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    Will Imad Wasim be able to make a comeback to the Pakistan XI, now that he's regained full fitness?


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    Fitness aside, such a mediocre cricketer should not play for Pak again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Fitness aside, such a mediocre cricketer should not play for Pak again.
    Even then he is better than the pseudo all rounder Nawaz.

    However I'd take a specialist spinner like Gohar above these two.

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    For me if he's regained full fitness, he'd at least currently be an upgrade over Fahim. He actually has performances under his belt against decent sides unlike Fahim and has performed with the bat a bit. People generally want fast bowling allrounders as they're more flashy and because of Imran Khan, but average pace vs average spin, average spin is more likely to trouble sides and conserve runs.

    More over, team's not scared to give Imad 10 overs. They're safe overs and he'll reliably not go for runs. While Fahim, you know there's a huge risk he's going to get hit as a non-main pace bowler, even more so if he bowls the whole 10 overs.

    Lastly we already have 3 pacers in the team. A 4th is overkill unless he performs with the bat, or is an excellent fast bowler. While Imad as a 2nd spinner would work well in tandem with Shadab, and generally increase our options, reducing the need to bowl our part timers.

    Having said that, would probably prefer to try out Zafar Gohar, or fit another batsman in currently than Imad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ads101 View Post
    For me if he's regained full fitness, he'd at least currently be an upgrade over Fahim. He actually has performances under his belt against decent sides unlike Fahim and has performed with the bat a bit. People generally want fast bowling allrounders as they're more flashy and because of Imran Khan, but average pace vs average spin, average spin is more likely to trouble sides and conserve runs.

    More over, team's not scared to give Imad 10 overs. They're safe overs and he'll reliably not go for runs. While Fahim, you know there's a huge risk he's going to get hit as a non-main pace bowler, even more so if he bowls the whole 10 overs.

    Lastly we already have 3 pacers in the team. A 4th is overkill unless he performs with the bat, or is an excellent fast bowler. While Imad as a 2nd spinner would work well in tandem with Shadab, and generally increase our options, reducing the need to bowl our part timers.

    Having said that, would probably prefer to try out Zafar Gohar, or fit another batsman in currently than Imad.
    I dont think Fahim has been an average bowler. He needs to get some scores under his belt in batting.
    The guy has just started his career. I guess we are playing Aus/NZ/SA in the next few months and this will make or break his career. I like his energy.

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    Easily. He's a good player who has the potential to get better and his economical bowling can prove to be valuable in ODIs. Also, Nawaz has done nothing in his absence to even be expect to be selected in the squad, let alone the playing XI.

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    Goes straight in as 12th man
    First eleven atm is locked.
    Then it comes down to combo for pitch and conditions


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    Why not? He's much better than the overrated Shadab.

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    Canít believe how easily people forget this guy is as mediocre as they come. What is one single performance that is noteworthy since the West Indies series in the UAE back in 2016?

    Itís a wicket here, a wicket there, some ducks right, some useless dumb slogging left. As soon as AUS found out he couldnít spin the ball and started playing him as the medium-pacer-in-spinner disguise he is, they tonked him all around the park.

    Canít bat, canít bowl, canít field.

    But he can speak English...

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    He goes straight into the 20/20 side, no problem there because heís performed consistently with the ball especially.

    There are some legitimate questions regarding his ODI selection especially his fitness and fielding. Heís still decent but could be better if he has the hunger to improve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    I dont think Fahim has been an average bowler. He needs to get some scores under his belt in batting.
    The guy has just started his career. I guess we are playing Aus/NZ/SA in the next few months and this will make or break his career. I like his energy.
    Fahim could be the greatest bowler in the world, but if he's only bowling around 5 overs every game what's the point?

    Same he could be the greatest batsman in the world, but what's he going to do at 8?

    If you can not properly utilise a player or integrate a player in the side what's the point? Imad would get more batting time and bowling time than Fahim for sure. Fahim didn't even need to compete with Hafeez
    like Imad did for overs, yet still he doesn't get anywhere near full quota most games.

