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    Pakistan and dropped catches : An enduring love story

    Pakistan has been hands down the worst top 8 team in terms of chances misses in past 2 decades almost:

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    Some other notables:

    Danish Kaneria had 93 missed chances in his career. A lot of them were howlers by Kamran Akmal

    Kamran Akmal missed 203 chances at a miss % of 20%










    Some fascinating work by noted journalist CHARLES DAVIS

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    We were better in 2003-2009 ,this report should be highlighted although tbf our ground fielding is much better now.

    Is this LOI and tests combined?


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    Our aim for 2016 to 2020 should be around 25%.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JaDed View Post
    We were better in 2003-2009 ,this report should be highlighted although tbf our ground fielding is much better now.

    Is this LOI and tests combined?
    just tests

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    Quote Originally Posted by speed View Post
    Our aim for 2016 to 2020 should be around 25%.
    no chance

    we put down a ton of chances over the summer

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    damn you! Kamran ,you yell at players for not throwing properly or running fast.

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    on average Pak has had to take about 14 wickets per innings

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    Lol then people say it doesn't affect the overall record of our bowlers. It would've been closer to 35% in Wasim and Waqar's time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    Lol then people say it doesn't affect the overall record of our bowlers. It would've been closer to 35% in Wasim and Waqar's time.
    We were better fielding side in 90s than 2000s hands down

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    We were better fielding side in 90s than 2000s hands down
    No, we weren't. Where does that come from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    No, we weren't. Where does that come from?
    For one we had either a world class keeper (Rashid) or a very good keeper (Moin)

    Inzi was a good slip catcher

    Out fielding was fairly decent with Ijaz

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    Pakistan have lost series (multiple) due to dropped catches, atrocious fielding and bad umpiring. They do not factors in stats but are there.

    Just watch recently concluded Pak v Eng series and dropped chances off Amir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    For one we had either a world class keeper (Rashid) or a very good keeper (Moin)

    Inzi was a good slip catcher

    Out fielding was fairly decent with Ijaz
    Moin was a drop machine(@MMHS tell him about Moin). Rashid played only 37 tests.

    Inzi is extremely overrated. His drops are overlooked because he was the only bloody guy who could catch the damn thing.

    Ijaz was one. What about the rest?

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    Reminds me of a gem. For those not familiar, the characters are the Pakistani and Indian PMs, and the time is after the 2011 SF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    Pakistan has been hands down the worst top 8 team in terms of chances misses in past 2 decades almost:

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    Some other notables:

    Danish Kaneria had 93 missed chances in his career. A lot of them were howlers by Kamran Akmal

    Kamran Akmal missed 203 chances at a miss % of 20%










    Some fascinating work by noted journalist CHARLES DAVIS
    I was about to mention Kamran Akmal, and then I saw the number of catches dropped and my jaw dropped with it... that's an astounding number !!
    Ofcourse Kami fans will call it conspiracy against him @MRSN

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed88 View Post
    I was about to mention Kamran Akmal, and then I saw the number of catches dropped and my jaw dropped with it... that's an astounding number !!
    Ofcourse Kami fans will call it conspiracy against him @MRSN
    And just tests lol

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    India's performance drop is significant.

    Post Dravid and pre Rahane effect probably.

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    Hmm, where's that poster who was saying that South Africa drop as many catches as Pakistan?


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    Simple solution - Cut down on biryanis on match days.

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    The only significant and eye opening finding from this article was that so far, Sarfaraz has a higher drop ratio than Kamran Akmal.

    And I thought there would never be a worse keeper than Kamran but lo and behold.

    Don't @ me, I like Sarfaraz and am thanking my lucky stars that the reign of terror that Kamran was is over but Sarfaraz as a keeper is also horrible. Needs to up his keeping game a lot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GoUgandaCranes View Post
    The only significant and eye opening finding from this article was that so far, Sarfaraz has a higher drop ratio than Kamran Akmal.

    And I thought there would never be a worse keeper than Kamran but lo and behold.

    Don't @ me, I like Sarfaraz and am thanking my lucky stars that the reign of terror that Kamran was is over but Sarfaraz as a keeper is also horrible. Needs to up his keeping game a lot.
    Kamran dropped more howlers

    'sarfaraz isnt the best keeper in the world but he is geenrally safe

    wont take screamers but atleast wont boil your blood

    also surprised at poor adnan akmal stats

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    Pakistan has been hands down the worst top 8 team in terms of chances misses in past 2 decades almost:

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    Some other notables:

    Danish Kaneria had 93 missed chances in his career. A lot of them were howlers by Kamran Akmal

