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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    I could have come up with a fairly coherent Top Six for Australia:

    1. Marcus Harris
    2. Matt Renshaw
    3. Usman Khawaja
    4. Joe Burns
    5. Peter Handscomb
    6. Tim Paine
    7. Mitchell Marsh
    8. Pat Cummins

    What was the point of investing in Renshaw, Burns and Handscomb only to replace them with a 35 year old Shaun Marsh, Labuschagne, Finch and Head?
    Head was Australia's best batsman this series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    He was already in the playing eleven!

    He was playing his 8th Test in three months against first England, then South Africa.

    I think we just need to be clear what type of player Tim Paine is.

    There are three types of modern wicketkeeper:

    1. Superb keepers who can bat to an average of 30-40
    Tim Paine
    Peter Nevill
    Sarfraz Ahmed when batting to his potential

    2. Average keepers who can bat well or very well
    Adam Gilchrist
    Kumar Sangakkara
    BJ Watling
    Quinton De Kock

    3. Iron-Gloves goalkeepers who are good batsmen
    Jos Buttler
    Jonny Bairstow
    Matthew Wade
    R Pant
    All the “average keepers” that you mentioned are comfortably better than Sarfraz. Superb keeper? I am sure even his family would disagree.

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    Gilchrist and Watling were/are average keepers


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Gilchrist and Watling were/are average keepers
    Even QdK and Sanga are not average. QdK is the most athletic keeper these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    All the “average keepers” that you mentioned are comfortably better than Sarfraz. Superb keeper? I am sure even his family would disagree.
    I want Sarfraz to be replaced by Mohammad Rizwan, but I actually think he was a really good keeper when he was more confident.

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    Dang! Now i have seen it all - Gilchrist/Watling were/are average keepers & Sarfaraz is a superb keeper??
    Can we nominate this for JOTW (joke of the week)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    Just a temporary stand in captain. A player who never wouldnt have even gotten to the playing 11 had it not been due to the sand paper gate.
    how..? he was even there before sandpaper happened...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    I could have come up with a fairly coherent Top Six for Australia:

    1. Marcus Harris
    2. Matt Renshaw
    3. Usman Khawaja
    4. Joe Burns
    5. Peter Handscomb
    6. Tim Paine
    7. Mitchell Marsh
    8. Pat Cummins

    What was the point of investing in Renshaw, Burns and Handscomb only to replace them with a 35 year old Shaun Marsh, Labuschagne, Finch and Head?
    Why do you have Mitch Marsh in your lineup? He is perhaps the most mediocre Australian all rounder I have seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dildilpak View Post
    Dang! Now i have seen it all - Gilchrist/Watling were/are average keepers & Sarfaraz is a superb keeper??
    Can we nominate this for JOTW (joke of the week)
    Gilly is a legend because of his swashbuckling batting, which could win a Test in a session.

    But he was always a deeply mediocre glovesman, which is why he was Ian Healy's understudy and didn't make his Test debut until he was 27 years old.

    In fact, he had to leave New South Wales and move to Perth to even play State Cricket, because his glovework wasn't good enough to displace Phil Emery from the New South Wales team, where it was felt that they needed the better keeper to keep to Stuart Macgill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arham_PakFan View Post
    Why do you have Mitch Marsh in your lineup? He is perhaps the most mediocre Australian all rounder I have seen.
    Yes, Mitchell Marsh is pretty rubbish.

    But in Australia and South Africa and New Zealand you need a fourth quick bowler in your team to keep the others fresh and fast (ask Pakistan!).

    And that fourth quick has to be able to bat. And Mitch Marsh is the only option currently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    He was already in the playing eleven!

    He was playing his 8th Test in three months against first England, then South Africa.

    I think we just need to be clear what type of player Tim Paine is.

    There are three types of modern wicketkeeper:

    1. Superb keepers who can bat to an average of 30-40
    Tim Paine
    Peter Nevill
    Sarfraz Ahmed when batting to his potential

    2. Average keepers who can bat well or very well
    Adam Gilchrist
    Kumar Sangakkara
    BJ Watling
    Quinton De Kock

    3. Iron-Gloves goalkeepers who are good batsmen
    Jos Buttler
    Jonny Bairstow
    Matthew Wade
    R Pant
    Junaid you are wrong about BJ Watling and DeKock, i think they are very good keepers and good batsmen as well, the current best wicketkeeper is Ben Foakes, excellent batsman and an excellent gloveman
    Agreed with the others on the list but Sanga was keeper only in Odis and I think Neville although a good keeper was not really outstanding like Ben Foakes and Paine

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    Paine is struggling with the bat so far this summer - and has a certain Mr Wade breathing down his neck.

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    Paine is a nice guy but I never understood his selection. Wade is much better than him and so is Nevill.


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    Rishab Pant summed things up in just two words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USofA View Post
    Rishab Pant summed things up in just two words.
    What did he say ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaankeJi View Post
    What did he say ?
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    He fails with the bat again.

