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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendInzi View Post
    I don't answer on imaginations.
    I take it that you dont accept he is spy bit ironically the Inds have.
    http://www.india.com/news/india/raw-...ption-1063063/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Its sad that you are more loyal to a crook than you are to PK.
    I know where my loyalties lay, and as easily I can also claim to be more patriotic than you...don't need your judgments.

    Start appreciating difference of opinion. Not everyone who differs from you or the Army is against Pakistan or a traitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendInzi View Post
    I know where my loyalties lay, and as easily I can also claim to be more patriotic than you...don't need your judgments.

    Start appreciating difference of opinion. Not everyone who differs from you or the Army is against Pakistan or a traitor.
    Yes we can also tell where you loyalties lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendInzi View Post
    I don't answer on imaginations.
    Apparently you don't answer to facts either such as Nawaz's daylight robbery and amassing wealth abroad.


    If Nawaz is good for the country why didn't he build a single hospital in his three terms as PM where his own wife could be treated. Another imagination and sazish by deep state right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendInzi View Post
    I know where my loyalties lay, and as easily I can also claim to be more patriotic than you...don't need your judgments.

    Start appreciating difference of opinion. Not everyone who differs from you or the Army is against Pakistan or a traitor.
    Difffering from the army does not make a traitor, but failure to speak up against an enemy spy does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Difffering from the army does not make a traitor, but failure to speak up against an enemy spy does.
    Don't need your definitions on who is or who is not a traitor/patriot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendInzi View Post
    Don't need your definitions on who is or who is not a traitor/patriot!
    Nobody needs definitions for traitors- we can spot them from miles off. They even deny stuff about Indian Spies that even the Indians admit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendInzi View Post
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    Surprise, surprise...this is what the entire Dawn Leaks was all about. And you know then how our military got sensitive and threw their toys out of the pram.
    You are aware that Dawn Leaks episode took place in 2016, more than three years after coming to power. It was also at a time when he was facing pressure on account of Panama leaks. His every action points to blackmailing tactics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Nobody needs definitions for traitors- we can spot them from miles off. They even deny stuff about Indian Spies that even the Indians admit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by www787 View Post
    There is absolute no proof that jhadav was abducted and their is absolute no proof he was tortured. If you have it then provide other wise you’re wasting everyone’s time and data.
    Why was Yadav denied consular access?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendInzi View Post
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    Do you believe that Yadav is not a spy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Do you believe that Yadav is not a spy?
    Are spies and terrorists the same? Every country has spies in every country. That doesnot equate to terrorism.

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    Lil bro shobaz trying his best to do some fire fighting




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    oh boy according to maryam now this is also a deep state ki saazish to malign their own image by creating this story against them


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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Are spies and terrorists the same? Every country has spies in every country. That doesnot equate to terrorism.
    A spy collects information, a terrorist kills/ helps to kill innocent people. Yadav is both

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    Man i am loving it Nawaz supporters attacking lil bro shobaz


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    "I have observed Nawaz Sharif very keenly. He is not in his senses. He cannot connect words if he is without notes. I am afraid when he speaks to media without notes. He can say anything," a close aide of NS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    A spy collects information, a terrorist kills/ helps to kill innocent people. Yadav is both
    A spy is a spy, A terrorist is a terrorist.

    They are not the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    A spy is a spy, A terrorist is a terrorist.

    They are not the same.
    Why cant they be both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mian View Post
    "I have observed Nawaz Sharif very keenly. He is not in his senses. He cannot connect words if he is without notes. I am afraid when he speaks to media without notes. He can say anything," a close aide of NS.
    When you tell lies everytime you speak, it does become very difficult to remember you own lies to avoid contradicting yourself.

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    You know your time is up when even your biggest lifafa refuse to defend you anymore


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    Why this hue and cry? Pakistan accepted the fact that 26/11 was planned in Pakistan way back in 2009.

    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/a....co/sROuDiUzo9

    Here is Reuters article from 2009.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Why this hue and cry? Pakistan accepted the fact that 26/11 was planned in Pakistan way back in 2009.

    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/a....co/sROuDiUzo9

    Here is Reuters article from 2009.
    He used very poor choice of words in this interview.

    Out of context it Indian media is claiming Pakistan was complicit in the attack.

    That is not the official narrative, and I dont think that is what Nawaz is trying to say either.

    Using words like "How can we allow this to happen" makes it sound like the government knew the bombay attack was going to happen and allowed it. When he probably meant, this should not be allowed to happen in the future and steps should be taken to curb this sort of behavior.

    But poor choice of words, on top of his bura waqt domestically is causing this hue and cry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mian View Post
    You know your time is up when even your biggest lifafa refuse to defend you anymore

    This would be the equivalent of Fox news turning on Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Why cant they be both.
    You gave the defination of both above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackanhyellow View Post
    He used very poor choice of words in this interview.

