England vs India | 4th Test | Southampton | August 30-September 3, 2018 | Day 2 Thread

**NeVerMind** · 31st August 2018, 15:14

Originally Posted by MoJoJoJo

I don't know why this guy was dropped in the first place. Excellent all rounder.

Moeen, Stokes, Waokes and now Curran...England blessed with the best all rounders...

**Justcrazy** · 31st August 2018, 15:17

Ashwin is a tough nut to crack.

**MMHS** · 31st August 2018, 15:17

Originally Posted by MoJoJoJo

I don't know why this guy was dropped in the first place. Excellent all rounder.

50 Tests, 2500 runs at 32+ with 5 hundreds and 133 wickets at 40 with 9 innings of 4 or more wickets and a 10 for ... that's handy in any consideration.

**Gabbar Singh** · 31st August 2018, 15:17

Lmao what is Ashwin doing.

**Varun** · 31st August 2018, 15:18

Woohoo. 6 down to all out at the speed of light.

**happydavy** · 31st August 2018, 15:18

Originally Posted by MenInG

2+2 = 5.

2+2 getting close to 4

**troodon** · 31st August 2018, 15:18

India will concede 30 run lead as expected.

Stupid shot from Ashwin.

Meen destroying Indian batting once again.

**NeVerMind** · 31st August 2018, 15:19

Ali has 3! Ashwin gone!!

**Justcrazy** · 31st August 2018, 15:19

Originally Posted by MMHS

This guy Pandeya has an unique quality of self destructing. Playing Off-spin is his strength and 2/3 overs, he could have forced Moeen out of attack - instead scoops a dolly at an uncanny spot, put exactly for that shot. Game actually swinging in ENG's favor inch by inch. If Moeen troubles IND batsmen such on Day 2, a target of 200 won't be easy here.

India are playing pandaya , so that he improves himself for Australian tour. India have understood that three pacers plus one spinner is not enough for Australia. They need another bowler.

**AFM** · 31st August 2018, 15:19

Originally Posted by Gabbar Singh

Lmao what is Ashwin doing.

Not everyone can reverse sweep the beard

**Ab Fan** · 31st August 2018, 15:19

Beard showing the world his value.

**battler** · 31st August 2018, 15:19

Moeen destroying India yet again

**InziRules** · 31st August 2018, 15:19

Moeen Ali LOOOOOOL

**battler** · 31st August 2018, 15:20

What the hell is going on?

**troodon** · 31st August 2018, 15:20

5'fer for Moeen?

This is ridiculous.

**NeVerMind** · 31st August 2018, 15:21

Originally Posted by Mamoon

Moeen is the epitome of mediocrity. He might surprise a team and run through them once, but he doesn’t have the quality to consistently trouble teams.

I don’t think he will have a honeymoon series against India again.

And a 4th...on a hat trick for Moeen! Shami gone!!!

**InziRules** · 31st August 2018, 15:21

Shami now ***

:

**sensible-indian-fan** · 31st August 2018, 15:21

As i say every game is different.

Moenalaritharan destroying us.

**Justcrazy** · 31st August 2018, 15:21

India trail by 51 runs right now.

**JaDed** · 31st August 2018, 15:21

Morning Ali and Curran destroying us as expected.

**troodon** · 31st August 2018, 15:21

Looks like we will not even score 200

Horrible batting from the tail.

**Varun** · 31st August 2018, 15:21

Pujara isn't the handiest batsman to have around in this situation tbh.

**RainMan_** · 31st August 2018, 15:21

Moeen got three wickets?

So Indians can't bat against swing, can't bat against bouncy deliveries and can't bat against spin either.

What can they do?

Indian batting in overseas condition is on par with Bangladesh, Srilanka and WI.

**AFM** · 31st August 2018, 15:21

On a hattrick

**sensible-indian-fan** · 31st August 2018, 15:21

Shameless batting.

**happydavy** · 31st August 2018, 15:22

Originally Posted by MenInG

2+2 = 5.

Commentators getting excited about the spin Moen Ali getting and talking about how Ashwin will be quite a handful. Ashwin has no flight no loop, he only gets wickets by variations. Ashwin figure would probably be scored of at 4+ per over and will take one or 2 tailenders wickets

**MMHS** · 31st August 2018, 15:22

Originally Posted by Justcrazy

India are playing pandaya , so that he improves himself for Australian tour. India have understood that three pacers plus one spinner is not enough for Australia. They need another bowler.