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    University degree means zilch on cricket field.

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    They should just make Smith captain again and put an end to this silly experiment.

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    Let Handscomb or Wade keep in Test. Much better batting option.


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    They should make Wade keep and play a specialist batsman instead of Paine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabbar Singh View Post
    They should just make Smith captain again and put an end to this silly experiment.
    I don’t see Smith being captain again. Not much candidates if you want to get rid of Paine. Maybe Cummins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Viper View Post
    I don’t see Smith being captain again. Not much candidates if you want to get rid of Paine. Maybe Cummins?
    they rotate their quicks so don't think he can be captain even though he's Aus's best fast bowler. Maybe Lyon as captain?

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    The way this ashes is going smith may just redeem himself should captaincy come back again.

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    Paine has the opportunity to do something that no Aussie captain has done since 2001. That is winning an Ashes in England.

    Ponting and Clarke both failed to win Ashes in England.


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    Only have a soft spot for Australia because of Paine. The guy deserves some success as captain and nothing would be better than winning the Ashes in England.

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    Smith should get the captaincy back. It is a joke that a non-performing player like Paine is captaining Australia when a much superior player is available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    Smith should get the captaincy back. It is a joke that a non-performing player like Paine is captaining Australia when a much superior player is available.
    Smith has been de facto captain, quite overtly. He's banned for two years from captaincy role.

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    Pat Cummins should be the captain.

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    Captain Paine fails again with the bat.

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    Probably the worst captain to be playing for Australia.

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    I am afraid his batting is probably not good enough. Australia can give the gloves to Wade or even give Carey a go.

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    I literally have no faith on any Australian bat in this side bar Smith and Warner (home conditions only). Carey can be given a chance ,he won't do bad than some of the guys out there.

    Warner
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    The problem basically is that if Cummins gets injured or became unfit, it will again become hard for the management to make any new guy as captain.

    They wont be wanting Cummins or Starc to give the captaincy responsibility.

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    The good guy act won’t keep him in the team forever. An excellent WK but a painfully average batsman. Would have been a good backup for Healy in the 90’s, but he is a misfit in this era.

    I expect him to be axed after the Ashes with Carey replacing him.

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    His keeping is fine, his leadership is excellent and his batting is average.

    The problem is that for the last five years the specialist batsmen apart from Smith and Warner have been not good enough for this level.

    I suspect that this will make them call up Carey to strengthen the batting, but his keeping is of a very low standard unfortunately.

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    He was never a long term captain. It was always a short term move.

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    I think he is the Sarfarz of Aus. team. Playing as a specialist captain. Usually not a route for a long career.

    I believe he is only in the team because the two cheaters with sandpaper fetish cannot be made captain and the fact that there are no other candidates that are certain to play all tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    He was never a long term captain. It was always a short term move.
    They needed an “elite honest” captain just before they turned back to their old ways.

    Winning and pissing off the world ways.

    Old habits die hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    He was never a long term captain. It was always a short term move.
    You are correct.

    He became captain after the spot-fixing happened. They never replaced him.

    Smith should become captain again.


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    And today out for a duck.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    You are correct.

    He became captain after the spot-fixing happened. They never replaced him.

    Smith should become captain again.
    Ball tampering not spot fixing.

    I think Smith will captain Australia again. He wants to as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManFan View Post
    They needed an “elite honest” captain just before they turned back to their old ways.

    Winning and pissing off the world ways.

    Old habits die hard.
    It was a clever move. Now the team is settled they can make more long term decisions.

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    not impressed by his captaincy in these final stages - seems no one advising him


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    Paine has played well today. This partnership is batting England out of the game here.

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    Finally amongst the runs. Dropped a couple of times, though.


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    He’s got the most amazing hands as a keeper, even after all those injuries.

    I know his batting is marginal (but so is Carey’s with a red ball).

    But he really is a lovely, lovely keeper.

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    Great game for Paine this - commanding behind the stumps, an important first innings knock with the bat, a perfectly timed declaration on the fourth evening, and is about to lift the Ashes in England which is an achievement that has eluded many Australian captains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    Great game for Paine this - commanding behind the stumps, an important first innings knock with the bat, a perfectly timed declaration on the fourth evening, and is about to lift the Ashes in England which is an achievement that has eluded many Australian captains.
    yes, negative is his decision making over DRS, if for that he'd have already achieved the above.

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    Made it difficult again and got there in the end, but only just.



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    Happy for Paine. Deserves respect for the job he’s done.

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    Should be dropped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    The good guy act won’t keep him in the team forever. An excellent WK but a painfully average batsman. Would have been a good backup for Healy in the 90’s, but he is a misfit in this era.

    I expect him to be axed after the Ashes with Carey replacing him.
    well then...

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    Simply should not be in first team line up... give captaincy to someone else who deserves to be in the team.

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    I think Paine should continue until Smith is eligible for captaincy. He did alright.


