mean everything but if they are so miserably poor for a guy who has placed a decent amount of games, they need to be respected.

    We could make a case of talent for a guy who averages a mediocre 30-35 in domestics but t Asif averages something like 18 or 19. Cannot ignore this big sign.
    You need to pick players according to the requirements of the team. A good power hitter down the order in T20s is exactly what we need and he fits the bill better any other player.

    Sure, if he fails you can throw him out but his performances in PSL warrant a call-up.

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    okay now i am a fan boy to this lad... something to look forward to in him...

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    Is Asif Ali the clean striker we need in the middle overs?

    What a clean striker he is indeed! Fearless and looks into the eyes of the opposition no matter what the situation is. I´ve gradually become a fan of Asif Ali and yesterday´s cameo was the final blow for me. Find of the tournament for me.

    Select him for Pakistan right away!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Devil View Post
    You need to pick players according to the requirements of the team. A good power hitter down the order in T20s is exactly what we need and he fits the bill better any other player.

    Sure, if he fails you can throw him out but his performances in PSL warrant a call-up.
    Not just T20, in ODI if you want to score 100+(on consistent basis) in last 10 overs, you need 2/3 power hitters. Asif, Talat and Faheem can help us achieve that. Malik, Sarfraz, Hafeez are dud against pacers, existing seniors can never do that. Wickets in ODI are mostly flat, specially in ICC WC, you have to make a team that can score 330+. Even Fakhir was billed as hack, but he helped us to score 340 in CT final, if he was not there, there was no way we could have score those runs...If you don't pick these guys, our par score will be 250 like in NZ series, fundamental problem in ODI is lack of power in the team...Just look at ENG...We lost Sharjeel at worse time, otherwise we would not be debating that...


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    Why not? whats the harm in trying him out..he could do a job for us in T20's and he may only improve as he is given more exposure..definatley not a Test player but in tamasha cricket he can help us out..

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    He was striking ball effortlessly yday... what hitting
    Dont know much abt him but he has been special this season


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    He could be a decent temporary solution for the nr 6/7 spot for the death overs.

    If you send him earlier than that then he will tuk tuk half of the time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince of Pakistan View Post
    He could be a decent temporary solution for the nr 6/7 spot for the death overs.

    If you send him earlier than that then he will tuk tuk half of the time.
    He had to come early yday bcz of fall of wkts and he didn't do tuk tuk, he smashed them out of park


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    Asif Ali is good for T20's, should be included in the squad against WestIndies along with Hussain Talat.

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    This guy hits the pacers so clean.

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    3 sixes to Hasan Ali, absolutely smoked.

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    But but but... he is Misbah's friend.


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    Changed the game in 3 balls. Absolutely amazing. We need him for Pakistan.

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    Power of friendship

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    Good thing is guy can open as well if needed

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    It would be awesome if this guy was elegible for Pakistan in ODI and T20, but unfortunately he does not hold the qualifications that Hafeez and Shoaib Malik have who are both certified MBA's.

    MBA = Mediocre Batsman Always

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    Just remember he was selected because he was Misbahs friend and for nothing else @Abdul

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    Asif Ali, Hussain Talat and Sohail
    Akhtar all three need to be on the fringes of the T20 team.

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    He will surely get his first cap for Pakistan in the next T20 series.

    Superb talent.


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    Lucky, Choked under pressure first and then made his second chance count under pressure


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    Said it from the very first match that guy has got hitting ability. He showed that in season 1 as well.

    Some people were making fun

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    Tape ball product.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    Tape ball product.
    Is that a bad thing?

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    I will be honest, at the start of the tournament I didn't think he was good enough. But the more I have seen of him I realised I was wrong on him. He should be given a chance in the national team because we don't have many players who can clear the boundary like he can. Credit to Misbah for sticking with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Is that a bad thing?
    No, there's a whole factory where he came from.


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    Asif Ali is so weak against the short ball that even he knows that's how he will be targeted so he set himself up for it and Hassan Ali obliged. Smart guy

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    Has a problem against short stuff

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    Clean hitter. Get him in the T20I side ASAP.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Lucky, Choked under pressure first and then made his second chance count under pressure
    In his own words during the post match interview he said that he was under no pressure at all, if he was he'd not have played that initial shot, his goal is to play his natural game regardless of the situation and has done the job in other domestic KO games as well which were great experiences.
    Last edited by Abdullah719; 25th March 2018 at 22:38.


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    Definitely someone to work on as a hitter down the order.

    Has the ability to strike it clean and big.


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    Get him in the team now. Pakistan doesnt have a cleaner hitter of the cricket ball at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamza_ View Post
    Has a problem against short stuff
    You do realise 2 of his 3 sixes in the last over were off short balls.

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