    Out of context it Indian media is claiming Pakistan was complicit in the attack.

    That is not the official narrative, and I dont think that is what Nawaz is trying to say either.

    Using words like "How can we allow this to happen" makes it sound like the government knew the bombay attack was going to happen and allowed it. When he probably meant, this should not be allowed to happen in the future and steps should be taken to curb this sort of behavior.

    But poor choice of words, on top of his bura waqt domestically is causing this hue and cry.
    Wasnt it the responsibility of Pakistan govt to stop the planning funding and training in 26/11?

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    Patwaris never disappoint thats why translation is a must for them




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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Wasnt it the responsibility of Pakistan govt to stop the planning funding and training in 26/11?
    It is. That is not the point, failure to meet the responsibility is not complicity in the action. Nawaz's words taken out of context were used by Indian media to show complicity. That is why people are mad at Nawaz for giving an irresponsible interview.

    Its also Indian government's responsibility to protect its country from attacks, it failed that responsibility during the mumbai attacks as well. Doesnt mean Indian government is complicit. Now imagine Modi gives an interview where instead of the Indian national narrative of how Pakistan is the bad guy, he says "We should take responsibility for the mumbai attacks, our military and police were unable to stop the attacks before they happened". Imagine how Indian public would react.

    Words matter, the way you convey your point matters, if you are a former leader of a country.

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    This traitor needs to realize that the punishment for treachery in our constitution is death by hanging without compromise. Inshallah that will be his fate.


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    This is why I completely support Indian government stance against anything related to Pakistan. If anything they need to take even more harsh steps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    This traitor needs to realize that the punishment for treachery in our constitution is death by hanging without compromise. Inshallah that will be his fate.
    I am sure Ex President and Army head Musharraf also was hanged without compromising, as he made similar statement once on live broadcast, saying pakistan ran proxy war and send militants across LOC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sachin136 View Post
    Please explain the irony. India is a well functioning country that doesn't promote terrorism or insurgency in other countries.
    Yes, Yadav came here to ask for Mariyam's rishta?


    140 characters from Lala's keyboard, it’s as if he’s launched 140 nuclear missiles on India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balthazar View Post
    This is why I completely support Indian government stance against anything related to Pakistan. If anything they need to take even more harsh steps.
    And that also justifies India sending Kalbhushans to kill innocent people, this is why we Ajit Doval says we will be using offensive defense against Pakistan and use tensions in places like Balochistan to keep them busy there and this is why your PM proudly takes credit for sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan with creation of Bangladesh??

    Indians are so innocent and only respond to Pakistani aggression otherwise they are just peace loving doves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermoine Green View Post
    Yes, Yadav came here to ask for Mariyam's rishta?
    Let Pakistan prove the charges in ICJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waseem View Post
    And that also justifies India sending Kalbhushans to kill innocent people, this is why we Ajit Doval says we will be using offensive defense against Pakistan and use tensions in places like Balochistan to keep them busy there and this is why your PM proudly takes credit for sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan with creation of Bangladesh??

    Indians are so innocent and only respond to Pakistani aggression otherwise they are just peace loving doves
    Creation of Bangladesh was terrorism? It was a declared war that Pakistan lost.

    Doval talked about possible retaliation in case Pakistan tries to do another Mumbai in future.Not today.

    Jadhav's case is in the ICJ. Let pakistan prove its case there.

    Yes we only respond to Pakistani aggression. Thats the truth and thats why hardly anyone believes in the Pakistsni narrative on India.

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    Please when addressing India can everyone remember to include the word “shinning”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermoine Green View Post
    Yes, Yadav came here to ask for Mariyam's rishta?
    The person in question is in your custody, all the so called evidences are with your country. All you need to do is prove it at ICJ.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    The person in question is in your custody, all the so called evidences are with your country. All you need to do is prove it at ICJ.
    Why the ICJ? Do the Americans or the Russians prove anything at the ICJ? The guy is guilty as the day is long.

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    A meeting of the National Security Committee (NSC), the country’s top civil-military body, was held on Monday to discuss the situation arising out of the recent remarks of PML-N supreme leader Nawaz Sharif about the 2008 Mumbai attacks.

    "The meeting reviewed the recent statement in the context of Mumbai attacks, as it appeared in the Daily Dawn of 12th May 2018, and unanimously termed this statement as incorrect and misleading," said a statement issued after the meeting.

    "The participants observed that it was very unfortunate that the opinion arising out of either misconceptions or grievances was being presented in disregard of concrete facts and realities. The participants unanimously rejected the allegations and condemned the fallacious assertions."

