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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    The formula is simple. A few exceptions aside, if the majority of Pakistanis hate you, you are doing the right thing and saying the right words. If you want to be successful in life and do good for this world, ensure that the majority of Pakistan will despise you, call you a traitor and a western/Indian agent.
    What happens when even foreigners start correcting your fantasies..... perhaps realise that you are having a break down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    Anyways as I said i fell into trap of haters and admit my mistake. This thread should be more about issues rather what is written on blackboard.

    Jibran Masha Allah going in full swing and long may it continue.
    So when is Saint Jib going to rural sindh to free the slaves?

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    Great initiative. More power to him.
    Isi tarah youth constructive and healthy activities mai hissa lai gi wrna Khadim Rizvi jaisun k mazayyy!







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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    So when is Saint Jib going to rural sindh to free the slaves?
    Jibran ka to pata nahi but if you really care about people of interior Sindh then there are 2 groups (Mera Karachi meri Zimaidari, and Apna Dastarkhaan) who go to areas in interior Sindh and do relief projects like installation of hand pumps etc. I have personal experience working with them but I know you probably will dismiss it going by your history of dismissing those doing good work, but if you are really interested then see their work for yourself (they have fb pages). Han agar sirf batain krni hain to please continue
    Last edited by SarfiBabarHaris; 8th September 2018 at 13:02.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    Looking forward to Saint Jib going to rural Sindh and blowing kisses to the slaves owners, and freeing the slaves....
    He has already done that. You are so ill-informed that it is funny. For a start, read up Shahzaib Khan murder case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    Jibran ka to pata nahi but if you really care about people of interior Sindh then there are 2 groups (Mera Karachi meri Zimaidari, and Apna Dastarkhaan) who go to areas in interior Sindh and do relief projects like installation of hand pumps etc. I have personal experience working with them but I know you probably will dismiss it going by your history of dismissing those doing good work, but if you are really interested then see their work for yourself (they have fb pages). Han agar sirf batain krni hain to please continue
    Ofcourse you have personal experience in everything, to top European universities to working with the poor... is there anything you are not expert at?

    But, you didn't answer my query... I asked about the slaves of interior sindh, dont confuse with poor. Surely someone of your intellect and experience can distinguish between the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedhk View Post
    He has already done that. You are so ill-informed that it is funny. For a start, read up Shahzaib Khan murder case.
    Didn't know shazaib was a slave? Please prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    True! But this needs to be changed wrna yar aglay 30 saal baad bhi yehi haal ho ga.

    Koi bhi public opinion sai different baat karay ya traitor, ya lifafa ya agent ban jata hai. And then these guys criticize that how educated people in their circles have extremist ideology (for example referring to discrimination against Ahmadis). Bhayyun aren"t you doing the same? This is so common in Pakistan.
    Is Qoum ki halat inhi bakwaasiat ke wajha se nahi badal sakti. Falana Qadiani hai, falana gustakh-e-rasul hai etc. Dunya kahan pohanch gai hai aur hum kin baaton me lagay huway hain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Is Qoum ki halat inhi bakwaasiat ke wajha se nahi badal sakti. Falana Qadiani hai, falana gustakh-e-rasul hai etc. Dunya kahan pohanch gai hai aur hum kin baaton me lagay huway hain.
    100% in agreement.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    Didn't know shazaib was a slave? Please prove it.
    You are missing the point again, as usual. Point was he has always helped the downtrodden no matter what. Have you read how Jatoi family ran a viral and persistent campaign on Bol TV portrayed him as a blasphemer and Hindu which resulted him receiving hate and death threats?

    Do you know he was one of the few Pakistanis to stand outside Lal Masjid and demanded authorities to arrest Mullah Aziz after he refused to condemn APS massacre? This led to TTP’s mouthpuce Ehsanullah Ehsan to personally call him and threaten him with dire consequences. JN didnt back away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    So when is Saint Jib going to rural sindh to free the slaves?
    Your whataboutism will get you nowhere. It is such an easy trick to deploy to discredit people. I can do the same by asking, ‘What about Shah Dullahs or Rat Children, why Edhi didn’t help them?

    See.Too easy.