    He's an average bowler for our attack. Hasan, Amir, Shinwari all are better pacers. Shadab's a better bowler, sole spinner, and will bowl more overs than Fahim even on a pace friendly pitch. Arguably Junaid and Raees are better pacers too. Hence we're playing arguably our 6th best bowler at most at the cost of an allrounder/batting position, and then stick him down with the tailenders at 8 for batting. And then hardly bowl him. That's the reality of it.

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    He would get straight into the T20 side for probably Nawaz, who I think needs to improve his batting. But that's it for Imad, Don't see him in the Test or ODI. Would prefer Zafar Gohar in ODI & Test.

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    To be honest Pakistan has better options than him in shorter formats.

    He is not a genuine wicket taker , he gets wickets when Batsmen go after him. If Pakistan get a wicket taking second spin option , the bowling would be close to perfect.

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    Would be better off playing with ten players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Why not? He's much better than the overrated Shadab.


    At this point you have to be trolling.

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    Pakistan will need a 2nd spinner in UAE for the Asia cup next month - and I don't think they will try the Yasir experiment again, nor do I think they will take an untested player for that tournament

    I think its between Nawaz and Imad - and Imad probably gets the edge. And he may end up displacing one of the 4 fast bowlers (Faheem, Amir, Hassan, Usman) in the playing 11 as well

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    Yes, he is a superior option to Nawaz and if its favourable spin conditions, he should be in the lineup over Faheem. Faheem and Imad rotated in CT depending on conditions/opposition and that should be no different going forward.

    Imad in the lineup gives quite a bit of flexibility as well since you have 2 spinners, 3 seamers and potentially another off spinner in Malik as 6th option if need be.

    If he can stay healthy and perform, he will most likely be on WC squad and its important to note that he's batted really well in England in his career. He hasn't picked up a lot of wickets but does have an economy of just 4.50 in 62.4 overs. Use him correctly in right conditions/opposition (and vs lineups that are right handed batting heavy) and he could do pretty well.

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    He should look for an alternative career because he's clearly an average player at best. As much as I don't like Nawaz I will still have him over imad at least he can field unlike him. People saying hes better then fahim and shadab needs to watch a bit more of cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ads101 View Post
    Fahim could be the greatest bowler in the world, but if he's only bowling around 5 overs every game what's the point?

    Same he could be the greatest batsman in the world, but what's he going to do at 8?

    If you can not properly utilise a player or integrate a player in the side what's the point? Imad would get more batting time and bowling time than Fahim for sure. Fahim didn't even need to compete with Hafeez
    like Imad did for overs, yet still he doesn't get anywhere near full quota most games.

    He's an average bowler for our attack. Hasan, Amir, Shinwari all are better pacers. Shadab's a better bowler, sole spinner, and will bowl more overs than Fahim even on a pace friendly pitch. Arguably Junaid and Raees are better pacers too. Hence we're playing arguably our 6th best bowler at most at the cost of an allrounder/batting position, and then stick him down with the tailenders at 8 for batting. And then hardly bowl him. That's the reality of it.
    At least he is more reliable than Amir and Junaid. Without him we saw how our team struggled to get wickets against Zim of all teams. Hell Amir only got 2 wickets in 5 matches against NZ and Faheem got 5. So yea having him in the team improves our bowling especially considering we have bowlers like Amir and Junaid in our team.

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    Let's first see how Imad does in the CPL and go from there if he has a decent outing then bring him into the t20 squad that plays against NZ/AUS. If he keeps performing then he can play the ODI's against SA. In this case, he will always be trying his level best to get into the team and will find out that it is not a piece of cake walking back into the Pakistan team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    I dont think Fahim has been an average bowler. He needs to get some scores under his belt in batting.
    The guy has just started his career. I guess we are playing Aus/NZ/SA in the next few months and this will make or break his career. I like his energy.
    Make or break for Faheem? 😂heís a shoe in for the World Cup and is a good bowler and dangerous batsman who will win us a game with the bat in the World Cup. He hasnít had a real chance to fire with the bat.