    According to the handout, it was recalled during the meeting that the delay in conclusion of Mumbai attack case was caused by India, not Pakistan.

    "Besides many other refusals during the investigation, the denial of access to the principal accused, Ajmal Qasab, and his extraordinarily hurried execution became the core impediment in the finalisation of the trial."

    Meanwhile, Pakistan continues to await cooperation from India regarding the arrest of Indian spy Kulbhushan Jadhav and the Samjhota Express attack, the statement said.

    "The National Security Committee resolved that Pakistan shall continue to play its due role in fighting the war against terrorism at all fronts," it concluded.

    Following the meeting, Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi met Sharif, who earlier in the day during a chat with reporters read excerpts from his interview to Dawn and dispelled the notion that the comments were falsely attributed to him. "Will speak the truth come what may," he said. "What did I say that was wrong in the interview?"

    Presided over by Prime Minister Abbasi, the NSC meeting was attended by Defence and Foreign Minister Khurram Dastgir, Finance Minister Miftah Ismail, Foreign Secretary Tehmina Janjua, National Security Adviser (NSA) Retired Lt General Nasser Khan Janjua, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee Gen Zubair Hayat, the director generals of Inter-Services Intelligence and Military Intelligence, and the three services chiefs.

    The convening of the meeting was announced by the military's media wing on Sunday evening.

    “(The) NSC meeting suggested to (the) prime minister to discuss recent misleading media statement regarding Bombay (Mumbai) incident. Being held tomorrow (Monday) morning,” Director General of the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor had shared through his official account on Twitter.

    Political analysts believe that these latest developments indicate further aggravation in the already tense civil-military relationship at a time when elections are just a couple of months away, Dawn reported. They believe that the announcement by the ISPR chief through social media indicates that the military authorities have decided to seriously take up the issue and that they want Prime Minister Abbasi’s stance over the matter.

    In an exclusive interview to Dawn published on Saturday, Sharif while speaking on matters related to the country’s foreign policy had stated: “Militant organisations are active. Call them non-state actors, should we allow them to cross the border and kill 150 people in Mumbai? Explain it to me. Why can’t we complete the trial?” He was referring to the Mumbai attacks-related trial proceedings which have stalled in the Rawalpindi anti-terrorism court.

    “It’s absolutely unacceptable. This is exactly what we are struggling for. President Putin has said it. President Xi has said it,” Sharif had said.

    Soon after the publication of Sharif's interview, the Indian media blew up his remarks, terming it an admission on part of the former prime minister that non-state actors from Pakistan were involved in the Mumbai attacks in which terrorists had killed more than 150 people and injured over 300 others in about a dozen shooting and bombing attacks in different localities.

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1407628/ns...and-misleading
    Last edited by AssassinatedDevil; 14th May 2018 at 08:55.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    A meeting of the National Security Committee (NSC), the country’s top civil-military body, was held on Monday to discuss the situation arising out of the recent remarks of PML-N supreme leader Nawaz Sharif about the 2008 Mumbai attacks.

    "The meeting reviewed the recent statement in the context of Mumbai attacks, as it appeared in the Daily Dawn of 12th May 2018, and unanimously termed this statement as incorrect and misleading," said a statement issued after the meeting.

    "The participants observed that it was very unfortunate that the opinion arising out of either misconceptions or grievances was being presented in disregard of concrete facts and realities. The participants unanimously rejected the allegations and condemned the fallacious assertions."

    According to the handout, it was recalled during the meeting that the delay in conclusion of Mumbai attack case was caused by India, not Pakistan.

    "Besides many other refusals during the investigation, the denial of access to the principal accused, Ajmal Qasab, and his extraordinarily hurried execution became the core impediment in the finalisation of the trial."

    Meanwhile, Pakistan continues to await cooperation from India regarding the arrest of Indian spy Kulbhushan Jadhav and the Samjhota Express attack, the statement said.

    "The National Security Committee resolved that Pakistan shall continue to play its due role in fighting the war against terrorism at all fronts," it concluded.

    Following the meeting, Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi met Sharif, who earlier in the day during a chat with reporters read excerpts from his interview to Dawn and dispelled the notion that the comments were falsely attributed to him. "Will speak the truth come what may," he said. "What did I say that was wrong in the interview?"

    Presided over by Prime Minister Abbasi, the NSC meeting was attended by Defence and Foreign Minister Khurram Dastgir, Finance Minister Miftah Ismail, Foreign Secretary Tehmina Janjua, National Security Adviser (NSA) Retired Lt General Nasser Khan Janjua, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee Gen Zubair Hayat, the director generals of Inter-Services Intelligence and Military Intelligence, and the three services chiefs.

    The convening of the meeting was announced by the military's media wing on Sunday evening.

