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    US, allies launch strikes on Syria (Reactions from US/UK/Russia)

    US and allies launch strikes on Syria chemical weapons sites
    President Donald Trump says he has approved US military strikes against Syrian chemical weapons sites, in collaboration with the UK and France.

    The strikes are in response to an alleged chemical attack on the Syrian town of Douma last week.

    "A combined operation with the armed forces of France and the United Kingdom is now underway," President Trump said in an address to the nation.

    Explosions were reported near the Syrian capital Damascus.

    UK Prime Minister Theresa May confirmed British involvement, saying there was "no practicable alternative to the use of force".

    But she also said the strikes were not about "regime change".
    The strikes were ordered "on targets associated with the chemical weapons capabilities" of the Syrian government, Mr Trump said.

    The US president said the purpose was "to establish a strong deterrent against the production, spread and use of chemical weapons".

    "These are not the actions of a man, they are the crimes of a monster instead," he said of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

    Syria has denied carrying out the attack and its ally, Russia, warned that Western military strikes would risk starting a war.
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    James Comey's book is going to release soon..hence the strike...

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    Start of World War 3 now. Russia won't take this lying down even though in reality the American's and Russian's really want to control the Middle East. Can't imagine how it feels to be an Arab these days who are being killed by everyone. This is gonna reach Saudi and UAE as well.


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    Wow, how do US Prez keep hiding behind wars is remarkable and UK keeps joining them absolute disaster of allies.


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    In response to the airstrikes Russia says there will be consequences.
    https://www.rt.com/news/424094-syria...ences-antonov/

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    Macron said that Assad had crossed the red line, well maybe so, but now we have as well. Essentially the ball is in Russia’s court, it depends whether they wash their hands of Syria or stick by them.

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    U.S. launches missile strikes in Syria

    President Trump ordered a military attack against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad on Friday, joining allies Britain and France in launching missile strikes in retaliation for what Western nations said was the deliberate gassing of Syrian civilians.

    The coordinated strike marked the second time in a little over a year that Trump has used force against Assad, who U.S. officials believe has continued to test the West’s willingness to accept gruesome chemical attacks.

    Trump, speaking from the White House late Friday, said the attack last weekend was “a significant escalation” of Assad’s use of chemical weapons and warranted a stepped-up international response.

    The alleged chemical weapons use was not the work of “a man,” Trump said. It was “the crimes of a monster instead.”

    Trump said the mandate for an allied attack was open-ended, but Pentagon chiefs later said the strikes Friday would be repeated only if Assad took further action that warranted a response.

    Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Joseph F. Dunford Jr. held a briefing after the launch of a military strike against Syria. (The Washington Post)

    Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr., chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the U.S. military, in conjunction with British and French forces, struck three sites — a scientific research center near Damascus, a chemical weapons storage facility near Homs and a storage facility and command post also near Homs.

    Dunford said that unlike the unilateral U.S. strike in Syria last year, in which only one site was attacked, the United States worked with two allies and hit the three sites in an operation that he said would result in the long-term degradation of Syria’s ability to research, develop and deploy chemical weapons.

    The attack involved munitions fired from aircraft and naval vessels, including about 100 Tomahawk cruise missiles, according to a Defense Department official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss operational details. The Pentagon also employed the B-1 strategic bomber.

    The assault came despite the lack of a definitive independent finding that chemical weapons were used or who had deployed them. An initial team of inspectors had only arrived in Syria on Friday.

    Defense Secretary Jim Mattis declined to say whether he thought the attack would prevent Assad from using chemical weapons again.

    “Nothing is certain in these kinds of matters. However, we used a little over double the number of weapons this year than we used last year,” he said. “It was done on targets that we believed were selected to hurt the chemical weapons program. We confined it to the chemical weapons-type targets.”


    Mattis said that to his knowledge there were no U.S. or allied losses from the strikes Friday.

    Dunford said that the only communications that took place between the United States and Russia before the operation were “the normal deconfliction of the airspace, the procedures that are in place for all of our operations in Syria.”


    The Russian ambassador to the United States, Anatoly Antonov, warned that “such actions will not be left without consequences. All responsibility for them rests with Washington, London and Paris.”

    It was not immediately clear how the Syrian military responded to the attack. Dunford said that Syrian forces fired surface-to-air missiles but that he did not have a full picture of the response. He said the Pentagon would provide more details Saturday.

    British Prime Minister Theresa May issued a statement saying the attacks were a response to “circumstances of pure horror.”

    In a statement, French President Emmanuel Macron said, “Our response has been limited to the Syrian regimes facilities enabling the production and deployment of chemical weapons.”

    Vice President Pence left the opening ceremony of the Summit of the Americas in Lima, Peru, to place calls to all four congressional leaders in advance of the airstrikes, speaking directly to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.), and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.); a spokesman for Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said that he was also notified just prior to Trump’s statement.

