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    Rana Sanaullah says going to airport to receive Nawaz Sharif is more important than even Hajj!

    I just heard it live will post the video too. WTH man yeh pagal hogae hen kia? Aik mujrim ka isteqbal inke nazdeed Hajj se bera kaam he



    Last edited by Abdullah719; 13th July 2018 at 15:13.


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    Jin ki akal per khuda ne parda daal dia ho, unko koi nahi samjha sakta

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewie View Post
    Jin ki akal per khuda ne parda daal dia ho, unko koi nahi samjha sakta
    True as they say jab dilon per mohren lag jaayen to aankhon per andhera cha jata he kuch dikhai nae deta


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    This isn't naive, affiliation with leader or slip of tongue. Every move from now onward is a deliberate attempt to create chaos and sabotage election.

    I think he was deliberate here, having planned it in his drawing room many days ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by last_knight View Post
    This isn't naive, affiliation with leader or slip of tongue. Every move from now onward is a deliberate attempt to create chaos and sabotage election.

    I think he was deliberate here, having planned it in his drawing room many days ago.
    Rana risking his own life for Nawaz? i don't think so. He is from Faisalabad and we all know it will be hard for him to move around in Faisalabad after this statement


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    Sometimes; I think that these guys are not even Muslims. Which Muslim says this? And then you have the Sharif lying and using words like in shallah, mashallah, Alhamdulillah straight after.

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    Rana is calling for his followers to chill...he's hedging his bets..I predict we will see some ghunda gardi today, maybe tomorrow but then its every man for themselves..

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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Misbah View Post
    Sometimes; I think that these guys are not even Muslims. Which Muslim says this? And then you have the Sharif lying and using words like in shallah, mashallah, Alhamdulillah straight after.
    Expecting noora supporters to even defend this trust me they are going to do this!


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    Those Going To Receive Nawaz Sharif At Airport Are 'Donkeys': Imran Khan

    Link: https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/nawa...n-khan-1882756


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mian View Post
    Expecting noora supporters to even defend this trust me they are going to do this!
    Haha, on social media they first tried to defend this by terming this as 100% fake, then the idiots realized that in this day and age a copy of anything said on the TV is easily available, so thinking of a defense right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by S_haq View Post
    Haha, on social media they first tried to defend this by terming this as 100% fake, then the idiots realized that in this day and age a copy of anything said on the TV is easily available, so thinking of a defense right now
    haha they will find it hard to defend but still they will find a way trust me! derbaris


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    Those Going To Receive Nawaz Sharif At Airport Are 'Donkeys': Imran Khan

    Link: https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/nawa...n-khan-1882756
    calling it like it is, what do you call a person who despite deplorable living conditions is intent on following the person responsible for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    Those Going To Receive Nawaz Sharif At Airport Are 'Donkeys': Imran Khan

    Link: https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/nawa...n-khan-1882756
    Well said by Imran Khan. Even donkey might know right from wrong.


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    Whose in the cult now @Mamoon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mian View Post
    Rana risking his own life for Nawaz? i don't think so. He is from Faisalabad and we all know it will be hard for him to move around in Faisalabad after this statement
    He has gone this rout many a times in his career and no one could harm him. Only purpose was to create chaos and afterwards he would move as the condition demands in coming days. A Mafia doesn't practice religion or social ethics, it acts idiosyncratically to exploit.

    Btw Rana sb convoy was supposed to be in Lhr by 7pm, and More or less 6:30pm was the time of His departure from Fsd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by last_knight View Post
    He has gone this rout many a times in his career and no one could harm him. Only purpose was to create chaos and afterwards he would move as the condition demands in coming days. A Mafia doesn't practice religion or social ethics, it acts idiosyncratically to exploit.

    Btw Rana sb convoy was supposed to be in Lhr by 7pm, and More or less 6:30pm was the time of His departure from Fsd.
    Kinda agree with you but maulvis are already after him after recent episode of khatam e nabuvat. Fsd leadership of PMLN (Rana, Manan, Afzal etc) is divided in many groups not expecting any big convoy from there just hype.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    Those Going To Receive Nawaz Sharif At Airport Are 'Donkeys': Imran Khan

    Link: https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/nawa...n-khan-1882756
    Ironic statement.


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    Well their supporters do act like this including all the liberal ones.