He won't do any dodo with ball in AUS. If they really want 5 bowlers, best tactics is to play 3 pacers including BK for his batting, Ashwin who can bat and a traditional Leg spinner. These days spin playing quality is such that a good leg spinner like Mishra or Chahal will trouble Aussie batsmen more than Pandeya at his fastest.

**JaDed** · 31st August 2018, 15:23

Series is done, no point in watching it now .

**Varun** · 31st August 2018, 15:23

Kohli basically carries this team.

**troodon** · 31st August 2018, 15:23

Moeen Ali always destroys India in England.

Then goes to India as a lone spinner and gets destroyed there.

What an enigma Moeen Ali is.

**Ab Fan** · 31st August 2018, 15:23

Bottlers for a reason.

**Ab Fan** · 31st August 2018, 15:23

Go and prepare for the Australia humiliation now.

**NeVerMind** · 31st August 2018, 15:24

Moeen gets standing ovation from the English fans...they must really love mediocre players...

**the_outsider** · 31st August 2018, 15:24

Originally Posted by MMHS

50 Tests, 2500 runs at 32+ with 5 hundreds and 133 wickets at 40 with 9 innings of 4 or more wickets and a 10 for ... that's handy in any consideration.

Those are not "excellent" figures as @MoJoJoJo suggests. But he's a very good all-arounder nonetheless.

**MoJoJoJo** · 31st August 2018, 15:24

I am wondering where is @Mamoon

**lehen** · 31st August 2018, 15:24

Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan

Shameless batting.

Expected, If Kohli does not score, This Indian line up will not score 250+ Ever this is surely A 400+ pitch, India can't chase anything above 120 on any pitch

**Ab Fan** · 31st August 2018, 15:24

And Pujara will tuk-tuk from one end.

**MMHS** · 31st August 2018, 15:24

It was a stupidity of highest order for ENG selectors to drop Moeen against IND, after last series and last year, when he was MoS against SAF. In fact, instead of this guy Root, ENG should appoint Moeen as Captain and allow Root to focus on batting.

**lehen** · 31st August 2018, 15:25

Originally Posted by Varun

Kohli basically carries this team.

and that does not happen much, doesn't do it enough I am afraid

series 4-1 now

**RainMan_** · 31st August 2018, 15:25

India won the 3ed test only because of England's pathetic slip catching. Otherwise they would've trailed by 3-0 by now..

They don't deserve to be no 1 with such mediocre batting lineup.

**Pete Rose** · 31st August 2018, 15:26

India is playing some thoughtless cricket right now

**Pete Rose** · 31st August 2018, 15:26

Originally Posted by RainMan_

India won the 3ed test only because of England's pathetic slip catching. Otherwise they would've trailed by 3-0 by now..

They don't deserve to be no 1 with such mediocre batting lineup.

ah yes, the regulars are coming back.

**happydavy** · 31st August 2018, 15:26

Hehe Pujara not taking singles as if he's going to score like Kohli.

**NeVerMind** · 31st August 2018, 15:26

Originally Posted by MoJoJoJo

I am wondering where is @Mamoon

Where do you think his post calling Moeen 'mediocre' and India not falling for him again rank amongst his numerous goofs?

**troodon** · 31st August 2018, 15:27

Hat-Trick for Moeen

**InziRules** · 31st August 2018, 15:28

How do Indians do it though? Moeen is hardly a world beater, and they play Herath and co with ease

**Justcrazy** · 31st August 2018, 15:28

Sharma can stick around if there is a proper batsman at the other end.

**the_outsider** · 31st August 2018, 15:28

Still backing India to win the test.

**Napa** · 31st August 2018, 15:29

Really loose batting by the Indians, with Pant, Pandya and Ashwin mostly to blame!

**MMHS** · 31st August 2018, 15:29

Originally Posted by the_outsider

Those are not "excellent" figures as @MoJoJoJo suggests. But he's a very good all-arounder nonetheless.

Actually excellent, if you consider that most of his Tests are not on spin friendly wickets.

**Bhaag Viru Bhaag** · 31st August 2018, 15:29

Golden boy Pandya back to his best.

**mp812rediff** · 31st August 2018, 15:29

i guess India has lost a key session of this test and possibly the series... unless of course something miraculous happens in second innings that puts them right back

**happydavy** · 31st August 2018, 15:30

To be fair Ishu seems to be the most assured batsman against Ali

**Varun** · 31st August 2018, 15:32

Originally Posted by happydavy

To be fair Ishu seems to be the most assured batsman against Ali

He better, because Bumrah is a proper XI who by his own admission the other day hasn't faced a single ball in the nets since the IPL.

