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    PTI Govt notifies new Economic Advisory Council, Atif Mian is included

    So PTI Govt included an Ahmedi Economist Atif Mian in their team let's see how the media highlight this in a positive/negative way

    Atif Mian is an Ahmedi Pakistani-American economist. He is the first person of Pakistani origin to rank among the top 25 young economists of the world. His work involves the connections between finance and the macro economy.





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    I personally think Jibran and a few others shouldn't have tweeted this because not many people were aware of the fact that Atif Mian is part of EAC and he is an Ahmedi but now there is a whole campaign over social media against PTI for appointing an Ahmedi and i hope extreme maulvis stay calm.


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    I am worried whether this is a case of too many cooks spoil the broth

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    Excellent move but will receive backlash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebGuru View Post
    I personally think Jibran and a few others shouldn't have tweeted this because not many people were aware of the fact that Atif Mian is part of EAC and he is an Ahmedi but now there is a whole campaign over social media against PTI for appointing an Ahmedi and i hope extreme maulvis stay calm.
    Poori zindai dar k guzarni hai ? Is sai to acha mout he nai?

    And Jibran tweeted it because he criticized PTI in past for this when Imran backed out..

    In is own words:
    Karo toh masla na Karo toh masla. If I criticized a party on a policy publicly then I must appluad them publicly as well for correcting their mistake.

    This is called politics of principles.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arham_PakFan View Post
    Excellent move but will receive backlash.
    backlash? why backlash ?

    qasam sai yar kia ham log itnay darpok ho gaye hain k in mazhabi janooniun ki waja sai kuch karain he nai.

    Excellent step by pti and should be highlighted.. give them a message k ham to aisi appointments karain gai aur isay highlight b, jo ukharna hai ukhar lo.. #PakistanForAll


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    Jibran is an idiot for this. It wasn't his story to tell, had Atif wanted this to come out, he'd have said if. Or in his own time. This will now put Atif under the microscope as opposed to the others on the council.

    Why's this attention seeker trying to ensure he's the central character in this narrative? He's got a serious hero complex.

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    Attention seeker Jibran needs a slap on his face for this stunt... stupid insaan. Now Atif Mian will become controversial for no reason.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Attention seeker Jibran needs a slap on his face for this stunt... stupid insaan. Now Atif Mian will become controversial for no reason.



    200-250 vote lehnay waloon ko jub zayda izzat dehdo tou aisa hota hai
    Jibran Nisar : "hmm how can I make this situation about myself and get loads of RT's and ensure my position as woke king on twitter, whilst not caring in the least about the wants of my alleged friend Atif.. oh I know..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    backlash? why backlash ?

    qasam sai yar kia ham log itnay darpok ho gaye hain k in mazhabi janooniun ki waja sai kuch karain he nai.

    Excellent step by pti and should be highlighted.. give them a message k ham to aisi appointments karain gai aur isay highlight b, jo ukharna hai ukhar lo.. #PakistanForAll
    Backlash from those Mullah's. I agree that we should not bow to fundamentalists, but the govt will get a lot of criticism, that's for certain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asim_khan View Post
    Jibran is an idiot for this. It wasn't his story to tell, had Atif wanted this to come out, he'd have said if. Or in his own time. This will now put Atif under the microscope as opposed to the others on the council.

    Why's this attention seeker trying to ensure he's the central character in this narrative? He's got a serious hero complex.
    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Attention seeker Jibran needs a slap on his face for this stunt... stupid insaan. Now Atif Mian will become controversial for no reason.



    200-250 vote lehnay waloon ko jub zayda izzat dehdo tou aisa hota hai
    Agreed with this. I'm sure most people did not know about Atif Mian's background.Now he will be under a lot of unnecessary pressure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arham_PakFan View Post
    Backlash from those extremists. I agree that we should not bow to fundamentalists, but the govt will get a lot of criticism, that's for certain
    Fixed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arham_PakFan View Post
    Backlash from those Mullah's. I agree that we should not bow to fundamentalists, but the govt will get a lot of criticism, that's for certain
    It was just a tweet. But the way Pakistanis have reacted as if he has done some kind of sin.

    Indeed they have bowed down to extremist Mullahs. Always have. One of the reason why we are in dumps.

    #PakistaForAll


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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    It was just a tweet. But the way Pakistanis have reacted as if he has done some kind of sin.

    Indeed they have bowed down to extremist Mullahs. Always have. One of the reason why we are in dumps.

