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    No one will die: Dean Jones on India’s back-to-back matches in 2018 Asia Cup [Post #154]

    Virender Sehwag has slammed the shocking schedule at the Asia Cup where India have been scheduled to play One Day Internationals on back-to-back days on September 18 and 19.

    India will be playing two ODIs on consecutive days according to the schedule released for the biennial tournament -- set to take place in the UAE from September 15.

    Defending champions India will face arch-rivals Pakistan on September 19 in their second match of the 2018 Asia Cup.

    Group A consists of India, Pakistan and the yet-to-be-decided qualifier while Group B comprises Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Afghanistan. The top two teams from each group will qualify for the Super 4 and two teams will then play the final on 28 September in Dubai.

    "I am really shocked to see the scheduling because which country plays back-to-back cricket matches these days? There was a gap of two days in between the T20 matches in England and here you are playing ODIs under hot Dubai weather and that too without a break. So, I don't think this is a correct scheduling," Sehwag told India TV.

    "Why there's such hue and cry over playing the Asia Cup? Don't play the Asia Cup. Prepare the team for the home series or the away series. It's really difficult to play back-to-back games," Sehwag said.

    Sehwag said a player needs time to attain full fitness after playing a match and BCCI should have at least rescheduled India's Asia Cup match against the qualifier on September 18.

    "There shouldn't be any back-to-back games. If the BCCI had to cancel anything then it should have been the qualifier game in the Asia Cup rather than reducing the four-day practice match against Essex to three days. A player needs at least 48 hours to recover after playing an ODI match because you field for 3.5 hours and after that if you bat for 2 hours then it makes your total time spend on the ground to 5.5 hours. So, it takes a minimum of 24 to 48 hours for a player to recover," he said.

    The legendary batsman also said playing back-to-back days will tire the Indian players and that will give Pakistan the advantage going into the match.

    "When Team India will play the Asia Cup in Dubai in September, there will be too much heat and it will hamper the players' recovery process. Pakistan will be in a good shape whereas the Indian players will be tired. And if we end up losing the match, then there might be a problem as we all are very passionate whenever we play against Pakistan. We always want India to win against Pakistan but if the Indian players are tired then Pakistan will definitely have the advantage," he said.

    Bangladesh and Sri Lanka will play the tournament opener in Dubai on September 15. The title clash will be played on September 28 also in Dubai.

    The 2018 edition of the tournament will be played in 50-over format with the 50-over World Cup scheduled to be held in England and Wales in 2019. The previous Asia Cup was played in the T20 format as it preceded the 2016 World T20.

    https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cri...681-2018-07-26


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    He is not incorrect though. Playing back to back 50 overs game in the heat of Dubai takes a lot out of you. And that too 1 week after the gruelling test series. Why ACC cant reschedule the matches??
    Last edited by Canford Cliffs; 26th July 2018 at 09:57.

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    Another option is, play the 1st match against Pakistan where players will be relatively fresh. Next day have the game with the qualifying team. In that way, India can rest many of its players.

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    Sep 18th match will be with Nepal/UAE level team. Guess even organizers thought that it wouldn't be much of a stretch

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    Viru is correct. Even BCCI has slammed the scheduling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Viru is correct. Even BCCI has slammed the scheduling.
    Here everyone was saying BCCI scheduled it just an excuse when they lose to Pak. Can you confirm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canford Cliffs View Post
    Here everyone was saying BCCI scheduled it just an excuse when they lose to Pak. Can you confirm?
    Bcci called it mindless scheduling.

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    Asia Cup is anyways a useless competition. India should troll everyone by playing an India C team in one of the two matches.

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    India C should be like:-

    Iyer(C)
    Shaw
    Gill
    Pandey
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    Samson(wkt)
    Krunal
    Sundar
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    Top team like India shouldn't worry about minnow teams like Pakistan etc...
    Should be a walk in the park for India even if they bat with their eyes closed. Unless Pakistan somehow fluke it

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    Yep. Should just focus on the home series against the windies and then the Australian tour.


    'There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    Asia Cup is anyways a useless competition. India should troll everyone by playing an India C team in one of the two matches.
    Asia Cup is useless, CT is useless, tests are useless, bilaterals are useless so what is not useless these days?

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    The schedule is pathetic and absurd on so many levels

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Asia Cup is useless, CT is useless, tests are useless, bilaterals are useless so what is not useless these days?
    Aap ne topic pe toh comment hi nahi kiya janab.. Moreover about the comment from your idol

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    If teams can play test matches in UAE over 5 days, then whats the deal with playing back to back ODIs?

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    The schedule is really poor. Two 50 over games in two days is difficult.