    Imad has an attitude problem, has barely scored with the bat and is ok at best with the ball. A squad-player at best to come in if we play multiple spinners in a few games of it is a hot English summer next year.

    Imad only a shoe in for t20.

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    I think Imad is a must for T20 as his PP overs are key for Pak but I don't think he is good enough for ODIs. For Asia Cup, I think Fahim over Imad because of WC19 being in England and Fahim's bowling as a 4th seamer could be useful with Malik as the part timer. We have a strong LO team and we don't want to be a team of allrounders

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    Yes, he's a vital part of the team.

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    We should persist with him in T20 for now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ManFan View Post
    Hold this L.
    I'm not on the Shadab bandwagon unlike the rest of PP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    I'm not on the Shadab bandwagon unlike the rest of PP.
    So, please provide us with the statistics to support your claim that Imam deserves a place over Shadab?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManFan View Post
    So, please provide us with the statistics to support your claim that Imam deserves a place over Shadab?
    He has a better strike rate with the bat (91 and 151 vs 76 and 129). And better economy with the ball (4.48 and 6.07 vs 4.72 and 6.72) in LOIs.

    These are just a few cherry-picked stats, but I can assure you that Shaddy has done a lot of minnow-bashing ever since his debut. That's okay cuz he is just a youngster but it does mean that he shouldn't be given a guaranteed spot in the XI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    He has a better strike rate with the bat (91 and 151 vs 76 and 129). And better economy with the ball (4.48 and 6.07 vs 4.72 and 6.72) in LOIs.

    These are just a few cherry-picked stats, but I can assure you that Shaddy has done a lot of minnow-bashing ever since his debut. That's okay cuz he is just a youngster but it does mean that he shouldn't be given a guaranteed spot in the XI.
    Inadís SR has been inflated in his batting and bowing due to him minnow-bashing also. He has faced countless matches against SL and WI just like Shadab.

    Heís had one good series against a quality opposition in England in 2016. Apart from that, heís been mediocore against better teams.

    Furthermore, the main difference is in age and mindset. One is young, hungry, electric in the field while the other is seasoned, reluctant to improve and lethargic in the field.

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    Countless matches against SL, WI?? When??
    His average is high because of his tour of England in 2016, where he averaged infinity.


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    DNB - - - - - - - 1 v Sri Lanka Colombo (RPS) 19 Jul 2015 ODI # 3670
    DNB - - - - - - - 2 v Sri Lanka Colombo (RPS) 22 Jul 2015 ODI # 3671
    15 23 17 2 0 88.23 7 caught 2 v Sri Lanka Hambantota 26 Jul 2015 ODI # 3672
    61 81 61 5 0 100.00 7 run out 1 v Zimbabwe Harare 1 Oct 2015 ODI # 3685
    DNB - - - - - - - 2 v Zimbabwe Harare 5 Oct 2015 ODI # 3687
    1 4 4 0 0 25.00 7 caught 2 v New Zealand Wellington 25 Jan 2016 ODI # 3728
    0* - 2 0 0 0.00 8 not out 1 v Ireland Dublin (Malahide) 18 Aug 2016 ODI # 3767
    17* 22 20 1 0 85.00 8 not out 1 v England Southampton 24 Aug 2016 ODI # 3770
    63* 104 70 5 1 90.00 7 not out 1 v England Lord's 27 Aug 2016 ODI # 3771
    57* 55 41 7 1 139.02 8 not out 1 v England Leeds 1 Sep 2016 ODI # 3775
    16* 27 19 2 0 84.21 8 not out 2 v England Cardiff 4 Sep 2016 ODI # 3777
    24 35 24 2 0 100.00 7 bowled 1 v West Indies Sharjah 30 Sep 2016 ODI # 3784
    11 20 9 1 0 122.22 6 bowled 1 v West Indies Sharjah 2 Oct 2016 ODI # 3788
    4 - 6 0 0 66.66 7 caught 1 v West Indies Abu Dhabi 5 Oct 2016 ODI # 3789
    29 54 36 1 1 80.55 7 caught 2 v Australia Brisbane 13 Jan 2017 ODI # 3817
    DNB - - - - - - - 2 v Australia Melbourne 15 Jan 2017 ODI # 3818
    9 21 13 1 0 69.23 7 caught 1 v Australia Perth 19 Jan 2017 ODI # 3820
    25 34 17 2 0 147.05 8 caught 2 v Australia Sydney 22 Jan 2017 ODI # 3822
    6* - 6 0 0 100.00 7 not out 1 v West Indies Providence 7 Apr 2017 ODI # 3861
    43* - 35 2 2 122.85 7 not out 1 v West Indies Providence 9 Apr 2017 ODI # 3862
    DNB - - - - - - - 2 v West Indies Providence 11 Apr 2017 ODI # 3863
    0 5 1 0 0 0.00 7 caught 2 v India Birmingham 4 Jun 2017 ODI # 3878
    DNB - - - - - - - 2 v South Africa Birmingham 7 Jun 2017 ODI # 3881
    4 6 3 1 0 133.33 7 caught 2 v Sri Lanka Cardiff 12 Jun 2017 ODI # 3888
    DNB - - - - - - - 2 v England Cardiff 14 Jun 2017 ODI # 3889
    25* 35 21 1 1 119.04 6 not out 1 v India The Oval 18 Jun 2017 ODI # 3894
    10* - 5 0 1 200.00 7 not out 1 v Sri Lanka Dubai (DSC) 13 Oct 2017 ODI # 3922
    10 - 26 0 0 38.46 7 lbw 1 v Sri Lanka Abu Dhabi 16 Oct 2017 ODI # 3924
    DNB - - - - - - - 2 v Sri Lanka Sharjah 20 Oct 2017 ODI # 3927
    DNB - - - - - - - 2 v Sri Lanka Sharjah 23 Oct 2017 ODI # 3930