    #PakistaForAll
    Pakistan for all doesn’t happen overnight with a hashtag #PakistanForAll. It comes with education, prosperity and rule of law. His tweet is beyond ridiculous! Like I said earlier why couldn’t he stop at best economist in th country. Why mention other irrelevant things about high had now drawn unwanted attention towards him. You can ignore what kind of society we are living in, unfortunate but true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick84 View Post
    Pakistan for all doesn’t happen overnight with a hashtag #PakistanForAll. It comes with education, prosperity and rule of law. His tweet is beyond ridiculous! Like I said earlier why couldn’t he stop at best economist in th country. Why mention other irrelevant things about high had now drawn unwanted attention towards him. You can ignore what kind of society we are living in, unfortunate but true.
    Society batain bananay sai change nai ho gi.. Jibran has Masha Allah done the ground work for years whether it be confronting Laal Masjid Mullahs or against our incompetent CM Sindh and many other occasions (I can provide videos if you want) .. Aur tum log usay attention seeker kh detay ho.. Like i mentioned above why he tweeted it is because he criticized pti for backing out from Atif Mians name in past. Phlai poori baat parh lia karo.. Also uski aik simple si tweet thi issue tum logun nay banaya hai. Bas keeray he nikaltay rhna.


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    Noora supporters are doing media campaign against it.What fazul people we are living with @Syed1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    Society batain bananay sai change nai ho gi.. Jibran has Masha Allah done the ground work for years whether it be confronting Laal Masjid Mullahs or against our incompetent CM Sindh and many other occasions (I can provide videos if you want) .. Aur tum log usay attention seeker kh detay ho.. Like i mentioned above why he tweeted it is because he criticized pti for backing out from Atif Mians name in past. Phlai poori baat parh lia karo.. Also uski aik simple si tweet thi issue tum logun nay banaya hai. Bas keeray he nikaltay rhna.
    Again all you’re doing is whining instead of understanding the intensity of the situation. Confronting is no ground work. This could be done only with improvement to a common man’s life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick84 View Post
    Again all you’re doing is whining instead of understanding the intensity of the situation. Confronting is no ground work. This could be done only with improvement to a common man’s life.
    Bro I have lived long enough and was threatened myself multiple times because i have raised my voice for minorities not as much as Jibran but on a small level. Dont tell me situation in Pakistan, i know it first hand.. Plus Mulla Abdul aziz k against FIR Jibran ki waja sai he kati thii.. Confronting Laal Masjid Mullas in that sense. During that heat wave Jinna ward mai equipments ko serious Sindh govt nay Jibran k Qaim Ali Shah confrontation k baad he lia tha.. Once again first gain knowledge then we can talk.

    Last edited by SarfiBabarHaris; 2nd September 2018 at 23:09.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    Bro I have lived long enough and was threatened myself multiple times because i have raised my voice for minorities not as much as Jibran but on a small level. Dont tell me situation in Pakistan, i know it first hand.. Plus Mulla Abdul aziz k against FIR Jibran ki waja sai he kati thii.. Confronting Laal Masjid Mullas in that sense. During that heat wave Jinna ward mai equipments ko serious Sindh govt nay Jibran k Qaim Ali Shah confrontation k baad he lia tha.. Once again first gain knowledge then we can talk.

    What you’re saying is totally irrelevant to the topic at hand.

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    For the last time:

    In is own words:
    Karo toh masla na Karo toh masla. If I criticized a party on a policy publicly then I must appluad them publicly as well for correcting their mistake.

    This is why he tweeted. Secondly in his tweets the word Ahmadi is not mentioned. Thirdly even if he had mention Atif is an Ahmadi than whats the fuss about it. Just because some Mullahs and extremists wont be happy? Isi tara zinda rhna hai dar dar kay? And dont tell me that i dont know te actual situation in Pakistan as i have answered it above. We need to step up wrna 40 saal baad bhi yehi condition ho gi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    For the last time:

    In is own words:
    Karo toh masla na Karo toh masla. If I criticized a party on a policy publicly then I must appluad them publicly as well for correcting their mistake.

    This is why he tweeted. Secondly in his tweets the word Ahmadi is not mentioned. Thirdly even if he had mention Atif is an Ahmadi than whats the fuss about it. Just because some Mullahs and extremists wont be happy? Isi tara zinda rhna hai dar dar kay? And dont tell me that i dont know te actual situation in Pakistan as i have answered it above. We need to step up wrna 40 saal baad bhi yehi condition ho gi.
    Again for last time, why couldn’t he stop at “great decision to include Atif. One of the best economists in Pakistan” lol@he didn’t mention him being an Ahmadi. Yea he was talking about his hairstyle which could have been kept confidential. a few mullahs? They are talking about in tv shows and social media is going crazy over it. Opposition’s joint candidate is Maulvi Fazal, that tells you how strong Mullahs are. Maybe you have been living under a rock but three Ahmadis were hanged last year on blasphemy case.
    You can continue to cheerlead but fact if the matter is Jibran sold Atif out and put his life in danger.

    I have nothing more to add. You can continue to cheerlead and call names.
    Last edited by Maverick84; 3rd September 2018 at 00:38.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raja danish View Post
    must watch this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick84 View Post
    Again for last time, why couldn’t he stop at “great decision to include Atif. One of the best economists in Pakistan” lol@he didn’t mention him being an Ahmadi. Yea he was talking about his hairstyle which could have been kept confidential. a few mullahs? They are talking about in tv shows and social media is going crazy over it. Opposition’s joint candidate is Maulvi Fazal, that tells you how strong Mullahs are. Maybe you have been living under a rock but three Ahmadis were hanged last year on blasphemy case.
    You can continue to cheerlead but fact if the matter is Jibran sold Atif out and put his life in danger.