    The assault followed repeated threats of military action from Trump, who has been moved by civilian suffering to set aside his concerns about foreign military conflicts, since the reported chemical attack that killed civilians in a rebel-held town outside Damascus last weekend.

    The operation capped nearly a week of debate in which Pentagon leaders voiced concerns that an attack could pull the United States into Syria’s civil war and trigger a dangerous conflict with Assad ally Russia — without necessarily halting chemical attacks.

    Both Syria and Russia have denied involvement in the attack, which Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov alleged had been staged.

    The episode is the latest illustration of the hazards arising from a conflict that has killed an estimated half-million people and drawn in world powers since it began as peaceful protests in 2011.

    The attack raised the possibility of retaliation by Russia or Iran, which also provides military support to Assad, threatening in particular to increase the risks facing a force of 2,000 Americans in Syria as part of the battle against the Islamic State. While the United States has not been at war with the Syrian government, U.S. troops often operate in proximity to Iranian- or Russian-backed groups.

    In the wake of last weekend’s gruesome attack, some U.S. officials advocated a larger, and therefore riskier, strike than the limited action Trump ordered in April 2017, also in response to suspected chemical weapons use.

    That attack involved 59 Tomahawk missiles fired from two U.S. warships in the Mediterranean Sea. It fulfilled Trump’s vow that chemical weapons are a “red line” that he, unlike his predecessor Barack Obama, would not allow Assad to cross. But the airfield targeted by the Pentagon resumed operations shortly after the attack and, according to Western intelligence assessments, chemical attacks resumed.

    Assad’s defiance presented Trump with a choice of whether to make a larger statement and incur a larger risk this time. Planning for these strikes focused on ways to curb Assad’s ability to use such weapons again.

    Risks of the renewed attack include the possibility of a dangerous escalation with Russia, whose decision to send its military to Syria in 2015 reversed the course of the war in Assad’s favor. Since then, Russia has used Syria as a testing ground for some of its most sophisticated weaponry.

    Since last year’s strike, multiple chemical attacks have been reported in opposition areas, most of them involving chlorine rather than the nerve agent sarin, as was used in 2017, suggesting the government may have adjusted its tactics.

    Earlier Friday, Nikki Haley, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, accused Russia of lying and covering up for the Assad government, which had used chemical weapons at least 50 times in the past seven years of warfare, Haley claimed.

    “Russia can complain all it wants about fake news, but no one is buying its lies and its coverups,” she said. “Russia was supposed to guarantee Assad would not use chemical weapons, and Russia did the opposite.”

    Russia had called for the emergency U.N. Security Council meeting on Syria as military action seemed likely.

    Russia’s U.N. ambassador, Vassily Nebenzia, had accused the United States, France and Britain of saber-rattling.

    “Why are you seeking to plunge the Middle East into such difficulties, provoking one conflict after another, pitting one state against another?” he said at the United Nations in New York on Friday, claiming that anti-government militias had received “instructions” to begin an offensive as soon as an act of force begins. “Is the latest wave of chaos being unleashed only for the sake of that?”

    Russia is Assad’s most powerful ally and has deployed thousands of troops and military advisers, as well as air defense systems, in Syria.

    Russia’s military threatened to shoot down any U.S. missiles that put Russian lives at risk. Russia could also fire at the launch platforms used — potentially U.S. planes or ships. Russian officials had said U.S. and Russian military staffs remained in contact regarding Syria, even as Russian media carried stories in recent days about the potential outbreak of “World War III” as a consequence of a U.S. airstrike against Assad.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin warned Macron in a phone call Friday that the situation remained tense, the Kremlin said in a statement.

    “Most important, it is imperative to avoid badly planned and dangerous actions that would be crude violations of the U.N. Charter and would have unpredictable consequences,” the Kremlin said. “Both leaders directed the ministers of defense and foreign affairs to maintain close contact with the goal of de-escalating the situation.”

    U.N. Secretary General António Guterres told the Security Council that he feared events could escalate rapidly into a regional and even global conflict, and he urged all states “to act responsibly in these dangerous circumstances.”

    Britain’s U.N. ambassador, Karen Pierce, noted that May’s cabinet had “agreed on the need to take action to alleviate humanitarian distress and to deter the further use of chemical weapons by the Assad regime.”

    Announcement of that approval Thursday did not specify that the response should be military, although that was the expectation.

    “We will continue to work with our friends and allies to coordinate an international response to that end,” Pierce said Friday.