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    I didn't expect Paine to retain the Ashes in England, so full credit to him for leading the side with a lot of enterprise and intelligence. He deserves to retain the captaincy for the next twelve months (tests against Pakistan, New Zealand, and Bangladesh), and then reassess considering Australia's position in the WTC.

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    Paine did something Ponting and Clarke couldn't do (retaining Ashes in England).

    Well done.


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    Loving the humble pies being dished out by Captain Paine. It could be argued that giving him the captaincy has freed up Smith to focus completely on his batting. Paine is a decent batsman (important 50 in the first innings), a very good keeper, and a good captain (horrible DRS reviews aside). His decision to bring on Loosebuschange was a stroke of genius.


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    Can't really give credit to Paine for freeing Smith of the captaincy; that was circumstantial and if not Paine somebody else would have been captain anyway. There's nothing special about him as a keeper, he's an average bat at the very best and a mediocre captain - Aus would have been 3-0 up had it not been for that hare-brained review. He also took too long to declare in the 1st and 4th Tests.
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    Australia captain Tim Paine was effusive in his praise for his side, after they retained the Ashes with an "emotional" win over England at Old Trafford on Sunday, 8 September.

    Australia beat England by 185 runs, with Paine becoming the country's first captain to bring the urn home from England, since Steve Waugh in 2001.

    "I didn't think it would be this emotional," Paine said after the win. "The amount of work that's tried to go on in to retain the Ashes has been enormous. I’m really proud of this group."

    Paine had special praise for Australia star batsman Steve Smith, who in his comeback series, has disintegrated England with a deluge of runs. In five innings this series, Smith has racked up 671 runs, averaging 134.20, with a lowest score of 82.

    "I don't know what to say [about Smith]," Paine said. "He is clearly the best player we've seen, there's no doubt about that. His ability to go anywhere in the world and score runs against all types of attacks is just phenomenal.

    "People don't see how driven he is and how he trains, eats and sleeps batting"
    "Anyone who’s watched him bat knows the talent, hunger and skill that he has got. People don't see how driven he is and how he trains, eats and sleeps batting.

    "He is just a genius, and I never had any doubt he would come back and be the player he was. The scary thing is he's getting better. I don't know where it is going to stop, but we are enjoying being on the ride, that is for sure."

    Paine said that though it had always been a dream to win the Ashes on English soil, he never expected to get the job done as a leader – a job that past greats, such as Ricky Ponting and Michael Clarke, had left unfinished.

    "My dream as a cricketer was to come here and win an Ashes [as a player]," said Paine. "But I certainly didn't want to be the captain winning the Ashes.

    "It doesn't mean any more or any less to me. I have said a lot of times, my part in this team is one of many jobs that people are doing. I just get to, I suppose, get a lot of credit at times, but it is certainly something we share around us between the players and staff. I am just happy to be a part of it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SensiblePakFan View Post
    well then...
    Now is a good time to give him a fitting farewell. I think Australia should not be emotional about this decision - is Paine the best wicket-keeper batsman in the country as far as Test cricket is concerned, and does he make the team purely on his cricketing abilities? I think the answer to both questions is a resounding no, which means that there is insignificant value of keeping Paine in the team because of his leadership qualities.

    He is a decent captain but Australia have retained the Ashes because of the brilliance of Smith rather than the brilliance of his tactics. Most teams ensure that their captain is among their best players, and there is no reason why Australia should buck that trend for a pretty substandard cricketer like Paine.

    If Australia do not want to go back to Smith, I really do believe their is considerable value in appointing Lyon as captain. Yes he has no prior leadership experience, but that is not a necessity. He makes the team on 100% merit, he is not part of their rotation policy, he is vastly experienced but still young enough to lead the team for 4-5 years, and he has a heck of a cricket brain.

    Outside Smith and Lyon, Australia don’t have realistic options.

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    Paine will remain as Australian captain, one of the worlds best keepers and a capable batsman.

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    crushing eng in eng shld give tim paine some leeway ... dont see him going anywhere... apart from the robbery of headingly, where he lost his cool, he has generally been a good captain... had wade put in some good performances other than his single 100... he could have been underpressure but currently no pressure on him ...

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    Steve Smith should be the captain of Australia, nothing will change my mind about that. But I respect the job Tim Paine has done.

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    Test captain Tim Paine believes that with the pace attack they have got and with Steve Smith in the side, Australia have the potential to be the toughest team to beat in world cricket.

    While the 135-run win the final Ashes Test allowed England to level the hard-fought series on Sunday, 15 September, Australia, as previous holders, were able to retain the Ashes for the next two-and-a-half years, a feat no Australian team has achieved since 2001.

    "Taking the urn home was what we came here to do," Paine said after the end of the series. "We're thrilled by that. This game puts a bit of a dampener on it, but, overall, if you said we would be taking them [the Ashes] home, we would have jumped at that."