    I rate him much higher than Nawaz because he has better ability as a bowler and batsman, and played well against England in 2016.

    I have never seen Nawaz holding the bat properly. And I agree with some PPers, one of Imad or Faheem should play based on pitch, and opposition. Faheem's batting so far has been equally poor [except for his innings against IRL, and ENG]

    Bowling wise both have similar impact, can be trusted with finishing their quota of 10 overs economicalluy with some mild success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Even then he is better than the pseudo all rounder Nawaz.

    However I'd take a specialist spinner like Gohar above these two.
    Imad and Nawaz are both pseudo all rounders.Theyre the spin versions of Anwar Ali and Bilawal Bhatti. I think I even made a thread with this title.

    Nawaz is a bit worse yes in bowling. Both have horrible batting.

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    As far as AR are concerned, we have the below 4 to look at in the immediate future:

    Shadab
    Faheem
    Imad
    Nawaz
    Talat
    Harris Sohail


    1) Shadab : Exceptional. Covered his basics in all the 3 departments of the game. Young, can go all the way to become one of the greats, provided he remain consistent, and work hard. He looks very certain starter in XI, and would rate him as:
    Bowling : 5/10 --> Still long way to go, but so far he has been doing good
    Batting : 9/10 --> His temperament, his stroke play and defense, much better than our Full time Batters
    Fielding : 9/10 --> Exceptional. I have rarely seen him doing misfields.

    2) Faheem : More so, like a bowler who can bat. He was given a very good run by the management in last one year or so. Although, he has shown his skills in bowling, but batting potential is yet to be fulfilled. Moreover, his tendency to start slogging from ball one is something not gone down well with many of the cricket experts. In limited overs cricket, I would rate him :
    Bowling : 6/10 : Can be a good 1/2/3/4 seamer for the team
    Batting : 4/10 : Except for those test innings, still waiting for him to make highlighting contribution with bat
    Fielding : 6/10 : Not bad so far.