    Opposition lawmakers urged May to first seek Parliament’s consent before committing to any military action. Nothing requires that May do so, but the convention is for British lawmakers to be given a chance to vote. Parliament is in recess but could be recalled for an emergency session.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.5df9c5ed92d5
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    Playground for the so called superpowers.. Sad that human life has no value seems like we are still in the barbaric age just that weapons have evolved

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    So basically everyone believes lives of Syrians don’t matter.. Be it Russia or Iran or usa or Uk.. Even posters here seem to think that way..

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    Teresa May is addressing the media..frothing at the mouth..full of lies...they love war.

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    Four RAF Tornados joined with US and French forces to carry out airstrikes in Syria early on Saturday as Theresa May said that there was no alternative to military action.

    The prime minister said that the “co-ordinated and targeted strikes” were taken against the Syrian regime’s chemical weapons capability. The British fighters fired Storm Shadow missiles at a former missile base near Homs where the Ministry of Defence said it assessed that Bashar al-Assad regime has stockpiled precursors to chemical weapons.

    On Saturday morning defence secretary Gavin Williamson said that the attack had been “highly successful” and that the Tornado crews had returned safely. Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, he added: “We’ve been working to make sure the targeting and the strikes have an enormous effect. It’s our belief the action we’ve taken has degraded their ability to act in the future.”

    In the early hours of the morning, after a finalphone call with French president Emmanuel Macron, May delivered a video statement saying the UK would act with American and French allies to deter the use of chemical weapons in Syria.

    “This is the first time as prime minister that I have had to take the decision to commit our armed forces in combat – and it is not a decision I have taken lightly,” she said.

    “I have done so because I judge this action to be in Britain’s national interest. We cannot allow the use of chemical weapons to become normalised – within Syria, on the streets of the UK, or anywhere else in our world. We would have preferred an alternative path. But on this occasion there is none.”

    Her statement came minutes after Donald Trump spoke to reporters in Washington, who called the chemical attack “crimes of a monster” and said US strikes would hit precision strikes on targets associated with chemical weapons capabilities.

    Later the Ministry of Defence said British forces had joined a “precision strike on Syrian installations involved in the regime’s use of chemical weapons against its own people” at 2am on Saturday morning.

    In a statement, the MoD said it had undertaken a careful scientific analysis to minimise the risk of contamination to the area around the facility outside Homs and said the target was well away from any civilian population.

    Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson called the action decisive and said that it was taken “with legal and proportionate military force.” He added: “Let these united actions send a clear message to the regime – the use of chemical weapons is categorically unacceptable and you will be held to account.”


    Syria: US, UK and France launch airstrikes in response to chemical attack
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    In her statement May said the regime of President Bashar Assad had a history of using chemical weapons against its own people “in the most cruel and abhorrent way.” British action would be limited to deterring the use of those weapons, she said.

    Her announcement came after days of diplomacy with the US and France, following the attack in Douma, outside Damascus, last Saturday where a chemical weapons attack killed up to 75 people. May said people had died, including young children, “in circumstances of pure horror” but said the attack should not have come as a surprise.

    “A significant body of information including intelligence indicates the Syrian Regime is responsible for this latest attack,” she said. “This persistent pattern of behaviour must be stopped – not just to protect innocent people in Syria from the horrific deaths and casualties caused by chemical weapons but also because we cannot allow the erosion of the international norm that prevents the use of these weapons.”

    May’s argument in her statement announcing that action had commenced mirrors the one she made in her opening address to her cabinet on Thursday, saying she had been convinced that the normalisation of chemical weapons could not be allowed to stand.

    “We have sought to use every possible diplomatic channel to achieve this,” she said in the early hours of Saturday morning. “But our efforts have been repeatedly thwarted. Even this week the Russians vetoed a resolution at the UN Security Council which would have established an independent investigation into the Douma attack. So there is no practicable alternative to the use of force to degrade and deter the use of chemical weapons by the Syrian Regime.”

    May said the UK’s involvement in military action would be limited to deterring the use of chemical warfare. “This is not about intervening in a civil war. It is not about regime change,” she said. “It is about a limited and targeted strike that does not further escalate tensions in the region and that does everything possible to prevent civilian casualties.”

    “At this time, my thoughts are with our brave British servicemen and women – and our French and American partners – who are carrying out their duty with the greatest professionalism,” she said. “The speed with which we are acting is essential in co-operating with our partners to alleviate further humanitarian suffering and to maintain the vital security of our operations.”

    The prime minister is likely to face severe criticism from opposition MPs and members of her own party that MPs have not been given a vote in parliament on extending UK military action in Syria, but appears to be prepared to face down any condemnation.

    It will be argued that under royal prerogative May is not required to seek the permission of MPs, and under the convention that emerged after the Iraq war, she may also act alone in some circumstances, including to preserve the operational security but also to prevent humanitarian catastrophe.