    “(The) NSC meeting suggested to (the) prime minister to discuss recent misleading media statement regarding Bombay (Mumbai) incident. Being held tomorrow (Monday) morning,” Director General of the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor had shared through his official account on Twitter.

    Political analysts believe that these latest developments indicate further aggravation in the already tense civil-military relationship at a time when elections are just a couple of months away, Dawn reported. They believe that the announcement by the ISPR chief through social media indicates that the military authorities have decided to seriously take up the issue and that they want Prime Minister Abbasi’s stance over the matter.

    In an exclusive interview to Dawn published on Saturday, Sharif while speaking on matters related to the country’s foreign policy had stated: “Militant organisations are active. Call them non-state actors, should we allow them to cross the border and kill 150 people in Mumbai? Explain it to me. Why can’t we complete the trial?” He was referring to the Mumbai attacks-related trial proceedings which have stalled in the Rawalpindi anti-terrorism court.

    “It’s absolutely unacceptable. This is exactly what we are struggling for. President Putin has said it. President Xi has said it,” Sharif had said.

    Soon after the publication of Sharif's interview, the Indian media blew up his remarks, terming it an admission on part of the former prime minister that non-state actors from Pakistan were involved in the Mumbai attacks in which terrorists had killed more than 150 people and injured over 300 others in about a dozen shooting and bombing attacks in different localities.

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1407628/ns...and-misleading
    A massive slap for the treacherous duffer. Lets see where his puppet PM stands- is it with PK or the traitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy201 View Post
    I am sure Ex President and Army head Musharraf also was hanged without compromising, as he made similar statement once on live broadcast, saying pakistan ran proxy war and send militants across LOC.
    He said both countries were doing it and it needed to be addressed honestly if there was ever going to be a solution.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Why the ICJ? Do the Americans or the Russians prove anything at the ICJ? The guy is guilty as the day is long.
    Because you have the person as well as all the evidences. Wouldn't it be sweet to prove his guilt at the ICJ and humiliate India on world stage?


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    Sher has done a great service to his country. The first step to dealing with a potentially fatal problem is acknowledging it.
    Why are there posters seething on this thread - are they anti-truth? Nawaz bhai is merely stating the facts, which have been accepted all around the world.


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    Guess why Cyril is being given so much importance




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    Altaf Hussain Part-2. First speak rubbish and then deny. He is too hurt because he cannot enjoy the Badshahat.


    Rlaely it deson’t mttaer waht I wirte you’ll sitll uanrtednsnd it

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    Bhutto was arrested, incarcerated and hanged by a dictator and he went to the gallows without uttering a single word about our army, nuclear program or the East Pakistam debacle. He could have said a lot. He did not. Shame on you Nawaz Sharif for going down like this just to save your money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mian View Post

    He's such a weak foolish man our PM. He could have buried Nawaz and taken over the PMLN or at least ensured its survival and evolution into a credible continuous force. But alas once a darbary always a darbary. Amazing..

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    What a UTurn by PM Khaqan Abbasi
    Last edited by DeadBall; 14th May 2018 at 11:41.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Great Khan View Post
    He's such a weak foolish man our PM. He could have buried Nawaz and taken over the PMLN or at least ensured its survival and evolution into a credible continuous force. But alas once a darbary always a darbary. Amazing..
    He isn't clean and we all know about LNG case so there is no way he can come out with something like that against Raiwind ke Noore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mian View Post
    He isn't clean and we all know about LNG case so there is no way he can come out with something like that against Raiwind ke Noore.
    true. Beghairat insaan. One thing Mian sahib has done is to save his backside as he can now run off to london and talk against pakistan as the west will now support him and look after their man. He knows he's going to get a beating in the election. But now he can go around in london and say "well the army didnt like me speaking the truth so they rigged the election"..horrible man..

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    If what Noora said is true then it calls for prominent Pakistani PPers to issue statements to condemn this act and show solidarity with their Indian friends over here.

    If not then i am afraid to say as your Bhaijaan some friendships will have to be re-evaluated.

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    wow now the terrorist himself Rana Sanullah (Punjab Interior Minister with LeJ links) is defending Nawaz Sharif statement

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    Because you have the person as well as all the evidences. Wouldn't it be sweet to prove his guilt at the ICJ and humiliate India on world stage?
    And reveal how we nabbed him-Great idea to expose your own spies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mian View Post

    Cyril never talks about NS corruption only conspiracies. Dawn are so desperate to make Cyril some sort of martyr that its very difficult to make a comment against him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freelance_cricketer View Post
    If what Noora said is true then it calls for prominent Pakistani PPers to issue statements to condemn this act and show solidarity with their Indian friends over here.