    I have nothing more to add. You can continue to cheerlead and call names.
    Lol @ living under the rock. See my posts in other threads related to Ahmadis. I think i have the most posts in those recent treads. I know the kind of difficulties they face. But if we do genuinely care for them then yar ye sab khatam krna ho ga that is why i really appreciate PTI and see no harm in Jibran mentioning this. Plus Atif is his personal friend, koi msla hota Atif ko to foran tweet wapis lai leta.

    Ap k pass 2 options hain. 1 dar sai larr k jeena, 2. dar k sath jeena. If 1 tweet is making media and extremists go bonkers so be it. If there are 100 extremists on media and social media then we should be in 1000s but hamara msla ye hai k ham darr jatay hain.

    And please tell me where have i name called you?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raja Danish View Post
    PTI have corrected their mistake so we should appreciate them.

    And those saying Jibran Atif kay background ka na batata to media ko pata na chalta etc should watch this video of Imran Khan talking about Atif and his beliefs. Sooner or later media would have got this.


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    Criticise karo to attention seeker, taareef karo to attention seeker. Aik martaba Soch lo kay tum log chahtay kia ho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick84 View Post
    Again for last time, why couldn’t he stop at “great decision to include Atif. One of the best economists in Pakistan” lol@he didn’t mention him being an Ahmadi. Yea he was talking about his hairstyle which could have been kept confidential. a few mullahs? They are talking about in tv shows and social media is going crazy over it. Opposition’s joint candidate is Maulvi Fazal, that tells you how strong Mullahs are. Maybe you have been living under a rock but three Ahmadis were hanged last year on blasphemy case.
    You can continue to cheerlead but fact if the matter is Jibran sold Atif out and put his life in danger.

    I have nothing more to add. You can continue to cheerlead and call names.
    If stating the obvious can get someone’s life in danger then the problem is not in the tweet but in the society.

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    Shame on Shehla Raza and more power to Jibran. Only principled politician in Pak.

    Time for Bilawal to walk the talk. Laikin i doubt he will take a bold step. Bas batain krwa lo in sab sai. Darpok log.
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    PPP should stop calling themselves a liberal and leftist party. They have the same narrow minded thinking and those who dont are either phattu or too naive.


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    And now he's putting out a fire he started himself.

    A good old three card monte. Start a controversy through an innocent 😇 tweet, wait for a reaction from the female Abid Sher Ali of PPP, replying with a holier than thou attitude, and await applause from your fan girls.

    Sounds like he's aiming to place himself as the true heir to the left wing throne. Good luck to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrez Pakistani View Post
    If stating the obvious can get someone’s life in danger then the problem is not in the tweet but in the society.
    Couldn't have said it better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrez Pakistani View Post
    two clowns

    but atleast one has been part of parliaments


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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    PPP should stop calling themselves a liberal and leftist party. They have the same narrow minded thinking and those who dont are either phattu or too naive.
    PPP is worst of both worlds. In the garb of liberalism, some of its members do all sorts of immoral things such as corruption, drinking while pretending to be ill and what not. And we all know that deep down, some of them are the bigots of the worst kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrez Pakistani View Post
    PPP is worst of both worlds. In the garb of liberalism, some of its members do all sorts of immoral things such as corruption, drinking while pretending to be ill and what not. And we all know that deep down, some of them are the bigots of the worst kind.
    I even have reservations over Z.A.Bhutto and dont believe he was some kind of liberal leader as portrayed. he was the one who bowed down to extremist Mullahs and the seeds of religious extremism were sown in his time. Zia continued what Bhutto started.


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    When will this non sense end. Atif Mian's religion has nothing to do with his advisory role in a committee, consisting of 18 members.


    " Don't wait. The time will never be just right "

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    I even have reservations over Z.A.Bhutto and dont believe he was some kind of liberal leader as portrayed. he was the one who bowed down to extremist Mullahs and the seeds of religious extremism were sown in his time. Zia continued what Bhutto started.
    Agree. He set the precedent. Zia amplified it.

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    The drama queen couldn't help himself.

    Orchestrate a controversy to get himself attention.... twit of the highest order.

    Arif Mian should resign otherwise he will be more of a distraction now. Help out in an advisory role behind the scenes.

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    Those criticizing Jibran would wet their pants if they are confronted by a big mob of TLP on the streets on Karachi. It is easy to sit in Canada and elsewhere to bash Jibran. I dare them to come to Pakistan and do 1% of the things JN is doing.

    He is probably the only man of principles in the whole of Pakistan. He refuses to be a silent spectators and silenced by extremists. We need at least 50,000 more JNs to fix this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedhk View Post
    Those criticizing Jibran would wet their pants if they are confronted by a big mob of TLP on the streets on Karachi. It is easy to sit in Canada and elsewhere to bash Jibran. I dare them to come to Pakistan and do 1% of the things JN is doing.

