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11th April 2018, 03:26 #81
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Asia Cup 2018 moved from India to UAE on Pakistan's request
The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) on Tuesday accepted Pakistan's reservations against playing in India and decided to move the Asia Cup 2018 to United Arab Emirates.
https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www.d...ws/amp/1400762
Which one is right
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11th April 2018, 04:18 #82
It's actually good for India. BCCI will host Asia cup in UAE so, will get 100 of revenue.
Pakistan will have to share emerging cup with Srilanka, so it will get 50% revenue (but PCB hosting a tournament in Pak will show that Pak is safe, other teams might agree to play in Pak in future)
It's a win win for both.
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11th April 2018, 04:41 #83
As someone living in the UAE myself, it will be interesting to see the turnout for Team India's return to the Gulf. Always had a massive Indian population. UAE has had the IPL in the past, but the national team is a different matter altogether.
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11th April 2018, 04:45 #84
Looking forward to this tournament. This time around we will have a decent squad unlike in 2016. Should be fun.
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11th April 2018, 04:57 #85
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The ACC chief spoke to Sportstar, minutes after the council’s meeting on Tuesday, to explain why the change in venue was necessary.
What forced the Asian Cricket Council to shift the Asia Cup from India to the UAE?
No Asian tournament is complete without the participation of India and Pakistan.
So, is India-Pakistan tension the only reason behind the decision?
Under the prevailing circumstances, the ACC considered this to be the best third country option.
http://www.sportstarlive.com/cricket...le23494654.ece
Conflicting reports, they could have handled this in a professional manner.
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11th April 2018, 05:19 #86
Very good. All the Asian countries will play in UAE for Asia cup (though not the best place for cricket) and ind & bd will play in SL and other countries will play in Pak in Emerging Cup.
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11th April 2018, 05:50 #87
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Unlike Pakistani expats in the UAE, Indian and Bangladeshi expats here have rarely been lucky to see their national team in action.
One point is the ticket allocation. Will India get a disproportionate number of tickets allocated as proxy hosts ?
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11th April 2018, 06:54 #88
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11th April 2018, 06:58 #89
" The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) was keen to host the Asia Cup between September 13 and 28 but the Indian government has put a spanner in the board's plan. The government has categorically told the BCCI in writing on Monday that the Asia Cup could be held in a neutral venue but not in the country."
https://m.timesofindia.com/sports/cr...w/63700890.cms
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11th April 2018, 07:58 #90
I am not sure why people are arguing over this - surely India and Pak playing is a good thing?
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11th April 2018, 08:16 #91
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What is the format? 2 groups of 3 teams with Super 4 stage or a single round robin league?
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11th April 2018, 08:49 #92
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So BCCI can influence the Indian Government when required, completely contradicting their age-old excuse of "not being granted permission by GOI."
As for Pakistanis not being welcome in India, the Asia Cup has been moved to the UAE because we don't want to go to India.
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11th April 2018, 09:20 #93
Getting a visa for someone is not equal to getting permission to play a bilateral series.
Asia Cup was moved because Indian govt didnt get permission to host Pakistan. Else bcci had hosted Asia cup without Pakistan in 1990 when bcci hardly had much power and other asian teams were minnows. Compare that to now, bcci is the power in cricket and SL BD and Afg are test nations.
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11th April 2018, 09:25 #94
So now Indian Government didn't get permission to host Pakistan? Who controls the Indian government then? Hmmmm.
Folks, the fact of the matter is simple, Sethi has more clout than BCCI. He raised his concerned, Pakistani players are not safe in India, and BCCI moved the tournament to a venue that was once on a banned list for corruption.
If there ever was a moment to epitomise the phrase - hitting 2 birds with one stone - this is it!
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11th April 2018, 09:31 #95
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11th April 2018, 09:39 #96
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11th April 2018, 09:45 #97
One thing is good that it's 50 over tournament unlike the mickey mouse tournament in 2016.
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11th April 2018, 09:46 #98
How can you possibly ignore the concerns of a champions trophy holder. We are like the Brazil of cricket not some minnow. Sethi finally allows us to deliver our message in a coherent professional manner unlike the buffons before him.
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11th April 2018, 10:15 #99
Here's what you posted in post #93. You should read the tripe you post.
Asia Cup was moved because Indian govt didnt get permission to host Pakistan.
You are just upset that BCCI/GOI got busted by Sethi.
Few individuals significantly alter the course of history. Fewer still modify the map of the world. Hardly anyone can be credited with creating a nation-state. Mohammad Ali Jinnah did all three.
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11th April 2018, 10:19 #100
If only Sethi had that clout he would get bcci to play a bilateral series.
Here is my post. Read carefully
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The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) was keen to host the Asia Cup between September 13 and 28 but the Indian government has put a spanner in the board's plan. The government has categorically told the BCCI in writing on Monday that the Asia Cup could be held in a neutral venue but not in the country.
It is also given to understand that the government has no problems if the Indian team plays Pakistan in away from home ICC events and quadrilateral events. But the Indian government isn't ready to welcome the Pakistan cricket team on Indian soil.
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https://m.timesofindia.com/sports/cr...w/63700890.cms
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If only pcb protests or beggings had any affect on bcci. Poor pcb.Last edited by cricketjoshila; 11th April 2018 at 10:21.
