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    Jos Buttler credits IPL stint for success in Test series against Pakistan

    Jos Buttler has credited his IPL stint with Rajasthan Royals for his success on his comeback to England's Test squad. He was handed a surprise call-up to the Test team and Buttler proved his worth with gritty performances in the series.

    Jos Buttler was given a second lease in Test cricket when he was handed a surprise call for the two-Test match series against Pakistan. There were doubts how Buttler would assimilate himself to Test cricket as he had been playing in IPL 2018 for past month and hadnít played Test cricket for England since December 2016. Though, the comeback man showed promise in the first go and starred for his team in both Tests. It was his innings of 80* off 101 which was probably his best innings as Englandís lead swelled to a margin from where they were not required to bat again.

    The 27-year-old batsman has credited IPL for his success in the recently concluded Test series as he said, "Those couple of weeks in the IPL gave me huge amounts of confidence, playing in front of those crowds, the pressure of being an overseas player. The tough thing with test cricket is that if you get out early, you've got a long time to think about it. In T20, you just move on."

    Buttler emerged out to be a star for Rajasthan Royals in the second half of the tournament as he smashed five consecutive half-centuries to mark a comeback for the Ajinkya Rahane-led team in the tournament. He had to miss the last league stage tie for his side after being called for national duty.

    The one-time champions were still able to qualify for the playoffs but suffered a defeat in a must-win Eliminator against Kolkata Knight Riders. Buttlerís absence was clearly seen there as none of the openers could carry the team till the end, as a result of which Rajasthan Royals fell short by a margin of 25 runs.

    For Buttler, a recall to the Test side, however, has helped him rejuvenate his first-class career. England did not hesitate in playing with two wicketkeeper-batsmen in the Test series against Pakistan. And if Buttler continues to perform in the five-day format, he could be a part of England's Ashes 2019 plan as well.

    Link: http://www.timesnownews.com/sports/c...akistan/236015


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    It was obvious, wasn't it? Even selectors decided on the basis of IPL performance.

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    It's kind of true. The test matches require great mental abilities. For an overseas player, IPL has lot of pressure to deliver.

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    Awesome. Helps Sky take IPL to more English fans.

    He'll be a marked man from now on though. Any failures and this comment will be repeatedly highlighted

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    Expect the usual IPL critics to run away from this thread.

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    The credit should go to Hasan Ali for dropping his sitter when he was on 4

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    The PR is on in full force in England.

    Paisa Bolta Hai

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    Ye kya hai @Bhaag Viru Bhaag

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varun View Post
    The PR is on in full force in England.

    Paisa Bolta Hai
    Exactly,we should had just given it to Murdoch initially,who knows how big it would had been by now.

    Glad ISL is with them as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
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    Whatever was written on Buttler's bat handle will be my response for the biggest joke of this month.

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    So England tied this series ft. India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreadPakoda View Post
    Expect the usual IPL critics to run away from this thread.
    India vs England series will be a win win situation for all IPL fans because whichever team wins credit will always be given to IPL for that. Enjoy your samosa Mr BreadPakoda.

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    Will the IPL also be given credit when England wipe the floor with India?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFM View Post
    Will the IPL also be given credit when England wipe the floor with India?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoib View Post
    The credit should go to Hasan Ali for dropping his sitter when he was on 4
    So in that case Buttler should give credit to PSL not IPL

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    Haters will have a hard time accepting, but IPL is the hottest thing in Cricket right now and it indeed has transformed many international Cricketers.

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    So IPL is helping test cricketers play with concentration against swing and seam these days? Buttler sure knows how to fool IPL fans. And funny thing is IPL fans are taking it seriously.
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    Burn of these hapless IPL haters is so good to see. Any thread with the word 'IPL' in it and they run to it like a swarm of bees.

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    For all the haters out ther
    Jus replace IPL with PSL...everything will look fine then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    So IPL is helping test cricketers play with concentration against swing and seam these days? Buttler sure knows how to fool IPL fans. And funny thing is IPL fans are taking it seriously.
    Even selectors tried to fool Buttler by selecting him for tests thinking he will not leave IPL midway but Buttler called their bluff and actually performed. Now selectors don't know whether they should laugh or cry.
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    Not sure why Virat Kohli was so eager to play county cricket before England test series when he has already got enough practice playing in swinging and seaming conditions?