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    Jibran Nasir is helped by the fact that people have zero expectations from him and he is not always under a microscopic lens. I am pretty certain he has to promote himself and his causes rather than letting the eye balls come to him directly. It's a different ball game when you grow in size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    Ofcourse you have personal experience in everything, to top European universities to working with the poor... is there anything you are not expert at?

    But, you didn't answer my query... I asked about the slaves of interior sindh, dont confuse with poor. Surely someone of your intellect and experience can distinguish between the two.
    Lol silly, i dont make up things.

    I have said it before too that i studied in NUST which is the top engineering uni of Pakistan and my GPA and education at NUST helped me to get admission in masters at one of the top European uni but the competition there was much tougher so my gpa there was average.

    Secondly i have said it before too that my cousins live in Karachi and through them and their friends i got to know about the real situation of interior Sindh and took part in some relief projects in Badin and Gharo areas of Sindh.

    3rdly i anwsered your question "Jibran ka to nahi pata" i think your Urdu isnt good. Sorry i should have written it in English.

    I know the difference between poor and slaves but as you always bring this rural Sindh slave thing just to divert the discussions so i thought you really care about them and i should tell you about something in which you can really contribute sitting behind your keyboard as freeing slaves will be much difficult.

    4th: I never said that i have a special intellect, infact in one of my posts in pp i said posters here are quite intelligent and better versed in English than me. Getting admission in a top uni is not difficult if you have good GPA in bachelors. You just need to clear the interview which isn't that difficult.


    Now as you have achieved your goal of diverting the discussion can we get back on topic and discuss something constructive?
    Last edited by SarfiBabarHaris; 8th September 2018 at 19:09.


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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedhk View Post
    Your whataboutism will get you nowhere. It is such an easy trick to deploy to discredit people. I can do the same by asking, ‘What about Shah Dullahs or Rat Children, why Edhi didn’t help them?

    See.Too easy.
    Why didn't Eidhi helped the poor in my area? Lets ignore all he has done for humanity and Pakistanis and start hating him.

    Regards


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Is Qoum ki halat inhi bakwaasiat ke wajha se nahi badal sakti. Falana Qadiani hai, falana gustakh-e-rasul hai etc. Dunya kahan pohanch gai hai aur hum kin baaton me lagay huway hain.
    Year 2336: Muslims still fighting on who is a 'true' Muslim and who is not. Possible agr halaat aisay he rahay. Dunya albatta kahan sai kahan pohanch gaye.


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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedhk View Post
    You are missing the point again, as usual. Point was he has always helped the downtrodden no matter what. Have you read how Jatoi family ran a viral and persistent campaign on Bol TV portrayed him as a blasphemer and Hindu which resulted him receiving hate and death threats?

    Do you know he was one of the few Pakistanis to stand outside Lal Masjid and demanded authorities to arrest Mullah Aziz after he refused to condemn APS massacre? This led to TTP’s mouthpuce Ehsanullah Ehsan to personally call him and threaten him with dire consequences. JN didnt back away.
    Again. You must have comprehension issues. i asked whether shazaib was a slave, and reading your post, the answer should have been a simple. The rest of your post becomes irrelevant from that point on.

    Quote Originally Posted by saeedhk View Post
    Your whataboutism will get you nowhere. It is such an easy trick to deploy to discredit people. I can do the same by asking, ‘What about Shah Dullahs or Rat Children, why Edhi didn’t help them?

    See.Too easy.
    Don't throw terms around that you clearly don't understand.

    Saint Jib has made a conscious decision to make mileage out of relatively well off marginalised minority, but he's not willing to do the same for the 2 million or so slaves...very relevant if you ask me. Unless you think the slaves are better off compared to Ahmedis.

    The whataboutism I see is from Saint Jib's PP apostles. I ask a simple question about when will he start campaign to help slaves of sindh.... and in reply I get but whatabout

    Shazaib
    Maulana Aziz
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    Lol silly, i dont make up things.

    I have said it before too that i studied in NUST which is the top engineering uni of Pakistan and my GPA and education at NUST helped me to get admission in masters at one of the top European uni but the competition there was much tougher so my gpa there was average.