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11th April 2018, 10:25 #101
No you read your post #93 carefully.
So at least you now admit Sethi has more clout than BCCI, thus you have shifted your weak point towards a bilateral series.
Let me tell you how much clout Sethi has, he got BCCI to play a tournament at a venue once banned by BCCI/GOI. BCCI is a weak board, doesn't have the bottle to even reject playing Pakistan at all levels. Not only did BCCI try to prevent Pakistan from playing in India for the Asia Cup, bachare moved the tournament for the sake of Pakistan to the temporary home of Pakistan cricket!
Let this sink in.
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11th April 2018, 10:26 #102
I know defeat tastes bitter but its okay to accept it sometimes @cricketjoshila
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11th April 2018, 10:34 #103
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11th April 2018, 10:36 #104
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11th April 2018, 10:44 #105
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We need to shift the focus towards cricket now - shall we?
Selection of venue is done and dusted, now it’s about cricket. 3 of the 4 semi finalist of last CT (& the WC in Asia) will be there and this is going to be hell of a tournament- kante ki mukabila. If the wickets are good, this tournament will be as competitive and entertaining as the CT.
I think, instead of killing the tournament, ACC has come to best possible solution and I won’t be surprised to discover that Crown Prince was instigated to enter and offer an acceptable point for everyone; otherwise the only outcome was to defer both tournaments.
I hope possible best XV is available for every team and 8 months before WC, wickets & outfield of UAE doesn’t disgust us.
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11th April 2018, 10:49 #106
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11th April 2018, 10:55 #107
Malik might be very important for Pakistan’s Asia Cup campaign
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11th April 2018, 10:56 #108
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Albeit, very small victory but biggest loss for BCCI. It is not small loss that stings BCCI but among the first loss can be become habitual. Good job, PCB, showing BCCI as it is.
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11th April 2018, 11:01 #109
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11th April 2018, 11:01 #110
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11th April 2018, 11:03 #111
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11th April 2018, 11:21 #112
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Can we just stop with the arguing for god's sake? Too much negativity because of this meaningless pak-india bashing. Juse be happy that we will get to see more Pak-India matches.
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11th April 2018, 11:29 #113
Pakistan v India at Sharjah please!
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11th April 2018, 11:36 #114
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11th April 2018, 11:38 #115
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Dawn which actually has an agreement with TOI to share news ignored this and reported Sethi's version. Sethi in his first interview was with sportsstar in which he didn't gave any direct answers but replied in a professional manner.
Last edited by Rishikesh; 11th April 2018 at 11:39.
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11th April 2018, 11:43 #116
People aren't realising the gravity of the situation. Pcb has finally managed to prove the fact in from of the whole world that India is indeed unsafe for Pakistan to play there.
Therefore, there is a strong possibility that India will lose the hosting right of all the upcoming icc tournament matches involving Pakistan.
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11th April 2018, 12:02 #117
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11th April 2018, 12:07 #118
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11th April 2018, 12:09 #119
How is Indian govt not giving permission to Pakistanis to visit a proof of PCB doing anything?
Did SL lose hosting rights to 1996 WC when WI and Aus refused to go there?
Did Zim lose hosting rights of 2003 WC?
ICC tournaments will be hosted by India, with or without Pakistan.
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11th April 2018, 12:31 #120
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11th April 2018, 12:40 #121
100% Spot on.
The deeper dive message here is that India, governed by right-wing nationalism, is not safe for Pakistani players. Too many threats from RSS and Shiv Sena likes. So if BCCI are dying for a match with Pakistan, then play else where, and Sethi pulled a rabbit out of a hat. Plus ICC are looking to shift the next CT from India anyway.
Yesterday pictures of 100s of mobs trying to gatecrash an IPL match should serve as a reminder for those who believe India is 100% safe. So much so next year's IPL will shift to another international venue due to safety concerns during elections.
Sehti has single-handedly forced BCCI to play in UAE, and get this, he probably got the prince to send a letter to the BCCI! BCCI fell for it, made them feel special, and are now playing at a venue which according to them was on a ban list. Sethi knows which strings to pull and which buttons to press.
Sethi is a genius.
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11th April 2018, 13:33 #122
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11th April 2018, 16:56 #123
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11th April 2018, 19:06 #124
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12th April 2018, 04:54 #126
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12th April 2018, 04:57 #127
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14th April 2018, 06:56 #129
Thank god that someone at last has realised the point I was trying to make.
Point is, I m not the citizen of either of these countries, so I can see things from a neutral's perspective. As a neutral I can safely say that BCCI has lost a major battle here. It got played by cunning sethi who has skillfully managed to portray India as an unsafe place for Pakistan to make a visit.
India's reputation in world cricket has just got tarnished.
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14th April 2018, 07:13 #130
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I understand the point you are making. But the key question is, will this make a difference on other teams touring India? Are teams going start requesting a venue change? If not, then this whole incident does not make a difference.
Pakistan player safety issue in India is/was a known issue. Nothing new. I am sure even the BCCI would be happy about this as it would have been a big headache for them in terms of security provision.
Just like you, I am not a citizen of either country and am coming from a neutral perspective. I personally do not think that this has changed the views of anyone. I believe that teams will continue to tour India without any fear.