    Australia's success in the series was led by former captain Steve Smith, who returned to Test cricket after a year-long gap. He accumulated 774 runs in seven innings at an impressive average of 110.57. The team also led the bowling charts, with Pat Cummins finishing as the highest wicket-taker with 29 scalps in five games. Paine felt that if the rest of the line-up offered them more support, the team would vastly improve – and that he saw as his "unfinished business".

    "Steve had a great series and won a couple of Tests by himself, but we've got a couple of parts that we need to improve," he said. "As a whole series, we had a heap of good moments in a country where Australia hasn't had a lot of success for a long time. We can be proud of that.

    This game puts a bit of a dampener on it, but overall if you said we would be taking them [the Ashes] home, we would have jumped at that.
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    "I still have a bit to give, but we're always trying to develop more leaders in our group and there is unfinished business – it's about getting better. If we can click them into gear when he [Smith] is at the height of his powers, and with the pace attack we have got, in the next few years we are going to be a hard team to beat," he explained.

    Smith, who was Australia's Player of the Series, was pleased with his return and described how his century in the first innings of the first Ashes Test set the tone for the rest of the series. Smith smashed 144 in the Edgbaston Test, which Australia won by 251 runs.

    Steve Smith scored 774 runs in the series at an average of 110.57Steve Smith scored 774 runs in the series at an average of 110.57
    "The first innings was my favourite innings of the whole series," Smith said. "The first Test is always important in an Ashes series, and to pull the team out of trouble at the time, it gave me the confidence to know I could slot straight back in and perform.

    "It was a long 18 months [between Tests], and I have a lot of people to thank. I have given it my all while I've been here for the last four-and-a-half months, but I didn't have much more to give today.

    "I was pretty cooked mentally and physically and I'm looking forward to a couple of weeks off and heading back for the Australian summer," he added.

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    Captain Tim Paine has backed David Warner to return to his best Test form, all but confirming the left-hander will open the batting in the first Test of the summer.

    Warner is set to return to the Sheffield Shield next month for the first time in almost two years, having been rested from the early rounds of the domestic season following the Ashes in England.

    After he returned to international cricket with a barnstorming World Cup campaign, Warner averaged just 9.50 in five Ashes Tests as Stuart Broad dominated their individual battle.

    But Paine says Warner, who averages almost 60 in Test cricket in Australia compared to 34 abroad, has a record hard to ignore.

    "I think he is," Paine told 7News when asked if the 32-year-old is guaranteed to play the first Test of the summer, against Pakistan at the Gabba on November 21-25.

    "I think he’s got enough credits in the bank.

    "We know how good a player he is.

    "Opening the batting in England can be really difficult, particularly if you’re a left-hander and Stuart Broad’s bowling at you.

    "That was a difficult period for David (but) the way he was around our group as a senior player was outstanding.

    "It’s easy to do that when you’re going well but to have him still upbeat and still pushing others to get better when he was going through a rough patch himself was great to see."

    Despite Australia retaining the Ashes urn in England for the first time in 18 years, their batting line-up for the home summer is far from settled, meaning there will be extra weight on runs scored in the early rounds of the Marsh Sheffield Shield.

    Steve Smith, Marnus Labuschagne and Matthew Wade were the only Australian batsmen to make any solid contributions in England, meaning Ashes tourists like Warner, Marcus Harris, Usman Khawaja, Travis Head, Cameron Bancroft and Mitchell Marsh will all be desperate for solid contributions early in the Shield season.

    The likes of Joe Burns, Kurtis Patterson, Will Pucovski and Peter Handscomb, who were all late omissions from the Ashes squad, could force their way back into Test calculations with solid starts to the red-ball portion of the summer.

    It sets up a mouth-watering start to the Shield season on October 10, headlined by a clash at the Gabba between Queensland – featuring Khawaja, Labuschagne and Burns – against a NSW Blues side that is expected to feature the likes of Warner and Smith as well as bowling stars Pat Cummins, Josh Hazlewood, Mitchell Starc and Nathan Lyon.

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    Australia Test captain Tim Paine has scored his second first-class hundred - 13 years after his first.

    The 34-year-old hit 121 for Tasmania against Western Australia at The WACA in the Sheffield Shield as he passed three figures for the first time since 2006 against the same opposition.

    Paine struck 215 at The WACA 13 years ago in what was his fifth first-class match but had to wait until his 125th game - and a further 4,738 days - to score another century.

    Current Australia coach Justin Langer was opening the batting for Western Australia when Paine notched his maiden first-class hundred.

    Paine captained Australia to an Ashes retention against England this summer after the five-match series ended 2-2.

    Paine captained Australia to an Ashes retention against England this summer after the five-match series ended 2-2.

    David Warner fared even worse in the Ashes, averaging 9.50 after scoring just 95 runs in 10 knocks, including three ducks in a row, but returned to form this week with 125 for New South Wales against Queensland.

    But Steve Smith, who managed 774 runs in seven Ashes innings at 110.57 and only failed to pass fifty once, was out for a duck in the same game.

