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    Adolf Hitler played cricket and tried to change the rules, John Simpson book reveals

    ADOLF Hitler played cricket. He raised his own cricket team to play some British prisoners of war during the First World War, then declared the sport "unmanly" and tried to rewrite the laws of the game.
    The Fuhrer's First XI sounds like a Spike Milligan joke, but this small nugget of history is true. In all the millions of words written about Hitler, his telling brush with cricket seems to have escaped the attention of historians.

    The incident is referred to in John Simpson's new book about 20th-century reporting, citing a piece in the Daily Mirror in 1930. I have the article in front of me. Sandwiched between advice on preventing mildew in chrysanthemums and an advert for Barkers' evening cloaks, it is quite extraordinary, and extraordinarily revealing: about Hitler, the nature of cricket, and why the world's worst tyrant and the world's greatest game were never going to get on.

    The Mirror piece was written by Oliver Locker-Lampson, an MP, decorated wartime veteran, right-wing zealot and fervent admirer of Hitler. It was published under the headline "Adolf Hitler As I Know Him" on September 30, 1930, as the Nazis' brutal rise to power gathered pace.

    In it, Locker-Lampson describes how in 1923, shortly after the Munich putsch, he met some British officers who had been prisoners of war in southern Germany during the First World War. By coincidence Hitler, then a lance corporal in the German Army, was recovering from his wounds in a nearby hospital.

    "He had come to them one day and asked whether he might watch an eleven of cricket at play so as to become initiated into the mysteries of our national game," writes Locker- Lampson. "They welcomed him, of course, and wrote out the rules for him in the best British sport-loving spirit."

    According to Locker-Lampson, Hitler returned a few days later, having assembled his own team, and challenged the British to a "friendly match". As Simpson points out, Locker-Lampson infuriatingly failed to inform his readers who won, but we can assume that the British POWs thrashed Hitler's XI, because he immediately declared the game insufficiently violent for German Fascists.

    Hitler, it seems, had an ulterior motive for wanting to play the game: "He desired to study it as a possible medium for the training of troops off duty and in times of peace." He also wanted the game to be Nazified.

    "He had conned over [sic] the laws of cricket, which he considered good enough no doubt for pleasure-loving English people. But he proposed entirely altering them for the serious-minded Teuton." Specifically, he "advocated the withdrawal of the use of pads. These artificial 'bolsters' he dismissed as unmanly and un-German ...in the end he also recommended a bigger and harder ball."

    Locker-Lampson was not mocking Hitler. Far from it, he regarded Hitler's "essential improvements" to the English game as a mark of his greatness. The British MP was the founder of the Sentinels of Empire, a blue-shirted group of rightwingers dedicated to fighting Bolshevism. Like many upper-class Englishmen (including Lord Rothermere, then the owner of the Mirror) he was besotted by Nazism, and the rest of the article is a dribbling paean of praise to Hitler: "The temperature of the room rises in his presence...He makes the humblest fellow feel twice the man."

    Locker-Lampson reported that Hitler had even devised a new motto for cricket, in German: "Ohne Hast, ohne Rast" - Unhasting, Unresting. To this starry-eyed disciple, Hitler's determination to rewrite the rules of this most hallowed English institution was a mark, not of mad megalomania, but of his ambition and drive: "That is what makes him a legendary hero already."

    From a distance of 80 years, this forgotten incident demonstrates exactly the reverse of what Locker-Lampson intended, offering a small and unexpected window into Hitler's brutal mentality.

    Sport, in Fascist thinking, was merely a tool with which to forge good Nazis. "German sport has only one task," declared Joseph Goebbels: "To strengthen the character of the German people, imbuing it with the fighting spirit and steadfast camaraderie necessary in the struggle for its existence." That twisted attitude would find full expression in the Nazi Olympic Games of 1936.

    Hitler, it seems clear, was simply unable to comprehend a game as subtle and nuanced as cricket. He wanted speed and violence. Not for him the gentle thwack of leather on willow, but rather the crunch of a harder, larger ball against unprotected shins. His rewritten rules for the game attempt to blend cricket and blitzkrieg: blitzkricket.

    If cricket has a motto, it is probably "Play up! Play up! And play the game", from Henry Newbolt's poem Vitai Lampada, which also extols cricketing manliness, but of a very different sort to that lauded by Hitler: "And it's not for the sake of a ribboned coat, Or the selfish hope of a season's fame..."

    Cricket, of course, is the ultimate sporting fusion of mind and body: an intricate set of rules and tactics, involving minute gradations of physics, climate and psychology, requiring the broadest range of athletic ability and good manners. In its classic form, it takes five days, with set intervals for tea, and often produces no result. Try to imagine Hitler enjoying a truly thrilling draw, a totalitarian wrestling with the subtle uncertainties of the lbw law. The word "googly" has no translation.

    The laws of cricket have evolved over time, and continue to evolve, the result of thousands of refinements and adjustments, not through the arrogant decree of one man. That, again, Hitler would have found impossible to grasp.

    For anyone who loves cricket, there is something deeply satisfying in the knowledge that Hitler did not understand the game, and something disquieting in the thought that, had he won the war, we would all be playing without pads.

    Sadly, the scorebook from Hitler's first and only cricket match has not survived. We will never know how much his team lost by, where he batted in the order, and what score he made. But we can certainly speculate. His angry contempt for cricket, his attempt to invade the rules and alter them in his own image, and his inability to comprehend the complexities of the sport all point to one, inescapable conclusion: he was out for a golden duck.

    Hitler has only faced one ball.

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    I heard this through people in Pakistan a while back but that they were joking.

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    Oye uncle played cricket... LOL

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    he was out for a golden duck.

    Hitler has only faced one ball.
    Afridi has 11 more golden ducks than Hitler, just saying.
    Last edited by DeadBall; 11th June 2018 at 21:27.

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    A strong German team would have added another flavour into the game of cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadBall View Post
    Afridi has 11 more golden ducks than Hitler, just saying.
    Don't tell this to Indians.
    Last edited by DeadBall; 11th June 2018 at 21:27.

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    This reminds me of a desi myth that our uncles & fathers loved to tell us about hitler. Once upon a time he was invited to test match in which germany played during WW2 and he was chief guest at the last day. When he asked at the end of day 5 that who won, he was he was told that fuhrer, nobody won it was a draw

    The fuhrer then got enraged and ordered the execution of the whole cricket team & banned cricket forever in germany citing it as time wasting sport for german people & distracting them from their goals as a nation. I am sure most guys on this forum have heard of this once in their life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TQ89 View Post
    This reminds me of a desi myth that our uncles & fathers loved to tell us about hitler. Once upon a time he was invited to test match in which germany played during WW2 and he was chief guest at the last day. When he asked at the end of day 5 that who won, he was he was told that fuhrer, nobody won it was a draw

    The fuhrer then got enraged and ordered the execution of the whole cricket team & banned cricket forever in germany citing it as time wasting sport for german people & distracting them from their goals as a nation. I am sure most guys on this forum have heard of this once in their life.


    Yep


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    Quote Originally Posted by TQ89 View Post
    This reminds me of a desi myth that our uncles & fathers loved to tell us about hitler. Once upon a time he was invited to test match in which germany played during WW2 and he was chief guest at the last day. When he asked at the end of day 5 that who won, he was he was told that fuhrer, nobody won it was a draw

    The fuhrer then got enraged and ordered the execution of the whole cricket team & banned cricket forever in germany citing it as time wasting sport for german people & distracting them from their goals as a nation. I am sure most guys on this forum have heard of this once in their life.
    Some embellish it further, and claim that Germany was a test-playing nation prior to this fateful day. If you were to point out that there's no record of that ever having been the case, the discussion devolves into some variant of "Winners Write History" and the tried and tested Yahoodi Saazish.

    Also, according to this apocryphal story, not only did he have the two teams executed and the sport banned, he had all first class cricketers executed, thus bringing the thriving German first class scene to a sordid end.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostalgic View Post
    Some embellish it further, and claim that Germany was a test-playing nation prior to this fateful day. If you were to point out that there's no record of that ever having been the case, the discussion devolves into some variant of "Winners Write History" and the tried and tested Yahoodi Saazish.

    Also, according to this apocryphal story, not only did he have the two teams executed and the sport banned, he had all first class cricketers executed, thus bringing the thriving German first class scene to a sordid end.
    That is what my uncles say when i say i can't find the match record on google

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    Quote Originally Posted by TQ89 View Post
    This reminds me of a desi myth that our uncles & fathers loved to tell us about hitler. Once upon a time he was invited to test match in which germany played during WW2 and he was chief guest at the last day. When he asked at the end of day 5 that who won, he was he was told that fuhrer, nobody won it was a draw

    The fuhrer then got enraged and ordered the execution of the whole cricket team & banned cricket forever in germany citing it as time wasting sport for german people & distracting them from their goals as a nation. I am sure most guys on this forum have heard of this once in their life.
    Yup, can vouch for this. :ahmed

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    Wow.Unlike most posters on this thread I’ve never heard this story(or any variant).Fascinating..

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    Not to derail the thread, but there are a couple of other apocrypha that frequently get bandied about in Pakistan.

    There's the 1996 ODI between WI and SL, where Sanath Jayasuriya clobbered Curtly Ambrose for six sixes in an over, prompting Ambrose to snatch Jayasuriya's bat from him and smash it on the ground, revealing the steel rods embedded in the willow. This not only explained Jayasuriya's prowess at hitting effortless sixes, but also revealed his record-breaking fifty and hundred against Pakistan earlier in the year to be based on outright cheating. This was actually printed in Urdu newspapers, including a couple of the more respectable ones. The furor died away following Afridi's heroics later in the year.

