Instagram

SportsFever360

Sohail Speaks Yasir's Blog Fazeer's Focus

User Tag List

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 80 of 86
  1. #1
    Debut
    Jun 2006
    Runs
    14,074
    Mentioned
    167 Post(s)
    Tagged
    3 Thread(s)

    Mohammad Amir's poor bowling statistics since the 2017 Champions Trophy

    Mohammad Amir since his match-winning spell vs India in the Champions Trophy:

    Matches: 8
    Overs: 59
    Wickets: 3
    Average: 79.33
    Economy: 4.03

  2. #2
    Debut
    Nov 2011
    Runs
    18,832
    Mentioned
    183 Post(s)
    Tagged
    4 Thread(s)
    if he does well against india, then we can put it down to being lazy.

  3. #3
    Debut
    Jul 2018
    Runs
    1,074
    Mentioned
    20 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    It happens.

    I remember on India's tour to SL in 2017, Bhuvi played 3 matches without getting a single wicket. And then in the 4th game he got a 5fer.

    Sometimes its just a matter of luck or something.

  4. #4
    Debut
    Jan 2005
    Runs
    14,977
    Mentioned
    10 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Gotham Cronie View Post
    Mohammad Amir since his match-winning spell vs India in the Champions Trophy:

    Matches: 8
    Overs: 59
    Wickets: 3
    Average: 79.33
    Economy: 4.03
    How many (opening) bowlers have an eco rate of 4? That is world class.

    Yes he can and should strike more but he gives great control up front.

  5. #5
    Debut
    Aug 2009
    Runs
    3,897
    Mentioned
    39 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by pakistani pride View Post
    How many (opening) bowlers have an eco rate of 4? That is world class.

    Yes he can and should strike more but he gives great control up front.
    3 of those matches were against Zim, 1 against HK
    Of the 4 matches against NZ, he gave up more than 6 RPO in 2 games

    So really, in perspective, the economy isn't that great either.

    Something's gotta give with Amir.
    Admittedly Amir has bowler well, but he can't just be carried if he's not producing. Especially when you have guys like Shaheen and Junaid sitting on the bench


    'I was shivering facing Akhtar' -Tendulkar

  6. #6
    Debut
    Dec 2015
    Runs
    369
    Mentioned
    38 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    He is done

  7. #7
    Debut
    Jan 2009
    Runs
    1,995
    Mentioned
    58 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    At some point, people are going to run out of excuses for Amir.

    You expect your best bowlers to perform every game - not just once in a blue moon. Did Wasim, Waqar, imran, Shoaib or even second tier bowlers do so poorly? And games against minnows are the best chance to improve your average and wicket column.

    Amir can't pick and choose games to perform - he has to deliver all the time. He is supposed to lead the attack.

  8. #8
    Debut
    Jun 2018
    Runs
    381
    Mentioned
    22 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    That's ok, 7-8 matches don't matter. Amir is a very good bowler, of course not extraordinary as his fan boys would like to believe. Having said that, he's one cricketer about whom, I as a cricket fan, can't care less where his career goes. He's a dirty cricketer and lucky to be playing international cricket. And no matter whatever happens in future, you will never find him in any major cricketers dream XI.
    Last edited by happydavy; 16th September 2018 at 16:23.

  9. #9
    Debut
    Dec 2015
    Runs
    7,090
    Mentioned
    265 Post(s)
    Tagged
    3 Thread(s)
    Extremely poor returns. When you play against minnow teams, you are expected to strike more than being economical.

  10. #10
    Debut
    Jan 2005
    Runs
    14,977
    Mentioned
    10 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by coy0607 View Post
    3 of those matches were against Zim, 1 against HK
    Of the 4 matches against NZ, he gave up more than 6 RPO in 2 games

    So really, in perspective, the economy isn't that great either.

    Something's gotta give with Amir.
    Admittedly Amir has bowler well, but he can't just be carried if he's not producing. Especially when you have guys like Shaheen and Junaid sitting on the bench
    Since his return he has had a good ECO rate overall. Even in T20s.

    I agree he needs to strike but he gives away few runs overall.

  11. #11
    Debut
    Jan 2017
    Runs
    1,409
    Mentioned
    20 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Amir is very overhyped. He can't be relied upon to win matches for Pakistan or even contribute on a consistent basis.

