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    Despite a poor PSL, Ahmed Shehzad has been selected in the T20I team - Is it the right decision?

    As title says, I'm out of words that despite below par and extremely poor performances he is somehow able to secure a place in the team as opening batsman.

    He was the worst opener on show in PSL and even the stats would indicate that, But the question is how?

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    He is a “friend”

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    In PSL:

    10 matches
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    I think Shahzad has made it into this squad due to his ok performances against NZ last time around. But the PSL performances in which he displayed a refusal to take risks and think outside of the box must be causing major concern for the management. Their is a good chance in which he will score a decent 30 ball 40 or maybe a 45 ball 50 and secure his spot once again. But that will not change the fact that he isnt willing to compromise on his average of 25 and strike rate of 114 just to make it look like he is the only natural option


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    Ill tell you what would be a true test of his character and willingness to play hard for Pakistan...

    West Indies win the toss, bat first and score around 180-200. Only then will you see if this guy can surrender his ego for the sake of winning a match. Otherwise he will just carry on playing the way he does when chasing scores below 150 or batting first with players that are actually carrying him along


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    Absolute joke of a decision. He failed in the PSL so on what basis are you selecting him for a T20 series?

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    He is good against the new ball. Can see through the first few sessions without damage and lay the platform for lower order to accelerate.

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    He has been selected for which upcoming T20 series?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    He has been selected for which upcoming T20 series?
    Pakistan vs West Indies playing 3 T20's starting from Arpril 1st. And no its not a joke

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    If not Kamran then go with the existing combo, no local opener had a great PSL so as to kick Shezzy out unfortunately: (

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amirforpresident View Post
    Pakistan vs West Indies playing 3 T20's starting from Arpril 1st. And no its not a joke
    Has Akmal Sr. been selected?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    In PSL:

    10 matches
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    Pathetic returns.


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    T20 squad: Ahmed Shehzad, Fakhar Zaman, Babar Azam, Shoaib Malik, Asif Ali, Sarfraz Ahmed (capt & wk), Hussain Talat, Faheem Ashraf, Muhammad Nawaz, Shadab Khan, Mohammad Amir, Hasan Ali, Rahat Ali, Usman Khan, Shaheen Afridi


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    Nepotism ka chakkar hain kya, bhai? He shouldn't be playing for the Pak B side.


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    I can see the script already, manages to hang on vs WI, bashes Zimb, gets picked for Asia Cup, has a disaster vs India, gets dropped


    just drop him now
    Last edited by Abdullah719; 26th March 2018 at 17:10.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    In PSL:

    10 matches
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    He has been selected on the basis of his performance in the NZ series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msb314 View Post
    He has been selected on the basis of his performance in the NZ series.
    Which was extremely average?

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    Ahmed Shahzad, despite his silliness, is a viable prospect in ODI and Test cricket for Pakistan. Not sure about T20.

    From a non-Pakistani fan, among all the top order batsman that I see, he's one of the few with a decent technique who can play int'l level pace bowling. Lot of the other prospects are either too much on the hack end of the spectrum or the other extreme stolid blocker end.

    He aint great, but he's a viable prospect. If he gets rid of his entitlement, and is ready to work hard, Pakistan team should make use of him. Its not like there are so many quality batting options avaiable for the Pak team anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Which was extremely average?
    On easier pitches, it would have been extremely amazing


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    On easier pitches, it would have been extremely amazing
    Ah yes.

    Where do I find these pitches?

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    He was in horrible form in the PSL and looked totally out of sorts.

    Surprising selection.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Adijazz1706 View Post
    If not Kamran then go with the existing combo, no local opener had a great PSL so as to kick Shezzy out unfortunately: (
    Mukhtar Ahmed was one of the highest scorers in domestic t20 recently, if not him then Farhan should have been given a go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OoparCut View Post
    Ahmed Shahzad, despite his silliness, is a viable prospect in ODI and Test cricket for Pakistan. Not sure about T20.

