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    Do you believe that the Pakistan General Elections will be held in a fair manner?

    We are already hearing noise from certain quarters about the integrity of these elections but do you believe that the Pakistan General Elections be held in a fair manner?


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    Shadow of 'engineering' hangs over Pakistan election (Al Jazeera Article)

    Good article from Al Jazeera which is worth reading (https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/fe...221809868.html)

    Shadow of 'engineering' hangs over Pakistan election

    16 Jul 2018

    Mastung, Pakistan - Surrounded by the arid mountains of the Chiltan range, Aslam Raisani's voice rises in anger as he speaks of the political forces aligned against him.

    Pakistan's general election is less than two weeks away, on July 25, and the tribal chief and political leader from the impoverished southwestern Balochistan province says he is facing a playing field tilted by an old enemy.

    "There is an element of pressure going on to divert voters to the candidate that has been fielded by the establishment," he says, using a common euphemism for Pakistan's powerful military and intelligence agencies.

    The military has ruled Pakistan for roughly half of its 70-year history, since independence from the British in 1947, and has been at the centre of allegations of "political engineering" before an election that would see the country's second civilian-to-civilian handover of power.

    In Raisani's rural district of Mastung, he alleges that the military has intimidated voters and offered incentives to switch loyalties, from installing electricity transformers to offering to release relatives allegedly "disappeared" by the intelligence services.

    Aslam Raisani, a tribal chieftain and former chief minister of Balochistan province, says the military is involved in election engineering.

    Pakistan's military denies any involvement in politics, saying it supports the democratic process.

    The military's press wing did not respond to Al Jazeera's request for comment on the allegations that it has influenced the political process in the run-up to the polls.

    But last week, military spokesperson Asif Ghafoor held a press conference to respond to the accusations, saying the military has "no direct role" in the elections.

    He said that 371,388 soldiers and paramilitary personnel would be providing security at more than 85,000 polling stations for the vote.

    Last week, a suicide attack on an election rally in Mastung killed at least 149 people. It was the third such attack in the span of a week, stoking fears of a spike in violence ahead of the polls.

    Raisani's brother, Siraj, a candidate for the rival party that politicians claim is backed by the "establishment", was among those killed in the Mastung explosion.

    Allegations of 'engineering'
    Raisani is the latest politician to allege the military is threatening candidates and voters.

    Nawaz Sharif, the PML-N leader, has named the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) directly as having threatened candidates from his party to switch loyalties.

    The PML-N has been foremost among those raising the allegations after Sharif was removed as prime minister over corruption claims last year. On Friday, Sharif and his daughter Maryam were arrested as they returned to Pakistan from England, having been convicted of corruption a week earlier.

    Sharif's party says the charges are politically motivated, and that the military engineered his removal after pressuring the judiciary, a charge both deny.

    Other parties, too, have alleged misconduct by the military in the run-up to the polls.

    On Tuesday, Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) politician Farhatullah Babar told a press conference that at least three PPP candidates had been threatened by people identifying themselves as military officers.

    'Fabricated election'
    In Balochistan, the Balochistan Awami Party (BAP) is suspected to be the face of the alleged engineering.

    Saeed Ahmed Hashmi, the party's founder, is a diminutive man, but the 69-year-old politician from Quetta, the provincial capital, is said to have the power to bring down governments.

    In March, Hashmi formed BAP, a collection of political leaders who two months earlier had overthrown the PML-N's government in the province through a no-confidence vote.

    It was the third time Hashmi had been involved in the fall of a provincial government.


    Aslam Raisani, right, a tribal chieftain and political leader, speaks to supporters at a meeting in Mastung [Asad Hashim/Al Jazeera]
    Raisani and six other political leaders told Al Jazeera they believed BAP was a front for the military's involvement in the elections.

    "They are threatening people who have votes, to vote for [BAP] candidates [or] to switch loyalties themselves," said Hasil Bizenjo, chief of the National Party (NP), listing members of his party who have received such threats.

    "This is not just a pre-poll rigged election, it is a fabricated election in Balochistan," he alleged.

    BAP went from inception to fielding 58 candidates across the province within weeks. Leaders of other parties say this is evidence the scales were tipped in its favour.

    "Political parties don't just come about in a day, it's a struggle, it takes a long time," says Akhtar Mengal, chief of the Balochistan National Party (BNP). "To make a political party so quickly, to distribute tickets and make office bearers - cinema tickets have not been distributed as quickly as they have done this."

    Mengal said that political allies were being threatened to drop the BNP and back BAP candidates, "or face the consequences".


    Saeed Hashmi, the chief of the Balochistan Awami Party, says other party leaders envy his success.