  12. #12
    Debut
    Jan 2006
    Runs
    14,969
    Mentioned
    106 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Big match bowler really.

    Likes to turn up when it actually matters. Can’t fault the guy, just doesn’t seem to want it as bad on the average day

  13. #13
    Debut
    Feb 2015
    Venue
    Canada
    Runs
    5,425
    Mentioned
    437 Post(s)
    Tagged
    3 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by pakistani pride View Post
    How many (opening) bowlers have an eco rate of 4? That is world class.

    Yes he can and should strike more but he gives great control up front.
    The standout statistic for a premier fast bowler should not be economy. We are settling for mediocrity.


    Does cricket survive off of it's money or does it survive for it's money?

  14. #14
    Debut
    Mar 2016
    Venue
    Sheffield
    Runs
    20,890
    Mentioned
    347 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Very poor numbers. He needs to improve.

  15. #15
    Debut
    Jun 2017
    Runs
    2,074
    Mentioned
    53 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The match against India is his "big stage". Question is what we should de with hin if he fails to impress this time around.

  16. #16
    Debut
    Oct 2010
    Runs
    38,845
    Mentioned
    293 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Mediocre to say the least.


    It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.

  17. #17
    Debut
    Jul 2018
    Runs
    1,074
    Mentioned
    20 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Big match bowler really.

    Likes to turn up when it actually matters. Can’t fault the guy, just doesn’t seem to want it as bad on the average day
    Really? You can't fault a guy who can't be bothered to give his best when he is representing his country?

  18. #18
    Debut
    Feb 2006
    Runs
    27,121
    Mentioned
    234 Post(s)
    Tagged
    5 Thread(s)
    Like i said, our fast bowling Zulfiqar Babar

  19. #19
    Debut
    Aug 2009
    Runs
    3,897
    Mentioned
    39 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    at this rate, Wahab would be a better wicket taker than Amir


    'I was shivering facing Akhtar' -Tendulkar

  20. #20
    Debut
    Oct 2007
    Venue
    Amsterdam / Faisalabad
    Runs
    9,394
    Mentioned
    53 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    It clearly ain't working with Azhar Mahmood.

    Rest/drop him so that he can contact others like Waqar who have helped him in the past.


    "You aren't a failure if you fail, you are a failure if you don't get up to try again" - Imran Khan.

  21. #21
    Debut
    Dec 2009
    Venue
    Dubai
    Runs
    14,449
    Mentioned
    338 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    I think he only gives it his all in important matches.

    In other matches, even if HE WANTS TO, his body just doesnt respond and his mind seems discoordinated with his body.

    The question ONLY really for us is :-

    If Amir helps us win the World Cup final.. do we carry him to the final or do we drop him and just play him in the World Cup final?


    And I get so high.. And I just can't feel it....

  22. #22
    Debut
    Jan 2005
    Runs
    14,977
    Mentioned
    10 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Bassim View Post
    I think he only gives it his all in important matches.

    In other matches, even if HE WANTS TO, his body just doesnt respond and his mind seems discoordinated with his body.

    The question ONLY really for us is :-

    If Amir helps us win the World Cup final.. do we carry him to the final or do we drop him and just play him in the World Cup final?
    We play him and win the cup.
    When ever he speaks about the WC he feels the passion.

  23. #23
    Debut
    Dec 2009
    Venue
    Dubai
    Runs
    14,449
    Mentioned
    338 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by pakistani pride View Post
    We play him and win the cup.
    When ever he speaks about the WC he feels the passion.
    But he will be useless till the final or at least semi final.

    So we carry him, in essence.

    I can live with that I guess as long as there is no one out there better than him.


    And I get so high.. And I just can't feel it....

  24. #24
    Debut
    Mar 2016
    Venue
    Attock
    Runs
    1,480
    Mentioned
    387 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    He is still our best bowler in death overs and is decent with the old ball. This problem can be solved if Hassan bowls with the new ball and Amir bowling most of his overs in middle and later part of the innings.

  25. #25
    Debut
    Jun 2013
    Venue
    England
    Runs
    15,918
    Mentioned
    727 Post(s)
    Tagged
    4 Thread(s)
    That's simply not good enough, the OP has laid bare his inconsistency or even inability to perform well regularly in ODIs and this is over a whole year. Think he should be dropped if he remains toothless throughout this Asia Cup.