    From a non-Pakistani fan, among all the top order batsman that I see, he's one of the few with a decent technique who can play int'l level pace bowling. Lot of the other prospects are either too much on the hack end of the spectrum or the other extreme stolid blocker end.

    He aint great, but he's a viable prospect. If he gets rid of his entitlement, and is ready to work hard, Pakistan team should make use of him. Its not like there are so many quality batting options avaiable for the Pak team anyway.
    Shehzad right now should only be considered for test selection as that has been his strongest format.

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    The way he gets selected in squads for no reason, he should go to Hollywood and try his hand at auditioning for big roles. Chances are he will get selected ahead of Leo, Tom Cruise, Matt Damon, etc.

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    Ahmed Shahzad and Shoaib Malik seem to find a way into the
    team with absolutely no performance. Malik performed so poorly
    against New Zealand but finds his way back into the team, even
    Hafeez performed better than him and he has been dropped.

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    Shehzad was a breath of fresh air in NZ. Azhar Ali struggled really badly and all the players were devoid of confidence after the whipping in the ODI series and the first T-20 massacre. He came in and played aggressively and Fakhar then got confidence as well. Can't drop him yet.

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    Shezzy the messiah.

    His 44 vs NZ saved him. Told you that Inzi will not be able to drop him after that knock.

    ONLY Mickey can keep him out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Shehzad was a breath of fresh air in NZ. Azhar Ali struggled really badly and all the players were devoid of confidence after the whipping in the ODI series and the first T-20 massacre. He came in and played aggressively and Fakhar then got confidence as well. Can't drop him yet.
    Shehzad supporter hanging on to his hopes by a thread.
    Last edited by DeadBall; 26th March 2018 at 22:02.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    Shehzad supporter hanging on to his hopes by a thread.
    Not a Shehzad supporter but will be fair and remind the context. That 44 was a breath of fresh air given that Pakistan always lost early wickets on that tour and how every batsman was scarred by that time. Azhar Ali with all his experience could not buy a run.
    Last edited by DeadBall; 26th March 2018 at 22:02.

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    Probably due to his better scores in recent T20Is

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    Probably due to his better scores in recent T20Is
    Yes his last 8 T20Is read 53,39,43,89,22,27,44,19.

    Mystery solved.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    In PSL:

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    It’s actually not that bad considering the wickets of PSL - Ul Haq has read it like -

    9 games, 9 Innings

    346 runs at
    38 average
    170 SR.......

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    I guess by the stats posted above by a few, Shehzad has had a good time in T20I in past year or so. So he has been selected in the squad. PSL identifies new talent but it is not a platform to drop people who are not in form. I do agree that Shehzad should not be part of Pakistan's T20 set but again he has the numbers.

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    Ahmed Shehzad must be supported. We must support the youth in Pakistan Cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Not a Shehzad supporter but will be fair and remind the context. That 44 was a breath of fresh air given that Pakistan always lost early wickets on that tour and how every batsman was scarred by that time. Azhar Ali with all his experience could not buy a run.
    Azhar Ali doesn't play T20's, and if I recall correctly, Umar Amin opened with Fakhar in the 1st T20. Shehzad came afterwards and let out his 44.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Not a Shehzad supporter but will be fair and remind the context. That 44 was a breath of fresh air given that Pakistan always lost early wickets on that tour and how every batsman was scarred by that time. Azhar Ali with all his experience could not buy a run.
    If you're not a Shehzad supporter then Ahmed Shehzad himself isn't a Shehzad supporter


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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Ahmed Shehzad must be supported. We must support the youth in Pakistan Cricket.
    Youth with a 9 year international career? Surely you are just trolling here?


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    Why is Shehzad not backed in tests like Babar even with his record far more decent than Babar ?

