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    Are Russia really that good or is this a FLUKE?

    Taking our cricket terminology over to the World Cup...

    Russian progress due to a fluke or are they actual contenders for the title?


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    No I think they fully deserved to be in QF. A very organised team with a few quality players who are very well drilled and motivated playing at home.

    The home crowd has helped them with great support.

    If they face Croatia next who are far more direct than Spain, they will prob go out.


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    Spain played right into Russia's strength. We all know they'll play negatively and will look to counter-attack any dispossession. Lack of creativity and penetrative passes turned out to be the downfall of Spain.

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    It was a fluke. They parked the bus for 120 minutes and then got lucky on penalties. They don't have the talent to qin the world cup, the farthest they might get are the semis.


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    They are an average side but they deserve to be in the QF

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    Well earned QF spot.

    Not fancied before the tournament but have expertly absorbed various pressures. Did the required job in the group stage and tactically blunted Spain today.

    Also you don’t get “lucky” in penalty shootouts - shootouts are won with spirit, teamwork and skill.

    Unlikely to win the tournament but you never know, and it always adds a bit of something to a World Cup when the host nation does well.

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    Or are Spain just horrible? I think this option.

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    Spain needs this tika tika system to go, absoutely painful to watch.

    Russia deserved the win

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    I won't say fluke, but few factors went in their favor.

    First, in International soccer, home advantage is quite a big factor - when 60-70K fans are cheering for you, it really makes a difference. In WC, hosts prepare for 2/3 years at home condition, which is a big plus. Russia isn't a great creative side, but they are a decent European side with very good organization - today, they came to defend and to their credit they equalized, albeit from a penalty. However, Spain failed to score in 120 overs from open play - their only goal was an own goal from a set piece. That Coaching changeover ultimately cost them a WC QF at least. I don't think Hierro had the preparation time to replace Laputegi, neither he had the maturity for such a job suddenly, and the players didn't hide that.

    Another issue I feel is teams have found a way to counter tiki-taka. Possession is good, but it doesn't help much keeping 75% possession with a series of short, accurate squire passes, unless it ends to a shot or header at the goal. These days, teams are allowing Spain to keep possession, but they are over crowding the attacking 3rd and passing time by keeping ball at Spain's feet. When required, instead of slow build-up with may be 20 passes, teams are attacking Spain with 2/3 long passes and covering lots of distance in much lesser time. Del Bosque's Spain was a treat to watch because they had skilled players, but speed as well - Torres, Villa, Iniesta, Pedro, Silva, Navas, Mata, Iniesta, Cesc were much younger and faster; along with possession, they could press hard and hit on counters; because their mid-field could produce deadly through balls and could run with the ball as well.

    Today, I felt it's like a practice session - a set of Spanish forwards were perfecting passing between themselves. They failed to beat Portugal, Morocco and Russia in 90 minutes, and was hard pressed by Iran in 2nd half. The day they get their nose ahead with couple of early goals, they might kill some team (recently beat Argentina 6-0), but most days organized teams will frustrate them. Not enough to win the Cup I think - 2nd round or SF exit doesn't matter much for a side that is playing for the ultimate price and started WC as joint 3rd or 4th favorite.

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    Home crowd is like having an extra player. If this Russia team played a tournament in another country they would be knocked out in the first round.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Taking our cricket terminology over to the World Cup...

    Russian progress due to a fluke or are they actual contenders for the title?

    In general I love Russia.
    The Russian people are very friendly, hospitable, generous and most importantly they are honest.

    I’m used to hearing a lot of negative comments about Russia, but most of it is not true or grossly exaggerated.

    Russian food in general is not my favourite. It’s basically sweet, sour, salt and fat with their favourite herb “dill”. I used to like dille, but I can’t stand it anymore.
    And meat and vegetables should not suspended in gelatine!
    I`ve just come back from a Trans-Siberian Railway Tour and should say this is the best way to know this country better coz you cover 7865 km for 14days and see practically half of Russia in one tour!

    Other than that Russians lead a pretty normal life… you would almost think they’re human
    Last edited by Abdullah719; 19th July 2018 at 12:13.

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    They did well and surpassed expectations but I don't see them replicating this in Qatar.......if they even make it.


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