    Looking at tests, he's played 19 matches since his return in 2016 and he's only taken one 5fer and has an average of 33 over this period. For Pakistan, a team that has relied on its bowling to win matches since its inception, for the main strike bowler to hardly make an impact in the match isn't acceptable and needs to be addressed. In an ideal world, he's had plenty of matches and needs to be dropped for alternatives who have earned their spot in tests. Amir needs to go back to the drawing board and work on the aspects of his bowling he's currently not excelling at.

  26. #26
    Debut
    Nov 2015
    Runs
    2,911
    Mentioned
    52 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Bassim View Post
    But he will be useless till the final or at least semi final.

    So we carry him, in essence.

    I can live with that I guess as long as there is no one out there better than him.
    And is it already guaranteed that we will get to the semi-final or final?

    Shaheen and Junaid look like excellent replacements for him.

    There is no logic in the arguments now being made for Amir.

  27. #27
    Debut
    Feb 2011
    Venue
    Pakistan
    Runs
    11,387
    Mentioned
    330 Post(s)
    Tagged
    3 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Prince of Pakistan View Post
    It clearly ain't working with Azhar Mahmood.

    Rest/drop him so that he can contact others like Waqar who have helped him in the past.
    Azhar hasn’t done bad with the other bowlers. Harsh to drop him because of one

  28. #28
    Debut
    Oct 2007
    Venue
    Amsterdam / Faisalabad
    Runs
    9,394
    Mentioned
    53 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ahson8 View Post
    Azhar hasn’t done bad with the other bowlers. Harsh to drop him because of one
    I meant rest/drop Amir so that he can take his time and contact other experts. Obviously you cannot drop a coach because of one player.


    "You aren't a failure if you fail, you are a failure if you don't get up to try again" - Imran Khan.

  29. #29
    Debut
    Apr 2011
    Venue
    Toronto (Dhaka)
    Runs
    21,134
    Mentioned
    1541 Post(s)
    Tagged
    8 Thread(s)
    Didn't know these stats - extremely poor return considering that half of those games must be against ZIM & HK. Economy is a good stats, but his SR is 120 as the bowling spearhead.

  30. #30
    Debut
    Feb 2011
    Venue
    Pakistan
    Runs
    11,387
    Mentioned
    330 Post(s)
    Tagged
    3 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Prince of Pakistan View Post
    I meant rest/drop Amir so that he can take his time and contact other experts. Obviously you cannot drop a coach because of one player.
    Oh. Fair enough

  31. #31
    Debut
    Sep 2018
    Runs
    1
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Abdul Moiz

    Quote Originally Posted by Gotham Cronie View Post
    Mohammad Amir since his match-winning spell vs India in the Champions Trophy:

    Matches: 8
    Overs: 59
    Wickets: 3
    Average: 79.33
    Economy: 4.03
    Let's wait till India match for any conclusion.
    Last edited by Abdullah719; 17th September 2018 at 09:46.

  32. #32
    Debut
    Apr 2009
    Venue
    Australia
    Runs
    6,329
    Mentioned
    1257 Post(s)
    Tagged
    6 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Abdul Moiz View Post
    Let's wait till India match for any conclusion.
    Considering Pakistan plays India probably once or twice a year. Is it worth carrying a bowler just for that? He played 3 games against Zimbabwe, whose main players missed the series due to some dispute. He has played one game against HK and still has this poor record. Yesterday would have been a great chance for him to pick 3-4 wickets but he got a figure of 7-1-20-0. Brilliant containing spell against a team who were 99/9.
    Last edited by Abdullah719; 17th September 2018 at 09:46.

  33. #33
    Debut
    Jun 2017
    Runs
    444
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I don't wield my power against fledglings, however, come the 19th...

  34. #34
    Debut
    Mar 2014
    Venue
    Not quite all there.
    Runs
    10,590
    Mentioned
    918 Post(s)
    Tagged
    5 Thread(s)
    I think this excuse of only performing in big matches is bogus and circumstantial. How does that even work lol. When you're a good bowler, you're a good bowler regardless of who you're playing, period.

    This guy needs to fix his act.