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    Haha. Loving the burn. From selectors to commentators to the player himself - all have credited IPL for the selection and/or success and here we have petty keyboard warriors coping up through their kanspiracy theories.

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    Buttler giving real hard time to few people out ther..so much stomach pain

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreadPakoda View Post
    Haha. Loving the burn. From selectors to commentators to the player himself - all have credited IPL for the selection and/or success and here we have petty keyboard warriors coping up through their kanspiracy theories.
    Show them the money and they'll go to the moon and back. Doesn't prove anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    So IPL is helping test cricketers play with concentration against swing and seam these days? Buttler sure knows how to fool IPL fans. And funny thing is IPL fans are taking it seriously.
    Tbf he is saying it, in this logic we can never trust anyone on anything and that would be a slippery slope, because Butler has never spoken against T20 leagues as well.
    It's a diff matter with the ones who criticize it before and now praise the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketindiafan View Post
    Burn of these hapless IPL haters is so good to see. Any thread with the word 'IPL' in it and they run to it like a swarm of bees.
    Awww why do you guys get so defensive? Buttler praised IPL for his match winning knock against Pakistan in England. He is just praising IPL for more money. Only IPL bhakts can't see that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varun View Post
    Show them the money and they'll go to the moon and back. Doesn't prove anything.
    They even selected the player on the basis of his IPL form. IIRC Butlerís last FC century was in 2016.

    Money can buy you praise - agree. Can it buy you a selection? Ideally not. Unless you are suggesting something else here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreadPakoda View Post
    Haha. Loving the burn. From selectors to commentators to the player himself - all have credited IPL for the selection and/or success and here we have petty keyboard warriors coping up through their kanspiracy theories.
    So will you give credit to IPL if England wins the test series against India? I am damn sure IPL fans will give credit to IPL if India wins against England but will not utter a single word if we lose it.

    Hypocrisy of blind IPL fans is pretty clear. No one has blamed IPL for the injury that happened to Virat Kohli in an IPL match because for them IPL Match > Test series against England.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Awww why do you guys get so defensive? Buttler praised IPL for his match winning knock against Pakistan in England. He is just praising IPL for more money. Only IPL bhakts can't see that.
    Try reading his full interview to know how IPL has helped him unclutter his mind and helped his test match game awareness. Not sure though if you can comprehend all of what he's said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketindiafan View Post
    Try reading his full interview to know how IPL has helped him unclutter his mind and helped his test match game awarenedd. Not sure though if you can comprehend all of what he's said.
    Dude leave it. Nobody will believe this ** that T20 has helped a test cricketer unclutter his mind. People will laugh. If playing against Dinda, Unadkat, Balaji and Vinay Kumar in IPL can unclutter your mind and help you play well against Amir and Hassan then all of them would like to play there.

    You are making it look like Buttler learnt playing cricket in IPL and never hold a bat before. Why Virat Kohli wanted to play for Surrey when we have our own league to unclutter his mind?

    It's pretty clear their commentators, players and twitter experts like Vaughan knows how to earn more money.

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    No t20 league can help a batsman to improve his batting in test matches, but a good stint in a good t20 league helps in building confidence and that's what butler said.

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    Anyone saying that he said this just to make money is delusional.
    The franchise are smart enough to pick players on basis of their record and not on what they said in a xyz interview.
    Take joe root's example he praised the ipl and said that he will get better by participating in it but see what happened
    No franchise bought him. These franchises think 1000 times before investing, they pick players on skill and team balance rather than what xyz said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeeteshssaxena View Post
    Anyone saying that he said this just to make money is delusional.
    The franchise are smart enough to pick players on basis of their record and not on what they said in a xyz interview.
    Take joe root's example he praised the ipl and said that he will get better by participating in it but see what happened
    No franchise bought him. These franchises think 1000 times before investing, they pick players on skill and team balance rather than what xyz said.
    So when these players say things like 'I love India and Indian people' do you seriously believe them?

