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    What has happened to Hasan Ali recently?

    Still world-class, but not looking anywhere near as threatening these days.

    Is it just T20s are not for him?

    Not a knee jerk or anything. Just want to know if anyone else has noticed this as well.


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    You can’t expect him to have Champions trophy type performance in every tournament.. All bowlers go through the same phase they have some exceptional tournaments and some mediocre ones.. As long as he keeps working hard and the bowling coaches work on his issues he should be fine and Pakistan will have a very good bowler for next 6-7 years..

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    Looks off color.Maybe in some bad form.

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    I think after playing test matches his line and length for t20 format is not right. He'll be back no doubt

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    Too much cake.


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    His purple patch is over, and it was inevitable. He was not going to keep up his 2017 form unless he is the best Limited Overs pacer ever, which he clearly is not.

    It is time for him to cut down on that fake attitude and get over that cringeworthy celebration. He is still a very good bowler but needs to work more.

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    He needs to develop some variations. Hardly ever bowls any change ups.

    He needs some movement off pitch to be threatening. And if it doesn't move, he doesn't have plan b.

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    too much distractions of field.

    The best part about him was his bowling intelligence recently has been just running in and bowling also does not need to play every game exhaustion creeps in.

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    Ive only recently joined, but wth is up with this guy Mamoon. Like mate theres no need to criticize every player so much for their mistakes. If you think its so easy to do what their doing, then become a cricketer rather than sitting behind your screen and complaining.

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    Fame is getting to his head.

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    ODIs are where he rules the roost.

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    He has attitude problems, needs to get back to earth and focus on his performance.

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    He needs to fix up him tude. He can't get big headed just yet, the world cup is on the horizon and also a lot of big tours so he needs to remain focused and keep working hard. But maybe its also fatigue, he's come from quite a series against Eng and Ire. Maybe he could use a break like several players in the squad.

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    Hasan and Amir are tournament players. They will deliver when needed. Bilaterals don't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat_Track_Bully View Post
    Hasan and Amir are tournament players. They will deliver when needed. Bilaterals don't matter.
    How about trilaterals? Do they matter?

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    Limited overs is tough for bowlers He can’t be expected to pull out match winning spells every game There will be times he like most will be expensive and ineffective


    If pakistan cricket is to move forward they need to stop going back

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    Fast bowlers playing all 3 formats will obviously look a bit jaded from time to time. Besides it's T20 cricket. No bowler can consistently give world class performances. Even the best get smacked around. Nothing to worry about.


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    He's going through a rough patch. Don't think it's anything to do with his attitude. That's how fast bowlers are. Also T20s isn't an easy format for bowlers.

    He'll bounce back.

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    Bad performance from him again today. UKS was dropped for him, clearlry on reputation and nothing else.

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    Whats happening to him happens to everyone. You come into the international game and perform well as you have good skills. Opposition then studies you and works you out in couple of seasons. But world class players will adjust to this find new skills and find ways to perform again. While ordinary players will fail to do that and disappear. So its nothing to worry about yet.

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    Also he must concentrate on his game now.

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    He has a good outswinger and pakistan should utilise him with the new ball .
    Dont treat him as a death overs specialist .
    The problem for him in t20s is there are no middle overs.
    Opening with Fahim is a defensive move regardless .

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    He looks too arrogant and show off. Unless he humble and work on his bowling he will be deteriorate more.

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    Def he’s not in the same form as he was.

    He was so accurate before. That’s what happens when you play a diet of too many 20/20s.
    He needs to work on the Yorker in that format.

    However He will come back when we start playing more ODIs again.

    Class is permanent and he has plenty of that. He was player of the tournament for a reason last year.

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    Need to work hard

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    He needs to be given rest in this ODI series. Only play 1 or 2 out of 5 odi matches. Rest him around and keep fresh for the upcoming tough tours

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    Could it be simply that he is having a dip in form?


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    Patience. Every young athlete goes through a learning curve where they're put to the test after putting the world on notice.


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    Don’t think he was bad at all today apart from conceding those two sixes.

    He’s an attacking bowler, he’s bound to get some stick in this format.

    He’s looking in much better rhythm than he was in NZ, it’s just a matter of time before the wickets start to come.

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    He will be back in the ODIs,which is his best format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    Patience. Every young athlete goes through a learning curve where they're put to the test after putting the world on notice.
    Basically this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arham_PakFan View Post
    He will be back in the ODIs,which is his best format.
    Thats a poor excuse. Is he a one format bowler?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Thats a poor excuse. Is he a one format bowler?
    He has never been too good in T20I's.I know he is not in good form.Check my earlier post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arham_PakFan View Post
    He has never been too good in T20I's.I know he is not in good form.Check my earlier post.
    Its not form. Its what @Chief Destroyer said.