    3) Nawaz : The least said about him the better it is. He has been given good opportunities by the management in last 2 years. What else you need as a spin bowler, if you are making test debut against WI in UAE? He not only failed, but could not even made a mark in test matches. Further, down the road he was equally poor in the matches he played. And except for few economical spells, he did not made any mark in the any of the game, and yet management persisted with him. He looks to me a second coming of Saad Nasim, who was below average in every aspect of the game. His closeness with Sarfaraz might have worked in his way to still play those many games. Unfortunately, based on his performance so far, I would not rate him good.
    Bowling : 4/10 --> Nothing to mention, not even a single match winning performance so far
    Batting : 1/10 --> Very poor with the bat
    Fielding : 8/10 --> He is very good fielder, if that is the case, then he could be perfect 12th man

    4) Imad Wasim : Started well, lost his way in between and then injuries. This is how Imad's journey been so far. A very good bowler in limited overs, and exceptional against non subcontinental teams. His batting should have flourished, given how good he was against England in England, but he could not capitalize after his good starts. I would rate him below:
    Bowling : 7/10 --> Very handy economical bowler
    Batting : 5/10 --> Lot to work on!!!!!
    Fielding : 4/10 --> Poor fitness in recent times, COMPETING with Sarfaraz on fitness levels

    5) Hussain Talat : A batting all rounder with a bowling that looks like an Indian trundler. He showed promise, and its good that he has been given a taste of international cricket. Lot to work on every aspect of the game. Below is my assessment:
    Bowling : 1/10 --> so far looks like a trundler, hopefully he can increase his pace and add variations, if he needs to be considered as an All rounder.
    Batting : 5/10 --> Technically, need to work on many areas. Temperament wise he is good.
    Fielding : 5/10 --> Not too bad

    6) Haris Sohail : For some reasons he is not bowling, and I dont know why. He can be a good spin option unless he has lost the art of bowling. After coming back into the team, he has showed some promise, but again he does not have temperament to play big innings. Below is the rating:
    Bowling : 0/10 --> Not BOWLING
    Batting : 6/10 --> Good technique, but has to take more responsibility
    Fielding : 3/10 --> Not the best

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    Imad is an average cricketer and should be no where near the side.

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    For T20I's, he should be back in the squad at least, if not the playing 11, he's a vital player in the shorter format, was number 1 bowler for a reason. For ODI's, it's a bit more complicated. I think, unless he has a great CPL, he can't really just walk back in for the Asia Cup squad as that would be unfair on Nawaz.

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    There is so much competition around the limited overs side that Imad making a comeback should be very difficult. There are better bowlers, batsmen, all rounders, fielders and thinkers in the squads now than there were 18 months ago when Imad was probably at his best.

    Having said that, there is no reason he can not make a come back if he performs very well in the CPL and then in any other matches he may play. I think the current list of top 15 or 16 in a squad is better than him so it will be hard work.

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    Good news, hopefully he can get back into rhythm as well.

    All the posters bashing him, there is a competition between him and Nawaz for that 3rd all rounder in the squad along with Shadab and Faheem. Who is the spin all rounder do you suggest for that 3rd all rounder place? There arent many.

    Nawaz though has bit more variety to his spin bowling but to me Imad has shown better game sense and he is also more experienced and is groomed for a role that is required of him.

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    He is a vital cog in our team, he holds one end pretty well which is the requirement with attacking bowlers like Hassan and Shadab who can leak runs sometimes and some guys like it or not many international batsmen struggles to understand his drift.

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    Nawaz has done decently with the opportunities that he got but I guess in ODIs he will have to wait for his turn. Other thing can be that he stays and Yasir makes the way but then in a pure spinner's spot Nawaz will have to compete with the likes of Mir, Gohar, Raza Hassan etc.

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    I like Fahim more so far, but he should be in the squad. Fahim's bowling seems better to me.

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    Agreed, I don't understand some of the poster's comments here. One more attribute that Imad brings is his leadership skills, which Idk anyone after Sarfaraz we have. So he is also suited for a scneario of need of stand-in captain or VC. Otherwise we have to carry Hafeez to do that captaincy role.

    And also, he is not competing with Faheem for AR spot. His competition is with Nawaz and many others spin bowlers who can bring something else to the table.