    Earlier on Friday, Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said May should not act without parliament’s approval and not before a UN investigation. “I want to know who did it. If there is proof the regime did it, they must be held responsible. If there’s a proof anybody else did it, they must be held responsible,” he said in an interview with Sky News.

    Corbyn denied that it was pointless, given Russia’s record, to continue to call for UN investigations. “Anything that brings a cessation of the use of chemical weapons moves us nearer, if not totally, to a ceasefire and a reopening of the Geneva talks which has got to be the right way forward.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...al-weapons-raf


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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    Macron said that Assad had crossed the red line, well maybe so, but now we have as well. Essentially the ball is in Russia’s court, it depends whether they wash their hands of Syria or stick by them.
    Russia is all talk, nothing more than that. Its ambassadors constantly kept threatening that they would give a fitting reply if US dares to attack Syria.

    But when the real attack started they went into hiding like a cat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    Macron said that Assad had crossed the red line, well maybe so, but now we have as well. Essentially the ball is in Russia’s court, it depends whether they wash their hands of Syria or stick by them.
    James, it is now so obviously a conspiracy.

    I’m sure even Robert will see it for what it is...

    Russians carefully worded statement about defending their troops on the ground. Trump and May showing strength.. it’s all a complete scam...

    It’s so obvious now that I don’t think it can even be called a conspiracy

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakLFC View Post
    Start of World War 3 now. Russia won't take this lying down even though in reality the American's and Russian's really want to control the Middle East. Can't imagine how it feels to be an Arab these days who are being killed by everyone. This is gonna reach Saudi and UAE as well.

    Three words.

    Golden Shower Fetish

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    Quote Originally Posted by siddharth View Post
    James Comey's book is going to release soon..hence the strike...
    I would add that Trump wants to make it appear that he isn't a creature of Putin.

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    Former head of British Armed Forces gets cut off by Sky when he goes off-script on Syria!



    @Robert @KingKhanWC @James

    UK media is fair right? The Zionist agenda continues! Cutting off the former head of the British Armed Forces because he did not fit the narrative and was talking sense!


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    Quote Originally Posted by RainMan_ View Post
    Russia is all talk, nothing more than that. Its ambassadors constantly kept threatening that they would give a fitting reply if US dares to attack Syria.

    But when the real attack started they went into hiding like a cat.
    Russia won't do anything directly. They have the biggest nation on earth with half the GDP of the UK. They can't risk direct confrontation.

    Their forté is propaganda, destabilising opponents from within by formenting dissent, assymetrical warfare to nibble off bits of other countries, cyberattacks and so forth.

    I think this USA-UK-FR action is less about protecting Syrian civilians from gas bombs and more about putting Putin back in his box. Which is no bad thing, in my view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R3verse Swing View Post
    Former head of British Armed Forces gets cut off by Sky when he goes off-script on Syria!


    @Robert @KingKhanWC @James

    UK media is fair right?
    I would argue that winning a war is not a good reason for not using WMD. Assad got away with it before so I guess he thinks he might as well use them again and finish the war quicker - see the USA at the end of WW2. They were winning hands down and still deployed nukes.

    Poor journalism by Sky nonetheless. I never listen to Murdoch news and give the British Brexit Corporation less and less time. I mainly listen to Channel 4 News now.

    Podcasts by James O'Brien are good - some decent investigative journalism there.

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    Few individuals significantly alter the course of history. Fewer still modify the map of the world. Hardly anyone can be credited with creating a nation-state. Mohammad Ali Jinnah did all three.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Russia won't do anything directly. They have the biggest nation on earth with half the GDP of the UK. They can't risk direct confrontation.

    Their forté is propaganda, destabilising opponents from within by formenting dissent, assymetrical warfare to nibble off bits of other countries, cyberattacks and so forth.

    I think this USA-UK-FR action is less about protecting Syrian civilians from gas bombs and more about putting Putin back in his box. Which is no bad thing, in my view.

    Are you for serious? No bad thing? So to teach Putin a lesson you are ok with bombing Syria and innocent Syrians dying? Tomorrow if those Syrians attack UK and your family dies will you still say the same thing?

    Innocent Syrians lives is being used as a playground and you are supporting that.. Shameful really..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    I would argue that winning a war is not a good reason for not using WMD. Assad got away with it before so I guess he thinks he might as well use them again and finish the war quicker - see the USA at the end of WW2. They were winning hands down and still deployed nukes.

    Poor journalism by Sky nonetheless. I never listen to Murdoch news and give the British Brexit Corporation less and less time. I mainly listen to Channel 4 News now.

    Podcasts by James O'Brien are good - some decent investigative journalism there.
    How can you be so blinded?

    Why is Assad going to use chemical weapons, kill a handful of people, just when the US is willing to pull troops out of the country? And why has Assad gone from being a well educated, calm, development minded leader to someone who is hell bent on killing his own population ?All the while sending his soldiers off to fight ISIS and various other American mercenary groups?