    If not then i am afraid to say as your Bhaijaan some friendships will have to be re-evaluated.
    The only thing this thread has proven is that the Indian public is as gullible as the pakistani electorate.
    I'm hoping that the Pakistani electorate has opened it's eyes to the corruption and thieving of Mr NS and we finally get the right government.

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    Everyone knows this since the time attacks happened.. Nothing new here..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mian View Post

    Yeah its "pure dumb luck"..... I also happen to get presidential treatment at airports and have charter planes sent to me and have a seat on the table next to ex-PM by "pure dumb luck"



    These sort of journalist will sell everything if given the right price.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    And reveal how we nabbed him-Great idea to expose your own spies.
    According to Pakistan you guys caught him in Balochistan. Whats the issue then?

    Show the evidence of his "terror" activities to the ICJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_gamer007 View Post
    Everyone knows this since the time attacks happened.. Nothing new here..
    Yes nothing new but the denial and delusions of SOME of our Pakistani friends is just sad to see.

    They call modi a terrorist but when it comes to 26/11, they are not ready to accept the indirect role of Pakistani establishment.

    The less said about their unidimensional perspective on Kashmir, the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    And reveal how we nabbed him-Great idea to expose your own spies.
    We all know why you can't do that


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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    Yes nothing new but the denial and delusions of SOME of our Pakistani friends is just sad to see.

    They call modi a terrorist but when it comes to 26/11, they are not ready to accept the indirect role of Pakistani establishment.

    The less said about their unidimensional perspective on Kashmir, the better.
    Pakistani establishment would never send people on a boat to kill Indian on the streets.

    Will support Kashmiri.
    Will support any struggle to Independence
    Will support any group who would have an advantage over Indian government.

    But would never send people on a boat to kill Indian. Any one with a tiny brain can come to that conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by www787 View Post
    Pakistani establishment would never send people on a boat to kill Indian on the streets.

    Will support Kashmiri.
    Will support any struggle to Independence
    Will support any group who would have an advantage over Indian government.

    But would never send people on a boat to kill Indian. Any one with a tiny brain can come to that conclusion.
    And yet your Government at that time, yes your Government accepted that the attacks were carried out from Pak soil? Not to mention how the media proved it as well tracing back to his village.


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    And Indian flocking to this thread all happy as if something is proven. Nothing has.

    This thread about a guy, who would go down to any hole to safe his money and himself.

    He knows he is finished as a politician and he has no future in Pakistan as a politician. This is the guy who didn't even think about his brothers political career before saying stupid crap to appease and hoping to get international support to safe his behind and his money.

    He is a snake, his politics has destroyed Pakistan along with PPP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    And yet your Government at that time, yes your Government accepted that the attacks were carried out from Pak soil? Not to mention how the media proved it as well tracing back to his village.
    I repeat, and now read it slowly, since your false patriotism has got your adrenaline pumping and it get difficult to comprehend.

    Pakistani "establisment" would never send people on a boat to kill Indian. Any one with a tiny brain can come to that conclusion.

    Did you read it slowly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    Yes nothing new but the denial and delusions of SOME of our Pakistani friends is just sad to see.

    They call modi a terrorist but when it comes to 26/11, they are not ready to accept the indirect role of Pakistani establishment.

    The less said about their unidimensional perspective on Kashmir, the better.
    RAW is indirectly responsible for the death of 60000 Pakistanis.

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    Indians have already milked this event enough and taken revenge with Pakistan in a lot of ways. Don't know why this dead horse is being beaten again.

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    Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi, during a press conference in Islamabad on Monday, said that Nawaz Sharif's statements about the Mumbai attacks in an interview to Dawn were being misrepresented by Indian media — and people in Pakistan should not become party to the propaganda.

    The press conference was held shortly after the conclusion of a National Security Council (NSC) session, which was convened to discuss "recent misleading media statement" regarding the Mumbai attacks.

    According to DawnNewsTV, PM Abbasi dispelled the impression that Nawaz had said that the Mumbai attacks had been planned in Pakistan.

    "Nawaz Sharif said that he neither said any such thing, nor can it be said on the basis of assumptions that planning for the Mumbai attacks was done in Pakistan," said the PM, who met Nawaz shortly after the NSC meeting ended.

    "Indian media is giving the issue a different hue, and we should not be a part of it," he said.

    The NSC did not condemn Nawaz, but the incorrect reporting of the interview, the PM clarified, referring to an earlier joint statement issued by the country’s top civil-military body.

    "There was no talk [by Nawaz] of the Mumbai attacks being planned in Pakistan," Abbasi explained.

    "Nawaz Sharif said that Pakistan has not permitted its soil to be used for terrorism," he added.

    "The participants observed that it was very unfortunate that the opinion arising out of either misconceptions or grievances was being presented in disregard of concrete facts and realities," a press release issued after the meeting had said.