    He is probably the only man of principles in the whole of Pakistan. He refuses to be a silent spectators and silenced by extremists. We need at least 50,000 more JNs to fix this country.
    what exactly is Jibran Nasir doing asides from being a brat on Twitter and celebrating his 500 votes

    He failed in his law career and started this topi drama. He tries to sell this image of being brave for speaking out lol but what does he have to even lose? Will he alientate his base of 500 supporters by giving controversial statements?


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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedhk View Post
    Those criticizing Jibran would wet their pants if they are confronted by a big mob of TLP on the streets on Karachi. It is easy to sit in Canada and elsewhere to bash Jibran. I dare them to come to Pakistan and do 1% of the things JN is doing.

    He is probably the only man of principles in the whole of Pakistan. He refuses to be a silent spectators and silenced by extremists. We need at least 50,000 more JNs to fix this country.
    In 2014 after APS attack, Jibran led activists stood outside Lal Masjid for 3 days and demanded C Nisar to have an FIR against Mulla Abdul Aziz (who said he wont condemn the APS attack) after which Fir was registered and then later he got a life threatening call (which is recorded and sent to the authorities) from Ehsan Ullah Ehsan the Taliban spokesperson at that time. Jibrans mother had to leave her home for 1 year and went to her maikaa. But he did all this to seek attention and get votes

    I can list many more things but bhains k aagay been bajanay ka koi faida nai. I posted a video above too may be these brave non attention seeking people in this thread atleast can do that next time when a heat wave comes. I know i am doing nothing substantial for Pak but atleast wont criticize those who are doing something.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    In 2014 after APS attack, Jibran led activists stood outside Lal Masjid for 3 days and demanded C Nisar to have an FIR against Mulla Abdul Aziz (who said he wont condemn the APS attack) after which Fir was registered and then later he got a life threatening call (which is recorded and sent to the authorities) from Ehsan Ullah Ehsan the Taliban spokesperson at that time. Jibrans mother had to leave her home for 1 year and went to her maikaa. But he did all this to seek attention and get votes

    I can list many more things but bhains k aagay been bajanay ka koi faida nai. I posted a video above too may be these brave non attention seeking people in this thread atleast can do that next time when a heat wave comes. I know i am doing nothing substantial for Pak but atleast wont criticize those who are doing something.
    So true man. The irony of ‘the attention seeking’ comments are not lost me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrez Pakistani View Post
    So true man. The irony of ‘the attention seeking’ comments are not lost me.


    For non attention seekers this video is fake too

    Btw my college was just close to Laal Masjid. The Mulla Abdul Aziz saab was scary. Brainwashing young kids of madrasa.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post


    For non attention seekers this video is fake too

    Btw my college was just close to Laal Masjid. The Mulla Abdul Aziz saab was scary. Brainwashing young kids of madrasa.
    “Taliban kay hami
    Sab kay sab ******”
    Just brilliant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrez Pakistani View Post
    To be fair to Jibran, Atif's name was doing the rounds and this propaganda was already being spread that an Ahmadi has been selected. Some people probably don't know that Imran Khan had once praised Atif and there was severe backlash and propaganda was run by PMLN. Imran Khan even had to clarify his stance on khatm e nabuwat so Jibran is not responsible for anything here as this was known controversy.

    Pleasantly surprised that Imran Khan still opted to include him in list of economists in his panel despite the controversy, i really hope he sticks to his decision.

    As for PPP, let's not worry about it. Bilawal will wake up, deliver his monthly speech and keep his fans excited about a GREAT leader. He has done this for years, deliver a speech....disappear for month...issue a statement on random controversy...disappear for months and then get active in elections.

    Shehla has acted like an idiot for a long time, let's see if Karachi ki beti (aunty) gets shut up call from GREAT leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    what exactly is Jibran Nasir doing asides from being a brat on Twitter and celebrating his 500 votes

    He failed in his law career and started this topi drama. He tries to sell this image of being brave for speaking out lol but what does he have to even lose? Will he alientate his base of 500 supporters by giving controversial statements?
    Wow at your ignorance. Do some research or visit the other thread where I have outlined what this wonderful human being has done.

    Easy to be a critic on the Internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    In 2014 after APS attack, Jibran led activists stood outside Lal Masjid for 3 days and demanded C Nisar to have an FIR against Mulla Abdul Aziz (who said he wont condemn the APS attack) after which Fir was registered and then later he got a life threatening call (which is recorded and sent to the authorities) from Ehsan Ullah Ehsan the Taliban spokesperson at that time. Jibrans mother had to leave her home for 1 year and went to her maikaa. But he did all this to seek attention and get votes

    I can list many more things but bhains k aagay been bajanay ka koi faida nai. I posted a video above too may be these brave non attention seeking people in this thread atleast can do that next time when a heat wave comes. I know i am doing nothing substantial for Pak but atleast wont criticize those who are doing something.
    Not to mention that the assasination of his comrade, Khurram Zaki, in Karachi by the LeJ/TTP has further lifted Jibran’s spirits and emboldened him to confront extremism in its all forms.