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    I dedicate this Thread to all my fellow Pak brothers who are being the silent spectators of the comments in this thread but can't write anything to defend their views because truth hurts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    So when these players say things like 'I love India and Indian people' do you seriously believe them?
    No i don't. But there is a big difference in the statement you quoted and what butler said.

    Why can't u understand that getting good scores in odis or even t20s help batsman in building confidence for upcoming test series? Yeah surely these leagues can't help a player to improve his technique, but they can be effective in removing the mental block.
    Many batsman had been picked up for tests after a good LO outing.As simple as it gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    So when these players say things like 'I love India and Indian people' do you seriously believe them?
    However veeru he was definitely selected for the tests on the basis of his gutsy innings in IPL. It could have backfired but he played good and indeed the IPL must have helped him to overcome his mental barrier.

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    More than the actual comment, the fact that he made it right after walloping Pakistan makes it even more harder to digest for a few. 😂😂😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeeteshssaxena View Post
    No i don't. But there is a big difference in the statement you quoted and what butler said.

    Why can't u understand that getting good scores in odis or even t20s help batsman in building confidence for upcoming test series? Yeah surely these leagues can't help a player to improve his technique, but they can be effective in removing the mental block.
    Many batsman had been picked up for tests after a good LO outing.As simple as it gets.
    Now from where did ODI's come into this discussion? Stick to IPL discussion here.

    How did Ben Stokes perform in IPL? Did he not perform well against Pakistan because he got distracted due to playing in IPL and not getting enough practice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ipl_fan View Post
    More than the actual comment, the fact that he made it right after walloping Pakistan makes it even more harder to digest for a few. 😂😂😂
    Last I checked series ended in a draw and he was dropped once by a pakistani fielder. May be he was in an IPL mode when he gave that catch but came back into his senses and played a match winning knock?

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    our beloved armchair critics are the ones who knows in and out of international cricket and their knowledge is better than selection committee, commentators and even players...and Yaa people who never held cricket bat in life can decode the batsman state of mind when he is playing the game..if batsmen plays a wrong shot its iplís influence else if he plays a match winning knock its bcoz he forgot that he played ipl match recently and if player himself says the influence of ipl on his man-of-the-match performance then he is lying and its the statement to lure ipl franchise

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    Seems like he's getting the praise in early for a contract for next year's edition



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Seems like he's getting the praise in early for a contract for next year's edition
    Based on performances in IPL his contract for next year was assured. Chris Gayle , Shane Watson. Lynn,naraine,Rashid khan, and few others who play in IPL just after PSL either miraculously returned to form or from injury.
    General explanation is pls bowling standards are way higher which may be true but is it possible most if these players take PSL as paid net practice where injury should not be risked not bothering weather next year PSL renews contract or not....

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    First let him play consecutive 5 test matches than we will see where he stand in test.people are chest pumping as if he have score double hundred and reality is he still averages 35 with the bat after playing more than 15 test which is medicore

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    People are burning as usual, but their third-degree burns will not change the fact that the IPL is the highest standard of limited overs cricket.

    It is international cricket in franchise form, and unlike international cricket, they are no filler teams and filler games. Every side is packed with quality players, and every game counts. Moreover, they are packed houses and the pressure is intense in every game.

    If you want to improve as a cricketer, the IPL is the place to be. Third class copycat leagues like the PSL, BPL, CPL, BBL etc. will never reach that level because playing in the IPL means something now.

    It is no longer a paid holiday or a retirement home for dead cricketers; it is an honor to play in the tournament because all the world class players play in it and some times, elite cricketers like Joe Root, Hashim Amla etc. are snubbed as well.

    It is the modern version of Kerry Packer's WSC. Moeen Ali's comments deeply wounded PPers, but he spoke the truth. Money is no longer the main factor for players wanting to play in the IPL; as Joe Root highlighted, it is a platform where you get to improve as a cricketer.