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    Just a cry baby... Last year he was all about baap beta thing and now he is scared. india will still win against pakistan but he is being a cry baby.
    Remember Sahara Cup in 90s India vs pakistan straight 5 days in a row... No one ever complained about it


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    Quote Originally Posted by todfod 11 View Post
    Just a cry baby... Last year he was all about baap beta thing and now he is scared. india will still win against pakistan but he is being a cry baby.
    Remember Sahara Cup in 90s India vs pakistan straight 5 days in a row... No one ever complained about it
    Yup...playing in Canada and playing in the UAE are one and the same...brilliant!


    Win or lose - it is Team INDIA I choose...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    India C should be like:-

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    Shaw
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    Would still win the Asia Cup with ease

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Asia Cup is useless, CT is useless, tests are useless, bilaterals are useless so what is not useless these days?
    CT is not useless but the kind of celebrations happen makes you feel it is something really special.

    Tests are not useless at all.

    Asia cup are useless because it basically reminds of the usual India-Sri Lanka-Banglandesh or Pakistan-SL-Ban matches which keeps happening twice a year. I would prefer a bilateral between India and SA/Eng/NZ/Aus over the Asia cup.

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    If I was Kohli, I would have rested from Asia cup and the home series against WI to prepare for the Australia tour. Now let the kids talk whatever, it shouldn't really matter to him.

    I mean in what world, you play 5 tests in England and then an Asia cup and that is again followed by a home series vs WI and then we have Border-Gavaskar trophy, all in 6 months gap.

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    Nice, excuse is already there if India lose.

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    Lol match hone to do. Abhi se rona shuru


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    Once again, the game on September 19th is a dead-rubber. It's not as big a deal as people are making it out to be.

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    Yeah so unfair.

    But playing mindless 20/20 slogathon over 6 weeks doesn’t take anything out of a players body.

    Either don’t play it or play players that do want to play it.

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    It's not ideal but it's not that big of a deal as one of the matches will be against a qualifier so they could rotate the players around anyway. But the scheduling overall is stupid, I can't really disagree with that.

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    India might as well play a second string team against the qualifier in the first match then play a full strength XI against Pak if that's a problem.

    Pak on the other hand better make sure they out bat India then knock over the stumps when they come out to bowl. I'm hoping for a change in advantage in Pak's favour ever since Sarfraz took over the captaincy.

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    Already coming up with excuses. LOL. Looks like Virender Sehwag of all people has learnt his lesson.

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    India should send a second string side to the Asia Cup. Pointless sending the likes of Kohli and Dhoni against some bottom ranked opponents.

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    If pak would have to play back to back odi game in uae.. just curious what these folks would be saying..😂😂

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    Their just looking for excuses lol even if India had a 5 or 7 day rest in between the match they will still have the same result which is their still going to lose such an overrated team

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    If India do beat us then a lot of posters on here who seem so confident that we'll beat them are going to be left with egg on their faces.

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    Actually he is right on scheduling part. How can they ask a team to play back to back one days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canford Cliffs View Post
    Another option is, play the 1st match against Pakistan where players will be relatively fresh. Next day have the game with the qualifying team. In that way, India can rest many of its players.


    Or yet another way would be to dictate who gets picked in Pak team, maybe bowlers bat first and batters bat last in Pak team, Umpires should be blind when India bats and not when Pak bats, Indian batters given 2 lives each for being Rockstars etc.

    I mean, come on, can any one nation tops these complaints: pitches as per touring (read: Indian) team requests, practice match days reduced etc. Did BCCI not agree on this schedule before hand and not see the same problem, after all according to all Indians they are the best managed and most brilliant board in the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    If India do beat us then a lot of posters on here who seem so confident that we'll beat them are going to be left with egg on their faces.


    In this thread, how many of those posters made such comments, please elighten us?

    Remember sarcastic comments should not be included

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    Take 22 players for Asia cup.

    Play 2nd 11 against qualifier.
    1st choice 11 against Pak and further games.

    This way we can check our bench strength as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monsee View Post
    In this thread, how many of those posters made such comments, please elighten us?

    Remember sarcastic comments should not be included
    Not just this thread, but in quite a few others as well, some Pakistan fans seem very confident we will beat them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    Not just this thread, but in quite a few others as well, some Pakistan fans seem very confident we will beat them.


    Then your comment should be directed differently rather than 'If India do beat us then a lot of posters on here'

    Seems to imply this thread only!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canford Cliffs View Post
    Another option is, play the 1st match against Pakistan where players will be relatively fresh. Next day have the game with the qualifying team. In that way, India can rest many of its players.
    Quote Originally Posted by ExplicitAI View Post
    India might as well play a second string team against the qualifier in the first match then play a full strength XI against Pak if that's a problem.