    A wonderful human being. Those who are dissing him are probably even scared of coming to Pakistan while his guy goes around challenging rabid Mullahs right , left and center.

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    It's not as if nobody knew before Jibran mentioned it. People were pointing it out as soon as the pics went up on social media.

    The reaction from extremists was going to come and it has. Though for now they don't seem to be gaining any ground thankfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahdi View Post
    It's not as if nobody knew before Jibran mentioned it. People were pointing it out as soon as the pics went up on social media.

    The reaction from extremists was going to come and it has. Though for now they don't seem to be gaining any ground thankfully.
    I think ppl are getting hyper sensitive about his tweet because of the upcoming presidential elections. I can understand that after criticising liberals for such a long time, they don’t want to come across as liberals. Plus, it gives more political gains to Fazlu and his cronies to come across as the sole defenders of Islam in Pakistan, so there’s that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrez Pakistani View Post
    I think ppl are getting hyper sensitive about his tweet because of the upcoming presidential elections. I can understand that after criticising liberals for such a long time, they don’t want to come across as liberals. Plus, it gives more political gains to Fazlu and his cronies to come across as the sole defenders of Islam in Pakistan, so there’s that.
    Drill the following through your mind:



    Most people on this thread had no problem with Atif Mian's appointment and his religion had nothing to do with his meritorious selection. Most people have an issue with folks like Jibran Nasir who are highlighting his religion for their own personal gain when there was no need to.



    Actually the people who are confused are the twitter supporters of JN who cannot bring themselves to accept that their hero and saviour messed up a straight forward situation and tried to make it about himself for political mileage.




    Try and understand what I wrote, if you don't get it in the first try you should give it a couple more reads.

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    Great stuff by Imran. A very brave decision. But it needs to be understood that IMran will face backlash and lets see if he could stand against the tide or not.

    No need to bash Jibran. He was crediting Imran. ANd people knew about Atif Mian being Ahmadi because of the dharna as the Atif Mian point received alot of coverage for which imran had to do a separate interview with some molvi.

    Let me remind you guys, even back then when Imran mentioned his name, people found out that the guy was Ahmadi. It wasn't jibran telling people.

    Anyways, Imran didn't even had to mention about Atif being added in the council publicly, but he did, and that takes guts, thus great job by Imran for publicly accepting him in the council.


    Posters here are only bashing Jibran, because now the mullahs and the so called defenders of Islam are bashing Imran for this. And the PTI fans dont like criticism, thus they will bash Jibran.

    As i've mentioned above, it wasn't jibran telling people around Atif was ahmadi back when Imran had mentioned his name in the Dharna days, people themselves found out and spread it all over.

    Thing is, criticism was expected. And i hope PTI stands against it and doesn't give in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    Great stuff by Imran. A very brave decision. But it needs to be understood that IMran will face backlash and lets see if he could stand against the tide or not.

    No need to bash Jibran. He was crediting Imran. ANd people knew about Atif Mian being Ahmadi because of the dharna as the Atif Mian point received alot of coverage for which imran had to do a separate interview with some molvi.

    Let me remind you guys, even back then when Imran mentioned his name, people found out that the guy was Ahmadi. It wasn't jibran telling people.

    Anyways, Imran didn't even had to mention about Atif being added in the council publicly, but he did, and that takes guts, thus great job by Imran for publicly accepting him in the council.


    Posters here are only bashing Jibran, because now the mullahs and the so called defenders of Islam are bashing Imran for this. And the PTI fans dont like criticism, thus they will bash Jibran.

    As i've mentioned above, it wasn't jibran telling people around Atif was ahmadi back when Imran had mentioned his name in the Dharna days, people themselves found out and spread it all over.

    Thing is, criticism was expected. And i hope PTI stands against it and doesn't give in.
    I hope so too. It’s definitely a step in the right direction.

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    Jibran to be very honest comes across as an attention seeker, someone who likes to take credit for things

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    Decent post @Major except for the last bit, I think most PTI supporters love the fact fascist mullahs hate that Imran Khan has appointed Atif Mian. We'd take such criticism all day.

    Also, unless you're reading between the lines, we're more worried about the effect and added pressure this will put on Atif than Imran Khan being under attack.

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    Jibran Nasir is so desperate for some buzz nowadays he’ll literaly do anything for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Jibran to be very honest comes across as an attention seeker, someone who likes to take credit for things
    He is just desperate to come across as this obama like figure or an alternative. He has done nothing to suggest any political value. His whole campaign is about pleasing the lot that blames every thing from dollars going expensive to McDonald’s removing the dollar menu on “mullahs”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrez Pakistani View Post
    I think ppl are getting hyper sensitive about his tweet because of the upcoming presidential elections. I can understand that after criticising liberals for such a long time, they don’t want to come across as liberals. Plus, it gives more political gains to Fazlu and his cronies to come across as the sole defenders of Islam in Pakistan, so there’s that.
    We’re getting sensitive because jibran Nasir is a total fraud and attention seeker. Reham khan is one of his biggest supporters what else do you need to know

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    Excellent press conference by Fawad Chaudhry.