    Engage logic a little bit. If Assad is winning, as its been stated by several sources, why would he invite further strikes from far more powerful nations? Does he has a death wish?

    To add to all of that, can you show me the evidence that A - chemical weapons were used and B - who used them?

    Just look at the hypocrisy of our ally the US, in their lists of demands they want Syria to allow OPCW investigators to enter the country....yet Assad already said last week he was ready to let the UN body in and investigate.

    This is Afghanistan all over again, when the US kept stating the Taliban would not give Osama Bin Laden over to the authorities, yet their spokesperson, like on US tv stated they were happy to hand off to a common ally, such as Saudi Arabia, as long as Colin Powell let them see the huge file of evidence he seemed to carry everywhere with him.

    Can your memory really be this short?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    I would argue that winning a war is not a good reason for not using WMD. Assad got away with it before so I guess he thinks he might as well use them again and finish the war quicker - see the USA at the end of WW2. They were winning hands down and still deployed nukes.

    Poor journalism by Sky nonetheless. I never listen to Murdoch news and give the British Brexit Corporation less and less time. I mainly listen to Channel 4 News now.

    Podcasts by James O'Brien are good - some decent investigative journalism there.
    USA dropped nukes just to test their weapon. WW2 was already done and dusted in Europe by the time USA dropped their nukes.

    The point of the video however is not poor journalism, it's the fact that Sky have a pro war agenda. So next time when we point the finger at RT for fuelling propaganda, we need not look any further than our own news channels. They are all the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Russia won't do anything directly. They have the biggest nation on earth with half the GDP of the UK. They can't risk direct confrontation.

    Their forté is propaganda, destabilising opponents from within by formenting dissent, assymetrical warfare to nibble off bits of other countries, cyberattacks and so forth.

    I think this USA-UK-FR action is less about protecting Syrian civilians from gas bombs and more about putting Putin back in his box. Which is no bad thing, in my view.
    GDP is irrelevant. You think an economy prevents nations from going to war?

    UK doesn't have enough money to put police on the streets, feed the poor, house families, but we some how have money to wage war in other countries!?


    Few individuals significantly alter the course of history. Fewer still modify the map of the world. Hardly anyone can be credited with creating a nation-state. Mohammad Ali Jinnah did all three.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R3verse Swing View Post
    GDP is irrelevant. You think an economy prevents nations from going to war?

    UK doesn't have enough money to put police on the streets, feed the poor, house families, but we some how have money to wage war in other countries!?
    Mrs May has the magic money tree when she needs to kill people.

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    Russia has condemned US, UK and French strikes against targets in Syria over the alleged use of chemical weapons, as the Western allies argued they were essential to deter the future use of illegal munitions.

    The strikes hit three sites -- one in Damascus and two in Homs -- which US President Donald Trump said were "associated with the chemical weapon capabilities of Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad."

    The action followed a week of threats of retaliation for an alleged chemical weapons attack on civilians in Douma, outside Damascus, where Syrian forces have long been battling rebels.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin called the missile strikes an "act of aggression against a sovereign state" and said they were against the United Nations' charter.

    Russia -- a key ally of the Assad government -- is calling for an immediate UN Security Council meeting to discuss the "aggressive actions" of the United States and its allies, he said.

    Latest developments

    German Chancellor Angela Merkel said she supported the military action.

    UK Prime Minister Theresa May said the military action was believed to have been successful.

    French Minister for the Armed Forces Florence Parly said all French aircraft had returned safely from their mission.

    Syria's Foreign Ministry condemned the airstrikes as a "flagrant violation of the international law."

    Three civilians were wounded in Homs after "several" missiles were intercepted by Syrian air defense systems, Syrian state TV said.
    Syria's Foreign Ministry called on the international community "to strongly condemn this aggression," warning it would "pose a threat to international peace and security as a whole," in a statement published by the state-run Syrian Arab News Agency.

    Earlier, the office of the Syrian Presidency tweeted a video of Bashar al-Assad going to work Saturday, with the caption "a morning of steadfastness."

    Danny Makki, a British-born Syrian journalist in Damascus, told CNN his whole neighborhood had been woken by the strikes near the capital. "You could tell straight away that this wasn't your average Damascus night-time battle. It was something far bigger," he said.
    In a televised address announcing the action, Trump said he had decided to take action because last weekend's action by Assad "was a significant attack against his own people," and "not the actions of a man, they are crimes of a monster instead."

    Trump said the purpose of the campaign was to "establish a strong deterrent against the production, spread and use of chemical weapons."

    Gen. Joseph Dunford, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters at a Pentagon briefing that the first allied strike targeted a scientific research center in greater Damascus involved in the development and production of chemical weapons.