    We know you are corrupt, you rig elections, you buy media houses and journalists, you exploit every institution, you consider yourself KING but we love you Mian sb, you are the only saviour of democracy (despite the fact that you helped to dismiss at least 5 Prime Ministers).

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    Expected from people who sell themsleves for money.

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    Idiotic statement.But Rana sahb has made such senseless statements in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Whose in the cult now @Mamoon
    You and your likes are okay with Imran comparing himself to the Prophet PBUH, so perhaps you should also be fine with this statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    You and your likes are okay with Imran comparing himself to the Prophet PBUH, so perhaps you should also be fine with this statement.
    Abay ohh patwari.... it was your first love Maryam Nawaz who compared herself and her father to Prophet Muhammad PBUH... jo moh mein ata hai bukkay jata hai


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    Tbf to him there may be one thing similar to Hajj, stoning the shaytan at Jamarat . But not what he was thinking I assume


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Abay ohh patwari.... it was your first love Maryam Nawaz who compared herself and her father to Prophet Muhammad PBUH... jo moh mein ata hai bukkay jata hai
    Imran compared himself to the Prophet PBUH. Since you don’t have an issue with him doing so, why do you have a problem with the Sharifs and Rana?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    You and your likes are okay with Imran comparing himself to the Prophet PBUH, so perhaps you should also be fine with this statement.
    You will fit right into PML-N party. Ever thought about joining them.

    Can you post any link or evidence where he compare himself, him saying I’m like prophet PBUH?

    Trying to be like him isn’t same as comparing.

    So please post an evidence or else you’re lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Imran compared himself to the Prophet PBUH. Since you don’t have an issue with him doing so, why do you have a problem with the Sharifs and Rana?
    Come on provide an evidence otherwise you’re a liar and you do not have a better defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    You and your likes are okay with Imran comparing himself to the Prophet PBUH, so perhaps you should also be fine with this statement.
    So if i say i am giving charity like our beloved Prophet, does that mean i am comparing my self to our prophet in a bad way or just following in his footsteps. But back to this, and i take it that you agree, as you seem to getting defensive and evasive. Is the lining in the street today equivalent to a Hajj?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Imran compared himself to the Prophet PBUH. Since you don’t have an issue with him doing so, why do you have a problem with the Sharifs and Rana?
    So out of all the maulvis and Nooras that literally watch his every move and have never even mentioned, you have this unique insight. You are desperate for the comments to be deleted because you know that by saying something like this will receive a strong reaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipcatch View Post
    Come on provide an evidence otherwise you’re a liar and you do not have a better defense.
    Watch Imran’s interviews with Hamid Mir and Mubasher Lucman that were aired 2-3 weeks back.

    In both interviews, he used the Prophet PBUH’s example to justify why his u-turn on electables.

    When he was asked how he is going to bring change with the same old people, he replied that the people of Mecca were the same, but the Prophet PBUH brought a revolution with Islam, and the power of the ideology enabled the same people to conquer empires.

    Hence, his u-turn on electables is justified because you can bring change with new ideology and beliefs even if the political class is the same.

    These are not my words but his, and you can call me a liar if you want, but both interviews are available on YouTube and you can see for yourself. He gave the example of the Prophet PBUH in both interviews, and he has done so many times before as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    So if i say i am giving charity like our beloved Prophet, does that mean i am comparing my self to our prophet in a bad way or just following in his footsteps. But back to this, and i take it that you agree, as you seem to getting defensive and evasive. Is the lining in the street today equivalent to a Hajj?
    Mimicking the Prophet’s deeds as sunnah is completely different to comparing your political revolution and the change that you will bring in the same people to what the Prophet PBUH did.

    Please read my last post in reply to slipcatch, and explain how Imran’s analogy is justifiable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Watch Imran’s interviews with Hamid Mir and Mubasher Lucman that were aired 2-3 weeks back.

    In both interviews, he used the Prophet PBUH’s example to justify why his u-turn on electables.

    When he was asked how he is going to bring change with the same old people, he replied that the people of Mecca were the same, but the Prophet PBUH brought a revolution with Islam, and the power of the ideology enabled the same people to conquer empires.

    Hence, his u-turn on electables is justified because you can bring change with new ideology and beliefs even if the political class is the same.