    No place for fear and extremism in Pakistan!


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    Atifs article on Dawn:

    Fixing Pakistan’s financial woes
    https://www.dawn.com/news/1427514/fi...financial-woes


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    Lets start hating this guy too, how can he support an attention seeker.



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    Here's a video I found of Atif giving his insight on Pak economy. Very good insights. Let's hope for Pakistan's sake, the government can reform atleast the economic policy.

    https://youtu.be/Xi7nM8xhr-Q

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    So, the EAC has been reduced to 15 members. We lost few good minds.

    One notable figure is Dr Asad Zaman.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    Lets start hating this guy too, how can he support an attention seeker.

    This was before he sold him out.

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    Dr Ashfaq Hassan Khan member of economic advisory council.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TalentSpotterPk View Post
    Dr Ashfaq Hassan Khan member of economic advisory council.


    Who passed a resolution against the Atif Mian? I wonder?

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    Imran Khan promised 2 Crore new Jobs and 5 million new homes in his Manifesto.


    Here is Dr Ashfaq Hassan Khan statement :


    “ Neither there will be new jobs, nor new homes, Qulaity of Life will also decline. GDP will shrink by 15 % : ” Dr Ashfaque Hassan

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalentSpotterPk View Post
    Imran Khan promised 2 Crore new Jobs and 5 million new homes in his Manifesto.


    Here is Dr Ashfaq Hassan Khan statement :


    “ Neither there will be new jobs, nor new homes, Qulaity of Life will also decline. GDP will shrink by 15 % : ” Dr Ashfaque Hassan
    And if that happens he will be voted out, but who hated Atif Mian so much that they passed a resolution against him. They gave you a carrot and you fell for it!!lol

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    4th member has resigned.

    Sakib Sherani is his name. While the reason he gave for his resignation were personal, but there are rumors that he couldn't work as army keeps rubbing its nose and there is a conflict between civil and army on economic policies.

    This council itself shows the problem of Pakistani politics


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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    4th member has resigned.

    Sakib Sherani is his name. While the reason he gave for his resignation were personal, but there are rumors that he couldn't work as army keeps rubbing its nose and there is a conflict between civil and army on economic policies.

    This council itself shows the problem of Pakistani politics
    So you got no idea but you made something up any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    And if that happens he will be voted out, but who hated Atif Mian so much that they passed a resolution against him. They gave you a carrot and you fell for it!!lol
    Maybe the Nooras were right on Atif Mian being anti PK. Can you elaborate why they hated him so much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Maybe the Nooras were right on Atif Mian being anti PK. Can you elaborate why they hated him so much
    i dont understand why you have to make each and everything PMLN vs PTI

    Whether it was PTI PPP or PMLN, it was the states failure to protect the basic right of Atif Mian. Both leaderships have been a joked when dealing with such issues. Even the PPP spokes person made some statements on twitter aswell agaisnt Atif Mian's faith.

    Stop making these a political thing. This has become a sociologial problem and its just sad that your faith is everyones business now adays


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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    i dont understand why you have to make each and everything PMLN vs PTI

    Whether it was PTI PPP or PMLN, it was the states failure to protect the basic right of Atif Mian. Both leaderships have been a joked when dealing with such issues. Even the PPP spokes person made some statements on twitter aswell agaisnt Atif Mian's faith.

    Stop making these a political thing. This has become a sociologial problem and its just sad that your faith is everyones business now adays
    Because that's what you and your friends do? The troll couldn't even bring himself to comment on the fact that the people that pay him, hated his community so much they passed a Resolution against them in Assembly. The fact that you never comment on any PPP or Noora theft tells me that you need and your friends need to be more honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    4th member has resigned.

    Sakib Sherani is his name. While the reason he gave for his resignation were personal, but there are rumors that he couldn't work as army keeps rubbing its nose and there is a conflict between civil and army on economic policies.

    This council itself shows the problem of Pakistani politics
    Rumors probably came from same people who told us:

    - Nawaz Shaarif is not corrupt and Panama scandal was Army's conspiracy against innocent angel.

    - Modi and Nawaz are serious about friendship with India but Army doesn't want it so they can keep getting their people killed in conflicts and make money out of it. Now same Army that apparently controls Imran Khan is going out of it's way to make peace with India despite India's refusal??

    Some people have resigned from EAC because it's voluntary work and at least 2 people have resigned so far because their own businesses or careers had suffered and they couldn't afford to sacrifice more. We lost Atif Mian and one other because some idiots can't get over the fact that an Ahmadi can serve his country just like any other Christian/Hindu etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    4th member has resigned.

    Sakib Sherani is his name. While the reason he gave for his resignation were personal, but there are rumors that he couldn't work as army keeps rubbing its nose and there is a conflict between civil and army on economic policies.