**sensible-indian-fan** · 31st August 2018, 15:32

Originally Posted by InziRules

How do Indians do it though? Moeen is hardly a world beater, and they play Herath and co with ease

Ise kehte hain talent.

They will crumble to Herath outsode Asia too.

**InziRules** · 31st August 2018, 15:32

England could (and should) have played Woakes over Rashid here

**Bhaag Viru Bhaag** · 31st August 2018, 15:32

Originally Posted by MMHS

This guy Pandeya has an unique quality of self destructing. Playing Off-spin is his strength and 2/3 overs, he could have forced Moeen out of attack - instead scoops a dolly at an uncanny spot, put exactly for that shot. Game actually swinging in ENG's favor inch by inch. If Moeen troubles IND batsmen such on Day 2, a target of 200 won't be easy here.

Pandya's 5fer will hurt India in the long run.

**Justcrazy** · 31st August 2018, 15:32

200 up for India

**sensible-indian-fan** · 31st August 2018, 15:33

Ashwin needs to be flogged.

This is why i dont rate that idiot's batting.

Lotsa talent, ghanta application.

**troodon** · 31st August 2018, 15:33

Well at least we scored 200.

201/8.

Just cut down the lead to 20 and hope for the best in 2nd innings.

**InziRules** · 31st August 2018, 15:33

Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan

Ise kehte hain talent.

They will crumble to Herath outsode Asia too.

You know, I expected us to collapse to Moeen after you guys did it. We didn't, we have zero issues playing him.

If our batting can play Moeen, how in the world can yours not, even with pressure?

**Varun** · 31st August 2018, 15:33

In Eng-frikkin-land we make Anderson go wicketless and then give three to Ali.

**sensible-indian-fan** · 31st August 2018, 15:34

Originally Posted by InziRules

You know, I expected us to collapse to Moeen after you guys did it. We didn't, we have zero issues playing him.

If our batting can play Moeen, how in the world can yours not, even with pressure?

Some things cant be explained.

Ishant playing Moeen like a pro.

**troodon** · 31st August 2018, 15:34

Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan

Ashwin needs to be flogged.

This is why i dont rate that idiot's batting.

He was one batsman who could have stayed with Pujara and India would have easily gotten the lead. But he decided to play a pathetic shot.

**mkyawar** · 31st August 2018, 15:34

Originally Posted by InziRules

England could (and should) have played Woakes over Rashid here

woakes is injured. Should have played Pope and stuck with him

**Bhaag Viru Bhaag** · 31st August 2018, 15:34

Originally Posted by mp812rediff

i guess India has lost a key session of this test and possibly the series... unless of course something miraculous happens in second innings that puts them right back

What's your opinion on Pant? You were very keen to see him play for India.

**InziRules** · 31st August 2018, 15:35

Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag

What's your opinion on Pant? You were very keen to see him play for India.

Even as a Pakistani, I can see he's been better than the disasterclass of Karthik

**Ab Fan** · 31st August 2018, 15:36

Originally Posted by InziRules

England could (and should) have played Woakes over Rashid here

Woakes is injured.

**Justcrazy** · 31st August 2018, 15:36

Can Pujara get his hundred here

**happydavy** · 31st August 2018, 15:36

Originally Posted by Varun

He better, because Bumrah is a proper XI who by his own admission the other day hasn't faced a single ball in the nets since the IPL.

If these 2 can get India to 225, I ll consider it a massively successful partnership. For that ishu ll have to score 15 of those 25 runs as Pujara can't.

**MMHS** · 31st August 2018, 15:37

Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag

What's your opinion on Pant? You were very keen to see him play for India.

Actually, there is a thick line between Test batting and LO batting on belters and 60 metre grounds. But, surprising that Pant has a FC stats like 55/90 for almost 2K runs!!!

**Ab Fan** · 31st August 2018, 15:37

A hundred for Pujara would mean India are still there in the game.

**Justcrazy** · 31st August 2018, 15:37

Sharma looking assured against spin here .

**Varun** · 31st August 2018, 15:38

Ishant showing how it's done!

**InziRules** · 31st August 2018, 15:38

England batting clicks once per series. If it happens in the second innings, India loses the series.

**happydavy** · 31st August 2018, 15:38

Is Pujara drunk or wot. Refusing a single on 4th ball of the over.

**Mainul** · 31st August 2018, 15:39

From this position it's England's match to loose. India has lost a golden opportunity here.

**Justcrazy** · 31st August 2018, 15:39

India trail by only 39 runs here

**Mainul** · 31st August 2018, 15:40

Pujara should try to play a T20 knock from now on.

**Arham_PakFan** · 31st August 2018, 15:40

Good batting by Pujara

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