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View Poll Results: Who has been Pakistan's best Head Coach so far?

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  • Bob Woolmer

    29 32.22%
  • Dav Whatmore

    1 1.11%
  • Geoff Lawson

    2 2.22%
  • Intikhab Alam

    3 3.33%
  • Javed Miandad

    4 4.44%
  • Mickey Arthur

    43 47.78%
  • Mohsin Khan

    1 1.11%
  • Moin Khan

    0 0%
  • Mushtaq Mohammad

    0 0%
  • Richard Pybus

    1 1.11%
  • Waqar Younis

    6 6.67%
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    Who has been Pakistan's best Head Coach so far?

    A few names to choose from and will depend on how old people are who do this poll!


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    Bob Woolmer?

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    Woolmer than mickey

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    Mickey Arthur more then anyone.

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    Imran in the 80s and early 90s has been the captain and a kind of coach as well. Guys like Intikhab Alam have been just filling in the slot. If you consider coach in the true sense then it's Woolmer followed by Micky and Lawson

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    Mohsin Khan

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    Woolmer was superb, but Mickey's not doing a bad job at all and could perhaps take over from Bob at some point in the future.



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    I'd pick Woolmer but for the fact that he had abundance of riches - which Mickey doesn't have. So Mickey.

    All the others - No impact.

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    It's hard to say between Micky and Woolmer.

    Bob won us some of our greatest Test victories and in an ODI series in India but we were below par overall in ODIs.

    Micky has done great in LOI but apart from Lord's Tests have been poor.

    Hard call.

    Also Waqar lead us back from disgrace and was in charge during many memorable wins.

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    For me it’s Mickey.He’s the best Pakistan head coach I have seen in my time of following cricket.

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    Waqar for setting the base but Mickey will overtake him once his stint is done

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    I voted Mickey Arthur. He has bought more dressing room stability. Pak team has avoided any controversies for a long time now. Just produce some top batsman for us Mickey sahiib and us fans will be happy as Larry!


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    who voted for Waqar Younis

    This is not a thread for " worst coach " , its best coach.

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    How mohsin ( jab main coach tha ) khan is not best coach of Pakistan. How can we forget 3-0 white wash to England.

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    Mickey Arthur in the lead with 56% of the votes so far.



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    Voted for Inti as Pakistan have won the most trophies under his guidance and leadership when he was coach. Long live


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    Quote Originally Posted by Corridor of Uncertainty View Post
    I'd pick Woolmer but for the fact that he had abundance of riches - which Mickey doesn't have. So Mickey.

    All the others - No impact.
    This

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    A sign of a good coach is when the players keep raving about him years and years after his exit. If you ask the Pakistani players who was the best coach they were with, all of them from Afridi, Malik, Yousaf, Younis, Inzamam, Kamran Akmal and co will say Woolmer.

    Woolmer actually privately behind the scenes wanted to continue with Pakistan after the 2007 WC but wanted more power and say in selection once Inzi retired but unfortunately that never came.

    Too early to say anything about Mickey Arthur, but he is making all the right moves, setting in standards and bringing in a high class performance structure (even if he is not applying it impartially at the moment). Will only be able to judge Arthur wholeheartedly once he finishes his tenure. Pakistan needs atleast 10 years of Mickey Arthur's influence.

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    Bob was good, but too soft for our culture.

    We need danda and that's why Mickey is actually winning prizes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince of Pakistan View Post
    Bob was good, but too soft for our culture.

    We need danda and that's why Mickey is actually winning prizes.
    Bob also won a lot. For me both Mickey and Bob are the best. Rest had little to no impact!

    Hope Mickey stays for a long time.

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    Bob. But it will be Arthur by the end of his tenure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justcrazy View Post
    who voted for Waqar Younis

    This is not a thread for " worst coach " , its best coach.
    He set the foundations for Mickey

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    Intikhab being good has less to do with him and more to do with Imran being the Captain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adzzy786 View Post
    He set the foundations for Mickey
    What foundations are you talking about ? He was winning in UAE. Even under Mohsin Khan pakistan beat England 3 nil there.

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    Richard Pibus

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    Quote Originally Posted by adzzy786 View Post
    He set the foundations for Mickey
    LOL. Even MHK is better than him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fawad_wellwisher View Post
    Voted for Inti as Pakistan have won the most trophies under his guidance and leadership when he was coach. Long live
    Zidane of Pakistan.

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    Mickey for me....
    Woolmer was good but then when a team consist of shoaib inzi yousuf younis.. then any coach would do a good job.

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    Yes folks, jump on the Mickey Arthur bandwagon now

    Only joking. I always felt Arthur was the right appointment because A) he has a proven international coaching record of success, and B) will not tolerate any ill discipline.

    Both were exactly what we needed at the time.

    Bob was a terrific technical coach who got the most out of players like Yousuf and Inzamam who were underachieving before his tenure, revitalised Younis's career, spotted Mohammad Asif whilst others like Butt, Afridi, Kamran, Malik and Naved all enjoyed their best spells under him.

    The only criticism is not being tougher on discipline, perhaps being an older English/South African gentleman, and a disappointing ICC tournament record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justcrazy View Post
    who voted for Waqar Younis

    This is not a thread for " worst coach " , its best coach.
    How dare you besmirch the Pep Guardiola of cricket (according to his fans) ?

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    Mickey all the way

    Number 1 Test Ranking(SA)
    Number 1 T20I Ranking(PAK)
    Number 1 ODI ranking(SA)
    CT victory(PAK)

    Mickey might actually be one of the best coaches in cricket history..just needs a WC to his name and a few overseas test victories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    How dare you besmirch the Pep Guardiola of cricket (according to his fans) ?
    Can slog please show up and respond to this wonderfully articulated sledge - All in Good Fun Boys!!

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    Foreign Coaches in the lead....


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    Pybus then Javed IMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    How dare you besmirch the Pep Guardiola of cricket (according to his fans) ?
    Waqar bhae is more in the mould of Fat Sam or Alan Padrew tbh.

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    1. Micky Arthur
    2 Bob Woolmer
    3. Javed Miandad (was a good coach when players actually listened to him and did as they were told. Maybe couldn't get the best out of them due to the rogue elements i.e. match fixers and politics. Was the brains behind Imran's captaincy on the field at least in his playing days).

    Having said all the above if the players have the right attitude, talent and focus then doesn't matter who the coach is. The captain matters more in leading from the front and being the real coach.

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    People underrating geoff lawson here. He was also a pretty good.

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    Mickey managed to make us turn the corner in ODIs from an 80s ODI unit to one with a modern day template with some of the least star power on hand relative to the other coaches on the list.

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    Mickey definitely specially with the way we transitioned from Misbah's ODI team to a more modern LO team.

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    It should be between Bob Woolmer and Mickey Arthur for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuzaifaE View Post
    Mickey managed to make us turn the corner in ODIs from an 80s ODI unit to one with a modern day template with some of the least star power on hand relative to the other coaches on the list.
    He has the most I've ever seen in a Pakistan team. Babar, Hasan, Shadab, Haris, Amir, Fakhar? These are all quality talents. Compare this with a few years ago when none of these players were available and our star talent was Umar and Jamshed.

    Mickey works well with the players which he has to his credit, but a lot of the rising is attributed by the sudden talent we've got available. Whom started performing from the get go. If anything Inzi should get more credit for bringing the players in. I have no idea why people continue to acredit Mickey for this, despite the fact in most cases e.g. Haris, Fakhar he's been slow to bring these new players to the squad in right away.

    Mickey makes quite a few big tactical errors like 2nd spinner against SL, playing Rahat over Hasan, wanting Irfan and Umar before realising they were unfit (as everyone else knew already).

    It's a bit early to say, but he's alright not bad but not a great coach so far. It feels a bit silly to term someone a great coach when we're still losing and still ranked 7th and 6th in Tests and ODIs, i.e. bottom half. I'll wait until we rise and are beating teams consistently. My biggest annoyance is that he seems to work well with the players, but mucks up the easy decisions.

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    Javed Miandad

    /thread


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    I will go with Woolmer because he transformed struggling players into world class players. Under Woolmer, we probably had the most stable and strong batting unit of all time. Our LOs team was far superior than what we had after him.

    If Mickey can produce at least 2-3 world class players for Pakistan, he will surpass Woolmer.

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    Mickey's approach is very risky. Its like he is the Imran Khan of coaching, his approach will either transform the team or it will completely back fire and ignite a bad fire which cannot be stopped.

    I hope for his sake he finds a reasonable middle ground. He cannot go around humiliating his dislikes in the media, turning a blind eye to his favorites, making selection, strategy mistakes and not having the guts to own up to it, being inflexible in his opinions i.e. completely shutting the doors on Imran Khan (even though he was our best averaging pacer at the time), Fawad Alam, Sohail Khan

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    I think Mickey has grown on a lot of people.

    When he was appointed many questioned the decision but he has proved his credentials as a top coach. I particularly like his no-nonsense approach with the players and also the PCB.



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    Like I said above it has to be between Mickey and Woolmer and probably due to the recent success Mickey shades it a little ahead of the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    I think Mickey has grown on a lot of people.

    When he was appointed many questioned the decision but he has proved his credentials as a top coach. I particularly like his no-nonsense approach with the players and also the PCB.
    I wasn't a big fan of him being appointed as our head coach(due to his unceremonious sacking by CA and Homeworkgate),but he's won me over,along with many others.

    He still has a lot to learn though,especially in UAE tests.

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    Mickey for me, i was the first to criticize his appointment when he first took over, but i am so happy he has proved me wrong. Instilled discipline, youth and energy into this Pakistan team, hopefully he can complete the transformation and take Pakistan cricket into the modern ages. Woolmer was also an excellent coach but had a better pool of players to pick from.

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    Mickey Arthur is leading by a reasonable margin, Woolmer has got decent votes as well. The two best coaches Pakistan have had in the last 2 decades.

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    Micky Arthur IMO. He was instrumental in helping Pakistan win champions trophy and drew 2 test series against England in England. These are accomplishments of highest degrees. One thing where he has failed completely is improving Pakistan players' fielding and fitness and that is a black mark on his performance until now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happydavy View Post
    Micky Arthur IMO. He was instrumental in helping Pakistan win champions trophy and drew 2 test series against England in England. These are accomplishments of highest degrees. One thing where he has failed completely is improving Pakistan players' fielding and fitness and that is a black mark on his performance until now.
    What? Our fielding and fitness has improved loads

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    Mickey ahead of everyone imo

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    I would go for Mickey as he inherited the team in pathetic situation and has done really well so far. There are few flaws in his strategies like being 1 spinner short in UAE but I am sure he will learn from it.

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    Woolmer got us to top 3 in the ODI rankings if I remember correctly. Then again, his Pakistan side bombed out of pretty much every ICC tournament they played. Even stevens at the moment, although I'll take Mickey cause of the CT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    Woolmer got us to top 3 in the ODI rankings if I remember correctly. Then again, his Pakistan side bombed out of pretty much every ICC tournament they played. Even stevens at the moment, although I'll take Mickey cause of the CT
    Lost 2 ODI series and the 2004 test series vs India at home as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarfarazian92 View Post
    Lost 2 ODI series and the 2004 test series vs India at home as well.
    2004 test series was Javed Miandad

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    No doubt Micky Arthur. Won the champions trophy with a team that just about qualified for the tournament and the lowest ranked side whilst beating the 3 favourites in South Africa, England and India comfortably!

    However, What Micky is doing now, Waqar wanted to implement years ago. But the PCB never listened too him.

    Young blood, Fewer number of has beens in the squad as possible, Excellent fielders, Modern day approach to the game which is why I feel sorry for Waqar as he never got the players he wanted to make his own team.

    Despite that, Don't forget how Pakistan reached the semi finals in the 2010 T20 World Cup and 2011 World Cup under his tenure as coach when the team went through their darkest phase in history and so many inner politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    2004 test series was Javed Miandad
    Oh yeah my bad 2004 ODI series was also Miandad then


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    Winning games is not end all of coaching , more important is to see team developing and getting a good bench strength. Its a long term process. Its about creating a strong unit that will play well under different conditions.

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    Not Dav Whatmore that's for sure.

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    I went for Mickey Arthur as I didn't follow cricket much when Bob Woolmer was in charge. I didn't like Arthur at first but am satisfied with him, although I still haven't forgotten that series loss v Sri Lanka!

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    Bob Woolmer...although we didn't won any ICC tournament under him and had a disastrous 2007 WC, but we did beat a good Indian side in a Test series and beat a strong English team which had just won the Ashes in 2005. Also when Woolmer was around Australia were still a great side and South Africa under Smith were a tough unit. Sri Lanka wasn't a bad side either. And we were no.3 in the Test rankings. Overall the standard and quality of other teams at that time was much be better than today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greatest View Post
    Bob Woolmer...although we didn't won any ICC tournament under him and had a disastrous 2007 WC, but we did beat a good Indian side in a Test series and beat a strong English team which had just won the Ashes in 2005. Also when Woolmer was around Australia were still a great side and South Africa under Smith were a tough unit. Sri Lanka wasn't a bad side either. And we were no.3 in the Test rankings. Overall the standard and quality of other teams at that time was much be better than today.
    We were no.3 in the ODI rankings if I remember correctly

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    Quote Originally Posted by zarar View Post
    No doubt Micky Arthur. Won the champions trophy with a team that just about qualified for the tournament and the lowest ranked side whilst beating the 3 favourites in South Africa, England and India comfortably!

    However, What Micky is doing now, Waqar wanted to implement years ago. But the PCB never listened too him.

    Young blood, Fewer number of has beens in the squad as possible, Excellent fielders, Modern day approach to the game which is why I feel sorry for Waqar as he never got the players he wanted to make his own team.

    Despite that, Don't forget how Pakistan reached the semi finals in the 2010 T20 World Cup and 2011 World Cup under his tenure as coach when the team went through their darkest phase in history and so many inner politics.
    Hence why waqar used to play shafiq over Babar in odis.

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