    Kamran Akmal missed 203 chances at a miss % of 20%


    Some fascinating work by noted journalist CHARLES DAVIS
    Enlighten me if I am missing something, but 203 chances missed is way way too much especially if we are considering only test cricket. I have watched almost all his matches except the first 4, I know he was horrendous, but dont think i can recall even 50 if the total is 203. The number seems absurd. Dont think he would have been in the team if his avg was almost 4 missed chances per game, considering he was very good in his initial games, that would mean 5-6 chances per game over a sustained period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faisalsq092 View Post
    Enlighten me if I am missing something, but 203 chances missed is way way too much especially if we are considering only test cricket. I have watched almost all his matches except the first 4, I know he was horrendous, but dont think i can recall even 50 if the total is 203. The number seems absurd. Dont think he would have been in the team if his avg was almost 4 missed chances per game, considering he was very good in his initial games, that would mean 5-6 chances per game over a sustained period.
    includes missed stumpings too

    these include difficult chances too

    for eg i remember someone did an analysis in 2011 to see how manyclear cut chances did Kamran drop between 2006 and 2011. And the number was 62. So not hard to imagine that he had 203 missed chances b/w 2004 and 2015 once you include stumpings misses and tougher chances

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    Kamran dropped more howlers

    'sarfaraz isnt the best keeper in the world but he is geenrally safe

    wont take screamers but atleast wont boil your blood

    also surprised at poor adnan akmal stats
    The catches that Kamran dropped, even a non-keeper just filling in would take them easily.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GoUgandaCranes View Post
    The only significant and eye opening finding from this article was that so far, Sarfaraz has a higher drop ratio than Kamran Akmal.

    And I thought there would never be a worse keeper than Kamran but lo and behold.

    Don't @ me, I like Sarfaraz and am thanking my lucky stars that the reign of terror that Kamran was is over but Sarfaraz as a keeper is also horrible. Needs to up his keeping game a lot.
    How did you work this out?

    The tables is from 2010-2015.

    Sarfraz became Pakistan's regular test keeper in 2014.

    In the other 3 years he must have played around 5 tests.

    So for 3 years Zulqarnain Haider, Mohammed Salman and Adnan Akmal were keeping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finisher View Post
    How did you work this out?

    The tables is from 2010-2015.

    Sarfraz became Pakistan's regular test keeper in 2014.

    In the other 3 years he must have played around 5 tests.

    So for 3 years Zulqarnain Haider, Mohammed Salman and Adnan Akmal were keeping.
    I didn't 'work' it out. It's in the original article which is the source of this thread.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GoUgandaCranes View Post
    I didn't 'work' it out. It's in the original article which is the source of this thread.
    yes but the thing is those were a handful of Sarfaraz tests almost exclusively in tough away tours (Aus, SA)

    and even then he was on similar level with Adnan who is supposedly best pure keeper

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    in the table in OP you just have to see the gulf b/w #7 and us. Like its a different league

    6% is sth like 15 drops a year

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    Pakistan and fielding doesn't go together

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    in the table in OP you just have to see the gulf b/w #7 and us. Like its a different league

    6% is sth like 15 drops a year
    I am not sure about the purpose of the stats except so and so team drops so many catches. I would expect a factor against each drop. Like drops per match or runs per drop etc. Looking at the table, WI seem to have drastically improved in the second half, but that tells only half the story. It could be because they have been either fielding for only one innings or have been bundled away far to quickly.

    The stats are good, no doubt but fail to drive home the impact factor in my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by EliteCynical View Post
    I am not sure about the purpose of the stats except so and so team drops so many catches. I would expect a factor against each drop. Like drops per match or runs per drop etc. Looking at the table, WI seem to have drastically improved in the second half, but that tells only half the story. It could be because they have been either fielding for only one innings or have been bundled away far to quickly.

    The stats are good, no doubt but fail to drive home the impact factor in my opinion
    Wouldn't the percentage factor take that point out?

    If West Indies are dropping 1/5 chances in one innings as opposed to 2/10 over two innings that means the missed chances ratio remains same

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    Despite having such so many drops Kamran Akmal has one of the the best dismissal/innings ratio. So all our other keepers have been poor or we had one of the great bowling of all time that didn't get support from the keeper.
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    Well to be honest it was just one slip catch..

    Amir's catch was very difficult, and it was barely above the ground.. he was in his follow through, Williamson hit it very low and Amir only got fingers to it despite being full stretch

    So only 1 dropped catch, I wouldn't read too much into the what ifs here..

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    We lost a test match in New zealand (2 series ago) due to pathetic fielding and catching. we are seriously poor when it comes to supporting our bowlers in the field and have to feel sorry for bowlers like Ami in particular.

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    Only one drop so far? (Smirh - Azhar?)

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    so asides from dropping catches, we dont even claim them now?

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    how many did we drop this tour?

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    Kamran was wait for it
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    Legendady

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    Indian stat is disappointing. (

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    @Slog can you pull stats for ODIs as well bro? Would be interesting to see


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    The King of Drops "Kamran Akmal" is back get ready for some comedy #outfiedling


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    And again


    #MPGA

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    Quite a few times this WC


    #MPGA

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    Babar azam the culprit dropping Joe root at first slip, Mohammad Amir the victim, root went on to score a century. Sarfaraz ahmed the culprit stationing Asif Ali beside him, dropped Aaron finch, went on to score 82. Asif Ali the culprit dropping a sitter of Warner, wahab riaz the victim. More such excellent, comical fielding to come InshaAllah.

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    Someone post the graphic of dropped catches off Mohammad Amir's bowling since his comeback.

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    More dropped

    I think a commentator mentioned that we have 14 dropped catches in this tournament so far (might have increased to a few more)


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