    This council itself shows the problem of Pakistani politics
    Haha yeah "rumours"



    The most verified news source ever rumours.com


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Haha yeah "rumours"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Waseem View Post
    Rumors probably came from same people who told us:

    - Nawaz Shaarif is not corrupt and Panama scandal was Army's conspiracy against innocent angel.

    - Modi and Nawaz are serious about friendship with India but Army doesn't want it so they can keep getting their people killed in conflicts and make money out of it. Now same Army that apparently controls Imran Khan is going out of it's way to make peace with India despite India's refusal??

    Some people have resigned from EAC because it's voluntary work and at least 2 people have resigned so far because their own businesses or careers had suffered and they couldn't afford to sacrifice more. We lost Atif Mian and one other because some idiots can't get over the fact that an Ahmadi can serve his country just like any other Christian/Hindu etc
    The irony that the Nooras hated Atif Mian so much that they passed a resolution against him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waseem View Post
    Rumors probably came from same people who told us:

    - Nawaz Shaarif is not corrupt and Panama scandal was Army's conspiracy against innocent angel.

    - Modi and Nawaz are serious about friendship with India but Army doesn't want it so they can keep getting their people killed in conflicts and make money out of it. Now same Army that apparently controls Imran Khan is going out of it's way to make peace with India despite India's refusal??

    Some people have resigned from EAC because it's voluntary work and at least 2 people have resigned so far because their own businesses or careers had suffered and they couldn't afford to sacrifice more. We lost Atif Mian and one other because some idiots can't get over the fact that an Ahmadi can serve his country just like any other Christian/Hindu etc


    Hey Waseem, donÂ’t get me started.


    1. If you had read Islamabad High CourtÂ’s damning Avenfield sentence suspension than you wouldnÂ’t have been repeating this over and over again. The court maintained that :


    “ We have formed a prima facie, tentative opinion that the convictions and sentences handed down to the Petitioners may not be ultimately sustainable. ”



    2. Nawaz Sharif was disqualified for not declaring his pay from his son. A pay he never received being a father. It was mockery of Justice. For this he was disqualified for life.


    Should I remind you about this case ? This was part and parcel of Flaghship reference. And he was later acquitted in Flagship reference.



    3. Nawaz Sharif was convicted in Azizia steel mill reference. There are many leading lawyers in Pakistan who have called it as a weak judgement which wonÂ’t stand either in the long course. The only so called evidence that Nawaz Sharif established Al Azizia steel mill is that his son sent him major chunk of the profits hence He is assumed to be the person who established this mill.



    All of these cases will be quashed within 2-4 years time. One Nasoor Cheap Justice has retired and soon others will go home aswell. Once these WhatsApp boot polshiye Justices it will be over.



    The worst part for cult followers & boot peddlers is that they tried so so hard but could not find a single evidence of money laundering, tax evasion, unexplained bank accounts, kick backs or any money earned through corrupt means whether in power or other wise.




    What you should pray is that Nawaz Sharif dies in next 2-4 years so that the conspirators & their biggest tool isn’t exposed of the lies he has peddled just to get in power by hook or crook.




    The fun part would be if Nawaz lives on 2-4 years, you live on and I live on and than we walk the talk these avenfield, flagship, azizia frivolous references.



    Meanwhile, enjoy your time in power corridors.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TalentSpotterPk View Post
    Hey Waseem, donÂ’t get me started.


    1. If you had read Islamabad High CourtÂ’s damning Avenfield sentence suspension than you wouldnÂ’t have been repeating this B******* over and over again. The court maintained that :


    “ We have formed a prima facie, tentative opinion that the convictions and sentences handed down to the Petitioners may not be ultimately sustainable. ”



    2. Nawaz Sharif was disqualified for not declaring his pay from his son. A pay he never received being a father. It was mockery of Justice. For this he was disqualified for life.


    Should I remind you about this case ? This was part and parcel of Flaghship reference. And he was later acquitted in Flagship reference.



    3. Nawaz Sharif was convicted in Azizia steel mill reference. There are many leading lawyers in Pakistan who have called it as a weak judgement which wonÂ’t stand either in the long course. The only so called evidence that Nawaz Sharif established Al Azizia steel mill is that his son sent him major chunk of the profits hence He is assumed to be the person who established this mill.



    All of these cases will be quashed within 2-4 years time. One Nasoor Cheap Justice has retired and soon others will go home aswell. Once these WhatsApp boot polshiye Justices it will be over.



    The worst part for cult followers & boot peddlers is that they tried so so hard but could not find a single evidence of money laundering, tax evasion, unexplained bank accounts, kick backs or any money earned through corrupt means whether in power or other wise.




    What you should pray is that Nawaz Sharif dies in next 2-4 years so that the conspirators & their biggest tool isn’t exposed of the lies he has peddled just to get in power by hook or crook.




    The fun part would be if Nawaz lives on 2-4 years, you live on and I live on and than we walk the talk these avenfield, flagship, azizia frivolous references.



    Meanwhile, enjoy your time in power corridors.



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    Aagay deeko hota ha kya. whatever they have done to the country I have zero support for pmln and ppp, whosoever doesbit I am not bought byvthat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalentSpotterPk View Post
    Hey Waseem, donÂ’t get me started.