    These are not my words but his, and you can call me a liar if you want, but both interviews are available on YouTube and you can see for yourself. He gave the example of the Prophet PBUH in both interviews, and he has done so many times before as well.
    And this is comparable to saying it's more important than Hajj to receive Nawaz on airport?

    He said that he would try to change people, like the Prophet (PBUH) did. Just like I could say that I want to give in charity, like the Prophet (PBUH) did

    Rana said Nawaz>Hajj
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Mimicking the Prophet’s deeds as sunnah is completely different to comparing your political revolution and the change that you will bring in the same people to what the Prophet PBUH did.

    Please read my last post in reply to slipcatch, and explain how Imran’s analogy is justifiable.
    Again, he said, he wanted to bring a change like that, which is much worse than what Rana has said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    So out of all the maulvis and Nooras that literally watch his every move and have never even mentioned, you have this unique insight. You are desperate for the comments to be deleted because you know that by saying something like this will receive a strong reaction.
    Are you denying that Imran did not compare himself to the Prophet PBUH to justify his u-turn on electables? Watch his interviews with Hamid Mir and Lucman.

    He has two standard examples to defend his decision to redefine the term electables: 1) Prophet PBUH 2) Malaysia’s Mahathir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Watch Imran’s interviews with Hamid Mir and Mubasher Lucman that were aired 2-3 weeks back.

    In both interviews, he used the Prophet PBUH’s example to justify why his u-turn on electables.

    When he was asked how he is going to bring change with the same old people, he replied that the people of Mecca were the same, but the Prophet PBUH brought a revolution with Islam, and the power of the ideology enabled the same people to conquer empires.

    Hence, his u-turn on electables is justified because you can bring change with new ideology and beliefs even if the political class is the same.

    These are not my words but his, and you can call me a liar if you want, but both interviews are available on YouTube and you can see for yourself. He gave the example of the Prophet PBUH in both interviews, and he has done so many times before as well.
    Yes he gave examples from the prophets life. So you are comparing a guy that is encouraging kuffr acts with actual examples, however unpalatable they are to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Watch Imran’s interviews with Hamid Mir and Mubasher Lucman that were aired 2-3 weeks back.

    In both interviews, he used the Prophet PBUH’s example to justify why his u-turn on electables.

    When he was asked how he is going to bring change with the same old people, he replied th the people of Mecca were the same, but the Prophet PBUH brought a revolution with Islam, and the power of the ideology enabled the same people to conquer empires.

    Hence, his u-turn on electables is justified because you can bring change with new ideology and beliefs even if the political class is the same.

    These are not my words but his, and you can call me a liar if you want, but both interviews are available on YouTube and you can see for yourself. He gave the example of the Prophet PBUH in both interviews, and he has done so many times before as well.
    Ha ha , okay

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    Quote Originally Posted by InziRules View Post
    And this is comparable to saying it's more important than Hajj to receive Nawaz on airport?

    He said that he would try to change people, like the Prophet (PBUH) dead. Just like I could say that I want to give in charity, like the Prophet (PBUH) dead.

    Rana said Nawaz>Hajj
    No, the giving charity example is not relevant in this context.

    By comparing his political revolution to the Prophet’s religious revolution, he is asserting that his political revolution is as powerful as the Prophet’s religious revolution, and just like him, he can bring a similar change in the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Yes he gave examples from the prophets life. So you are comparing a guy that is encouraging kuffr acts with actual examples, however unpalatable they are to you.
    Rather not waste time, it’s a sad day for some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    No, the giving charity example is not relevant in this context.

    By comparing his political revolution to the Prophet’s religious revolution, he is asserting that his political revolution is as powerful as the Prophet’s religious revolution, and just like him, he can bring a similar change in the people.
    Imran the Messiah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    No, the giving charity example is not relevant in this context.

    By comparing his political revolution to the Prophet’s religious revolution, he is asserting that his political revolution is as powerful as the Prophet’s religious revolution, and just like him, he can bring a similar change in the people.
    Is any of this Haram in Islam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    No, the giving charity example is not relevant in this context.

    By comparing his political revolution to the Prophet’s religious revolution, he is asserting that his political revolution is as powerful as the Prophet’s religious revolution, and just like him, he can bring a similar change in the people.
    This is not comparing himself to the Prophet(pbuh) but saying he is following his example of fighting for justice and social change. As Muslims we are supposed to follow his example in everything he has done. Sorry but this is desperation of the highest order from you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Are you denying that Imran did not compare himself to the Prophet PBUH to justify his u-turn on electables? Watch his interviews with Hamid Mir and Lucman.

    He has two standard examples to defend his decision to redefine the term electables: 1) Prophet PBUH 2) Malaysia’s Mahathir.
    Yes i am, and it takes a very desperate person to use this example of following in someone's footsteps as comparing themselves to the our beloved prophet. I see people quoting examples from the prophet all day long, so if this is the best you can do to evade, then its not going to work. But how to do you feel about Ranas statement today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    This is not comparing himself to the Prophet(pbuh) but saying he is following his example of fighting for justice and social change. As Muslims we are supposed to follow his example in everything he has done. Sorry but this is desperation of the highest order from you.
    He stated that the same people of Mecca were transformed by the power of religion, and now he will ensure that the political class of Pakistan will also transform by the power of his politics.

    This definitely a comparison in my view, and if people are okay with him casually citing the Prophet’s example to justify his u-turn on electables, they shouldn’t have much of a problem with Rana’s statement.

    Both are equally deplorable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    He stated that the same people of Mecca were transformed by the power of religion, and now he will ensure that the political class of Pakistan will also transform by the power of his politics.

    This definitely a comparison in my view, and if people are okay with him casually citing the Prophet’s example to justify his u-turn on electables, they shouldn’t have much of a problem with Rana’s statement.

    Both are equally deplorable.
    There have been hundreds of Muslim leaders who have followed the example set of the Prophet(pbuh) in transforming society. On the contrary he is upholding and respecting what the example to mankind did by making a positive change for society.

    Yes it's your view which has based on anti-IK view. Please stop with this desperation, you can do better by making sensible criticisms regarding his policies etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    He stated that the same people of Mecca were transformed by the power of religion, and now he will ensure that the political class of Pakistan will also transform by the power of his politics.

    This definitely a comparison in my view, and if people are okay with him casually citing the Prophet’s example to justify his u-turn on electables, they shouldn’t have much of a problem with Rana’s statement.

    Both are equally deplorable.
    As you believe its ok, you have saved yourself thousands in spending, and 4 weeks as your Hajj will now be waiting for criminals at airports. Great, whose next to come back?
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    Amazing deflection by the way. I admire your resilience.

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    lol @Mamoon, how desperate can one get.

    Imran Khan did what every Muslim does, that is, to take lessons from the life of the prophet (s) : if you have a friend going through some sorts of tribulations, and you tell to him to take example from the prophetic experience (struggle in Mecca/success later on), are you "comparing" him to the prophet (s) ? What's this silly analogy ? Why do you think that no journalists ever brought that "controversy" with Imran Khan, nor the Nooras, who have many morally bankrupt "leaders" who would have launched Armageddon on Imran for this "issue" (like Hanif Abbasi) ? Because it's not an "issue".

    On the other hand, your dear Rana has literally DOWNPLAYED a religious obligation/ritual for the sake of NS. A comparison would be if Imran said - God forbids - "the elections are more important for me than namaaz" or "donations to SKMCH are more important than zakat". And that's why it IS a controversy right now. If dear Rana fears for his life he'll have legitimate reasons to, now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enkidu_ View Post
    lol @Mamoon, how desperate can one get.

    Imran Khan did what every Muslim does, that is, to take lessons from the life of the prophet (s) : if you have a friend going through some sorts of tribulations, and you tell to him to take example from the prophetic experience (struggle in Mecca/success later on), are you "comparing" him to the prophet (s) ? What's this silly analogy ? Why do you think that no journalists ever brought that "controversy" with Imran Khan, nor the Nooras, who have many morally bankrupt "leaders" who would have launched Armageddon on Imran for this "issue" (like Hanif Abbasi) ? Because it's not an "issue".

    On the other hand, your dear Rana has literally DOWNPLAYED a religious obligation/ritual for the sake of NS. A comparison would be if Imran said - God forbids - "the elections are more important for me than namaaz" or "donations to SKMCH are more important than zakat". And that's why it IS a controversy right now. If dear Rana fears for his life he'll have legitimate reasons to, now.
    Ever since his saplings debacle, he has got more and more desperate.

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    He is right

    Even in Haj you go to throw stones at satan and here people should do the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Imran compared himself to the Prophet PBUH. Since you don’t have an issue with him doing so, why do you have a problem with the Sharifs and Rana?
    Stop lying you confused individual.

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    This Rana guy has made many crazy comments before but this is probably the worst.
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    I will give mamoon some credit for appearing on here, although his defense of this stupidity, was bizzare but where are @LegendInzi or @TalentSpotterPk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    He stated that the same people of Mecca were transformed by the power of religion, and now he will ensure that the political class of Pakistan will also transform by the power of his politics.

    This definitely a comparison in my view, and if people are okay with him casually citing the Prophet’s example to justify his u-turn on electables, they shouldn’t have much of a problem with Rana’s statement.

    Both are equally deplorable.
    Ha ha ha

    Straws being clutched...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Watch Imran’s interviews with Hamid Mir and Mubasher Lucman that were aired 2-3 weeks back.

    In both interviews, he used the Prophet PBUH’s example to justify why his u-turn on electables.

    When he was asked how he is going to bring change with the same old people, he replied that the people of Mecca were the same, but the Prophet PBUH brought a revolution with Islam, and the power of the ideology enabled the same people to conquer empires.

    Hence, his u-turn on electables is justified because you can bring change with new ideology and beliefs even if the political class is the same.

    These are not my words but his, and you can call me a liar if you want, but both interviews are available on YouTube and you can see for yourself. He gave the example of the Prophet PBUH in both interviews, and he has done so many times before as well.
    Prophet (PBUH) used right hand to eat food, I do so too. Am I comparing myself with Prophet?

    Using Prophet (PBUH) life's examples to live our current life is called Sunnah not comparison of activities.

    Hard to argue with an idiot's (PMLN) logic. They would never give you a simple answer to a question like what's 2+2, instead they would throw in another rhetorical question which makes no sense to the original question. And then the conversation goes round in circles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extra_Cover View Post
    Prophet (PBUH) used right hand to eat food, I do so too. Am I comparing myself with Prophet?

    Using Prophet (PBUH) life's examples to live our current life is called Sunnah not comparison of activities.

    Hard to argue with an idiot's (PMLN) logic. They would never give you a simple answer to a question like what's 2+2, instead they would throw in another rhetorical question which makes no sense to the original question. And then the conversation goes round in circles.
    Yes because following the sunnah and little habits, is the same as projecting oneself as a saviour of Pakistan like The Prophet (PBUH) was to the people of Arabia.

    As usual Mamoon giving others a reality check and others getting personal in desperation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extra_Cover View Post
    Prophet (PBUH) used right hand to eat food, I do so too. Am I comparing myself with Prophet?

    Using Prophet (PBUH) life's examples to live our current life is called Sunnah not comparison of activities.

    Hard to argue with an idiot's (PMLN) logic. They would never give you a simple answer to a question like what's 2+2, instead they would throw in another rhetorical question which makes no sense to the original question. And then the conversation goes round in circles.
    There is no comparison between following the Prophet’s sunnah and claiming that you will change the mindset of the people of Pakistan, just like the Prophet PBUH changed the mindset of the people of Arabia.

    That is not following sunnah - that is someone suffering from messiah complex who is projecting himself as a revolutionary along the same lines as the Prophet PBUH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Misbah View Post
    Stop lying you confused individual.
    Watch the interviews with Hamid Mir and Lucman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enkidu_ View Post
    lol @Mamoon, how desperate can one get.

    Imran Khan did what every Muslim does, that is, to take lessons from the life of the prophet (s) : if you have a friend going through some sorts of tribulations, and you tell to him to take example from the prophetic experience (struggle in Mecca/success later on), are you "comparing" him to the prophet (s) ? What's this silly analogy ? Why do you think that no journalists ever brought that "controversy" with Imran Khan, nor the Nooras, who have many morally bankrupt "leaders" who would have launched Armageddon on Imran for this "issue" (like Hanif Abbasi) ? Because it's not an "issue".

    On the other hand, your dear Rana has literally DOWNPLAYED a religious obligation/ritual for the sake of NS. A comparison would be if Imran said - God forbids - "the elections are more important for me than namaaz" or "donations to SKMCH are more important than zakat". And that's why it IS a controversy right now. If dear Rana fears for his life he'll have legitimate reasons to, now.
    Taking lessons from the Prophet’s life is not the same as claiming that he will change the people of his nation just like the Prophet PBUH did.

    In other words, he is comparing the power and the influence of his political ideology with the Islamic revolution.

    What he fails to understand that there is a world of difference between faith and political gains. A lot of people literally gave up everything they had for the sake of Islam, because the power of their faith towered above all material gains.

    On the contrary, these electables that have joined PTI have done so because of their political careers.

    Do you think all these lotas care about Naya Pakistan?

    The companions of the Prophet were spiritually reborn. They were different people from the moment they embraced Islam. On the contrary, the electables of Imran are still the same people, but yet he will somehow find a way to stop them from doing what they have been doing all their political careers.

    His attempt to use Prophet PBUH’s example to justify his decision to refine electables has backfired badly.

    Clearly a very poor analogy, and it pretty much confirms what we have known for a long time - he is a chronic patient of the messiah complex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Taking lessons from the Prophet’s life is not the same as claiming that he will change the people of his nation just like the Prophet PBUH did.

    In other words, he is comparing the power and the influence of his political ideology with the Islamic revolution.

    What he fails to understand that there is a world of difference between faith and political gains. A lot of people literally gave up everything they had for the sake of Islam, because the power of their faith towered above all material gains.

    On the contrary, these electables that have joined PTI have done so because of their political careers.

    Do you think all these lotas care about Naya Pakistan?

    The companions of the Prophet were spiritually reborn. They were different people from the moment they embraced Islam. On the contrary, the electables of Imran are still the same people, but yet he will somehow find a way to stop them from doing what they have been doing all their political careers.

    His attempt to use Prophet PBUH’s example to justify his decision to refine electables has backfired badly.

    Clearly a very poor analogy, and it pretty much confirms what we have known for a long time - he is a chronic patient of the messiah complex.
    Mate your arguments are nonsensical rubbish, mostly you do this to gain attention but this time like with your humiliating evasion on saplings you have come out like stupid. Following our beloved prophets example, is not the same as what your are hinting at that he claims to be some sort of prophet. Btw which criminal will allow you to complete your Noora Hajj duties? When is Ishaq Dar coming back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Watch the interviews with Hamid Mir and Lucman.
    We have and as Noora types and even they havent even hinted what you are hinting at. Your losing it big time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Taking lessons from the Prophet’s life is not the same as claiming that he will change the people of his nation just like the Prophet PBUH did.

    In other words, he is comparing the power and the influence of his political ideology with the Islamic revolution.

    What he fails to understand that there is a world of difference between faith and political gains. A lot of people literally gave up everything they had for the sake of Islam, because the power of their faith towered above all material gains.

    On the contrary, these electables that have joined PTI have done so because of their political careers.

    Do you think all these lotas care about Naya Pakistan?

    The companions of the Prophet were spiritually reborn. They were different people from the moment they embraced Islam. On the contrary, the electables of Imran are still the same people, but yet he will somehow find a way to stop them from doing what they have been doing all their political careers.

    His attempt to use Prophet PBUH’s example to justify his decision to refine electables has backfired badly.

    Clearly a very poor analogy, and it pretty much confirms what we have known for a long time - he is a chronic patient of the messiah complex.
    Again some dishonest apologetic from you, no surprise : he didn't "compare" himself to the prophet (s). That means everything and nothing. You're inferring and projecting here about his "messiah complex". If a politician talks of the prophet (s), he's into a "messiah complex" ? What does that even mean ? Has he EXPLICITLY said that he's a new prophet or the reincarnation of the prophet (s) ? Otherwise, what you're talking is pure, biased rhetoric void.

    On the other hand, dear Rana has EXPLICITLY downgraded a fard in the name of Nawaz Sharif. How can you even compare the two ? Do you think that your afterlife will be played on your PP posting history pandering to Indians/defense of convicted criminals ?

    And again you remain willfully ignorant of his example : he didn't talk of the companions about the "electables", but of the Quraysh of Mecca, who, minus few figures like ibn Khatal who were executed for high treason (collecting taxes from Muslims, then joining the pagans to fight them), were sparred, and integrated into the Islamic community, their seeds later giving on the Umayyad dynasty - in fact, if you read Shi'a historiography, they say that the Muawiyah/Yazid were all hypocrites, overtly Muslims but in reality continuing the jahilya mindset of Abu Sufyan/Hind, who were the staunchest of opponents to the prophet (s).