    And then there's the one from the 2005 Ashes, where, during a lull in proceedings, the commentators discussed Middlesex's desire to sign Jacques Kallis as their overseas pro. The mention of Middlesex and Jacques Kallis in the same sentence led to rumors that Kallis was... less than fully male. There are people who still swear by this, and that they heard it on TV, from English commentators.


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    Buahahahahaha now i see why some pakistanis think that way of jacque.

    When i was on pak vacation in 2006. my cousins would always swear that jacque is a khusra & I would be scratching my head as to who told them this. I would show them google pics of his girlfriend at the time who was some supermodel and they still would not believe me & kept repeating the same. Now i know why. Ufff my face turned red from laughing at finally knowing the reason.

    And yeah remember the jayasuriya one's told a lot by the elder boys when playing gully cricket and the indians hold the same view about ponting's bat in 2003 world cup final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TQ89 View Post
    This reminds me of a desi myth that our uncles & fathers loved to tell us about hitler. Once upon a time he was invited to test match in which germany played during WW2 and he was chief guest at the last day. When he asked at the end of day 5 that who won, he was he was told that fuhrer, nobody won it was a draw

    The fuhrer then got enraged and ordered the execution of the whole cricket team & banned cricket forever in germany citing it as time wasting sport for german people & distracting them from their goals as a nation. I am sure most guys on this forum have heard of this once in their life.
    Yes, my brother has told it loads of time. I wonder what the origin of the myth is, maybe the story at the start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostalgic View Post
    Not to derail the thread, but there are a couple of other apocrypha that frequently get bandied about in Pakistan.

    There's the 1996 ODI between WI and SL, where Sanath Jayasuriya clobbered Curtly Ambrose for six sixes in an over, prompting Ambrose to snatch Jayasuriya's bat from him and smash it on the ground, revealing the steel rods embedded in the willow. This not only explained Jayasuriya's prowess at hitting effortless sixes, but also revealed his record-breaking fifty and hundred against Pakistan earlier in the year to be based on outright cheating. This was actually printed in Urdu newspapers, including a couple of the more respectable ones. The furor died away following Afridi's heroics later in the year.

    And then there's the one from the 2005 Ashes, where, during a lull in proceedings, the commentators discussed Middlesex's desire to sign Jacques Kallis as their overseas pro. The mention of Middlesex and Jacques Kallis in the same sentence led to rumors that Kallis was... less than fully male. There are people who still swear by this, and that they heard it on TV, from English commentators.
    Oh so this was the reason behind Kallis thing. My friends use to tell me this and this has become such a common myth in Pakistan that even I started doubting Kallis.

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    On my last visit to in 2013, I was told by an adult female cousin on how the Indians had written the name Muhammad "on the ground" as a way to insult Muslims in an India vs. Pakistan cricket game.

    Later on, I saw a post circulating on my Pakistani relatives' FB which showed the name Muhammad "on the ground" and realized it was just an info graphic screen for Muhammad Amir's name as he was the one bowling at the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostalgic View Post
    Not to derail the thread, but there are a couple of other apocrypha that frequently get bandied about in Pakistan.

    There's the 1996 ODI between WI and SL, where Sanath Jayasuriya clobbered Curtly Ambrose for six sixes in an over, prompting Ambrose to snatch Jayasuriya's bat from him and smash it on the ground, revealing the steel rods embedded in the willow. This not only explained Jayasuriya's prowess at hitting effortless sixes, but also revealed his record-breaking fifty and hundred against Pakistan earlier in the year to be based on outright cheating. This was actually printed in Urdu newspapers, including a couple of the more respectable ones. The furor died away following Afridi's heroics later in the year.

    .
    This is an interesting one, as it would have been a great matchup if WI did not choke against the Aussies and Ambrose actually bowled to Jayasuriya in the final. There is a good chance he would have fared not as well as he did vs India and England. Ambrose is one bowler who was hard to hit off.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongHorn View Post
    This is an interesting one, as it would have been a great matchup if WI did not choke against the Aussies and Ambrose actually bowled to Jayasuriya in the final. There is a good chance he would have fared not as well as he did vs India and England. Ambrose is one bowler who was hard to hit off.....
    It was supposedly an ODI in 1996, not a 1996 World Cup match. Besides, his record 50 and 100 happened after the World Cup, in Singapore, so this mythical SL-WI match happened after the World Cup, but before the Kenya tournament where Afridi avenged us and restored our honor.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TQ89 View Post
    This reminds me of a desi myth that our uncles & fathers loved to tell us about hitler. Once upon a time he was invited to test match in which germany played during WW2 and he was chief guest at the last day. When he asked at the end of day 5 that who won, he was he was told that fuhrer, nobody won it was a draw

    The fuhrer then got enraged and ordered the execution of the whole cricket team & banned cricket forever in germany citing it as time wasting sport for german people & distracting them from their goals as a nation. I am sure most guys on this forum have heard of this once in their life.

    Lol I believed this till 5-6 years ago

    Though in the version told to me there were no executions


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