  35. #35
    Debut
    Aug 2011
    Venue
    I live in Canada; My heart lives in Pakistan
    Runs
    34,148
    Mentioned
    2560 Post(s)
    Tagged
    19 Thread(s)
    What are his numbers in ODIs since his return to international cricket? @Abdullah719


    Hai yeh Josh-e-Junoon, hai yeh apna yaqeen, ke jo tum mein hai dum, woh kisi mein nahin!

  36. #36
    Debut
    Jun 2017
    Runs
    444
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Suleiman View Post
    I think this excuse of only performing in big matches is bogus and circumstantial. How does that even work lol. When you're a good bowler, you're a good bowler regardless of who you're playing, period.

    This guy needs to fix his act.
    I'm a huge Amir fan, but even Amir fans can't deny this. As frustrating as those dropped catches were, you can only go so far with that argument. The way I see it is that the team composition will stay the same until the end of the WC, and if Amir is more-or-less still giving those same economical spells then I'm afraid his chances of being dropped will be right up there, making way for youngsters trying to take his place .

  37. #37
    Debut
    Sep 2013
    Runs
    10,707
    Mentioned
    173 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Gotham Cronie View Post
    Mohammad Amir since his match-winning spell vs India in the Champions Trophy:

    Matches: 8
    Overs: 59
    Wickets: 3
    Average: 79.33
    Economy: 4.03
    But but but.... he's economical!

  38. #38
    Debut
    Jun 2017
    Runs
    3,949
    Mentioned
    72 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    If he can knock out the Indians on Wednesday, all will be forgiven.

  39. #39
    Debut
    Sep 2018
    Runs
    85
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    He has been pretty mediocre for a while now but he hardly goes for runs in t20is or Odis, definitely not a strike bowler. He is playing as a 5th bowler it seems. I guess it's time to drop him and give shaheen a go.

  40. #40
    Debut
    Jul 2013
    Runs
    13,577
    Mentioned
    630 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    It's okay.

    Such stats don't matter much. He'll deliver when it's time.

  41. #41
    Debut
    Mar 2018
    Runs
    322
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    He converts his potential only against India.

  42. #42
    Debut
    Apr 2009
    Venue
    Australia
    Runs
    6,329
    Mentioned
    1257 Post(s)
    Tagged
    6 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by ManFan View Post
    If he can knock out the Indians on Wednesday, all will be forgiven.
    He won't, I don't think he can knock out any team at the moment. He will be economical but will not pick up many wickets. If Pakistan and India (A big if for India) reach the finals and Pakistan get a big first innings score, then Amir will get few wickets. On the 19th it will be the other bowlers.

  43. #43
    Debut
    Jan 2012
    Venue
    Sydney, Australia
    Runs
    3,299
    Mentioned
    198 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Needs a sports psychologist, seems to have a mental block with regards to his motivation in matches that aren't big games. Either that or he needs to be dropped to see if he comes back more motivated

  44. #44
    Debut
    Jul 2015
    Venue
    Karachi
    Runs
    428
    Mentioned
    114 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    In a recent interview. He actually talked about it and said something like. "I give my best and sometimes the ball just passes 1 or half inch of the stump or bat. It is luck." In contrast to this Hasan Ali is really lucky. Now I somewhat agree that M Amir is a bit unlucky ever since he made his come back. He had to deal with drop catches and bowling beautiful deliveries but nor getting wickets. But if it's a matter of luck then why he got wickets and won the match for us in CT17 final? If he's truly unlucky is it worth it carrying around in each game?

    P.S: I personally think he is unlucky, but also haven't showed much passion and aggression against smaller sides.

  45. #45
    Debut
    Feb 2010
    Runs
    6,516
    Mentioned
    27 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Will be interesting to see how he goes against us on 19th. There will be limited swing and seam on offer but based on what he did in CT final, he will have very fond memories and be full of confidence.

    I may be wrong but I don't think he bowls full enough regularly. In CT final, he did that and destroyed our top order, ditto in the last Asia Cup at Dhaka, bowled full, got us down to 8 runs for 3 wickets before a Kohli special helped us win.

  46. #46
    Debut
    Sep 2012
    Runs
    74,504
    Mentioned
    4707 Post(s)
    Tagged
    36 Thread(s)
    He is helping the other bowlers take wickets by creating pressure.