    Imran Khan says nothing else : like the prophet (s) - he's not "comparing" himself to him, but "emulating" him, like you know, we all should - he won't destroy the whole political system, for the simple reason that it's impossible, but digest what's possible in order to bring his own system. As Imran Khan also says, you can't bring politicians from Europe, you're BOUND to deal with morally unstable individuals, "electables", because the masses apparently can't vote without them. But if the head of the party is free of financial corruption, at least these "electables" will follow suit - the same way the Quraysh, even if they or their children might be sincere or not (that's Shi'a historiography as well as trends of modern Islamist thought ; see Qutb, Mawdudi, ...), they never abandoned Islam, and in fact spread it.

    You really have to be a blind Noora to not see really, so simple it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enkidu_ View Post
    Again some dishonest apologetic from you, no surprise : he didn't "compare" himself to the prophet (s). That means everything and nothing. You're inferring and projecting here about his "messiah complex". If a politician talks of the prophet (s), he's into a "messiah complex" ? What does that even mean ? Has he EXPLICITLY said that he's a new prophet or the reincarnation of the prophet (s) ? Otherwise, what you're talking is pure, biased rhetoric void.

    On the other hand, dear Rana has EXPLICITLY downgraded a fard in the name of Nawaz Sharif. How can you even compare the two ? Do you think that your afterlife will be played on your PP posting history pandering to Indians/defense of convicted criminals ?

    And again you remain willfully ignorant of his example : he didn't talk of the companions about the "electables", but of the Quraysh of Mecca, who, minus few figures like ibn Khatal who were executed for high treason (collecting taxes from Muslims, then joining the pagans to fight them), were sparred, and integrated into the Islamic community, their seeds later giving on the Umayyad dynasty - in fact, if you read Shi'a historiography, they say that the Muawiyah/Yazid were all hypocrites, overtly Muslims but in reality continuing the jahilya mindset of Abu Sufyan/Hind, who were the staunchest of opponents to the prophet (s).

    Imran Khan says nothing else : like the prophet (s) - he's not "comparing" himself to him, but "emulating" him, like you know, we all should - he won't destroy the whole political system, for the simple reason that it's impossible, but digest what's possible in order to bring his own system. As Imran Khan also says, you can't bring politicians from Europe, you're BOUND to deal with morally unstable individuals, "electables", because the masses apparently can't vote without them. But if the head of the party is free of financial corruption, at least these "electables" will follow suit - the same way the Quraysh, even if they or their children might be sincere or not (that's Shi'a historiography as well as trends of modern Islamist thought ; see Qutb, Mawdudi, ...), they never abandoned Islam, and in fact spread it.

    You really have to be a blind Noora to not see really, so simple it is.
    Great write up, thanks for the historical context. I enjoy reading your posts, they are very informative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enkidu_ View Post
    Again some dishonest apologetic from you, no surprise : he didn't "compare" himself to the prophet (s). That means everything and nothing. You're inferring and projecting here about his "messiah complex". If a politician talks of the prophet (s), he's into a "messiah complex" ? What does that even mean ? Has he EXPLICITLY said that he's a new prophet or the reincarnation of the prophet (s) ? Otherwise, what you're talking is pure, biased rhetoric void.

    On the other hand, dear Rana has EXPLICITLY downgraded a fard in the name of Nawaz Sharif. How can you even compare the two ? Do you think that your afterlife will be played on your PP posting history pandering to Indians/defense of convicted criminals ?

    And again you remain willfully ignorant of his example : he didn't talk of the companions about the "electables", but of the Quraysh of Mecca, who, minus few figures like ibn Khatal who were executed for high treason (collecting taxes from Muslims, then joining the pagans to fight them), were sparred, and integrated into the Islamic community, their seeds later giving on the Umayyad dynasty - in fact, if you read Shi'a historiography, they say that the Muawiyah/Yazid were all hypocrites, overtly Muslims but in reality continuing the jahilya mindset of Abu Sufyan/Hind, who were the staunchest of opponents to the prophet (s).