    World class players, high competition for places, no dead rubber games and huge crowds. Limited Overs cricket doesn't get any better. It is a shame that our players are not allowed to play in it, but of course it is entirely self-inflicted.

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    well IPL give him momentum, was a good knick in with RR, so it's just carried over test match..


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    Irony in this thread is majority of comments are from indian brother and there is hardly any pakistani .why should a indian burn from their league or the person is calling some jin bhoot who are burning?

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    Highest standard of limited overs cricket in which Kane Williamson bats like Viv Richards and a 36 year old Shane Watson smashes a 100 at 200+ SR.

    I have heard it all today!

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    He should credit his preformance to Hassan Ali dropping his catch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Dude leave it. Nobody will believe this ** that T20 has helped a test cricketer unclutter his mind. People will laugh. If playing against Dinda, Unadkat, Balaji and Vinay Kumar in IPL can unclutter your mind and help you play well against Amir and Hassan then all of them would like to play there.

    You are making it look like Buttler learnt playing cricket in IPL and never hold a bat before. Why Virat Kohli wanted to play for Surrey when we have our own league to unclutter his mind?

    It's pretty clear their commentators, players and twitter experts like Vaughan knows how to earn more money.
    The only one who should 'leave it' is you. Exaggeration, emotional **, anything to convince yourself what you believe in is the only truth. You have my full sympathies though.

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    To be really frank cricket I don't think Buttler has said anything wrong. I don't know why people are getting worked up over a legitimate comment. Everyone knows that Buttler is incredibly talented. People in England always felt that he should be playing test cricket. He just said that playing in a tournament under pressure gave him immense confidence which he carried over to the Pakistan tests. I don't understand what is wrong in that? Did he say he learnt batting in IPL or learnt to counter swing in IPL? Cricket is a game of confidence and mental aspect to batting or Bowling is rather understated.

    A player can be in a zone and can translate the success of one format to the other if he is in the right frame of mind. It is strange that people who consider themselves as cricket fans don't understand this and are just getting worked up because IPL was mentioned by the player. If he had played in PSL and had the same streak, he would have mentioned that as well. Also drop catches are part of the game and it is not Buttlers fault that Pakistan couldn't catch dollies. He made the most of it and played an important innings which helped his team to win the test. That is all matters.

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    But I thought IPL is the worst thing ever based on the experts here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by brodipet_baadshah View Post
    our beloved armchair critics are the ones who knows in and out of international cricket and their knowledge is better than selection committee, commentators and even players...and yaa people who never held cricket bat in life can decode the batsman state of mind when he is playing the game..if batsmen plays a wrong shot its iplís influence else if he plays a match winning knock its bcoz he forgot that he played ipl match recently and if player himself says the influence of ipl on his man-of-the-match performance then he is lying and its the statement to lure ipl franchise
    potw

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    Without IPL, I doubt Buttler would've been selected for this series and help them defeat Pakistan. He is their highest run scorer, which tells you the quality of IPL in the first place. We need more players like Buttler to play Test Cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Last I checked series ended in a draw and he was dropped once by a pakistani fielder. May be he was in an IPL mode when he gave that catch but came back into his senses and played a match winning knock?
    Sometimes I feel, you are Sresanth who hates IPL for a reason. I am not a fan either but I do not hate it as it has helped many poor cricketers to make their marks who would never play international cricket.
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    So ECB selected a player in the final XI based on his IPL form just to earn some brownie points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    Highest standard of limited overs cricket in which Kane Williamson bats like Viv Richards and a 36 year old Shane Watson smashes a 100 at 200+ SR.

    I have heard it all today!
    Lol what's wrong with Kane and Watson ?
    36 year old Watson will easily thrash your current tudlers on flat IPL pitches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    Highest standard of limited overs cricket in which Kane Williamson bats like Viv Richards and a 36 year old Shane Watson smashes a 100 at 200+ SR.

    I have heard it all today!
    The same Watson scored 300+ runs in PSL and BBL earlier this year (Played 10 games in each though compared to 15 in IPL). His average in all three tournaments was about the same and his SR was higher in IPL, that is because the pitches were more suited to batting. I don't understand how Watson's success should downgrade a tournament. He performed almost similar in all T20 leagues he has participated in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    People are burning as usual, but their third-degree burns will not change the fact that the IPL is the highest standard of limited overs cricket.

    It is international cricket in franchise form, and unlike international cricket, they are no filler teams and filler games. Every side is packed with quality players, and every game counts. Moreover, they are packed houses and the pressure is intense in every game.

    If you want to improve as a cricketer, the IPL is the place to be. Third class copycat leagues like the PSL, BPL, CPL, BBL etc. will never reach that level because playing in the IPL means something now.

    It is no longer a paid holiday or a retirement home for dead cricketers; it is an honor to play in the tournament because all the world class players play in it and some times, elite cricketers like Joe Root, Hashim Amla etc. are snubbed as well.

    It is the modern version of Kerry Packer's WSC. Moeen Ali's comments deeply wounded PPers, but he spoke the truth. Money is no longer the main factor for players wanting to play in the IPL; as Joe Root highlighted, it is a platform where you get to improve as a cricketer.

    World class players, high competition for places, no dead rubber games and huge crowds. Limited Overs cricket doesn't get any better. It is a shame that our players are not allowed to play in it, but of course it is entirely self-inflicted.
    It's just a T20 mickey mouse league. Show them the money and they will flock, plus it's India they have been packing houses for decades. All T20 league are just fun tournaments, nothing more to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuskash View Post
    Sometimes I feel, you are Sresanth who hates IPL for a reason. I am not a fan either but I do not hate it as it has helped many poor cricketers to make their marks who would never play international cricket.
    And who are you? An IPL cheerleader? If you don't have anything relevant to add here then don't comment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketindiafan View Post
    The only one who should 'leave it' is you. Exaggeration, emotional **, anything to convince yourself what you believe in is the only truth. You have my full sympathies though.
    You haven't answered my question yet. You are just arguing just for the sake of it now and getting desperate along with your gang members.

    Let me ask again. Why have you not blamed IPL for Kohli's injury? You do know he had to skip county matches which he badly wanted to before england test series.

    Another question is will you blame IPL if India lose series against England?

    I will expect an honest answer from you this time other than your usual blabbering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balthazar View Post
    Without IPL, I doubt Buttler would've been selected for this series and help them defeat Pakistan. He is their highest run scorer, which tells you the quality of IPL in the first place. We need more players like Buttler to play Test Cricket.
    What about Ben Stokes? Did he play in a different league or what? Lol Buttler helped his team beat Pakistan in his home country. Come back to me if he helps his team beat India in India or Pakistan in UAE in test cricket.

    So he played on patta and slow pitches in the subcontinent for 2 months and then came back to his seaming, cloudy conditions and help his team level series against Pakistan. Got dropped once too in that inning but still gave credit to IPL for a more lucrative contract next year. It's so simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Seems like he's getting the praise in early for a contract for next year's edition
    That is pretty obvious. They come here praise india just for money and their future. They know very well some indian fans are pretty sensitive and can't take criticism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    Highest standard of limited overs cricket in which Kane Williamson bats like Viv Richards and a 36 year old Shane Watson smashes a 100 at 200+ SR.

    I have heard it all today!
    Kane batted like Viv? Who were the bowlers?

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    People who have not played any sport at a competitive level do not understand that half he battle is in the mind.. What butler meant was that playing IPL and scoring runs improved his confidence and got his mind at the right place.. It doesnít mean he improved his skill set or ability to play test cricket in IPL..

    Itís all a mental warfare if you have never played sports at a decent level you wonít understand it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kriketer View Post
    It's just a T20 mickey mouse league. Show them the money and they will flock, plus it's India they have been packing houses for decades. All T20 league are just fun tournaments, nothing more to it.
    Whether its IPL, PSL, BPL, BBL or CPL all these players now know how to fool local audiences by praising their country, people, food or leagues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    Highest standard of limited overs cricket in which Kane Williamson bats like Viv Richards and a 36 year old Shane Watson smashes a 100 at 200+ SR.