  47. #47
    Debut
    Jul 2018
    Runs
    1,074
    Mentioned
    20 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by cricketindiafan View Post
    Will be interesting to see how he goes against us on 19th. There will be limited swing and seam on offer but based on what he did in CT final, he will have very fond memories and be full of confidence.

    I may be wrong but I don't think he bowls full enough regularly. In CT final, he did that and destroyed our top order, ditto in the last Asia Cup at Dhaka, bowled full, got us down to 8 runs for 3 wickets before a Kohli special helped us win.
    Asia Cup match was a seaming track, if I remember.

    I highly doubt Dubai will have a pitch anything like that.

  48. #48
    Debut
    Apr 2013
    Venue
    Karachi
    Runs
    24,622
    Mentioned
    1147 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    What are his numbers in ODIs since his return to international cricket? @Abdullah719
    29 matches
    33 wickets
    3/16 best figs
    34.72 avg
    43.3 s/r
    4.8 eco


    Follow PakPassion on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram!

  49. #49
    Debut
    Sep 2016
    Runs
    261
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    He is not a wicket taker in UAE, bowl doesn’t swing and Amir is a pure swing bowler bit like Anderson. He can still bowl economically as he has good control. It will be foolish to drop him for the WC which is in England and where he had his best performances. I would keep him fresh for the WC and play him only every other match. This way it won’t be a big loss as he is not a big match winner in UAE conditions.

  50. #50
    Debut
    Mar 2004
    Venue
    Manchester, UK
    Runs
    102,857
    Mentioned
    645 Post(s)
    Tagged
    3 Thread(s)
    Should be persisted with in starting 11 till end of Asia cup if he doesnt perform the the bench strength in bowling means he should then remain in sqaud and not the starting 11.

  51. #51
    Debut
    Nov 2015
    Venue
    Karachi
    Runs
    10,773
    Mentioned
    133 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    If he doesn't perform in the rest of the tournament, he should be dropped for Shaheen.

  52. #52
    Debut
    Jan 2005
    Runs
    14,977
    Mentioned
    10 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    He is helping the other bowlers take wickets by creating pressure.
    This

    I really like the whole theory around Amir.
    The thing is the lad has given us some bragging rights

    No one remembers JAMODIS vs NZ, or a Asia cup but people will forever remember that great over to Dilshan in 2009 and of course well you know...

  53. #53
    Debut
    Sep 2012
    Runs
    74,504
    Mentioned
    4707 Post(s)
    Tagged
    36 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by pakistani pride View Post
    This

    I really like the whole theory around Amir.
    The thing is the lad has given us some bragging rights

    No one remembers JAMODIS vs NZ, or a Asia cup but people will forever remember that great over to Dilshan in 2009 and of course well you know...
    His best performance was in the Semifinal of the Champions Trophy, where he applied pressure against the tournament favorites England from the pavilion, along the inferior bowlers on the field to restrict England to a lowly total without him.

  54. #54
    Debut
    Aug 2009
    Runs
    3,897
    Mentioned
    39 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    29 matches
    33 wickets
    3/16 best figs
    34.72 avg
    43.3 s/r
    4.8 eco
    very mediocre record, and that''s without even considering a lot of those matches have been against significantly inferior oppositions


    'I was shivering facing Akhtar' -Tendulkar

  55. #55
    Debut
    Jan 2005
    Runs
    14,977
    Mentioned
    10 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    His best performance was in the Semifinal of the Champions Trophy, where he applied pressure against the tournament favorites England from the pavilion, along the inferior bowlers on the field to restrict England to a lowly total without him.
    This.

    Man you unlocked the code. See the impact Amir has even without playing. The next match he took it to another level and decimated your batting line up to pieces.

  56. #56
    Debut
    May 2013
    Venue
    USA
    Runs
    90
    Mentioned
    15 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I believe that we've got a strong enough bowling attack that we don't need to make a big deal about Amir's not so spectacular form. He's still a decent bowler who can hold his place in the side.

    The talk of dropping him is premature as we don't have a special talent waiting in the wings. So, personally, I'm not too fussed about it. The trio of Amir-Hassan-Junaid/Shinwari, along with the spinners, is more than capable of getting the job done.

  57. #57
    Debut
    Jan 2006
    Venue
    Yorkshire
    Runs
    37,252
    Mentioned
    236 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Wasim’s crown is quite safe I think.