    1. If you had read Islamabad High CourtÂ’s damning Avenfield sentence suspension than you wouldnÂ’t have been repeating this over and over again. The court maintained that :


    “ We have formed a prima facie, tentative opinion that the convictions and sentences handed down to the Petitioners may not be ultimately sustainable. ”



    2. Nawaz Sharif was disqualified for not declaring his pay from his son. A pay he never received being a father. It was mockery of Justice. For this he was disqualified for life.


    Should I remind you about this case ? This was part and parcel of Flaghship reference. And he was later acquitted in Flagship reference.



    3. Nawaz Sharif was convicted in Azizia steel mill reference. There are many leading lawyers in Pakistan who have called it as a weak judgement which wonÂ’t stand either in the long course. The only so called evidence that Nawaz Sharif established Al Azizia steel mill is that his son sent him major chunk of the profits hence He is assumed to be the person who established this mill.



    All of these cases will be quashed within 2-4 years time. One Nasoor Cheap Justice has retired and soon others will go home aswell. Once these WhatsApp boot polshiye Justices it will be over.



    The worst part for cult followers & boot peddlers is that they tried so so hard but could not find a single evidence of money laundering, tax evasion, unexplained bank accounts, kick backs or any money earned through corrupt means whether in power or other wise.




    What you should pray is that Nawaz Sharif dies in next 2-4 years so that the conspirators & their biggest tool isn’t exposed of the lies he has peddled just to get in power by hook or crook.




    The fun part would be if Nawaz lives on 2-4 years, you live on and I live on and than we walk the talk these avenfield, flagship, azizia frivolous references.



    Meanwhile, enjoy your time in power corridors.



    کان اللہ معکم
    Oh please, don't give me these technicalities that you and your likes have used to defend these thugs.

    I have my own independent brain and know that 3 times Prime Minister LIED that flats where purchased in 2006 when whole family had admitted owning these back in early 90s and entire PMLN leadership was seen visiting those flats throughout 90s, anyone with tiny bit of wisdom would know Nawaz Sharif lied.

    Nawaz Sharif used Qatari letter and disowned that letter.

    Nawaz Sharif lied in parliament and on national TV because none of his claims turned out to be true and "huzoor ye hain woh zaraaye" was a fictional story.

    Fake deeds, wrong fonts, conflicting statements by whole family whether they owned, rented or settled the flats were more than enough for anyone with tiny bit of wisdom or integrity.

    Ishaq Dar's on oath admission about money laundering and fake account story linked to Qazi family (even BBC documentary has been made on this) is good enough proof for anyone whose head isn't buried in sand.

    A lot of what i mentioned is more than enough proof of their corruption, sadly these crooks hide behind loopholes in law and technicalities. Court doesn't even consider his blatant lies in parliament as he has protection against those lies.

    Even Zardari is innocent if you go by these technicalities, remember what he said when some hidden accounts were found with billions of Rs under name of poor shopkeepers? He said "Agar account mil bhi gaye hain tou mujhay pata hai kaisay deal karna hai, court main prove karna hoga k maine khud kisi k naam pe account khulwaaye.............this is their reality, they know every loophole in system and law and always get out and people like YOU are the reason they get away because you provide them support and power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waseem View Post
    Oh please, don't give me these technicalities that you and your likes have used to defend these thugs.

    I have my own independent brain and know that 3 times Prime Minister LIED that flats where purchased in 2006 when whole family had admitted owning these back in early 90s and entire PMLN leadership was seen visiting those flats throughout 90s, anyone with tiny bit of wisdom would know Nawaz Sharif lied.

    Nawaz Sharif used Qatari letter and disowned that letter.

    Nawaz Sharif lied in parliament and on national TV because none of his claims turned out to be true and "huzoor ye hain woh zaraaye" was a fictional story.

    Fake deeds, wrong fonts, conflicting statements by whole family whether they owned, rented or settled the flats were more than enough for anyone with tiny bit of wisdom or integrity.

    Ishaq Dar's on oath admission about money laundering and fake account story linked to Qazi family (even BBC documentary has been made on this) is good enough proof for anyone whose head isn't buried in sand.

    A lot of what i mentioned is more than enough proof of their corruption, sadly these crooks hide behind loopholes in law and technicalities. Court doesn't even consider his blatant lies in parliament as he has protection against those lies.

    Even Zardari is innocent if you go by these technicalities, remember what he said when some hidden accounts were found with billions of Rs under name of poor shopkeepers? He said "Agar account mil bhi gaye hain tou mujhay pata hai kaisay deal karna hai, court main prove karna hoga k maine khud kisi k naam pe account khulwaaye.............this is their reality, they know every loophole in system and law and always get out and people like YOU are the reason they get away because you provide them support and power.
    To be very honest Pakistan's legal and prosecution system is very weak, incompetent and backward. In the West, the lawyers and judges will never allow any legal loophole to be exploited. If anything the state of the Judiciary needs to be addressed urgently.


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