    "The participants unanimously rejected the allegations and condemned the fallacious assertions."

    "The facts should be made public," he added.

    Abbasi, who was elected PM after Nawaz Sharif was ousted as the country's premier by the Supreme Court in the Panamagate judgement, reiterated his support for his predecessor. "As the prime minister, I stand with Nawaz Sharif," he said, adding that Nawaz would remain the party's quaid.

    He also clarified that he was not resigning, saying, "I will stay the prime minister until 12am on May 31."

    The PM asserted that civil-military relations remain the same as before. He added that he had made the decision to call the NSC meeting a day earlier.

    The press conference has not been aired on any television channel so far. Samaa TV, however, claimed on its website to have run the presser.

    Nawaz's interview
    In an exclusive interview to Dawn published on Saturday, Nawaz, while speaking on matters related to the country’s foreign policy, had stated: "Militant organisations are active. Call them non-state actors, should we allow them to cross the border and kill 150 people in Mumbai? Explain it to me. Why can’t we complete the trial?" He was referring to the Mumbai attacks-related trial proceedings which have stalled in the Rawalpindi anti-terrorism court.

    Although Nawaz has stuck to his guns, asking: "What did I say that was wrong in the interview?", his younger brother Shahbaz, who is also the chief minister of Punjab, issued a statement on Sunday, saying that the news report had "incorrectly attributed certain remarks to PML-N Quaid Nawaz Sharif, which do not represent PML-N’s party policy".

    Nawaz, in response, had dispelled the notion that the comments were falsely attributed to him, saying that he would speak the truth come what may.

    'Incorrect and misleading statement,' say civil-mil officials
    Top civil-military officials who took part in the NSC today — which was called on a 'suggestion' by the Army — unanimously termed the statement 'incorrect and misleading'.

    "The meeting reviewed the recent statement in the context of Mumbai attacks, as it appeared in the daily Dawn of 12th May 2018, and unanimously termed this statement as incorrect and misleading," a press handout issued after the meeting said.

    "The participants observed that it was very unfortunate that the opinion arising out of either misconceptions or grievances was being presented in disregard of concrete facts and realities. The participants unanimously rejected the allegations and condemned the fallacious assertions," the statement added.

    'Gross misinterpretation by Indian media'
    The PML-N and its leaders have, since Saturday, been scrambling to explain what the statement actually meant, while Nawaz has since read out the excerpts from the interview asking whether he has said anything wrong.

    The PML-N claims that Nawaz was "grossly misinterpreted by the Indian media" as a part of malicious propaganda which was unintentionally or intentionally validated by Pakistani media.

    'Indian govt to blame for Mumbai attacks trial hold-up'
    Earlier on Sunday, without naming Nawaz directly, former interior minister Chaudhry Nisar had addressed the PML-N supremo's question: "Why can’t we complete the [Mumbai attacks] trial?"

    Nisar, under whose watch the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) was investigating the Mumbai attacks, had emphasised that the Indian government was to blame for the hold-up in the trial. He added that since the assault took place in the Indian financial capital, it was the Indian government which possessed "90 per cent of the evidence and facts" of the incident.

    Nawaz, when asked by a reporter on Monday to comment on the impression that India has been reluctant to provide evidence in the case, responded: "There is no shortage of evidence — there is plenty of evidence."

    This is a developing story that is being updated as the situation evolves. Initial reports in the media can sometimes be inaccurate. We will strive to ensure timeliness and accuracy by relying on credible sources such as concerned, qualified authorities and our staff reporters.

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1407633/in...says-pm-abbasi


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi, during a press conference in Islamabad on Monday, said that Nawaz Sharif's statements about the Mumbai attacks in an interview to Dawn were being misrepresented by Indian media — and people in Pakistan should not become party to the propaganda.

    The press conference was held shortly after the conclusion of a National Security Council (NSC) session, which was convened to discuss "recent misleading media statement" regarding the Mumbai attacks.

    According to DawnNewsTV, PM Abbasi dispelled the impression that Nawaz had said that the Mumbai attacks had been planned in Pakistan.

    "Nawaz Sharif said that he neither said any such thing, nor can it be said on the basis of assumptions that planning for the Mumbai attacks was done in Pakistan," said the PM, who met Nawaz shortly after the NSC meeting ended.

    "Indian media is giving the issue a different hue, and we should not be a part of it," he said.

    The NSC did not condemn Nawaz, but the incorrect reporting of the interview, the PM clarified, referring to an earlier joint statement issued by the country’s top civil-military body.

    "There was no talk [by Nawaz] of the Mumbai attacks being planned in Pakistan," Abbasi explained.

    "Nawaz Sharif said that Pakistan has not permitted its soil to be used for terrorism," he added.