    The second site targeted was a chemical weapons storage facility west of Homs, while the third was a chemical equipment storage facility and important command post.

    The strikes -- the strongest concerted action yet by Western forces in Syria -- were launched at 9 p.m. ET, as most of Europe and the Middle East was shrouded in darkness.

    The Syrian Armed Forces said in a statement that 110 missiles were fired on Syrian targets and that the country's defense systems "intercepted most of the missiles, but some hit targets including the Research Center in Barzeh."

    Three civilians were wounded in Homs after "several" missiles were intercepted by Syrian air defense systems, Syrian state TV said.
    Russian state news agency TASS reported that none of the missiles fired by the three western nations struck areas near its naval and air bases in Syria. Those bases come under the protection of Russian air defense units.

    A meeting of the North Atlantic Council will be held Saturday afternoon, a NATO official told CNN. France, the United Kingdom and the United States will brief allies on actions taken in Syria, the official said.

    Theresa May: 'Not about regime change'

    In a televised statement Saturday, UK Prime Minister Theresa May said UK forces had undertaken a "limited and targeted strike" and that there had been "no practicable alternative to the use of force to degrade and deter the use of chemical weapons by the Syrian regime."

    While a full assessment has not yet been completed, "we believe that the action was successful," she said. "This was not about interfering in a civil war. And it was not about regime change."

    While insisting that the military action was a direct consequence of the alleged chemical weapons attack in Douma, May also alluded to the use of a nerve agent in the English city of Salisbury. "We cannot allow the use of chemical weapons to become normalized -- within Syria, on the streets of the UK, or anywhere else in our world," she said. Britain says Russia is behind the Salisbury poisoning, a charge Moscow denies.

    Experts from the international chemical weapons watchdog, the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, were en route to the alleged chemical weapons attack site in Douma before the joint military strike was launched.

    Russia's Ministry of Defense said it believed the action by the US, UK and France was not in retaliation to the alleged chemical attack in Douma but instead was a reaction to the "success" of the Syrian army in liberating its territory from rebels.

    International reaction

    Turkey, an important player in the Syrian conflict, said it viewed the airstrikes as "an appropriate response" to the Douma attack.
    "We welcome this operation which has eased humanity's conscience in the face of the attack in Douma, largely suspected to have been carried out by the regime," Turkey's Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

    Merkel said all available evidence pointed to the Assad regime being responsible for the Douma attack and criticized Russia for blocking an independent investigation through the UN Security Council.

    "The military operation was necessary and appropriate to preserve the effectiveness of the international ban on the use of chemical weapons and to warn the Syrian regime of further violations," she said in a statement voicing support for the joint US, UK and French action.

    Australia's defense minister issued a statement in support of the strikes, calling them "a calibrated, proportionate and targeted response."

    An Israeli official told CNN that the strikes enforced the red line drawn by President Trump last year. "Syria continues to engage in and provide a base for murderous actions, including those of Iran, that put its territory, its forces and its leadership at risk," the official said.

    However, Iran -- another key ally of the Assad government -- condemned the strikes. "The attack is the blatant violation of international laws, as well as ignoring the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Syria," Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Bahram Qasemi said according to Iranian state media.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/14/p...ntl/index.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by R3verse Swing View Post
    USA dropped nukes just to test their weapon. WW2 was already done and dusted in Europe by the time USA dropped their nukes.

    The point of the video however is not poor journalism, it's the fact that Sky have a pro war agenda. So next time when we point the finger at RT for fuelling propaganda, we need not look any further than our own news channels. They are all the same.
    The USA dropped the nuclear weapons because they had taken massive casualties on Okinawa and were expecting to lose a million soldiers invading the Japanese main islands. So deploying WMD saved lives and shortened the war. So I think Assad has good reason for using WMD if he thinks he can get away with it.

    But they aren't all the same - C4 News would have let the General talk. I heard his points raised on BBC R4 by other people.

    The difference between British and Russian TV is that British journalists have editorial bias but know they can criticise their government. Russian journalists know they will be murdered if they criticise the Kremlin line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barah_admi View Post
    How can you be so blinded?

    Why is Assad going to use chemical weapons, kill a handful of people, just when the US is willing to pull troops out of the country? And why has Assad gone from being a well educated, calm, development minded leader to someone who is hell bent on killing his own population ?All the while sending his soldiers off to fight ISIS and various other American mercenary groups?

    Engage logic a little bit. If Assad is winning, as its been stated by several sources, why would he invite further strikes from far more powerful nations? Does he has a death wish?

    Can your memory really be this short?
    Because he got away with it in 2013. Obama drew a line, Assad crossed it and Obama did nothing. So Assad did it again.

    Can your memory really be that short?