    Secondly i have said it before too that my cousins live in Karachi and through them and their friends i got to know about the real situation of interior Sindh and took part in some relief projects in Badin and Gharo areas of Sindh.

    3rdly i anwsered your question "Jibran ka to nahi pata" i think your Urdu isnt good. Sorry i should have written it in English.

    I know the difference between poor and slaves but as you always bring this rural Sindh slave thing just to divert the discussions so i thought you really care about them and i should tell you about something in which you can really contribute sitting behind your keyboard as freeing slaves will be much difficult.

    4th: I never said that i have a special intellect, infact in one of my posts in pp i said posters here are quite intelligent and better versed in English than me. Getting admission in a top uni is not difficult if you have good GPA in bachelors. You just need to clear the interview which isn't that difficult.


    Now as you have achieved your goal of diverting the discussion can we get back on topic and discuss something constructive?
    Talking about slaves of sindh is not constructive?

    The tiny portion you devoted to my actual query says that it's too difficult. So that's it then, let's just all forget about slaves of sindh and leave them be?

    Is this thread meant to be just praise for Saint Jib?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    Talking about slaves of sindh is not constructive?

    The tiny portion you devoted to my actual query says that it's too difficult. So that's it then, let's just all forget about slaves of sindh and leave them be?

    Is this thread meant to be just praise for Saint Jib?
    I already answered, I don't know what Jibran has done or what are his plans for slaves of Sindh.

    Too difficult as in for people like me and you (please read carefully), but seems like you are up for it. Good luck bro!


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    Guys. Grow up FGS.

    Stop with the stupid personal comments.

    Thanks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    Again. You must have comprehension issues. i asked whether shazaib was a slave, and reading your post, the answer should have been a simple. The rest of your post becomes irrelevant from that point on.



    Don't throw terms around that you clearly don't understand.

    Saint Jib has made a conscious decision to make mileage out of relatively well off marginalised minority, but he's not willing to do the same for the 2 million or so slaves...very relevant if you ask me. Unless you think the slaves are better off compared to Ahmedis.

    The whataboutism I see is from Saint Jib's PP apostles. I ask a simple question about when will he start campaign to help slaves of sindh.... and in reply I get but whatabout

    Shazaib
    Maulana Aziz
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    ........
    JN can’t help everyone, right? He can only tackle certain issues at a time since he too is a human. Similar to Edhi, he too was a human so he couldn’t be present anywhere.

    Your line of argument of asking has he done this and that is totally flawed. If we adopt your line of argument, we can downplay every philanthropist and activist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedhk View Post
    JN can’t help everyone, right? He can only tackle certain issues at a time since he too is a human. Similar to Edhi, he too was a human so he couldn’t be present anywhere.

    Your line of argument of asking has he done this and that is totally flawed. If we adopt your line of argument, we can downplay every philanthropist and activist.
    Edhi was not a politician. Saint Jib is.

    It's perfectly right to question why a politician does or doesn't do things.

    On topic, why has he chosen to ignore the plight of the slaves of sindh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    Edhi was not a politician. Saint Jib is.

    It's perfectly right to question why a politician does or doesn't do things.

    On topic, why has he chosen to ignore the plight of the slaves of sindh?
    As I mentioned already, he can’t tackle all issues at once. Very flawed line of argument. We can make up similar arguments for all politicians. Why hasn’t Imran Khan freed people from bonded labor?

    They all are humans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrez Pakistani View Post
    Jibran promised in is election corner meatings that first thing he will do (doesn't matter if he wins or loses the elections) is to engage youth.

    great tournament and well organized, 12000 attendance in final. Job well done! One man leading from the front.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    Reminds me of something similar


    And this video in the start


    Kudos to all people doing their bit. #LoveIsInclusive #DisabilityIsNotInability


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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    It’s a wonderful initiative.

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    It is truly shameful that a person like Jibran is not part of our legislature. How long do we have to wait to see him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedhk View Post
    It is truly shameful that a person like Jibran is not part of our legislature. How long do we have to wait to see him.
    As long as it takes.

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    I'm really hoping he manages to pull off an upset and win the PS-111 seat, we need people like Jibran as a part of Pakistani politics.


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