    Pak on the other hand better make sure they out bat India then knock over the stumps when they come out to bowl. I'm hoping for a change in advantage in Pak's favour ever since Sarfraz took over the captaincy.
    We would they do that when they can play the best XI vs the qualifier, beat them and clinch and then rest some players in the dead rubber vs Pakistan the next day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monsee View Post
    Then your comment should be directed differently rather than 'If India do beat us then a lot of posters on here'

    Seems to imply this thread only!
    I do apologize. Please forgive me for this huge sin I have committed. By 'here' I meant PakPassion in general, I personally don't like to speak too much before games, because at the end of the day, who plays better wins.

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    That’s a pretty demanding schedule

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohli, The King of Chase View Post
    Take 22 players for Asia cup.

    Play 2nd 11 against qualifier.
    1st choice 11 against Pak and further games.

    This way we can check our bench strength as well.
    The question should be: Why a schedule of a tournament is such that it forces a team to think about resting some players or getting overwhelmed by back to back matches.

    Sehwag does not have good image after CT fiasco but he has a genuine point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nextover666666 View Post
    Their just looking for excuses lol even if India had a 5 or 7 day rest in between the match they will still have the same result which is their still going to lose such an overrated team
    If result is so certain, why these teams are even playing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    Already coming up with excuses. LOL. Looks like Virender Sehwag of all people has learnt his lesson.
    Instead of excuse, it seems a genuine concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    I do apologize. Please forgive me for this huge sin I have committed. By 'here' I meant PakPassion in general, I personally don't like to speak too much before games, because at the end of the day, who plays better wins.



    Adiyalla Jail, off you go :-P

    I was just pointing it out because we always have to have someone be the 'Truth Teller' even when it does not need to be told especially since no one was saying such things in the thread up until that time!

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    Who was responsible for such schedule? I don't recall having back to back ODI international for any team.


    "If this happens I will swim across the Charles River! In winter!" -- OZGOD on NZ batting 6 sessions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffet View Post
    Who was responsible for such schedule? I don't recall having back to back ODI international for any team.


    Better question is "Why did it take for a clown to point out such an issue? Was BCCI asleep when this schedule was decided upon and then shared with them?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monsee View Post
    Better question is "Why did it take for a clown to point out such an issue? Was BCCI asleep when this schedule was decided upon and then shared with them?"
    Bcci has already objected to the schedule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monsee View Post
    Or yet another way would be to dictate who gets picked in Pak team, maybe bowlers bat first and batters bat last in Pak team, Umpires should be blind when India bats and not when Pak bats, Indian batters given 2 lives each for being Rockstars etc.

    I mean, come on, can any one nation tops these complaints: pitches as per touring (read: Indian) team requests, practice match days reduced etc. Did BCCI not agree on this schedule before hand and not see the same problem, after all according to all Indians they are the best managed and most brilliant board in the world?
    Can you give a source for the Indian team requesting certain types of pitches for actual matches, or is this just one more unsubstantiated post of yours? Australia, South Africa, etc whine about the pitches in India. India is fine with playing on whatever pitch is offered. Shastri just said this recently. They didn't even complain about the pitch for the 3rd test in South Africa, even though it was outright dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaag viru bhaag View Post
    asia cup is useless, ct is useless, tests are useless, bilaterals are useless so what is not useless these days?
    ipl?

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    The crying has started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    ipl?
    Spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    The crying has started.
    Any reason why India should play 2 consecutive days while others get rest days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackShadow View Post
    India should send a second string side to the Asia Cup. Pointless sending the likes of Kohli and Dhoni against some bottom ranked opponents.
    It's because of fans like you Pakistani fans still celebrate their CT win right on our faces. And I don't blame them for this.

    Look at the overconfidence and disrespect some of you show for other teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Any reason why India should play 2 consecutive days while others get rest days?
    Schedule should be changed. They can have Ban vs Afg on 19th and Ind vs Pak on 20th. I don't think it is that difficult to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffet View Post
    Who was responsible for such schedule? I don't recall having back to back ODI international for any team.
    The only one I remember was in Champions Trophy 2002 final. When Sri Lanka made 230 something against India and it rained heavily in the second inning. Next day, the match started again from scratch and Sri Lanka once again made 230 something. India couldn't complete their inning again after it rained and the trophy was shared.

    It was India's trophy but had to share with Sri Lanka because of rain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    It's because of fans like you Pakistani fans still celebrate their CT win right on our faces. And I don't blame them for this.

    Look at the overconfidence and disrespect some of you show for other teams.
    Stated facts... checking ranking of teams

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    Scheduling for the matches is a bit confusing.But calling for a boycott of the Asia Cup is stupid.

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    Indians and Viru are scared of another thrashing from the old enemy.


    Lions don't lose sleep over the opinions of Sheep

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    It's because of fans like you Pakistani fans still celebrate their CT win right on our faces. And I don't blame them for this.
    Look at the overconfidence and disrespect some of you show for other teams.
    May be they do, and I don't mind it. I see no reason to change my ways just because fans likes of you get upset over Pakistani fans celebrating a fluke win. Besides, if it wasn't for posters like me, who would you quote for these easy brownie points?