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    Really disappointed, I thought more action would be taken so finally we could see what Russia and Iran are hiding under their sleeve but I guess this was just another show put on by DJT. Nothing will happen, status quo will continue I don't think Russia and US want to go to war over Syria and they would rather continue to butcher innocents civilians instead.

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    I wonder if the new Triple Entente of Theresa MacTrump did this bombing to test the waters, and given Russia’s weak response / non-response then more severe action will now be to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_gamer007 View Post
    So basically everyone believes lives of Syrians don’t matter.. Be it Russia or Iran or usa or Uk.. Even posters here seem to think that way..
    We can believe or think what we like, the reality is they don't. I would have thought the last few years with so many countries involved in bombing the bejeezus out of the country would have made that pretty evident.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Russia won't do anything directly. They have the biggest nation on earth with half the GDP of the UK. They can't risk direct confrontation.

    Their forté is propaganda, destabilising opponents from within by formenting dissent, assymetrical warfare to nibble off bits of other countries, cyberattacks and so forth.

    I think this USA-UK-FR action is less about protecting Syrian civilians from gas bombs and more about putting Putin back in his box. Which is no bad thing, in my view.
    I agree, Russia won't risk direct confrontation, they know that the western allies combined will be too strong for that, but I don't think Putin will be put back in his box. Russia will continue to tighten their stranglehold in the east where they have regional advantage and their own long standing allies, and they will find other ways to strike back at western interests. There is too much at stake for them to allow the US a free hand.


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    Here's the proof that Chemical weapons was used.

    Make your own mind up!

    https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/co...-douma-eastern


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    We can believe or think what we like, the reality is they don't. I would have thought the last few years with so many countries involved in bombing the bejeezus out of the country would have made that pretty evident.


    Sad really seems humans as a race haven’t evolved one bit.. Even here you see a sensible poster like Robert justifying bombing of Syria and letting innocents die just to teach Putin a lesson..

    Oh well one can only hope and pray the world becomes a better place to live for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    I agree, Russia won't risk direct confrontation, they know that the western allies combined will be too strong for that, but I don't think Putin will be put back in his box. Russia will continue to tighten their stranglehold in the east where they have regional advantage and their own long standing allies, and they will find other ways to strike back at western interests. There is too much at stake for them to allow the US a free hand.
    Magnitsky Act sanctions on oligarchs will increase now.

    But Western government officials including our own are so compromised by Russian money that blackmail is no doubt an option for the Kremlin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_gamer007 View Post
    Sad really seems humans as a race haven’t evolved one bit.. Even here you see a sensible poster like Robert justifying bombing of Syria and letting innocents die just to teach Putin a lesson..
    No you didn't.

    I have been against this attack all along.

    I merely wonder what the motivation is.

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    Let me remind you of this fact again folks:

    Fourteen States Parties have declared chemical weapons production facilities. Who attacked Syria this morning? USA, UK, and France.

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    China
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    India
    Iran
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    Japan
    Libya
    Russia
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemic...ons_Convention


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    The strikes were a lot more limited than what many people anticipated. The missile strikes on Shayrat did much more to hurt the regime than these symbolic strikes.
    Syrian state media claims that most of the missiles were shot down. https://sana.sy/en/?p=134238

    As far the civilian casualties:







    And the usual propoganda:

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...n-bombs-syria/
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...hern-damascus/

    Pro Regime source tries to link the usual ISIS attacks in South Damascus with the strikes. It claims
    The Islamic State (ISIS) took advantage of the U.S. Coalition’s latest attack to launch a powerful offensive inside the southern part of Damascus, a Syrian military source told Al-Masdar this morning.

    According to the military source, the Islamic State began their assault by storming the Syrian Army’s positions along the western axis of the Al-Qadam District.
    But as I said in a post made on March 20th in the Middle East crisis thread, ISIS captured parts of Al-Qadam district last month. So if the Regime tries to link ISIS’ presence in Al-Qadam district with the strikes, its most likely non sense.
    Quote Originally Posted by Saeed View Post
    ISIS captured parts of Al-Qadam district in Damascus(thanks to Regime and its allies for ignoring this pocket for so long)after the Rebels withdrew from it and Regime moved in.
    Few hours later Al-Masdar claims that the brave SAA fought off the usual hit and run attacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big_gamer007 View Post
    Sad really seems humans as a race haven’t evolved one bit.. Even here you see a sensible poster like Robert justifying bombing of Syria and letting innocents die just to teach Putin a lesson..

    Oh well one can only hope and pray the world becomes a better place to live for everyone.
    Not in my lifetime, I'm just glad I live on this side of the power struggle. Resources are always going to be fought over, whether that's oil, gold or water. No doubt the major players on both sides will continue to use propaganda and scare stories to justify their fight for the lion's share, those who are in the firing line will have to be considered acceptable collateral damage. It sounds horrific, but it is in fact the reality right now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by R3verse Swing View Post
    Former head of British Armed Forces gets cut off by Sky when he goes off-script on Syria!