    Imran Khan says nothing else : like the prophet (s) - he's not "comparing" himself to him, but "emulating" him, like you know, we all should - he won't destroy the whole political system, for the simple reason that it's impossible, but digest what's possible in order to bring his own system. As Imran Khan also says, you can't bring politicians from Europe, you're BOUND to deal with morally unstable individuals, "electables", because the masses apparently can't vote without them. But if the head of the party is free of financial corruption, at least these "electables" will follow suit - the same way the Quraysh, even if they or their children might be sincere or not (that's Shi'a historiography as well as trends of modern Islamist thought ; see Qutb, Mawdudi, ...), they never abandoned Islam, and in fact spread it.

    You really have to be a blind Noora to not see really, so simple it is.
    Good write up! Some people are colorblind and they don't see color, Mamoon seems to be logicblind and hence won't see the logic of your post. However, thanks for clarifying something for which no one (bar some) needed clarification.

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    Wah Wah kya chitrol ho rahee ha.......i follow Mohamamd PUBH in my life and give examples to my friends that how Mohammad PUBH did when he was going through hard times .I may not know much about religion but ........................... @Bewal Express bhai ko samjha day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    Wah Wah kya chitrol ho rahee ha.......i follow Mohamamd PUBH in my life and give examples to my friends that how Mohammad PUBH did when he was going through hard times .I may not know much about religion but ........................... @Bewal Express bhai ko samjha day.
    Bro we dont hear enough from you. I thought i knew something about Nooras but their stupidity on this issue shocked me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Watch the interviews with Hamid Mir and Lucman.
    Fear the day of judgment brother; no Nawaz will save you.

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    Looool pak politics is a joke

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    Saira Afzal ex health minister of PMLN says ALLAH learns from experiences (nauzubillah) and we also learn from experiences.



    TalentSpotterPk: I pray PanamaLeak sink Sharif ship forever we dont want this pseudo democracy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mian View Post
    Saira Afzal ex health minister of PMLN says ALLAH learns from experiences (nauzubillah) and we also learn from experiences.

    Bhai yeh log kabhi soch samajh kay bol nahi sakte?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    Bhai yeh log kabhi soch samajh kay bol nahi sakte?
    inper buraai i hui he inke dilon per mohren lag age hen bhai aankhon per perda pergaya he.


    TalentSpotterPk: I pray PanamaLeak sink Sharif ship forever we dont want this pseudo democracy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mian View Post
    inper buraai i hui he inke dilon per mohren lag age hen bhai aankhon per perda pergaya he.
    They speak to the gallery. It sells among their audience who in turn defend this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by last_knight View Post
    They speak to the gallery. It sells among their audience who in turn defend this.
    Zamana e jahilyat ki yaaden taaza ker rahe hen


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    Need to defeat people like Rana Sanaullah, Abid Sher, says Imran

    FAISALABAD: Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf chairman Imran Khan on Sunday said it was time to defeat elements like Rana Sanaullah and Abid Sher Ali.

    Addressing a campaign rally at Dhobighat ground, the PTI chairman said a Rana Sanaullah had said that welcoming convicted former prime minister Nawaz Sharif was equivalent to performing the Hajj.

    “A Faisalabad politician said that welcoming Nawaz Sharif was equaivalent to the Hajj. What kind of an inept person gives such a statement?” he said.

    Condemning the controversial and disrespectful statement, he asked if people will hail an individual who has looted and plundered the nation.

    He said a nation is destroyed if there are no ethics, and asked what message which will be sent to the outside world for welcoming a convict.

    “We need to defeat people like Rana Sanuallah and Abid Sher Ali,” he said.

    He said those who want millions of people to come out on the streets will be defeat on July 25 when the general elections are held.

    He said even Abid Sher Ali’s father had accused Rana Sanaullah of involvement in at least eighteen murders. Therefore, the people should think about the future generations and defeat them in the elections.

    He said that the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) and Pakistan Muslim League (PML-N) ruled for ten years and bankrupted and indebted the nation, making people poorer but the elite started getting richer everyday.

    He hoped that Pakistan will progress and said his two-decade long struggle will bring a favourable change. The nation was progressing but the main reason for sliding down was corruption, he said.

    “Nawaz Sharif is in Adiala Jail and pretending to be innocent and a victim. There is a lot of drama going on there,” he said.

    He said the Sharif’s son was living in a house worth billions, while people here were deprived of basic doods and healthcare.

    He added those who plundered billions were claiming to be innocent, while the poor languish in jail for minor convictions and live in dismal conditions.

    https://arynews.tv/en/defeat-rana-sa...id-sher-imran/


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