  58. #58
    Debut
    Dec 2014
    Venue
    UK
    Runs
    5,137
    Mentioned
    67 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Even if he doesn't do it against India , it doesn't mean much as batters and spinners are more likely to fare better here.
    I'm still expecting a turn up though.
    Is defo in our starting eleven.
    You need guys in the line up who the opposition respect and fear.
    Amir is one of a few we have


    If you always do what you have always done, you will always get what you always got #improve

  59. #59
    Debut
    Nov 2016
    Runs
    66
    Mentioned
    17 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Amir is not the second coming of Wasim. But he is one bowler who doesn't get hit for runs. And he definitely chooses when to perform. His pace was low in NZ ODIs but was quick in the T20s. If it were not him Ross Taylor would have won the match for NZ in the third T20. His economy is impressive.

  60. #60
    Debut
    Jun 2001
    Venue
    UK
    Runs
    69,020
    Mentioned
    1436 Post(s)
    Tagged
    22 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    29 matches
    33 wickets
    3/16 best figs
    34.72 avg
    43.3 s/r
    4.8 eco
    Not bad stats to be fair to him.

    Could have been better and the heat is on him really to perform at the Asia Cup.



  61. #61
    Debut
    Jun 2017
    Runs
    444
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    My prediction for Amir's performance regardless of result: 10-3-40-5

  62. #62
    Debut
    Dec 2016
    Runs
    64
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Suleiman View Post
    I think this excuse of only performing in big matches is bogus and circumstantial. How does that even work lol. When you're a good bowler, you're a good bowler regardless of who you're playing, period.

    This guy needs to fix his act.
    Totally agree. I was one of his supporters that believed he needed time returning after 5 years. However in my opionion he has now had ample opportunities but does not strike or even look that threatening. For me if you are playing for your country then all matches are important. We should bring in Shaheen Afridi or Junaid and make him earn his place in the team now and not take it for granted.
    Maybe try Afridi, Shinwari, Junaid and Hasan ahead of him.
    Last edited by Iddy; 17th September 2018 at 21:19.

  63. #63
    Debut
    Apr 2013
    Venue
    Karachi
    Runs
    24,622
    Mentioned
    1147 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Would be epic if he was dropped for Shaheen for the India game, might wake him up. Don't see it happening though.


    Follow PakPassion on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram!

  64. #64
    Debut
    Jul 2018
    Runs
    1,074
    Mentioned
    20 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by TeamPak95 View Post
    My prediction for Amir's performance regardless of result: 10-3-40-5
    Not happening, bro.

  65. #65
    Debut
    Jun 2017
    Runs
    444
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by the_outsider View Post
    Not happening, bro.
    After Rana correctly predicted that Fakhar would score a double, I kinda got inspired albeit against Zimbabwe, but still. Anyhow, if I do predict this correctly, or at least predict the 5fer part correctly, then you'll know where to find my comment .

  66. #66
    Debut
    Aug 2012
    Runs
    4,010
    Mentioned
    34 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Amir is supposed to be the leader of the bowling attack.

    However he is the worst performing bowler out of all of them.

    He is economical which is great for t20s. But in ODIs you have to take wickets with the new ball.

    Amir has been below average in both ODIs and tests.

  67. #67
    Debut
    Jan 2017
    Runs
    536
    Mentioned
    55 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    It's time to drop him. One performance per year isn't enough. Selectors are playing favoritism. This Asia cup should be his last chance.

  68. #68
    Debut
    Jul 2018
    Venue
    London, UK
    Runs
    487
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Has an excellent record in ICC tournaments and is simply a big match player. Amir is needed for Pakistan to go far in England next year. The likes of Shinwari + Raees will choke in my opinion.

    In an ICC knockout game Amir would be the first bowler in my XI without any hesitation. No doubt that not performing against lowly minnows like Hong Kong is concerning but at the same time it is frustrating to see fans don't appreciate his value to the side in clutch games. His records in ICC LOI tournaments peak for itself as shown in the T20I WCs like in 09 and CT 09 and the one last year. His performances in the 09 and last year's final were just phenomenal .

    Amir needs to be backed by captain and management to harness his aggression which is what has been missing in these lower key matches.
    Last edited by topspin; 18th September 2018 at 03:17.