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    Just wait for him to get back to his best. Some of you wanted Fakhar dropped when he was going through a lean patch.

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    He's been on/off injured. He got injured again recently so that's my hunch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    He's been on/off injured. He got injured again recently so that's my hunch.
    May be that.

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    he bowled decently today especially his last over was pretty good. He is just fine no need to over react. He has worked very hard to get into the team.

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    How was his pace today? He struggled to keep up the intensity in Test series.May be he has slowed down.

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    Fans are having great expectations from him in every match. which is silly considering It is t20 cricket & bowlers will have bad days in 1or 2 matches of every series.
    I would be worried only if he forgets art of taking wickets or losts yard of pace.


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    He will be back don't worry. Just some bad form but he's still a world class bowler.

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    He has been poor since the NZ tour. Should be dropped for a few games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    He has been poor since the NZ tour. Should be dropped for a few games.
    This is overreaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Whats happening to him happens to everyone. You come into the international game and perform well as you have good skills. Opposition then studies you and works you out in couple of seasons. But world class players will adjust to this find new skills and find ways to perform again. While ordinary players will fail to do that and disappear. So its nothing to worry about yet.
    Agreed, people expect good performances year in year out, yet just like in life, most players' careers go through peaks and valleys.

    It's the truly all time great players who are consistently good, but not everyone is ATG.

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    Dip in form, that's all... he'll be back

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    Hasan Ali's worrying dip in form

    One thing that sort of got ignored through our success in the T20 tri-series was the form of Pakistan's poster boy. Hasan Ali is an important member of our pace arsenal (some say he is our premier bowler) but he looked like an average trundler and was being smashed about by gully mohallah level batsmen. Hasan's dip in form is the only reason that we gave a side like Australia even half a sniff of victory. Had he been the Hasan we know and love, Aus might have had innings defeat in T20s.


    What might have been the reason of Hasan's poor performance. Has he been worked into the ground? Or is it complacency?


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    He is still not fully recovered from the injury he suffered before the PSL.

    He played T20 series against the WI, England Test series along with Ireland, T20's against Scotland and now started in every T20 in this tournament.

    Not to mention playing in useless T20 and T10 legaues after a loaded first year in international cricket.

    Unfortunately, he will not get a break as the management will force him to play five ODI's like they forced Amir to play two Tests against SL last year.

    PAK management will be risking their Asia Cup chances if they keep this up.


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    Has an economy rate of 8.2 in T20Is which is one of the worst a tad overrated due to his ODI exploits the next phase will determine where his career goes whether he becomes a great bowler or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    One thing that sort of got ignored through our success in the T20 tri-series was the form of Pakistan's poster boy. Hasan Ali is an important member of our pace arsenal (some say he is our premier bowler) but he looked like an average trundler and was being smashed about by gully mohallah level batsmen. Hasan's dip in form is the only reason that we gave a side like Australia even half a sniff of victory. Had he been the Hasan we know and love, Aus might have had innings defeat in T20s.


    What might have been the reason of Hasan's poor performance. Has he been worked into the ground? Or is it complacency?
    He is allowed to have a bad series. I don't understand why you always say when a player doesn't perform it's due being arrogant or complacency. Players can have periods of bad form.

    Hassan Ali will be back. He's still a young player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    Still world-class, but not looking anywhere near as threatening these days.

    Is it just T20s are not for him?

    Not a knee jerk or anything. Just want to know if anyone else has noticed this as well.
    Curious if one could track his T20 form historically? Was he ever that good in this format? ODIs is another game...

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    Quote Originally Posted by New Yorker View Post
    Curious if one could track his T20 form historically? Was he ever that good in this format? ODIs is another game...
    He was never as potent in T20's as he was in ODI's...

    It is just that people are so used to seeing him in ODI form that they expect the same in T20's.

    If a healthy Hasan Ali fails on the regular in ODI's than I will be worried.


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    They're T20s, it happens. Boult has gone for over 10 an over in many T20 matches, doesn't mean he's a bad ODI and test bowler.

    And tbh he was never really very good in T20s anyways, ODIs are his best format as of now. Tests can be his best once he gets more experience.


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    Maybe he shouldn't play T20Is at all then, asides from the WT20?

    Amir, Shaheen, Shinwari, Rumman, and even Sameen Gul can do the job just as well in T20Is.


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    Fame has gotten to his head should be dropped and replaced by Sohail tanvir. People will then be happy. Honestly people have no patience what so ever here.

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    He's warrant to a bad series now and then. With that being said he will likely comeback from this.

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    Every player goes through a hot stretch and a cold stretch...