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    Since Pakistan ravaging victory in the CT final proves that fluke can happen against any cricket team, Pak should send its C team. If we beat them again, or rather thrash them, it will be a fluke or else it's already known that they are capable of beating us 9 out of 10 times. By the way, what is Pak record in the last 10 ODIs against Ind? I am sure it is 9-1 Ind.

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    An overreaction, how surprising. It's not a big deal, the schedule can be changed. Instead of threatening to not play they should request ACC to fix the schedule.
    Last edited by Darkrai; 26th July 2018 at 17:56.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkrai View Post
    An overreaction, how surprising. It's not a big deal, the schedule can be changed. Instead of threatening to not play they should request ACC to fix the schedule.
    Question is why such a schedule was made singling out the Indian team and that too before a match againist Pakistan?

    What was the ACC president Najam Sethi thinking?

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    It is a kaanspiracy against the best team in the world.

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    Their anger is justified.

    If they take a large squad (20-22) players, chemistry goes out the window. You're not allowing the team to gel in UAE conditions because two different XIs will play.

    If they take a regular squad, multiple players will end up participating in both games even if the top guys are rested.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CricVet View Post
    It is a kaanspiracy against the best team in the world.
    No.2 ranked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Question is why such a schedule was made singling out the Indian team and that too before a match againist Pakistan?

    What was the ACC president Najam Sethi thinking?
    It don't matter what Sethi was thinking, he can't make the Indian team lose. I doubt it will be more than a practice for India against whoever qualifies.

    But like i said it can be fixed. If they don't fix it then i can understand the anger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mp812rediff View Post
    Stated facts... checking ranking of teams
    May be you are new to Ind vs Pak cricket but ranking don't matter much when India and Pakistan play against each other. CT Final is the latest example of this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackShadow View Post
    May be they do, and I don't mind it. I see no reason to change my ways just because fans likes of you get upset over Pakistani fans celebrating a fluke win. Besides, if it wasn't for posters like me, who would you quote for these easy brownie points?
    So when we win it becomes a hard fought
    win, when others win it becomes a fluke? You are right you won't change your ways. It takes guts to accept your defeat and the easiest way is to become a sore loser.

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    Should have thought about it before agreeing to the schedule. Call it off if you want, I don't care about the Asia Cup at all.


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    they have started excusing almost 50 days before the tournament starts

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    India must test youngsters like Shaw, Gill, Pant, Mavi, Nagarkoti, Siraj etc.

    No point playing Kohli, Sharma, Dhawan, Kuldeep, BK and Bumrah. We all know what these guys can do.

    Another golden opportunity to test Bench Strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakLFC View Post
    Should have thought about it before agreeing to the schedule. Call it off if you want, I don't care about the Asia Cup at all.


    That is exactly the point, it is not like they were not made aware of the schedule once it was finalized. They only woke up until the clown mentioned it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sachin136 View Post
    Can you give a source for the Indian team requesting certain types of pitches for actual matches, or is this just one more unsubstantiated post of yours? Australia, South Africa, etc whine about the pitches in India. India is fine with playing on whatever pitch is offered. Shastri just said this recently. They didn't even complain about the pitch for the 3rd test in South Africa, even though it was outright dangerous.


    Are you for real, there is a thread on the front page about this ongoing tour match and the pitch they moaned about...they have done this in Australia I believe in the past, NZ tour (those drop in pitches issue a while back) etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakLFC View Post
    Should have thought about it before agreeing to the schedule. Call it off if you want, I don't care about the Asia Cup at all.
    Where did you learn that the BCCI agreed to this schedule? BCCI has already asked for a change in the schedule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monsee View Post
    That is exactly the point, it is not like they were not made aware of the schedule once it was finalized. They only woke up until the clown mentioned it!
    So you have a source that says BCCI agreed to ths schedule and protested only after Sehwag said something? Or is it another one of your imaginations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Where did you learn that the BCCI agreed to this schedule? BCCI has already asked for a change in the schedule.
    So India were gonna take part in the competition without the BCCI agreeing? Their name was in the tournament without asking anyone?


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    Quote Originally Posted by kuskash View Post
    If result is so certain, why these teams are even playing?
    because its Asia cup and their schedule to play each other lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakLFC View Post
    So India were gonna take part in the competition without the BCCI agreeing? Their name was in the tournament without asking anyone?
    Taking part in the tournament and agreeing to the schedule are two different things. The schedule came out couple of days back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fluke View Post
    they have started excusing almost 50 days before the tournament starts
    Best part is that it has came from the infamous Virender baap bapp hota hai Sehwag.


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