    I have heard it all today!
    Still better than people like Kamran being the top scorer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_gamer007 View Post
    People who have not played any sport at a competitive level do not understand that half he battle is in the mind.. What butler meant was that playing IPL and scoring runs improved his confidence and got his mind at the right place.. It doesnít mean he improved his skill set or ability to play test cricket in IPL..

    Itís all a mental warfare if you have never played sports at a decent level you wonít understand it..
    If thats your logic then 99.99% of the members here haven't played cricket. We shouldn't join this forum until we play some kind of sport.

    Also this logic can be used against you guys too when an ex cricketer like Michael Holding makes fun of IPL and he has every right to do so because he has played cricket and you haven't. So use these logics wisely here.

    I can see you guys are quick to explain how Buttler got mentally tough by playing in IPL but not a single IPL fan here has blamed IPL for physically injuring our captain Kohli.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_gamer007 View Post
    People who have not played any sport at a competitive level do not understand that half he battle is in the mind.. What butler meant was that playing IPL and scoring runs improved his confidence and got his mind at the right place.. It doesn’t mean he improved his skill set or ability to play test cricket in IPL..

    It’s all a mental warfare if you have never played sports at a decent level you won’t understand it..
    This!
    Obviously IPL will not improve techniques or skills for Test.
    All it can do is give confidence and motivated the player to do well.
    Buttler never said that he learnt playing test in IPL, no one does.
    But, the way he was striking the cherry at the end of the innings showed the confidence he had in himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kriketer View Post
    It's just a T20 mickey mouse league. Show them the money and they will flock, plus it's India they have been packing houses for decades. All T20 league are just fun tournaments, nothing more to it.
    Players seem to disagree with you on your views about IPL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    If thats your logic then 99.99% of the members here haven't played cricket. We shouldn't join this forum until we play some kind of sport.

    Also this logic can be used against you guys too when an ex cricketer like Michael Holding makes fun of IPL and he has every right to do so because he has played cricket and you haven't. So use these logics wisely here.

    I can see you guys are quick to explain how Buttler got mentally tough by playing in IPL but not a single IPL fan here has blamed IPL for physically injuring our captain Kohli.

    Mate I have seen enough posts here to know about your biases against IPL for whatever reason.. You have made your mindset and whatever anyone says you will never change your opinion so I donít want to debate much on this topic with you as itís a futile exercise..

    Yes he has every right to criticise IPL.. At the end of the day IPL has top notch physios, trainers, coaches, support staff, paychologists etc. In addition there are plenty of legends involved with IPL either through commentary or some other mentoriship or just as viewers.. If I as a player have a problem and I see a Shane Warne at a party or post match event I can approach him and discuss things with him which can help me out..

    These are little things which you donít see on TV but help a lot as a player.. similarly if I am feeling depressed I have top notch mental fitness trainers to help me out..

    I donít know if you have played any level of sport or not but when I used to play there were some times when I was feelin so confident before the match that I use to perform better against better players than when my mindset was not right and I used to play worse against worse players.. Sports is as much mental as it is physical, and sometimes when you are going through a bad run of form even hitting few practise bowlers in nets for few overs in middle of bat can help your mindset..

    With the crowds in IPL and on flat pitches he struck the ball well and helped his team win a few games single handedlh that immensely improved his confidence and he took that positive mindset in test series against Pakistan.. I donít know why itís so difficult for anyone to understand..

    You mistook my post and took it personally it seems I never said you shouldnít post or give opinions here this forum is all for it.. I meant reading your posts it seems you donít understand the concept of being at the right place mentally which can be achieved differently for different players like the example I quoted above and for butler it seems IPL got him there.. If you had played any sport st a decent level you would have understood what I meant since it would have happened with you as well, if not then I can understand why itís difficult for you to not get thatís point as you havenít experienced itís yourself.. That does not mean you should not post just keep an open mind and understand how mental warfare affects performance of a player..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post

    I can see you guys are quick to explain how Buttler got mentally tough by playing in IPL but not a single IPL fan here has blamed IPL for physically injuring our captain Kohli.
    Why should IPL be blamed for Kohli's injury. That was because of his greed. He asked for 2.55 million dollars (17 Crores INR) which is highest for any player in the season and then he didn't yield results this season. The franchise had to earn money from other avenues. Why will they leave Kohli for his injury? Kohli alone has to be blamed for his greed not IPL.