    "The participants observed that it was very unfortunate that the opinion arising out of either misconceptions or grievances was being presented in disregard of concrete facts and realities," a press release issued after the meeting had said.

    "The participants unanimously rejected the allegations and condemned the fallacious assertions."

    "The facts should be made public," he added.

    Abbasi, who was elected PM after Nawaz Sharif was ousted as the country's premier by the Supreme Court in the Panamagate judgement, reiterated his support for his predecessor. "As the prime minister, I stand with Nawaz Sharif," he said, adding that Nawaz would remain the party's quaid.

    He also clarified that he was not resigning, saying, "I will stay the prime minister until 12am on May 31."

    The PM asserted that civil-military relations remain the same as before. He added that he had made the decision to call the NSC meeting a day earlier.

    The press conference has not been aired on any television channel so far. Samaa TV, however, claimed on its website to have run the presser.

    Nawaz's interview
    In an exclusive interview to Dawn published on Saturday, Nawaz, while speaking on matters related to the country’s foreign policy, had stated: "Militant organisations are active. Call them non-state actors, should we allow them to cross the border and kill 150 people in Mumbai? Explain it to me. Why can’t we complete the trial?" He was referring to the Mumbai attacks-related trial proceedings which have stalled in the Rawalpindi anti-terrorism court.

    Although Nawaz has stuck to his guns, asking: "What did I say that was wrong in the interview?", his younger brother Shahbaz, who is also the chief minister of Punjab, issued a statement on Sunday, saying that the news report had "incorrectly attributed certain remarks to PML-N Quaid Nawaz Sharif, which do not represent PML-N’s party policy".

    Nawaz, in response, had dispelled the notion that the comments were falsely attributed to him, saying that he would speak the truth come what may.

    'Incorrect and misleading statement,' say civil-mil officials
    Top civil-military officials who took part in the NSC today — which was called on a 'suggestion' by the Army — unanimously termed the statement 'incorrect and misleading'.

    "The meeting reviewed the recent statement in the context of Mumbai attacks, as it appeared in the daily Dawn of 12th May 2018, and unanimously termed this statement as incorrect and misleading," a press handout issued after the meeting said.

    "The participants observed that it was very unfortunate that the opinion arising out of either misconceptions or grievances was being presented in disregard of concrete facts and realities. The participants unanimously rejected the allegations and condemned the fallacious assertions," the statement added.

    'Gross misinterpretation by Indian media'
    The PML-N and its leaders have, since Saturday, been scrambling to explain what the statement actually meant, while Nawaz has since read out the excerpts from the interview asking whether he has said anything wrong.

    The PML-N claims that Nawaz was "grossly misinterpreted by the Indian media" as a part of malicious propaganda which was unintentionally or intentionally validated by Pakistani media.

    'Indian govt to blame for Mumbai attacks trial hold-up'
    Earlier on Sunday, without naming Nawaz directly, former interior minister Chaudhry Nisar had addressed the PML-N supremo's question: "Why can’t we complete the [Mumbai attacks] trial?"

    Nisar, under whose watch the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) was investigating the Mumbai attacks, had emphasised that the Indian government was to blame for the hold-up in the trial. He added that since the assault took place in the Indian financial capital, it was the Indian government which possessed "90 per cent of the evidence and facts" of the incident.

    Nawaz, when asked by a reporter on Monday to comment on the impression that India has been reluctant to provide evidence in the case, responded: "There is no shortage of evidence — there is plenty of evidence."

    This is a developing story that is being updated as the situation evolves. Initial reports in the media can sometimes be inaccurate. We will strive to ensure timeliness and accuracy by relying on credible sources such as concerned, qualified authorities and our staff reporters.

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1407633/in...says-pm-abbasi
    Pakistan accepted way back in 2009 that Mumbai attacks were planned and financed in Pakistan. What is this new claim that attacks were not planned in Pakistan.

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    Nawaz stooge of India surprise not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistan cricket fan View Post
    Nawaz stooge of India surprise not.
    Was the previous govt also a stooge?

    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/a....co/sROuDiUzo9

    Is your former DG FIA also a stooge?

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1198061/mumbai-attacks-trial

    Your ex ISPR spokesperson also a stooge?

    https://www.dawn.com/news/623876

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    You can give me more examples but that doesn't change the fact that he is Indian stooge and i am happy he is history now.
    Sinds you are BJP spokesperson where was your security when 10 men came on fisherboat with so many wapens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Was the previous govt also a stooge?

    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/a....co/sROuDiUzo9

    Is your former DG FIA also a stooge?