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    Shehzad is a good role model. Works hard on his fitness as well and has a better attitude towards the game in comparison to Umar Akmal. Must be supported

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Not a Shehzad supporter but will be fair and remind the context. That 44 was a breath of fresh air given that Pakistan always lost early wickets on that tour and how every batsman was scarred by that time. Azhar Ali with all his experience could not buy a run.
    Yeah that 44 would have been a 120 on any other pitch.... a real black mamba that our mujahid conquered out there in the uncharted territories of kiwi land. I say it wasn't just a breath of fresh air, it was a tornado.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WengerOut View Post
    Why is Shehzad not backed in tests like Babar even with his record far more decent than Babar ?

    Because he averages low 20s outside UAE despite not having played any test in England, Aus or SA.

    His runs in test cricket usually come when Pak has put 500+ scores and everyone has scored.

    And besides in recent tests he played he he is showing why he is so poor with low scores


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    Seriously guys, there's no reason to justify his selection, not even his recent T20I stats. He looked completely lost and lacked confidence, almost as if he was playing his first game.
    Not to forget, this guy has been in the international cricket set up for almost 9 years.
    If still he cant figure out how he wants to play, then nothing will change in the future.
    People who say he is young, so what? Just because he's young, doesnt mean we should stick with him. If age secures you a place then Umar Akmal should be in the team also.


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    Every Shehzad supporter is talking about the 'best ever 44 runs innings' in NZ. Pathetic.
    Shows our standards. No other team in the world would see that as even a decent innings.
    He isnt international material. He isnt capable of going over a SR of 120 from the start.
    His usual innings are something like this: 1(9) or 12(8) and then end up with 40(38) with 20 dot balls.
    Shehzad always peforms well against WI, BD and Zim. He's rubbish against top sides.
    Give Shahibzada Farhan a chance at least.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    He was in horrible form in the PSL and looked totally out of sorts.

    Surprising selection.
    Why paakpassion don't ask Inzamam reason behind his selection?

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    No.

    His average is extremely misleading, it's hugely propped up by weaker teams. Take out associate nations, Zimbabwe, world XI, Bangladesh (scored against them when they were weaker than they are now, plus Bangladesh aren't a good T20 side really, it's only ODIs where they've been good, I mean ranking wise they're below Afghanistan). You get an average of 18 SR of around 100.

    I don't rate world XI either, low pressure matches against makeshift teams in home conditions. A world XI just isn't going to compete at the same standard as a seasoned team. I'd argue the PSL teams would be better.

    He didn't have a great T20 tour against New Zealand. He got one 40 at a Sr of 130. While the rest of the batsmen in the side were scoring at a SR of over 170. And scored 50s/40s too (Fakhar and Babar 50, Sarfraz 40).


    Shehzad should get a chance at tests or at least be part of the test squad, he has a good record there and while he's been slow in ODIs in the past, he's shown ability to tough it out e.g. ODIs in SA. I don't know about outside Asia, but at least in Asia I think he'd perform which is more than what our recent openers have been doing (bar Azhar). Not sure he's in the greatest form atm so many now right now, but when he recovers it, he probably should be inducted into the test squad.

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    As posted in the other thread:

    Players can be selected on PSL performances but cant be dropped when they have performed ok at international level.

    Ahmad Shahzad's last 8 T20I innings:
    19, 44, 27, 22, 89, 43, 39, 53,
    Total= 336 runs in 8 inns

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    He’s always gonna blow hot and cold. Too inconsistent. Pakistan needs to open with Babar and Fakhar and instead play someone else in the middle order. Either Haris Sohail or Hafeez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    As posted in the other thread:

    Players can be selected on PSL performances but cant be dropped when they have performed ok at international level.

    Ahmad Shahzad's last 8 T20I innings:
    19, 44, 27, 22, 89, 43, 39, 53,
    Total= 336 runs in 8 inns
    /thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    As posted in the other thread:

    Players can be selected on PSL performances but cant be dropped when they have performed ok at international level.

    Ahmad Shahzad's last 8 T20I innings:
    19, 44, 27, 22, 89, 43, 39, 53,
    Total= 336 runs in 8 inns
    Umar Amin was dropped despite doing better than Shehzad in the last few T20is, but he had a very average PSL mainly due to not getting enough consistent chances. False logic to defend a ghatiya player like Shehzad.