    As far as Shadab goes, he has established himself as good AR, and is an easy replacement for Hafeez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InziRules View Post
    I like Fahim more so far, but he should be in the squad. Fahim's bowling seems better to me.
    Faheem was in the squad even when Imad was there and he isnt going anywhere. It will only be the rotation between Faheem, Imad and Shadab according to the conditions.

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    Lets wait for Nawaz and play against India in Asia Cup games.
    I realize that Imad has become last choice, even though he is better than Nawaz because of his bashing he received from Pandya...

    Lets wait for Nawaz to clear that Litmus test in September.

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    Imho he isn't needed at all


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    Quote Originally Posted by iniqbal223 View Post
    Agreed, I don't understand some of the poster's comments here. One more attribute that Imad brings is his leadership skills, which Idk anyone after Sarfaraz we have. So he is also suited for a scneario of need of stand-in captain or VC. Otherwise we have to carry Hafeez to do that captaincy role.

    And also, he is not competing with Faheem for AR spot. His competition is with Nawaz and many others spin bowlers who can bring something else to the table.

    As far as Shadab goes, he has established himself as good AR, and is an easy replacement for Hafeez.
    Yes he has good leadership skills and as Sarfaraz is a keeper captain its always good to have thinking minds like Malik and Imad and mid off, mid on and anywhere near the bowler.

    There will be rotation between Shadab, Imad and Faheem in the playing xi according to the conditions as we saw in CT 17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UN talkz View Post
    Imho he isn't needed at all
    He gives that extra combination depth to the squad. Shadab, Hassan, Shinwari are attacking options and can go for runs sometimes. Imad keeps the things pretty tight.

    If you remember that match vs SA in CT 17, they were going pretty well when Imad too the wicket of Amla and in the same match got ABD. The reason was he balls wicket to wicket without giving too much room and sometimes you need that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iniqbal223 View Post
    Lets wait for Nawaz and play against India in Asia Cup games.
    I realize that Imad has become last choice, even though he is better than Nawaz because of his bashing he received from Pandya...

    Lets wait for Nawaz to clear that Litmus test in September.
    He was only out bcz of injury he is still considered a main player in the team. Sarfaraz and Mickey both understand his importance. Wont be surprised if his is back in the suqad for the Asia cup replacing Yasir or Nawaz.

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    Imadís leadership has been non-existent in the international level.

    Weíve seen what he can do in KK. The captain must merit the playing XI first and foremost.

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    The only format he should play is T20s.

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    Imad may not pick up a lot of wickets but he has a 4.48 economy in 30 ODI matches. That is pretty exceptional nowadays and you can certainly do worse than him as a 5th bowling option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    He gives that extra combination depth to the squad. Shadab, Hassan, Shinwari are attacking options and can go for runs sometimes. Imad keeps the things pretty tight.

    If you remember that match vs SA in CT 17, they were going pretty well when Imad too the wicket of Amla and in the same match got ABD. The reason was he balls wicket to wicket without giving too much room and sometimes you need that.
    8 overs, 2-20 (2.50) in that match.


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    Yes, that was better than any regular bowler, that too against SA. Only thing is of big concern is, his fitness which has gone down in recent times. I hope he has improved that to be considered for selection. And from bowling point of view, he can be one directional like Jadeja[who also darts], Imad needs to vary his pace to be more values as a spinner.

    If Sarfaraz can be in team just based on his captaincy, and almost non existent performance, then Imad can come into the team.

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    Nawaz is better


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    Quote Originally Posted by Canistani Hero View Post
    Nawaz is better
    Imad Wasim belongs to the mediocre Pak team and has no place in current line up. For me, the rise of Pak cricket started after the 4th june game vs India and it was only possible when likes of Wahab and Imad were dropped. Dont think Mickey will have him back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    8 overs, 2-20 (2.50) in that match.
    Exactly that is what I am talking about. He isnt always a wicket taker but one thing that you are sure of is he is not gonna give any freebies and balls wicket to wocket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Exactly that is what I am talking about. He isnt always a wicket taker but one thing that you are sure of is he is not gonna give any freebies and balls wicket to wocket.
    Not gonna give any freebies? Bhai, Pandya thrashed him like no tomorrow for hatrick of sixes in an ODI game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canford Cliffs View Post
    Not gonna give any freebies? Bhai, Pandya thrashed him like no tomorrow for hatrick of sixes in an ODI game.
    It was good on Pandyaís part, none of them were full tosses or short balls from Imad. Even Shadab got hit bcz Pandya had nothing to lose, as India was almost already lost. We will see how many sixes he hit when there is some real expectation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canistani Hero View Post
    Nawaz is better
    Just as a spinner he is unfortunately he also couldnt get a lot of bat time in the middle, I think he has a lot of potential. Imad is more accurate I think and is more experienced and mature as a player at the moment.