    Hashmi denies military backing and says his opponents are simply concerned by his party's popularity.

    "Our enemies see our strength and that's why they raise these allegations," he says, adding that he formed the party to unify politicians who reject ethnic nationalism.

    He says the timing of the BAP's revolt against the PML-N, as Sharif's party started openly criticising the military, was unplanned.

    "The timing was coincidence," he says, smoking a cigarette. "We as a group had been looking for a long time to launch a new party."

    The allegations, however, are persistent.

    In Mastung, near Raisani's home, the BAP has taken over a government hospital as a campaign office, in contravention of Pakistan's electoral code.

    Political leaders across the province say it is not the first time BAP candidates have used government resources.

    "Right now, if you go into the bazaar, you will see a few Balochistan Awami Party banners - other than that, these people don't need to do any real work," says Jehanzeb Jamaldini, a senator and BNP leader. "They are fortunate people, a party has been made for them … the money has been arranged for them … the votes have been found for them and will even be deposited in their ballot boxes for them."

    Jehanzeb Jamaldini, a BNP leader and sitting senator, claims party workers have been threatened.

    Jamaldini said his party workers had been threatened in Noshki, Khuzdar, Makran and Chagai districts of Balochistan, and advised to support BAP.

    Sitting in his ancestral home, Raisani is quietly confident.

    "My supporters are quiet. They are going about their business," he says. "They may even go to BAP rallies, but on polling day they will vote for me."

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    Pakistani elections are always like this.


    it's written. an akmal will never be a hero.

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    The ISI is behind everything...I mean they forced Nawaz sharif to buy those Avenfield apartments and take his money outside of the country. I hear the ISI also forced Zardari and his goons to loot the nation during his tenure too. It is also alleged that the ISI with its army of social media warriors, is criticisng Dawn reporters. What we need to do is replace the ISI and the army with the awami tehreek militant group that will man our borders and allow nawaz sharif and the rest to rule for a thousand years.

    I also hear the ISI has recently developed invisible stealth technology that allows them to influence law firms abroad and force them to reveal their tax dodging secrets. The ISI is truly a khala makhlooq..perhaps they are shape shifters from another world?

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    HRCP: 2018 Elections 'dirtiest' in Pakistan's history

    Pretty big assertion to make given the history of rigging in Pakistani politics.
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    Last edited by UN talkz; 17th July 2018 at 11:04.

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    1977 and 1997 say hi


    #MPGA

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    I would recommend to read about 1997 and the 2/3 majority of PMLN while bibi had to sit with 17 seats only. Also read about recent 2013 and 1977 to get the idea what is dirtiest.


    TalentSpotterPk: I pray PanamaLeak sink Sharif ship forever we dont want this pseudo democracy

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    97, 08, 13 say asalamualaikum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minnowbasher View Post
    97, 08, 13 say asalamualaikum
    77 too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minnowbasher View Post
    77 too
    Bhutto was going to win 77 anyway but he wanted to prove a point by taking a massive lead with rigging and from there his fall started.


    TalentSpotterPk: I pray PanamaLeak sink Sharif ship forever we dont want this pseudo democracy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loralai View Post
    Good article from Al Jazeera which is worth reading (https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/fe...221809868.html)
    You are wasting your time with these people. When you see an ostrich with its head in the sand, you let it be.

    Pre-election rigging is already in full-swing, and we all know who is behind it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    You are wasting your time with these people. When you see an ostrich with its head in the sand, you let it be.
    Oh, the irony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    You are wasting your time with these people. When you see an ostrich with its head in the sand, you let it be.

    Pre-election rigging is already in full-swing, and we all know who is behind it.


    PTI candidate who used COAS, CJP's photos on campaign posters allowed to contest polls by LHC
    The Lahore High Court (LHC) on Tuesday gave permission to contest the July 25 elections to a Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) candidate who had used the pictures of the chief justice of Pakistan and the army chief in his campaign advertisements and posters.

    The Elec*tion Commission of ******tan (ECP) had earlier this month disqualified Nasir Cheema, a candidate from Gujranwala's PP-53 constituency, after he was found to have violated the electoral code of conduct by using photos of two heads of institutions on his election posters.

    The lawyer for Cheema, who had challenged the ECP decision in the high court, informed a two-judge bench today that his client had been ruled ineligible to contest the polls over alleged violation of the ECP code of conduct.

    However, he asked why the ECP had disqualified Cheema on the basis of election posters that were put up on April 18, 2018, while the code of conduct had been issued on June 14, and the election schedule was published on May 31.

    The counsel also complained that the person who had filed the complaint against Cheema never personally appeared before the ECP. "The complainant also doesn't belong to the PTI candidate's constituency but is a resident of Karachi," he pointed out.

    The lawyer also asked why the commission had not revealed the specific law under which the candidate was disqualified.

    The LHC should therefore allow Cheema to contest the elections, he maintained.

    After hearing the arguments by the lawyer and ECP legal adviser Imran Arif Ranjha, the LHC bench, comprising Justices Aminuddin Khan and Sajid Mehmood Sethi, ruled that Cheema was eligible to contest the elections.

    The ECP had earlier in July quizzed Cheema over the controversial posters and asked him to submit a reply explaining as to why he should not be disallowed from contesting the polls.

    “Are they related to you? What is the army chief’s and CJP’s link to the elections? On what basis did you put up their pictures?” an infuriated Chief Election Commis*sioner (CEC) Sardar Mohammad Raza Khan had asked the PTI candidate.

    Before Cheema was disqualified, the CEC had emphasised that it was not a question of when the posters had been put on display, but why these images had been put up at all.
    https://www.dawn.com/news/1420639/pt...t-polls-by-lhc
    @Mamoon @LegendInzi

    It seems that this candidate wanted to put out into the open what we already know (that GHQ is orchestrating soft coup through PTI)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loralai View Post
    https://www.dawn.com/news/1420639/pt...t-polls-by-lhc
    @Mamoon @LegendInzi

    It seems that this candidate wanted to put out into the open what we already know (that GHQ is orchestrating soft coup through PTI)
    Can @Mian add the Zaeem Qadri statement about elections being rigged in 2013

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loralai View Post
    https://www.dawn.com/news/1420639/pt...t-polls-by-lhc
    @Mamoon @LegendInzi

    It seems that this candidate wanted to put out into the open what we already know (that GHQ is orchestrating soft coup through PTI)
    More power to GHQ.... I hope their soft coup is successful.


    #Mein inko rolaonga

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Can @Mian add the Zaeem Qadri statement about elections being rigged in 2013
    Here you go bro. If Nooras win election on 25th everything is fine otherwise it's establishment ki saazish you know



    TalentSpotterPk: I pray PanamaLeak sink Sharif ship forever we dont want this pseudo democracy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mian View Post
    Here you go bro. If Nooras win election on 25th everything is fine otherwise it's establishment ki saazish you know

    Just for you my Noora friend @Loralai

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    I think dominant tribes/communities will rig the election which will ultimately benefit the Sharifs.


    "Be the best version of yourself"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Just for you my Noora friend @Loralai
    I am not a PML (N) supporter (I actually support AWP).

    Also, I do not deny that the 2013 election would have been dirty. The same people who are the kingmakers now were the kingmakers then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loralai View Post
    I am not a PML (N) supporter (I actually support AWP).

    Also, I do not deny that the 2013 election would have been dirty. The same people who are the kingmakers now were the kingmakers then.
    Now who is this AWP ?

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    It was rigged in 2013. Why will it be any different now?

    And lol at the Nooras who defended the 2013 elections which they rigged whole heartedly and are now blaming the GHQ for the 2018 elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenstorm View Post
    Now who is this AWP ?
    http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...olitical-arena

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    And if the GHQ is indeed launching a soft coup against the PML-N and PPP via the ballot then I salute them for once again protecting the national interest of Pakistan.

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    I don't care what the outcome of this exercise is.

    However, it's good that the civilian struggle in last few years especially from N-League and PTM has highlighted the ugly maneuverings from military to the Pakistani public as well as to the international media. Not that it will impact much in the short-run, however at least this is coming into the mainstream discussion. The puppeteers and their puppets stand naked in front of the bloody civilians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendInzi View Post
    I don't care what the outcome of this exercise is.

    However, it's good that the civilian struggle in last few years especially from N-League and PTM has highlighted the ugly maneuverings from military to the Pakistani public as well as to the international media. Not that it will impact much in the short-run, however at least this is coming into the mainstream discussion. The puppeteers and their puppets stand naked in front of the bloody civilians.
    Or more like the corrupt are crying for AC's and better beds. And talking about naked, i see the duffers lies on open heart surgery have been exposed, you must feel that you have really been played by the duffer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendInzi View Post
    I don't care what the outcome of this exercise is.

    However, it's good that the civilian struggle in last few years especially from N-League and PTM has highlighted the ugly maneuverings from military to the Pakistani public as well as to the international media. Not that it will impact much in the short-run, however at least this is coming into the mainstream discussion. The puppeteers and their puppets stand naked in front of the bloody civilians.
    Pak fauj Zindabad !

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    Fauji boots over maalshiya of House Sharif/Bhutto any day of the week!


    TalentSpotterPk: I pray PanamaLeak sink Sharif ship forever we dont want this pseudo democracy

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