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    Reading the posts above I feel there is a sense of some people wanting him to fail so they can turn around and say I told you so.

    He has been selected whether you like it or not, why not back him and show him the support as fans we should be doing. :/

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    Ahmad Shahzad’s last 10 T20 International scores;
    19
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    89
    43
    39
    53
    4
    14

    Scored 354 runs with an Average of 35.40 & Strike Rate 120.81

    Hard to argue with numbers - even if I do feel his place belongs to a new player.

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    Shahzad is not the problem in my opinion, Shahzad and Babar batting together is.

    Only one of them can survive in the t20 team and right now it is Babar.

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    Tbf to Shehzad (bear in mind I dislike him just as much as the next guy) he done okay in the last series and it's not that common to be dropped internationally based on domestic performances. But they should at least be consistent, as I'm assuming Aamer Yamin was dropped for an average PSL which is a bit of a double standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by On_the_up View Post
    Yes his last 8 T20Is read 53,39,43,89,22,27,44,19.

    Mystery solved.
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    Probably due to his better scores in recent T20Is
    Quote Originally Posted by giri26 View Post
    I guess by the stats posted above by a few, Shehzad has had a good time in T20I in past year or so. So he has been selected in the squad. PSL identifies new talent but it is not a platform to drop people who are not in form. I do agree that Shehzad should not be part of Pakistan's T20 set but again he has the numbers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    As posted in the other thread:

    Players can be selected on PSL performances but cant be dropped when they have performed ok at international level.

    Ahmad Shahzad's last 8 T20I innings:
    19, 44, 27, 22, 89, 43, 39, 53,
    Total= 336 runs in 8 inns
    Quote Originally Posted by Corridor of Uncertainty View Post
    Ahmad Shahzad’s last 10 T20 International scores;
    19
    44
    27
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    43
    39
    53
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    14

    Scored 354 runs with an Average of 35.40 & Strike Rate 120.81

    Hard to argue with numbers - even if I do feel his place belongs to a new player.
    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    Tbf to Shehzad (bear in mind I dislike him just as much as the next guy) he done okay in the last series and it's not that common to be dropped internationally based on domestic performances. But they should at least be consistent, as I'm assuming Aamer Yamin was dropped for an average PSL which is a bit of a double standards.
    So if a player has been in poor form in international cricket and then has a great PSL, it's ok for him to be recalled.

    But then if if the reverse is true, it's not ok to drop him?

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    It's torture watching Shehzad bat against half decent bowling and fielding attacks. It's been proven over and over again that he just can't rotate strike and needs to hit out get some runs. If he's not improved or realised his potential in near enough nine years, can't see him starting now.

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    If this T20 team is to do well then Ahmed Shehzad, Babar Azam, Shoaib Malik, Safaraz can not be playing all together. You need players with the ability to play +140 SR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by On_the_up View Post
    Yes his last 8 T20Is read 53,39,43,89,22,27,44,19.

    Mystery solved.
    You might want to check the strike rate in some of those innings.

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    Who does Shehzad know to keep getting picked for the national team?

    Shades of Imran Farhat here, another domestic bully who had contacts but was nowhere near good enough for international cricket.

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    Wrong decision in my opinion. Coming off a poor PSL, not sure why he should be considered ahead of others who have performed.


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    Criticism aside ... Shehzad going to make some decent scores against the mighty West Indies and secure his place for the next series.

    He's following Hafeez career. Be prepared to see him for the next 10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post



    Average of 33 and SR of 120 with a 50 every five games are not bad numbers at all, especially when you consider that he played a few of those in NZ against NZ.

    Not the best selection but not an awful one either. It's always best to give a player one chances too many than one too few. At least Kamran Akmal was not brought back which is a relief.