    Atleast you arent bashing both Nawaz and Imad like many here who dont realize what is the squad combination for our team for a year or so which gives great batting and combination depth and has been reaping rewards. That includes 3 all rounders in the squad and atleast 2 in the playing xi. Ideally two of them spin considering the pace bowling depth we have.
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    Nawaz is in the team because of his good friend Mr. Sarfaraz.
    Both are same, both are non performers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    It was good on Pandya’s part, none of them were full tosses or short balls from Imad. Even Shadab got hit bcz Pandya had nothing to lose, as India was almost already lost. We will see how many sixes he hit when there is some real expectation.
    First of all, Pandya is a good hitter.
    Secondly, at 299/3 with last over of a spinner, who had to bowl that last over, because 2 of your premier bowlers were out injured, what a subcontinent batsman was supposed to do on a flat track?? Take singles??

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    Quote Originally Posted by iniqbal223 View Post
    First of all, Pandya is a good hitter.
    Secondly, at 299/3 with last over of a spinner, who had to bowl that last over, because 2 of your premier bowlers were out injured, what a subcontinent batsman was supposed to do on a flat track?? Take singles??
    There have been only two spinners at the death in ODIs.
    Both are chuckers.

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    At the very least, who would Imad replace? I highly doubt it'd be Shadab.

    Also people are mentioning how Imad bowling wicket-to-wicket helps create pressure on the batsmen for others to take wickets (and it does), but isn't that what Faheem does as well? So in that regard, assuming no one gets injured, is Imad really that necessary to be part of the XI? Also, he doesn't exactly fit the bill when it comes to lower order power hitting, which is the role he's supposed to have as a batsman. From what I've seen of him with the bat, his hitting zone is pretty limited (whatever boundaries he hits always seem to be leg side slogs). If he improves as a power hitter then I don't mind him being under consideration for selection.

    Overall, I don't doubt him as a bowler but I do as a batsman. For me, he's not useless but at the same time I don't think he is needed in the XI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeamPak95 View Post
    At the very least, who would Imad replace? I highly doubt it'd be Shadab.

    Also people are mentioning how Imad bowling wicket-to-wicket helps create pressure on the batsmen for others to take wickets (and it does), but isn't that what Faheem does as well? So in that regard, assuming no one gets injured, is Imad really that necessary to be part of the XI? Also, he doesn't exactly fit the bill when it comes to lower order power hitting, which is the role he's supposed to have as a batsman. From what I've seen of him with the bat, his hitting zone is pretty limited (whatever boundaries he hits always seem to be leg side slogs). If he improves as a power hitter then I don't mind him being under consideration for selection.

    Overall, I don't doubt him as a bowler but I do as a batsman. For me, he's not useless but at the same time I don't think he is needed in the XI.
    good analysis..

    But we have seen so far, Faheem batting is also not upto the mark, he got opportunities to build the innings, to slog, to do whatever he wants, but he failed except for those 2 test innings.
    Faheem is better suited for tests where u want another seamer on green wicket to keep things going.

    However in LOI, we also need other option of left arm darter to add variety to our bowling.And its a toss up between Imad & Faheem in LOIs.

    So the question is. if he can come back to the squad. HE can, he was out injured, not dropped

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    Quote Originally Posted by iniqbal223 View Post
    good analysis..

    But we have seen so far, Faheem batting is also not upto the mark, he got opportunities to build the innings, to slog, to do whatever he wants, but he failed except for those 2 test innings.
    Faheem is better suited for tests where u want another seamer on green wicket to keep things going.