    Hasan Ali currently sports a 22.70 average in T20 which is pretty good. I'm not concerned.

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    Wasn't great in the Headingley Test match either.

    I wouldn't worry right now as every young bowler will go through a blip. He wasn't bowling the right lengths in the tri series, but in T20s a bowler must expect he will receive a thrashing at some point.

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    Nothing
    He is as good as he was(Fullstop)


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    Teams watch a lot of footage and batsmen will have set plans against him. So may not be as effective as he was a year ago.

    He is still a very good bowler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    His purple patch is over, and it was inevitable. He was not going to keep up his 2017 form unless he is the best Limited Overs pacer ever, which he clearly is not.

    It is time for him to cut down on that fake attitude and get over that cringeworthy celebration. He is still a very good bowler but needs to work more.
    Why are you so angry when you're wrong lol.

    You wait for players failures to stick it in their faces.

    Are you still upset we won the CT because of how much it hurt your ego?

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    Still our best bowler in odis. PCB and inzimam need to start rotation programs asap otherwise our fast bowlers will be injured before world cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mastersaan10 View Post
    Still our best bowler in odis. PCB and inzimam need to start rotation programs asap otherwise our fast bowlers will be injured before world cup.
    Alhumdulilah look at our bowling strength:

    Muhammad Amir
    Hasan Ali
    Muhammad Abbas
    Junaid Khan
    Usman Shinwari
    Shaheen Afridi
    Ruman Raees


    Anyone of those bowlers could walk in the LOI side of most other nations and be their best bowler. Not to forget we have Fahim Ashraf a handy 5th bowling option who has a knack of picking up wickets.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Not to forget we have Fahim Ashraf a handy 5th bowling option who has a knack of picking up wickets.
    Faheem would be the 2nd best bowler for most LOI teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    Still world-class, but not looking anywhere near as threatening these days.

    Is it just T20s are not for him?

    Not a knee jerk or anything. Just want to know if anyone else has noticed this as well.
    Yes the thing is he is an attacking bowler unlike many others in the international circuit and this can be bit of a problem in T20s.

    However, in Tests he is improving and in ODIs there is nothing to worry about as well. His line length and that late tail back in with a bit older bowl are still there.

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    His aggressive style of bowling is more suited to ODIs and Tests, where batsmen have everything to lose. However, it doesnt mean he cant improve in T20s. He will with time.

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    The hiding he got from Asif in the PSL finals MIGHT have rattled his confidence just a bit.

    But I don't think it's anything to worry about. He will forget that soon and be back to his usual best.

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    The honeymoon period was bound to end, but he's still up there as one of the best going around. I just worry he might be buying his hype too much.

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    TBH nothing has really happened to him. The difference is he is getting tonked easily and more and not enough wickets. Hasan Ali is a risk taking attacking bowler, unlike Amir he doesn't resort to harmless outside the offstump back of a length zulfiqar babar type bowling with the new ball in the hope of being economical, he takes risks by putting the ball in that hittable zone where he will either get tonked but will also maximize his chances of picking up wickets.

    What the PCB really need to be mindful and careful off is monitoring his workload and keeping him injury free. They definitely need to clamp down on his T-20 leagues and should even provide him compensation on lost income.

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    Needs a breather

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    Hasan Ali will be a very good Test and T20 bowler.

    But he is overrated in ODIs. He should be third pacer and bat at #8 as an all-rounder. Great hitting talent.

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    Stardom strikes


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    Nothing gave you two wickets your captain doesn't wanna attack what else he can do..

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    He went to Wagah and left all his mojo there in that stunt!!

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    He's off form so drop him. Bring him back when he's had a rest and time to rediscover his form and desire.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Hasan Ali will be a very good Test and T20 bowler.

    But he is overrated in ODIs. He should be third pacer and bat at #8 as an all-rounder. Great hitting talent.
    Don't think he has stamina and fitness to be a Test bowler.Struggled massively in the second test in England itself.

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    He lost his mojo at Wagah Border.

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    He improved his fitness and bowling went down the drain. Looks very ordinary.

    He needs to turn it around soon.

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    Amir, Hasan and Shadab are letting the success get to their heads. It might seem harmless but constantly advertising their hairstyles on Twitter is a symptom of a growing ego.

    Still very good bowlers but someone needs to talk to them and bring them back down to earth.

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    I think his main focus is on style social media advertisements perhaps he acting like hollywood star he should come back on earth and bring his focus back on cricket or may be watch how bhuvi and bumrah are sucess

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    What you see now is the real Hassan Ali. A lot of players shine in their first year. People who sustain that form are champs. The novelty that Hassan had is over. Nothing more than a mediocre or at best, above average bowler at times.


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