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    'Tim Paine doing a great job as Test captain' – Justin Langer

    Australia coach Justin Langer heaped praise on Test captain Tim Paine, while downplaying the talk about Steve Smith returning to the helm after the end of his Cricket Australia-imposed leadership ban.

    Paine has endured some tough times while in charge. In his first full series in the role, Australia lost 1-0 to Pakistan in two Tests in the United Arab Emirates, and later suffered the setback of becoming the first captain from the country to lose a series at home against India.

    But things have begun looking up for him since then. Australia beat Sri Lanka 2-0 at home and then became the first Australian side to retain the Ashes in England since 2001, courtesy a hard-fought 2-2 draw. Langer was all praise for the captain, though he acknowledged that the 35-year-old had scope for improvement.

    Langer even indicated that the Tasmania wicket-keeper batsman had earned the right to determine how long he wanted to continue in his current capacity, and that the end of Smith's leadership suspension, which he earned for his involvement in the ball-tampering scandal, in March 2020 will have no bearing on Paine's spot in the team.

    "Tim Paine is doing a brilliant job at the moment, he's been outstanding in his time as captain," Langer told ABC Grandstand. "However long he wants to keep playing for, that's another thing. I'm sure, like all these things, it'll get worked out when the timing's right.

    "The beauty of Tim Paine is he will keep getting better. Even at his age, with his youthful enthusiasm, he's got lots of areas he can improve, and that's heartening for him and for us. At the moment, he's doing a great job."

    Langer also pondered whether handing the captaincy over to Smith when Paine does step down would be a wise move at all. While Smith is the best Test batsman in the world at the moment, he is also a star in the limited-overs line-ups for Australia.

    He featured prominently for Australia over their extended English summer, which comprised the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2019, followed by the Ashes. By the end of the Tests, during which he piled on 774 runs at an astounding average of 110.57, Smith admitted to feeling exhausted. Langer is worried that the added pressure of captaincy may weigh Smith down further.

    "We have to work out what's best, I mean you saw how exhausted he was [at the end of the Ashes] from the effort he puts into his batting. Whether he wants the burden of captaincy as well, that'll have to be something we work out over time."

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    Steve Smith is technically permitted to captain the Test team again once his Cricket Australia ban ends in March.

    But whether he takes the armband from Tim Paine or not is a topic that’s dividing the country’s smartest and most experienced commentators.

    Smith was banned from holding an official leadership role following the infamous Cape Town ball tampering saga that rocked Australian cricket 18 months ago.

    Relative Test rookie Paine was thrust into the chair and has handled the job with aplomb, winning back the hearts and minds of cricket fans and restoring the image - at least in part - of the nation’s cricket team.

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    But with Smith now only five months away from having the captaincy ban lifted, some experts are calling for the world’s No.1 Test batsman to resume his role as skipper.

    “I think Steve Smith should be captain when his (suspension) is up,” Test legend Mark Waugh said at the Fox Cricket launch on Thursday.

    “I think he’s the logical choice from where I sit. He’s been captain before, he’s one player you know is going to be in the team, tactically I think he’s pretty smart.

    “I don’t see too many other options to be honest.”

    Paine has done such a good job over the past year-and-a-half that many pundits believe he should remain captain of the team until his time as a player is up.

    Paine led Australia to an Ashes series draw in England only a couple of months ago, retaining the urn in a rare result on foreign soil for the Aussies.

    Legendary spin bowler Shane Warne says the job should be Paine’s for as long as he wants to keep playing.

    “I’m really happy with Tim Paine, I think everyone is,” Warne said on Thursday.

    “We’ve all been pretty impressed with how Tim Paine has captained the side, he’s a very good leader of men, he’s good tactically.

    “I hope Tim Paine captains for as long as he can, and if he makes runs he can captain for as long as he wants.”

    Paine’s downfall in recent times has been his form with the bat.

    While no one can put a serious knock on his work behind the stumps or as captain of the side, he averaged only 20.00 in the Ashes series with a high score of 58.

    The Aussies have five Tests this home summer - against Pakistan and then New Zealand - and Paine will want to find some fort with the bat.

    But is his spot in the side in jeopardy?

    “He’s got to make some runs at No.7. If he’s making runs at seven it lengthens that order,” Warne said.

    Waugh says Paine is in no danger of being dropped from the Test team this summer.

    “I personally don’t think he is (in danger), I’d have him there for the summer,” Waugh said.

    “But I guess in his favour is there’s not a lot of obvious replacements as captain if that was the way the selectors wanted to go.

    “I thought he kept very well in England. He didn’t quite make the runs he would have liked to have made.

    “I wouldn’t be too worried about changing Tim Paine’s position in the side, he’s going to be there for the summer as far as I’m concerned.”

    With Paine’s lean form with the bat and Smith unable to captain the team until April, there appears to be a lack of leadership depth in the Australian side.

    Fast bowler Pat Cummins has been floated as a potential captain, but has a tendency to miss matches while either rested or injured.

    Matthew Wade captains Tasmania and is almost guaranteed to be picked in the first Test team for the Gabba match.

    David Warner is a Test veteran but is banned from ever having a leadership role within the team, due to his own role in Cape Town.

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    Gilchrist sees ‘no rush to push Paine out’ of the Test side

    ormer Australia wicket-keeper Adam Gilchrist has backed the Test team’s incumbent Tim Paine to continue leading the side, after question marks emerged over his future in the aftermath of the Ashes series in England.

    With Steve Smith proving to be unstoppable with the bat through the five-Test showdown and fast approaching the end of his two-year Cricket Australia-imposed leadership ban for ball tampering, there have been increasing murmurs about the future of Paine in the Test side.

    Paine’s batting credentials have often been the subject of criticism – he has two first-class centuries in 126 games – and talks around his long-term place in the side have only grown louder after his moderate success at the Ashes, where he totalled 180 runs in ten innings.

    "[If you look at] what he took on, when he took it on, he in partnership with Justin [Langer, the coach] and all the players have done a remarkable job over the past 12 months to just get a nice, stable balance back,” Gilchrist said at an event in Mumbai. “I can't see any rush to push him out, as long as he's still performing, like we all had to, to stay in the team. Like every other player, he's got a hold of his spot in the team as being selected as the best available option for that player type. I think he's doing a wonderful job [as captain]."

    Gilchrist also spoke glowingly of Australia’s contention for next year’s home T20 World Cup. They have begun their build to the showpiece T20I event with an unbeaten run after five games in the format to start off their home season.

    Having brought in a wealth of experienced T20 specialists into their squad, it appears as though Australia are finally getting their head around T20 cricket, as they push for their maiden triumph in a world event in the format.

    "I think Australia are really well-placed, seeing how they've started the summer. They love the conditions, they play well in the bigger grounds. We've got everyone available now, and probably for the first time, Australia are looking to pick their best XI regularly, rather than just for the World Cups,” Gilchrist said.

    “They're probably still working out whether they should play two spin bowlers or one spinner, with a batting allrounder like Mitch [Mitchell] Marsh or [Marcus] Stoinis.

    "Ashton Agar is doing a really good job, and if you look at all the successful bowlers in T20 around the world, they're all spinners. Nine out of the top ten, I think, are spinners.

    “They've got a really well-balanced squad and have time to work out their ideal combination for the World Cup".

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    Tim Paine hasn’t ruled out this being his last summer as Australia captain, expressing a desire to play Test cricket for as long as he can but admitting that at “my age, that can change really quickly”.

    The wicketkeeper has been credited by Cricket Australia officials and by former greats such as Steve Waugh and Allan Border for the central role he has played getting the national team back on its feet after one of the most tumultuous periods in the game’s history in Australia.

    Sandpapergate won't be a factor among fans this Australian summer, unlike in the Ashes, Mark Taylor believes.

    With the Ashes retained, Paine now has his sights set on steering Australia towards an inaugural ICC World Test Championship title and the world No.1 ranking, beginning with home series against Pakistan and New Zealand.

    But he is realistic about his future ahead of the first Test against Pakistan, which starts at the Gabba on Thursday, conceding the possibility that this Test summer could be his last.

    “I haven’t given it a lot of thought. It might be,” said Paine, who turns 35 next month. “I’m not too sure. I haven’t looked at it that way at the moment. But I’m enjoying doing it. I feel good physically. I feel good mentally, so while that continues and I’m scoring enough runs and keeping well enough then I’d like to continue.

    “But I know when you get to my age that can change really quickly. I’m not going to look too far ahead. I’m really looking forward to this summer. Beyond that I haven’t looked too far. I’ll stop when I’m ready to stop, or when [head coach] Justin [Langer] and ‘Cracker’ [national selector Trevor Hohns] tell me that I am and when that time comes I am ready for it.”

    The Australian captaincy has been a hot topic since Steve Smith’s return to the side in England in the winter and questions began being asked about whether he could resume the role at a point in the future after his leadership ban expires in April.

    CA officials have largely danced around the issue to date, throwing their weight behind Paine, who is one senior figure who has supported the idea of Smith returning to the captaincy, saying he would be “fully supportive of it”. However, the governing body’s new executive general manager of national teams, Ben Oliver, told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age last week that discussions about a succession plan would start this summer.

    Paine himself has deliberately limited the amount of cricket he is playing in an effort to increase his longevity at Test level, swerving the limited-overs formats across all levels. He has played only three matches, in the Sheffield Shield for Tasmania, since the Ashes and it is no accident.

    “I want to play as much Test cricket as I can so it’s important for me that I’m really fresh mentally and physically because I know as soon as I hit the Test summer my workload from a cricket sense and an off-field sense goes through the roof,” he said.