    @Robert @KingKhanWC @James

    UK media is fair right? The Zionist agenda continues! Cutting off the former head of the British Armed Forces because he did not fit the narrative and was talking sense!
    Its got to the point when the Zionist media gives a narrative, the opposite is true.

    The Ex army official was only speaking the truth, Assad has pretty much won this war and was clearing out this town, he had no motive to use chemical weapons.

    The air strikes have been a farce apart from endangering lives and causing mental damage to the residents who see missiles flying over their heads.

    Most have been shot down and those which hit didn't destroy anything of significance. May has taken a big risk for nothing, let's not forget this evil woman also voted for Iraq war.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    Its got to the point when the Zionist media gives a narrative, the opposite is true.

    The Ex army official was only speaking the truth, Assad has pretty much won this war and was clearing out this town, he had no motive to use chemical weapons.

    The air strikes have been a farce apart from endangering lives and causing mental damage to the residents who see missiles flying over their heads.

    Most have been shot down and those which hit didn't destroy anything of significance. May has taken a big risk for nothing, let's not forget this evil woman also voted for Iraq war.
    Lol.That's the story Putin is trying to sell to the rest of the world to save his face. He made all sorts of tall claims, no wonder he's desperate now.


    US used state of the art tomahawk cruise missile. Do u honestly believe that ancient Syrian air defence had the capability to intercept them?

    Fact is, Russia has just got badly exposed in front of the whole world. First they vetoed against an independent inquiry, made all sorts ridiculous claim and then got badly pounded by NATO but didn't dare to make any response. Russia's status as a global superpower and a reliable ally has just took a nosedive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Russia won't do anything directly. They have the biggest nation on earth with half the GDP of the UK. They can't risk direct confrontation.

    Their forté is propaganda, destabilising opponents from within by formenting dissent, assymetrical warfare to nibble off bits of other countries, cyberattacks and so forth.

    I think this USA-UK-FR action is less about protecting Syrian civilians from gas bombs and more about putting Putin back in his box. Which is no bad thing, in my view.
    Spot on as usual.

    Even technologically, Russia is way inferior to USA. Then add the fact that right now Russia has no reliable and powerful ally in the world who will give them a company in a war.

    Russia can't even take US alone and here on Syria he was against NATO-the the mightiest military organisation in the world.

    No wonder Russia didn't dare to do anything against the barrage of missiles. Because Putin knew very well what would've happened had he acted differently.

    As u rightly said, US-UK-FRA has very little concern for Syrian civilians. They just used the gas bomb incident to humiliate Putin in front of the whole world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Because he got away with it in 2013. Obama drew a line, Assad crossed it and Obama did nothing. So Assad did it again.

    Can your memory really be that short?
    Who did he use chemical weapons against? Where is the evidence? Who investigated it? And if he did use them in 2013 what evidence tells you he used them now? And why do you think the US, UK and allies who have killed millions across the globe just this century are ant better?

    You never answer any of the questions I put to you, consistently show intellectual dishonesty and never challenge your own ignorance of events.

    It is remarkable yet sadly reorentative of most brits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RainMan_ View Post
    Lol.That's the story Putin is trying to sell to the rest of the world to save his face. He made all sorts of tall claims, no wonder he's desperate now.


    US used state of the art tomahawk cruise missile. Do u honestly believe that ancient Syrian air defence had the capability to intercept them?

    Fact is, Russia has just got badly exposed in front of the whole world. First they vetoed against an independent inquiry, made all sorts ridiculous claim and then got badly pounded by NATO but didn't dare to make any response. Russia's status as a global superpower and a reliable ally has just took a nosedive.
    You missed the video showing their missiles being intercepted. I dont think you understand military capability esp what types of anti missiles systems Syria has in place. Y

    Russia didn't get hit at and neither did Syria, these strikes were a desperate response to defeat in Syria by Nato whose terrorists failed. They will probably go and attack America now.


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    How is it ok for nation's that are not even close to Syria to bomb that country, mind boggling to say the least.

    Even the progressive media somehow manages to keep the narrative of their govns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaDed View Post
    How is it ok for nation's that are not even close to Syria to bomb that country, mind boggling to say the least.

    Even the progressive media somehow manages to keep the narrative of their govns.
    Those are the best countries to bomb from a dispassionate point of view. Different looking people with strange customs makes it a lot easier as well. The main thing is always to build up their leaders as evil incarnate and a threat to the world, and to be fair, Assad's regime has proven to be pretty ruthless down the years. Will the bombing make any difference to the lives of the people living there? No, but at least we get to show Russia who the big boys really are so they understand not to mess with us.


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