    1) Ahmed Shehzad
    2) Fakhar Zaman
    3) Babar Azam
    4) Hussain Talat
    5) Shoaib Malik
    6) Sarfaraz Ahmed
    7) Asif Ali
    8) Faheem Ashraf
    9) Shadab Khan
    10) Hasan Ali
    11) Mohammad Amir

    12) Shaheen Shah Afridi
    13) Usman Khan
    14) Mohammad Nawaz
    15) Rahat Ali

    Apart from Rahat Ali, which is honestly a very surprising selection to me but I did not watch any of the PSL so not sure how he did, the squad is a pretty good one and has no TTFs.

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    Imagine this scenario. Chasing 190, Fakhar gets out in the first over. You have Shezzy and Babar batting in the PP overs. That should tell you how bad the selection was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhony View Post
    Imagine this scenario. Chasing 190, Fakhar gets out in the first over. You have Shezzy and Babar batting in the PP overs. That should tell you how bad the selection was.
    Babar is 10x the batsman Shehzad is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shokz1408 View Post
    Wrong decision in my opinion. Coming off a poor PSL, not sure why he should be considered ahead of others who have performed.
    If he's doing decently in international games, why should the PSL matter? Besides, Shehzad is a far better choice than Kamran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Babar is 10x the batsman Shehzad is.
    Yes but he needs his time to settle. PP overs are very crucial in T20s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    If he's doing decently in international games, why should the PSL matter? Besides, Shehzad is a far better choice than Kamran.
    That's his current form, average of 19 in 10 matches. Could have given a youngster a go in the opening slot. PSL does matter hence youngsters have been selected for the windies tour based on PSL performances.

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    Its a pathetic decision.

    I would personally prefer even kamran Akmal instead.

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    Strong performances in the PSL were used to bring him back to the team after doing poorly in international cricket.

    What's wrong with the reverse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotham Cronie View Post
    So if a player has been in poor form in international cricket and then has a great PSL, it's ok for him to be recalled.

    But then if if the reverse is true, it's not ok to drop him?
    PSL/IPL sort of leagues are there to identify players for the national team and not to discard the existing players. If someone was in great form at the international level and goes missing in a T20 league, the teams will still continue to pick them. If someone like Jasprit Bumrah has a poor IPL, do you think he will be dropped for India's future assignments? Just saying that PCB wants to give Shehzad enough chances due to his good T20I form recently, that's about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Babar is 10x the batsman Shehzad is.
    Ten times zero is still zero.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    In PSL:

    10 matches
    173 runs
    average 19
    strike-rate 85

    My goodness ! Shame this performance of Shehzad didn't let Kamran in !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotham Cronie View Post
    So if a player has been in poor form in international cricket and then has a great PSL, it's ok for him to be recalled.

    But then if if the reverse is true, it's not ok to drop him?
    Not saying it's not ok, just that it's not as common for players to be dropped internationally based on bad domestic performances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotham Cronie View Post
    So if a player has been in poor form in international cricket and then has a great PSL, it's ok for him to be recalled.

    But then if if the reverse is true, it's not ok to drop him?
    I get Ahmed Shehzad evokes the most extreme of emotions.

    But he did well in NZ. His stats are decent. He was part of a winning national squad (in fact he added some much needed resolve at the top of the order after a long run of disastrous results.) He is hard to drop at the moment - PSL or not.

    If he fails next series or performs selfishly, Inzamam can easily make the call.

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    Another game,another failure

    14(12)

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    14 off 12 when your team scores 200.

    Something not right there.



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    Well i think this torture will end next year with the return of Sharjeel Khan. Cant wait to see both him and Fakhar at the top

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arham_PakFan View Post
    Another game,another failure

    14(12)
    Saw off the new ball and laid the foundation. Shezzy is the real MVP


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    Shezzy boy is there to blunt the new ball and tire the opposition bowlers out so that middle-order can capitalize. What a legend!!!

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    I really don't like wishing players from my beloved Pakistan fail but Ahmed Shehzad is different. If he fails tomorrow, hopefully he can be dropped and won't be on the plane to Zimbabwe for the tri-series.


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