    “That was one of the reasons why I missed a game for Tassie was to have a week at home and not because I was feeling tired or had injury concerns, it was me pre-empting what I know is coming up in the next few months and making sure that I can give my best to my game and myself and to my family and my team for this whole summer.

    “Our goal is to get back to that No.1 ranking and we want to win that Test championship. It’s an exciting period and I’m looking forward to being part of the start of that and there is no end point at the moment.”

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    Tim Paine has directed a hilarious sledge at New

    Zealand batsman Ross Taylor after he survived an lbw decision from a James Pattinson ball that looked plum.

    Late on day two at the MCG Taylor was given out, but upon review the ball was deemed to be going over the stumps.

    Paine was overheard on the stump microphone during Nathan Lyon’s first over giving it to Taylor over the lucky decision.

    “That’s twice I’ve seen him dead out plum and not given,” Paine said.

    “You see Broady hit him in the pad in New Zealand? It was absolutely hitting middle stump and it had missing leg.

    “He knows the bloke in the truck.”

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    Its embarrassing for a top team like Australia to have an ordinary temporary captain

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    The Kiwi who pioneered cricket's decision review system has offered on open invitation to Tim Paine to go and learn how the technology works after the Australian captain blasted the process during the Boxing Day test.

    Ian Taylor's company, Animation Research Ltd, operates Virtual Eye which is one of just two companies accredited to operate international cricket's ball-tracking system, along with Hawk Eye. Virtual Eye is being used at the Melbourne Cricket Ground for the Boxing Day test between Australia and New Zealand, and has come in the firing line of the Australian captain.

    Paine was irate at two decisions made using the technology on the second day of the test against the Black Caps, and at stumps on Friday said he felt the system was "a bit off."

    "I won't go into it too far because I'll get in trouble but I'm just seeing time and time again, what I see to the naked eye, or watching it on television in real time, and then what it comes up as, is sometimes a little bit off the mark," he told ABC Grandstand.

    There were two LBW decisions Paine was upset about – one which saw him dismissed after initially being ruled not out, and the other seeing Black Caps batsman Ross Taylor retain his wicket after being given out by the on field umpire.

    Ian Taylor, who was in Melbourne for the first two days of the test, told the Herald there was "no question" that either decision was correct. He said his company had invested in making the technology as accurate as possible and Paine was more than welcome to go and have a look at how they reached the decisions.

    "After he leaves he might still think he got a raw deal and that's helpful to us too because we get his input as well, but refusing or not bothering to come and have a look at how the decision was made that's what's really frustrating," Taylor said.

    "We've got to respect that these guys are really skilful out there and have been playing for ages, so he obviously believes he could see where it was going and this is a really good opportunity – this is what he saw, this is what we captured for real; does he see any discrepancies there now? Does he still think we got it wrong? He may, but what's really frustrating is he doesn't have any idea how much tech is behind the decision we made and how much care is taken to make sure it's right. This isn't instinct."

    Virtual Eye pioneered the DRS in a test in Sri Lanka in 2008, and it was officially launched by the International Cricket Council in a test match between New Zealand and Pakistan 2009. It has been used in one day internationals since 2011, and all ICC World Twenty20 tournaments since 2017.

    Taylor was vocal in his concerns that the technology wasn't where it needed to be when the ICC first adopted it, but his company has invested in the product since and has got it to a point where he can track a delivery millimetre by millimetre using four high-speed cameras which capture 200 images each of every delivery. In 2016, the ICC commissioned an independent study on the accuracy of the technology, which was tested by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

    There are rare occasions where the technology does not capture sufficient data for the team to make a call, and in those situations that is made clear and the final call is referred back to the umpire.

    In the Boxing Day test, the company launched a new speed tracker that is driven entirely by millimetre tracking of a ball travelling at over a 140kph that shows how much speed a ball loses before reaching the batsman, which wouldn't have been possible without their recent $1m tech upgrade.

    "When it was first introduced we argued the technology had to be a lot better than it was if you were actually going to be changing players' careers by decisions you make, and umpires' careers too. We've invested heavily, and last year we spent another $1m of our own money on the technology to take it to another level.

    "All people see when it gets on air is the red line with the blue prediction, but what goes in behind it is really quite remarkable … It sees way more than the human eye can possibly see; especially a wicketkeeper who is standing behind the batsman."

    The team running the DRS tries to be as open as possible about how their technology works and Taylor said they have extended invites to plenty of players and umpires to visit their cabin to look at the track of a decision they reached, but very few have taken up the offer.

    "We did offer to Tim Paine when he last complained but he didn't come, so we're offering the chance again."

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    Maybe Tim should take over the video of Satner being hit on the glove and given not out, I'm sure they could explain why its not out.

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    Australia Test skipper Tim Paine has his brand new car broken into early on Tuesday and his wallet was subsequently taken as well. According to a report, robbers broke into Paine’s car after he parked the vehicle on the street to make room for him to practice some shots in the garage. “I have actually just turned the garage into a bit of a home gym and I want to hang the (stocking) off the bit where the garage door opens,” Paine was quoted as saying by SEN Breakfast.