  69. #69
    Debut
    Jun 2015
    Venue
    Srinagar
    Runs
    3,792
    Mentioned
    37 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Needs something big against India or else Shaheen should come in for the rest of the tournament

  70. #70
    Debut
    Nov 2017
    Runs
    66
    Mentioned
    12 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Can Mohammad Amir pick up more wickets if he bowls around the wicket?

    What do I guys think, would mohammad Amir have a better average if he went around the wicket more often? Would it make him a greater potent threat to righties?

  71. #71
    Debut
    Jun 2001
    Venue
    UK
    Runs
    69,020
    Mentioned
    1436 Post(s)
    Tagged
    22 Thread(s)
    4 overs 0 wickets for 19 so far.



  72. #72
    Debut
    Aug 2011
    Runs
    19,124
    Mentioned
    299 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    4 overs 0 wickets for 19 so far.
    Very good economy rate. Kept things tight as usual.


    "If this happens I will swim across the Charles River! In winter!" -- OZGOD on NZ batting 6 sessions

  73. #73
    Debut
    Jun 2001
    Venue
    UK
    Runs
    69,020
    Mentioned
    1436 Post(s)
    Tagged
    22 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Buffet View Post
    Very good economy rate. Kept things tight as usual.
    Yes exactly what's needed from a strike bowler



  74. #74
    Debut
    Dec 2009
    Venue
    Dubai
    Runs
    14,449
    Mentioned
    338 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Yes exactly what's needed from a strike bowler
    He creates pressure for other bowlers.


    And I get so high.. And I just can't feel it....

  75. #75
    Debut
    Jan 2005
    Runs
    14,977
    Mentioned
    10 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Cant blame him today. Indian openers are WC and today there was 0 pressure on them.

    Lets hope we bat better as the tourney goes on.

  76. #76
    Debut
    Jun 2001
    Venue
    UK
    Runs
    69,020
    Mentioned
    1436 Post(s)
    Tagged
    22 Thread(s)
    Update:

    Matches: 9
    Overs: 65
    Wickets: 3
    Average: 87
    Economy: 4.02



  77. #77
    Debut
    Jul 2006
    Runs
    17,919
    Mentioned
    198 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by topspin View Post
    Has an excellent record in ICC tournaments and is simply a big match player. Amir is needed for Pakistan to go far in England next year. The likes of Shinwari + Raees will choke in my opinion.

    In an ICC knockout game Amir would be the first bowler in my XI without any hesitation. No doubt that not performing against lowly minnows like Hong Kong is concerning but at the same time it is frustrating to see fans don't appreciate his value to the side in clutch games. His records in ICC LOI tournaments peak for itself as shown in the T20I WCs like in 09 and CT 09 and the one last year. His performances in the 09 and last year's final were just phenomenal .

    Amir needs to be backed by captain and management to harness his aggression which is what has been missing in these lower key matches.
    I see posts like these and laugh out loud. I only see pak fans make these excuses for some reasons. Ishant sharma is a CT winner with amazing bowling in the final. Irfan Pathan is a world cup winner with amazing final bowling. But i have never heard indian fans call them big game players

    And the most hillarious part is that most of this Amir big game hype is based on one single CT final where his team scored 340 plus. This score jad never been chased in big games and even zim or hong Kong bowlers can defend that score in a big game final. To credit amir with that match is some of the most desperate stuff by his fan boys

  78. #78
    Debut
    Jul 2006
    Runs
    5,230
    Mentioned
    14 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    It's not that we don't have any replacements, the one who is warming the bench is as quick plus 7 inches taller than him. I think it's better for him to get dropped and play a full domestic season in order to regain his lost in swing

  79. #79
    Debut
    Jun 2017
    Runs
    271
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Why is he getting a free ride? He could always say my schedule was tight. But when it comes to premier leagues, they wouldn't hesitate to play no matter how much their work load, as the money is good. Clearly, they have gotten their priorties straight. Also, the technique of amir has been really poor of bowling away from stumps, as he intentionally bowls there to not get any swing i think.

  80. #80
    Debut
    May 2013
    Venue
    USA
    Runs
    90
    Mentioned
    15 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    He needs to dropped. His bowling is so lackluster that its not even funny. If he's not getting the swing, at least hit a good length on a consistent basis. I don't think we'll lose any sting from our bowling attack if hes replaced with Shaheen.


Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •