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    We have better spinners than India, says Afghanistan skipper Asghar Stanikzai

    Shaken by the horrors of war, Afghanistan will take a mighty step in cricket history when captain Asghar Stanikzai leads his team out for their first ever Test match against India on Thursday.

    Conflict has scarred virtually every member of the team and they are impoverished compared with their opponents, the world's wealthiest cricket nation.

    But Stanikzai said they are determined to show their rise to a Test nation less than two decades after being recognised by the International Cricket Council in 2001 is merited.

    "It's a great moment for us as we embark on our Test journey," said Stanikzai, who has been a member of the Afghanistan side since they gained one-day international status in 2009.

    "To be competing against the best on the Test rankings table is something to be proud of and we will try to do our best in whatever chances we get and exhibit the skills the players possess individually as well as collectively as a team."

    "In my opinion we have better spinners than India," Stanikzai told Indian media, highlighting the likes of Khan, Mujeeb Ur Rahman, Mohammad Nabi, Rahmat Shah and Zahir Khan.

    Indian batsman Karun Nair, famed for his triple century in his third Test against England in 2016, cast doubt on Stanikzai's claim of spin superiority.

    "I think that's a pretty big statement to make considering they haven't played Test cricket," Nair told reporters.

    "All of our spinners are proven wicket-takers so there is nothing much to say on that."

    The Indian team will be led by Ajinkya Rahane in the absence of regular captain Virat Kohli, who is resting, and are overwhelming favourites.

    But the Afghans can give heavyweights India a tough time if they follow the footsteps of the other team to make their Test debut this year: last month, Ireland made Pakistan sweat before eventually losing their first-ever Test.

    https://www.khaleejtimes.com/sport/c...pper-stanikzai
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    That's a big statement, let's see if they can deliver


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    What about batsmen?

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    It is going to be an exciting contest.

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    I think it's a fair statement considering the skills of their spinners. If they bat well which is unlikely, they have an outside chance. Likelihood their spinners will have little runs to play with.


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    Probably true. But their entire batting line combined is probably 25% of Virat Kohli, so they will get crushed.

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    Could be in T20. But Test bowling is different beast altogether.They might not even have the stamina to bowl full day accurately at the first place considering their lack of FC experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingolfy View Post
    Could be in T20. But Test bowling is different beast altogether.They might not even have the stamina to bowl full day accurately at the first place considering their lack of FC experience.
    This.

    Not to mention, everyone knows AFG's only threat it spin, especially Rashid.

    That is what India will be preparing for.

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    He is not wrong but again no one knows how well Rashid or Mujeeb will be if the batsmen are not attacking them or trying to score runs of them. They would have to think on their feet and come up with different plans. The Indian batsmen are not going to slog accross the line, so it will be interesting to see if Rashid and Mujeeb have the patience to work through players in Test cricket.

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    This is a stupid comment. Ashwin and Jadeja are proven match winners in those conditions. Rashid is yet to play a test. There's no comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    This is a stupid comment. Ashwin and Jadeja are proven match winners in those conditions. Rashid is yet to play a test. There's no comparison.
    You can also add that Rashid hasn’t performed against an actual top ranking team even in the short format. When he has, they have taken him to the cleaners. See SA in 2016

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    Well its a fact that Afghan spinners are really good and can¬’t be taken lightly. However i¬’d disagree with the ¬‘better¬’ claim. Ashwin and Jadeja are proven match winners in spinning conditions. Add Kuldeep to the list and no team stands a chance against them on spinning tracks, let alone inexperienced Afghanistan team.

    The question is- Do Rashid and co have the stamina and patience to bowl in Test cricket? Because unlike T20s , batsmen don¬’t try to slog every other bowl in tests. So instead of bowling 4 overs where you can unleash all your skills, it¬’d be like bowling 40 overs with same passion and patience.

    Also Its highly probable that India produces seam friendly wickets keeping English tour in mind just like they din against Srilanka before SA tour. How good are Afghan pacers?
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    Running down such a successful pair of Test spinners with 311 and 165 test wickets respectively, that too in Indian conditions in the longer format! Confidence is good, overconfidence can be very harmful.

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    I hope India crush Afghanistan to a million pieces in this Test, expecting lots of centuries from Indian batsmen here.

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    Afghan bros certainly do a lot of trash talking. I remember them talking about Steyn at the World T20 too

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    Seems like natural talent isn't the only thing Afghans learnt from the Pakistanis

    Anyway good luck to our Afghan brothers. May they have a great outing. Test format will really give us a proper idea of where Afghanistan stands skill wise. Their batting is not convincing at all. 160 all out is a decent T20 score, won't win matches in tests.

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    I really hope Afghanistan bat first so India are batting last and hopefully Rashid Khan and Mujeeb can come into play!

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    Quote Originally Posted by freelance_cricketer View Post
    Seems like natural talent isn't the only thing Afghans learnt from the Pakistanis

    Anyway good luck to our Afghan brothers. May they have a great outing. Test format will really give us a proper idea of where Afghanistan stands skill wise. Their batting is not convincing at all. 160 all out is a decent T20 score, won't win matches in tests.
    TBH, even he knows they're gonna receive a phainta. Just keeping morale up I guess!

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    Worse attitude than BDers.

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    They have magic spinners. In Tests it is slightly different. But don't rule out a mini collapse or two given that current Indian batting line up is not exactly great against spin.

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    He is not really wrong . If not better at least on par in terms of abilities. The difference and I am pretty sure even he is aware is the patience and temperament when nothing is happening and batters are well set and milking runs ... because unlike limited overs game the pressure of run rate does not exist
    That's what counts in test matches

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    Quote Originally Posted by mp812rediff View Post
    He is not really wrong . If not better at least on par in terms of abilities. The difference and I am pretty sure even he is aware is the patience and temperament when nothing is happening and batters are well set and milking runs ... because unlike limited overs game the pressure of run rate does not exist
    That's what counts in test matches
    Dude, just how can he make a statement like that? Talent wise, may be one can argue. This is a freaking test match. The number of FC games Indian spinners have player would probably be more than the number of T20 games these guys have played. In the end, test match cricket is more about application and less about talent, IMHO.


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    I like Rashid, but he is very overrated and will get exposed here.

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    Well running down a bowling pair who have close to 500 test wickets at 25 isnt very wise. Add to that Kuldeep Yadav.

    Rashid and Mujeeb havent played a test yet.

    This is a bit of a OTT statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat_Track_Bully View Post
    Worse attitude than BDers.
    Leave your boring and childish attitude first of bringing Bangladesh everywhere irrevently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Well running down a bowling pair who have close to 500 test wickets at 25 isnt very wise. Add to that Kuldeep Yadav.

    Rashid and Mujeeb havent played a test yet.

    This is a bit of a OTT statement.
    I think the same here.It only reflects the immaturity of Afgan captain and players.With time they will learn to control their tongue. It will be really embarrassing if their spinners are rolled over by the Indians.Ashwin and Jadeja are proven spinners with wonderful track record.I shall compare Afgan spinners after at least 15 tests.

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    Well there's nothing wrong with a bit of confidence if even the statement is misguided.

    The captain's not exactly gonna say on the eve of his nation's debut Test that the opposition is better in every way and are expecting a thrashing.

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    Want to see how they do against top international teams before going OTT with praise.

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    Little too much Chest Thumping for a player who has not played a Test Match ...... Yet !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainul View Post
    Leave your boring and childish attitude first of bringing Bangladesh everywhere irrevently.
    At least he's being an equal opportunity basher

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Well running down a bowling pair who have close to 500 test wickets at 25 isnt very wise. Add to that Kuldeep Yadav.

    Rashid and Mujeeb havent played a test yet.

    This is a bit of a OTT statement.
    Geography is all you need to know not to expect better. Big talk...its an asian thing. Why? Because its easier than actually doing the work, lol. Afghans, Bangladeshis, Pakistanis, and Indians all like to talk. Its in our Asian genes, bruv. Remember Afghans in 2009 said their pace attack was "already superior to India's" or something like that. At least they're sticking to their spinners now.

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    Afgan captain will think century times in future against any team before making such comment.Indian batsmen are playing their spinners for fun now.

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    Our boys manhandled the Best spinners in the 1st session like bashing some Gully bowlers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    I like Rashid, but he is very overrated and will get exposed here.
    Looks like I will be right here

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    In time you will know what itís like to lose. To feel so desperately that youíre right, yet to fail nonetheless.


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    Annihilation - rashid and mujeeb went for 7 an over.

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    Lmao of afghani captain

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Well running down a bowling pair who have close to 500 test wickets at 25 isnt very wise. Add to that Kuldeep Yadav.

    Rashid and Mujeeb havent played a test yet.

    This is a bit of a OTT statement.
    A bit of an OTT?
    That's border line disrespectful, I'd say.

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    In T20 they might have slightly better spinners than us but test is a different format as we are seeing.. The more their spinners play the better they would get but right now they are not upto the mark..

    Some people in this thread actually believed it.. Hopeully they now understand T20 and tests are a different ball game.

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    Best spinners in the world getting smashed at over 6 an over by us. Welcome to test cricket lads! Hopefully you will be able to compete with BD in a few years in this format .

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    Turns out that talk is cheap.


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    Should not have been given test status.

    Revoke BD and Afghanistan test status.

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    Told ya. But I have no problem in Afghani's statement. We want some competition and spiciness in the game.There wont be no fun if you praise the opposition all the time.

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    People need to relax.

    This is just the beginning for test cricket in Afghanistan. They have a long way to go.

    And it's not even a given that they will focus on test cricket going forward. I cannot imagine test cricket has many fans in Afghanistan. They just got introduced to test cricket and the Afghan fans I know find test cricket very boring. So Let's see. I don't think they will play more then 2-3 test matches pr. year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat_Track_Bully View Post
    Should not have been given test status.

    Revoke BD and Afghanistan test status.

    Why? There would be two group of rivalries:

    India-Eng-SA-Aus

    And

    BD-Zim-Afghanistan-WI-SL will be a very intense rivalry in test cricket over next 5-10 years..


    Both this set of rivalries would be really great and close series..

    Pakistan and NZ will be in middle of these two rivalries, they can give top teams competition as seen in England or lose to SL.. So they are basically floater teams..

    The second bunch should play a lot of matches between each other and try and grow as test teams.. With occasional series against top teams thrown in between..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Best spinners in the world getting smashed at over 6 an over by us. Welcome to test cricket lads! Hopefully you will be able to compete with BD in a few years in this format .

    India played the first Test match in 1932. India won their first Test match in 1952. India’s first Test win away from home was in 1968. #IndvAfg


    I am sure Afghanistan will do better then this.


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    Afghanistan totally misread the conditions. They need 3 fast bowlers and 1 spinner.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thelandofthebravepeople View Post

    India played the first Test match in 1932. India won their first Test match in 1952. India’s first Test win away from home was in 1968. #IndvAfg


    I am sure Afghanistan will do better then this.
    I don't think so. I don't think Aghanistsn will ever become a proper test playing nation. No offence but as long as you don't have your own credible FC system , you will never reach that level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thelandofthebravepeople View Post

    India played the first Test match in 1932. India won their first Test match in 1952. Indiaís first Test win away from home was in 1968. #IndvAfg


    I am sure Afghanistan will do better then this.
    This.

    And not to forget that up to 1947, Pakistan and Bangladesh were also India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thelandofthebravepeople View Post
    Afghanistan totally misread the conditions. They need 3 fast bowlers and 1 spinner.


    Do they have quality fast bowlers who are fit enough to bowl 20+ overs per day at top intensity?

    It’s difficult for Afghanistan it fast bowlers who aren’t used to playing tests to maintain fitness levels after first spell.. So if they don’t have such bowlers then it makes sense to play spinners.. It’s your first test so you are bound to make mistakes and learn from them..

    Afghanistan cricket board if they are serious about test cricket should organise series against BD, Ireland, Zimbabwe, SL, WI in next 3 years they should play 2 series against each of these teams.. Only then will they grow and interest in cricket/tests will increase back home..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    I don't think so. I don't think Aghanistsn will ever become a proper test playing nation. No offence but as long as you don't have your own credible FC system , you will never reach that level.
    That's a pretty dumb statement. You never know how things will look in 1-2 year, 5-10 years or 50-100 years.

    And to magnifiy your stupidity:

    Afghanistan's multi-day tournament initially began as a three-day competition before moving to a four-day structure in 2014, now known as the Ahmad Shah Abdali tournament, with five regional teams competing - Amo, Band-e-Amir, Boost, Mis Ainak and Speen Ghar. A sixth team, Kabul Green, joined the competition in 2016. The teams play each other twice before the two sides at the top of the table play for the end of season championship. The competition runs from September through December.[4][5] In February 2017 the International Cricket Council (ICC) awarded first-class status to Afghanistan's four-day domestic competition.[6]
    http://www.espncricinfo.com/cricket/...ay-tournament/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_...day_Tournament


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    Quote Originally Posted by thelandofthebravepeople View Post
    That's a pretty dumb statement. You never know how things will look in 1-2 year, 5-10 years or 50-100 years.

    And to magnifiy your stupidity:



    http://www.espncricinfo.com/cricket/...ay-tournament/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_...day_Tournament
    And? Afghanistan as a nation may not have a future considering the political instability there so why would your cricket be an exception? Apart from your players throwing around big words, it's very unlikely they would accomplish anything in this format. Of course, I could be wrong as nobody can see the future but the chances of Afghanistan ever being a top test or even ODI nation is very low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_gamer007 View Post
    Do they have quality fast bowlers who are fit enough to bowl 20+ overs per day at top intensity?

    It’s difficult for Afghanistan it fast bowlers who aren’t used to playing tests to maintain fitness levels after first spell.. So if they don’t have such bowlers then it makes sense to play spinners.. It’s your first test so you are bound to make mistakes and learn from them..

    Afghanistan cricket board if they are serious about test cricket should organise series against BD, Ireland, Zimbabwe, SL, WI in next 3 years they should play 2 series against each of these teams.. Only then will they grow and interest in cricket/tests will increase back home..
    Yamin who got the wicket is the most experienced. New ones are difficult to spot.

    Dawlat Zadran is the most experienced and premiere fast bowler for Afghanistan. He is injured and recently lost his brother in traffic accident.

    Wafadar seems to have potentiel. Good hight. Build some muscle and increase pace by 10 km/h. I saw him bowl few balls at 140km/h+.

    The most important thing is wheather upcoming talent will focus on test or not. We all know T20 pays much better and requires less work. All these guys coming from poor backgrounds and there is no test legacy Afghanistan need to protect or live up to.


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    Rashid & Mujeeb (Nabi as well), are very good spinners when they are attacked - thatís T20 & to an extent ODI cricket. But, Test cricket needs equal bowling dissiplaine for bowlers also like batting to choke runs & restrict batsmen in their comfort zone, which itself is the biggest challenge than the bowling skills only. Lots of spinners can turn it big & can bowl unplayable balls, but it wonít work much if he keeps feeding couple of loose one in between. I am sure Rashid has bowled few good ones as well, but here batsmen can wait for him to falter.

    I always say, my interest to study Test cricket started from one puzzle - they are putting 7 men in catching position leaving entire field open, still why batsmen shoulder arming or playing defensive shots - certainly from Walshi to Viv, everyone canít be coward or incapable!!!! Bowling leg spin effectively (& using new ball), are probably the toughest bowling challenge in Test cricket (overall cricket).

    I think, the statement of Afghan Captain exposes his lack of experience in the longer format, rather than arrogance or running mouth. The spin trio are really good with their variation in shorter games when batsmen are forced to go at 6 to 10/over; but the equation reverses when batsmen can wait for couple of overs to pick just 2 balls and place it in gap.

    Also, in LO, bowling tactics is simple, single dimensional, one can plan to stop scoring and that works, add some variation, itís almost commanding; in Test itís a balance between attack & defense, and focus for 25+ overs - thatís why a 5for in Innings is considered better than a Century and a 10for game is the highest individual accolade of a Test match (it's like a pair of hundred in a game).

    More than bowling, I would like to see AFG batting - how they react facing 700 total on what is an absolutely perfect batting strip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    And? Afghanistan as a nation may not have a future considering the political instability there so why would your cricket be an exception? Apart from your players throwing around big words, it's very unlikely they would accomplish anything in this format. Of course, I could be wrong as nobody can see the future but the chances of Afghanistan ever being a top test or even ODI nation is very low.
    Who knows maybe a meteor will hit India? How are you so confident about your future?

    And besides these guys were playing division five 10 years ago. They lost to Singapoor in division 5.

    Now look where they are. Playing test cricket. Among the 10 best ODI nations. 8th ranked in T20.

    And here you are running your mouth after 1 day in test cricket.

    What have you archieved in your life?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Rashid & Mujeeb (Nabi as well), are very good spinners when they are attacked - thatís T20 & to an extent ODI cricket. But, Test cricket needs equal bowling dissiplaine for bowlers also like batting to choke runs & restrict batsmen in their comfort zone, which itself is the biggest challenge than the bowling skills only. Lots of spinners can turn it big & can bowl unplayable balls, but it wonít work much if he keeps feeding couple of loose one in between. I am sure Rashid has bowled few good ones as well, but here batsmen can wait for him to falter.

    I always say, my interest to study Test cricket started from one puzzle - they are putting 7 men in catching position leaving entire field open, still why batsmen shoulder arming or playing defensive shots - certainly from Walshi to Viv, everyone canít be coward or incapable!!!! Bowling leg spin effectively (& using new ball), are probably the toughest bowling challenge in Test cricket (overall cricket).

    I think, the statement of Afghan Captain exposes his lack of experience in the longer format, rather than arrogance or running mouth. The spin trio are really good with their variation in shorter games when batsmen are forced to go at 6 to 10/over; but the equation reverses when batsmen can wait for couple of overs to pick just 2 balls and place it in gap.

    Also, in LO, bowling tactics is simple, single dimensional, one can plan to stop scoring and that works, add some variation, itís almost commanding; in Test itís a balance between attack & defense, and focus for 25+ overs - thatís why a 5for in Innings is considered better than a Century and a 10for game is the highest individual accolade of a Test match (it's like a pair of hundred in a game).

    More than bowling, I would like to see AFG batting - how they react facing 700 total on what is an absolutely perfect batting strip.
    I also don't think it was arrogance. Don't think he have even watched as many fc games as some of Indian spinners have played.

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    Afghanistan needs to develop 3-4 really good test spinners and invite the likes of WI and England to play on handcrafted minefield in Dehradun. That should do the trick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thelandofthebravepeople View Post
    Who knows maybe a meteor will hit India? How are you so confident about your future?

    And besides these guys were playing division five 10 years ago. They lost to Singapoor in division 5.

    Now look where they are. Playing test cricket. Among the 10 best ODI nations. 8th ranked in T20.

    And here you are running your mouth after 1 day in test cricket.

    What have you archieved in your life?
    So achieving "something" in life is prerequisite to state opinion on a online forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JattMaula View Post
    So achieving "something" in life is prerequisite to state opinion on a online forum?
    I thought he must be super achiever and things must come easy for him in life.

    Since he is passing judgement and writing off Afghanistan test future after 2 sessions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JattMaula View Post
    I also don't think it was arrogance. Don't think he have even watched as many fc games as some of Indian spinners have played.
    After spending 2/3 hours everyday in PP, most posters were convinced that Afghans have overtaken Bangladesh as a cricket nation because they won 3 T20 on a wicket that perfectly suits their attack and a ground size that fits their cross batted swings, so you canít blame the guy actually.

    Itís really, really, really difficult to close the gap in cricket (any skill based game) when the duration is longer, because 11 players come into equation and every facet of the game needs to be explored, more importantly better teams can make a come back - couple of overs either with bat or ball wonít win you a Test.

    In other sports as well, youíll hardly see major upsets in Tennis grand slams (because of 5 sets), or Snooker World championships (because it starts with 17 frames). In soccers, despite being the global game only 8 teams have won WC & 3 have won 13 out of 20 - the reason is simple, not many country can send a squad for 6/7 games in 5 weeks. Make soccer game for 45 minutes, instead of 90, Brazil or Germany would produce regular surprises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    After spending 2/3 hours everyday in PP, most posters were convinced that Afghans have overtaken Bangladesh as a cricket nation because they won 3 T20 on a wicket that perfectly suits their attack and a ground size that fits their cross batted swings, so you canít blame the guy actually.

    Itís really, really, really difficult to close the gap in cricket (any skill based game) when the duration is longer, because 11 players come into equation and every facet of the game needs to be explored, more importantly better teams can make a come back - couple of overs either with bat or ball wonít win you a Test.

    In other sports as well, youíll hardly see major upsets in Tennis grand slams (because of 5 sets), or Snooker World championships (because it starts with 17 frames). In soccers, despite being the global game only 8 teams have won WC & 3 have won 13 out of 20 - the reason is simple, not many country can send a squad for 6/7 games in 5 weeks. Make soccer game for 45 minutes, instead of 90, Brazil or Germany would produce regular surprises.
    This.
    Afg batters are nowhere near bangladesh batters. Bangladesh have some proper batsman like tamim, shakib, mushi while afg just have a bunch of sloggers.

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    This ongoing Inida-Afghanistan "test" match is a joke of test cricket. Just because Afghanistan has couple of good domestic T20 players , they did not deserve to be given test status. ICC has made test cricket so cheap, a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    After spending 2/3 hours everyday in PP, most posters were convinced that Afghans have overtaken Bangladesh as a cricket nation because they won 3 T20 on a wicket that perfectly suits their attack and a ground size that fits their cross batted swings, so you can’t blame the guy actually.

    It’s really, really, really difficult to close the gap in cricket (any skill based game) when the duration is longer, because 11 players come into equation and every facet of the game needs to be explored, more importantly better teams can make a come back - couple of overs either with bat or ball won’t win you a Test.

    In other sports as well, you’ll hardly see major upsets in Tennis grand slams (because of 5 sets), or Snooker World championships (because it starts with 17 frames). In soccers, despite being the global game only 8 teams have won WC & 3 have won 13 out of 20 - the reason is simple, not many country can send a squad for 6/7 games in 5 weeks. Make soccer game for 45 minutes, instead of 90, Brazil or Germany would produce regular surprises.
    After playing tests for 17 years, BD were equally humiliated in their first test in India ast year. Unless BD and Afghanistan play a full series, there is now way to know where they stand against each other. My sense is
    T20s - AFG >> BD
    ODIs - BD > AFG
    Tests - BD=AFG (If BD prepare turning tracks, on flat tracks, BD>AFG)

    BD should invite Afghans for a full series soon to take revenge for the 0-3 thrashing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thelandofthebravepeople View Post
    Who knows maybe a meteor will hit India? How are you so confident about your future?

    And besides these guys were playing division five 10 years ago. They lost to Singapoor in division 5.

    Now look where they are. Playing test cricket. Among the 10 best ODI nations. 8th ranked in T20.

    And here you are running your mouth after 1 day in test cricket.

    What have you archieved in your life?
    And you were so confidently predicting that Afghanistan would do better than other teams in test cricket based on what? Calm down . It basically comes down to your call against mine about the future of Afghanistan cricket. Time will tell who is right. No need to get so defensive about your cricket team . When your captain can go about bragging about your spinners being better than ours and the said spinners get smashed at 6 an over you will get flak for it. Afghanistan don't belong in test cricket based on the evidence so far compared to the debuts of BD and Ireland, they are getting smashed here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketindiafan View Post
    After playing tests for 17 years, BD were equally humiliated in their first test in India ast year. Unless BD and Afghanistan play a full series, there is now way to know where they stand against each other. My sense is
    T20s - AFG >> BD
    ODIs - BD > AFG
    Tests - BD=AFG (If BD prepare turning tracks, on flat tracks, BD>AFG)

    BD should invite Afghans for a full series soon to take revenge for the 0-3 thrashing.
    Your sense is wrong if you think taking a Test to 15th session is humiliating and then if you think on a rank turner Afghans are going to beat AUS, ENG & SRL.

    There should be a Test series indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Your sense is wrong if you think taking a Test to 15th session is humiliating and then if you think on a rank turner Afghans are going to beat AUS, ENG & SRL.

    There should be a Test series indeed.
    Give them 15 years as well! No rush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketindiafan View Post
    Give them 15 years as well! No rush.

    Indeed, though your sense in initial post was for now, which is a bit .... you know, otherwise I wonít have bothered to respond. A lot of things can change in 15 years, so no rush.

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    Afghan players are arrogant and they think too highly of themselves.

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    This is the worst spin bowling I have ever seen on Indian soil. School children will have better control. May be it is the nerves of playing the first match, that too against the number one team in the world.

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    Getting tonked at the moment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swashbuckler View Post
    This is the worst spin bowling I have ever seen on Indian soil. School children will have better control. May be it is the nerves of playing the first match, that too against the number one team in the world.
    India should've played their C team to give Afghanistan some chance. This is too much batting for so called 'better spinners than India'...

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    Yeah, they are better than Ashwin and Jadeja. LOL

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    I hope India annihilates Afghanistan..
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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketindiafan View Post
    After playing tests for 17 years, BD were equally humiliated in their first test in India ast year. Unless BD and Afghanistan play a full series, there is now way to know where they stand against each other. My sense is
    T20s - AFG >> BD
    ODIs - BD > AFG
    Tests - BD=AFG (If BD prepare turning tracks, on flat tracks, BD>AFG)

    BD should invite Afghans for a full series soon to take revenge for the 0-3 thrashing.
    We have to see whether Afganistan can take the match to 5th day.Bangladesh at least took the match upto last session against India.I am not saying that BD showed good fight but I don't think the word 'humiliated' is appropriate here for BD.I also agree that BD test side should have been progressed further after 17 years.But recent win againat SRL,Eng,Aus is a sign that they have begin to improve.You are right, until there is a full test and ODI series, noone can say where these two countries lies against each other.After that 3-0 thrashing Afgans will be high in confidence when they face BD.But one thing they should understand that there is huge huge gap between T20 and tests(even between T20 and ODIs)
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    I think people are too harsh against the Afgan brothers here.This is there first test and it's against India in India,very tough opposition.

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    They are hitting good lengths now. Of course, not close to the Indian spinners but they have the right ingredients and would be handy in helpful conditions against WI/Aus/SA/Eng. Thatís like half the cricketing world.

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    AFG is a T20 unit. It will take them time to get used to 5 day cricket but in the mean time they should break their fast with a humble pie after todayís performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post

    So, if Afghanistan have better spinners than our guys should have worse stat in this test then. let's see.
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    People sometimes take casual banter way too seriously. Thankfully the players don't look bothered.

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