    “I figured if I can, I can work on my cover drive while I’m at it, but I’ve actually hit a bit of a snag today because I moved the car out onto the street only to wake up this morning to a text saying my credit card has been used.

    “I went outside and the car door was open and the wallet’s gone,” he added.

    Paine’s future as Australian Test captain is also in the air as Steve Smith’s leadership ban came to an end recently. Paine has done reasonably well as skipper but many see Smith as the perfect leader for this Australian team.

    Smith was stripped of the captaincy and banned from leading Australia for two years over his involvement in the 2018 ball tampering scandal in South Africa. His sentence ended Sunday and he can again captain Australia if called upon.

    The conclusion of Smith’s ban ends the period of upheaval in Australian cricket that followed the ball tampering incident in the second test at Cape Town in 2018 when Cameron Bancroft, with the knowledge of Smith and his vice-captain David Warner, used sandpaper to change the condition of the ball.

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    Australia Test captain Tim Paine says he would “fully support” Steve Smith if the former skipper were to lead the side again.

    Paine, 35, took over the captaincy in March 2018 after Smith was banned from international cricket for his part in the ball-tampering scandal in South Africa.

    Smith, 30, returned to the side as Australia retained the Ashes against England last summer and his two-year ban on leadership roles within the national side is now over.

    “He’s captain of the Rajasthan Royals in the IPL and Welsh Fire in The Hundred; it’s something he loves doing,” Paine said.

    "If Steve Smith decides that's the way he wants to go then I'd fully support him in trying to do so again."

    Since taking over the captaincy, Paine has won 10 Tests, with six losses and one draw. This includes the recent back-to-back whitewash wins at home, beating Pakistan 2-0 and New Zealand 3-0.

    Smith led the team for 36 Test matches between 2014 and 2018, with a record of 18 wins, 10 defeats and six draws.

    On his return to the team, he was named Australia’s player of the series in last year’s Ashes, scoring 774 runs at an average of 110.57.

    Paine also added that coach Justin Langer and the selectors are “developing a number of guys that we can choose from” for when the Test captaincy does become available again.

    He mentioned Travis Head and Pat Cummins, who are currently joint vice-captains, and batsman Marnus Labuschagne as possible candidates.

    Australia are scheduled to tour Bangladesh for a two-Test series in June, although Paine, who was speaking to journalists on a video call from his home in Hobart, conceded the tour could be cancelled or postponed because of the coronavirus outbreak.

    "You don't have to be Einstein to realise that it's probably unlikely, particularly in June,” he added.

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/52107942


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    Andrew Flintoff Wants Tim Paine Banned for 18-months for Soiling Pants

    Andrew Flintoff Wants Tim Paine Banned for 18-months for Soiling Pants

    The former England international has in fact jokingly suggested an 18-month ban on Tim Paine.

    IANS |May 11, 2020, 5:53 PM IST

    Australia Test skipper Tim Paine revealed a couple of days back that he soiled his pant during the fourth Ashes Test at Old Trafford last year and former England all-rounder Andrew Flintoff isn't impressed. The former England international has in fact jokingly suggested an 18-month ban on the Australian.

    "I'm just puzzled," the England legend said on talkSPORT breakfast. "How can you get away with that in whites?

    "That's disgusting, because you can go off the field for a wee. The umpire understands, if you need to go for that reason you need to go! You can have a situation where everyone's just going on the field!

    "I learned this when I was 11 years old and I was playing for Lancashire under-11s at Liverpool cricket club and I did not know you could leave the field. I stood at slip and I wet my pants not a number two!

    "But an adult, the captain of Australia, dropping one off in his pants in an Ashes Test match at Old Trafford? This is just not acceptable behaviour!

    "I can handle ball tampering, I can handle it, they got carried away, but this lad this is just disgusting, absolutely disgusting Tim Paine! I'm saying 18-month ban, ban him!"

    Speaking on the Keeping it Real podcast, Paine had said: "I was feeling a little bit ill and there were some big, dark clouds rolling in over the grandstand and we only had about seven overs left and obviously we needed that one wicket. (There were) No drinks breaks left, umpires starting to talk to each other about (bad) light.

    "I just had a horrible feeling that I needed to go to the toilet it was (a) number two and so I basically just thought, Righto, can't waste any time, I'm gonna have to (go)'. I remember saying to Davey Warner, I'm actually going to have to do this', and did."

    Link: https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/n...s-2615457.html

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    Only 2 FC centuries for him.

    Great story though after a surprise recall in the Ashes of 2017-18.

    An unlikely Captain taking over in troubled times and winning/retaining an Ashes series away from home. Also leading Aus to number 1.

    Made his Test debut in the same game as Azhar Ali and Steve Smith.

    Was also part of the World XI tour to Pak in 2017.


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