    However in LOI, we also need other option of left arm darter to add variety to our bowling.And its a toss up between Imad & Faheem in LOIs.

    So the question is. if he can come back to the squad. HE can, he was out injured, not dropped

    Honestly, from what I'm seeing, Imad will at best be in the squad but not the final XI. For him to make the XI, he would have to replace one of Shadab or Faheem. I don't see Shadab being replaced by anyone, and most likely Mickey and Sarfraz are giving Faheem a long rope when it comes to his batting (between the two, Faheem > Imad when it comes to power hitting capabilities). Pertaining to Faheem's overall performance with the bat, we shall see in the upcoming series'.

    The only way I see Imad being in the XI is if he improves as a power hitter and if Shoaib Malik gets exposed by big teams (let alone against pace bowling in general) and then get dropped (I don't hate the guy but most people on PP would probably love for it to happen, even though I myself don't see it happening [him being dropped that is]). Then Pak could have a batting lineup of: Fakhar, Imam, Babar, Sarfraz, Faheem, Asif, Shadab, Imad. Improved power hitting + 2 bowlers in Faheem and Imad to create pressure with the ball to the batsmen.

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    nope no need of him. He is just not good enough. I don't want any of nawaz or imad in the side. They both have zero skills with bat and ball.

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    Should walk straight back to the XI in T20is. A clear upgrade over Nawaz in both batting and bowling department although Nawaz is a better fielder.
    For ODI's, dont think he merits a spot at the moment, but he can put forward his case if he improves his batting a lot. His bowling, we know, is very economical. He can tie up one end and can be the guy to gives away 30-40 runs in his 10 over quota, which is exceptional, although he doesnt take much wickets. But still clearly an upgrade over Nawaz in ODI's as well.

    It's not like I have something against Nawaz. Nawaz probably has the most beautiful slow left arm bowling action in the world atm, but he isnt a clutch player in both batting or bowling departments, he doesn't seem to have enough confidence in his batting nor are his batting skills as much developed. His bowling although is very similar to Imad's but Imad is likely to be more economical. In addition, Imad keeps a hold of his nerves, and is able to take pressure and hold his own both in batting and bowling, something Nawaz clearly lacks.
    Imad needs to work a LOT LOT on his left spinners, he has just been bowling in drifters for 4 years now. and his fitness as well definitely.

    Nawaz can become a good player in future, but at the moment he lacks that factor, that inspires much confidence amonth his team mates.
    If pak needs 10 runs in last over, i would back Imad to get us over the line rather than Nawaz who doesn't have the temperament i believe atm.

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    Good days for @Rayyman.
    @Rayyman doing bhangra right now.

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    Reportedly failed the fitness test at the camp ahead of the Asia Cup, the only player to do so.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    Reportedly failed the fitness test at the camp ahead of the Asia Cup, the only player to do so.
    Rayyman will say you are spreading hate .

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    Mickey's first priority is fitness but i don't know why this guy is being considered for selection even with below par fitness while some others are ignored just because of poor fitness.

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    Media reports saying that he may have failed second test also

    Dont understand how cpl team had him playing for them


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    Glad he failed the fitness test

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    Not included in Asia Cup squad!


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    Good days for @Rayyman.
    Oops.

    Is he going back to the CPL?

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    Even though i dont like him but i can see him making a comeback to the side because Nawaz is a dud and we dont have a better spin bowling all rounder atm other than Shadab.

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    A guy who can't even pass a fitness test has the audacity to copy Ronaldo's celebration.

    He wouldn't know hard work if it slapped him in the face.

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    If Imad really wants to be a part of the team and setup then he really needs to work on his fitness. If he doesn't then he can more than easily play T20 Leagues around the world.

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    He's playing for Islamabad, today he scored 56* of 37 balls.

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    A Pakistan victory in Asia Cup could change the equation for Imad; but good for Pakistan if Imad works doubly hard in domestic and PSL and then gets himself back in contention for the World Cup


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    Imad has been missed in this tournament.


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