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1198061/mumbai-attacks-trial

    Your ex ISPR spokesperson also a stooge?

    https://www.dawn.com/news/623876
    You can give me more examples but that doesn't change the fact that he is Indian stooge and i am happy he is history now.
    Sinds you are BJP spokesperson where was your security when 10 men came on fisherboat with so many wapens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistan cricket fan View Post
    You can give me more examples but that doesn't change the fact that he is Indian stooge and i am happy he is history now.
    Sinds you are BJP spokesperson where was your security when 10 men came on fisherboat with so many wapens?
    I dont give a damn about what happens to some Pakistani politician. But suddenly the Pak Army thinks it can deny involvement of Pakistanis in 26/11. The world knows the truth.Pakistan has accepted it.

    What has BJP got to do here?

    The whataboutery wont absolve pakistanis of the heinous crime. Security forces couldnot prevent 9/11 or the London bombings or the paris attacks? Could they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    Yes nothing new but the denial and delusions of SOME of our Pakistani friends is just sad to see.

    They call modi a terrorist but when it comes to 26/11, they are not ready to accept the indirect role of Pakistani establishment.

    The less said about their unidimensional perspective on Kashmir, the better.
    It’s simple bro a sizeable number of posters here live abroad in developed nations and they don’t have to face daily hardships which terrorism/supporting terrorist brings to an average Pakistani.

    Then there are some posters who are so brainwashed they would rather support such actions against India/USA/infidels rather than demanding a better standard of living from their government, education and healthcare for their children.

    Then there are some sensible ones who understand that supporting terrorists is supporting an ideology where once you support an ideology it will result in more harm to yourself than anyone else..

    Ultimately this support is causing more harm to Pakistan than anyone else.. People don’t realise these terrorist have an ideology which is very backward and which hampers growth of their own nation and hampers improvement in their life.. Today a terrorist being supported by Pakistani army will be called a good terrorist however his ideology is feudal and he might take law in his own hands and kill someone like a Salman Taseer or Qandeel Baloch because his ideology doesn’t permit it.. terrorism is just a fancy name given to feudal/Patriarchal ideology which needs to be removed.. But when so called educated people don’t condemn it 100% unequivocally then you can understand why people in power use such groups to Gain support.

    Pakistan was going in the right direction till 60’s.. They got a guy who brought in such an ideology and look at where they are now.. In an ideal world Pakistan should be 100% against terrorism and bring everyone like hafiz Saeed to daood to Taliban under the books, if they need any help they can ask China, India, for help and the three nations together should eradicate the area of any feudal ideologies..

    Bt we live in a world where it’s easier to get votes by promising killing of infidels than promising 100% free medical, education, electricity for everyone.

    Before anyone says anything the above holds true for India as well..

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    I dont give a damn about what happens to some Pakistani politician. But suddenly the Pak Army thinks it can deny involvement of Pakistanis in 26/11. The world knows the truth.Pakistan has accepted it.

    What has BJP got to do here?

    The whataboutery wont absolve pakistanis of the heinous crime. Security forces couldnot prevent 9/11 or the London bombings or the paris attacks? Could they?
    Calm down mr mere bharaat mahaan.

    So no answer to what i ask and deflected to Londen, 9/11.

    And the amount off propaganda you speak against Pakistan you are lucky that is a great forum otherwise you would be already banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_gamer007 View Post
    It’s simple bro a sizeable number of posters here live abroad in developed nations and they don’t have to face daily hardships which terrorism/supporting terrorist brings to an average Pakistani.

    Then there are some posters who are so brainwashed they would rather support such actions against India/USA/infidels rather than demanding a better standard of living from their government, education and healthcare for their children.

    Then there are some sensible ones who understand that supporting terrorists is supporting an ideology where once you support an ideology it will result in more harm to yourself than anyone else..

    Ultimately this support is causing more harm to Pakistan than anyone else.. People don’t realise these terrorist have an ideology which is very backward and which hampers growth of their own nation and hampers improvement in their life.. Today a terrorist being supported by Pakistani army will be called a good terrorist however his ideology is feudal and he might take law in his own hands and kill someone like a Salman Taseer or Qandeel Baloch because his ideology doesn’t permit it.. terrorism is just a fancy name given to feudal/Patriarchal ideology which needs to be removed.. But when so called educated people don’t condemn it 100% unequivocally then you can understand why people in power use such groups to Gain support.

    Pakistan was going in the right direction till 60’s.. They got a guy who brought in such an ideology and look at where they are now.. In an ideal world Pakistan should be 100% against terrorism and bring everyone like hafiz Saeed to daood to Taliban under the books, if they need any help they can ask China, India, for help and the three nations together should eradicate the area of any feudal ideologies..

    Bt we live in a world where it’s easier to get votes by promising killing of infidels than promising 100% free medical, education, electricity for everyone.

    Before anyone says anything the above holds true for India as well..
    Good post.

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