    If you don't get it. Take this analogy.

    You go for Scuba Diving. You feel enriched, refreshed and you will admire Scuba Driving.
    If you get eaten by Shark for your stupidity then you will blamed for it. Not the scuba diving.

    Same happenss everywhere around the world.
    IPL is there to provide you a paid vacation.
    You can stay relaxed with lesser expectations from you.
    You get world class coaching facilities, mentors like Sachin, Warne, Wasim. Players should come for their improvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    People are burning as usual, but their third-degree burns will not change the fact that the IPL is the highest standard of limited overs cricket.

    It is international cricket in franchise form, and unlike international cricket, they are no filler teams and filler games. Every side is packed with quality players, and every game counts. Moreover, they are packed houses and the pressure is intense in every game.

    If you want to improve as a cricketer, the IPL is the place to be. Third class copycat leagues like the PSL, BPL, CPL, BBL etc. will never reach that level because playing in the IPL means something now.

    It is no longer a paid holiday or a retirement home for dead cricketers; it is an honor to play in the tournament because all the world class players play in it and some times, elite cricketers like Joe Root, Hashim Amla etc. are snubbed as well.

    It is the modern version of Kerry Packer's WSC. Moeen Ali's comments deeply wounded PPers, but he spoke the truth. Money is no longer the main factor for players wanting to play in the IPL; as Joe Root highlighted, it is a platform where you get to improve as a cricketer.

    World class players, high competition for places, no dead rubber games and huge crowds. Limited Overs cricket doesn't get any better. It is a shame that our players are not allowed to play in it, but of course it is entirely self-inflicted.

    Spot on. IPL is extremely competitive whereas nobody takes international t20s seriously unless its a t20 world Cup. Most of the teams show laid back attitude in international t20s and they play this format just for the sake of playing. Nothing else. They feel no motivation and winning or losing in international t20s means almost nothing. Most teams take international t20s as something where they can try out their new, untested and rookie players.

    But that's not the case in IPL. There is no place of relaxed or laid back attitude in IPL. In IPL every match is important and there's no place of experimentation in this highly competitive league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CobraRules View Post
    Why should IPL be blamed for Kohli's injury. That was because of his greed. He asked for 2.55 million dollars (17 Crores INR) which is highest for any player in the season and then he didn't yield results this season. The franchise had to earn money from other avenues. Why will they leave Kohli for his injury? Kohli alone has to be blamed for his greed not IPL.

    If you don't get it. Take this analogy.

    You go for Scuba Diving. You feel enriched, refreshed and you will admire Scuba Driving.
    If you get eaten by Shark for your stupidity then you will blamed for it. Not the scuba diving.

    Same happenss everywhere around the world.
    IPL is there to provide you a paid vacation.
    You can stay relaxed with lesser expectations from you.
    You get world class coaching facilities, mentors like Sachin, Warne, Wasim. Players should come for their improvement.
    See @big_gamer007 this post is what is wrong with some of you fans. Now if you have played any kind of sports you know that playing useless matches and getting injured before an important series can be very depressing for a player. Now Virat Kohli's confidence will be pretty low because he couldn't play county cricket before the test series. And he has a point to prove this time in England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    See @big_gamer007 this post is what is wrong with some of you fans. Now if you have played any kind of sports you know that playing useless matches and getting injured before an important series can be very depressing for a player. Now Virat Kohli's confidence will be pretty low because he couldn't play county cricket before the test series. And he has a point to prove this time in England.
    Exactly. When did I say it's not wrong? As much I admire Virat Kohli for his Cricketing ability, I feel disappointed for his stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CobraRules View Post
    Exactly. When did I say it's not wrong? As much I admire Virat Kohli for his Cricketing ability, I feel disappointed for his stupidity.
    Likewise you should give credit to Jos Buttler for his good performance not IPL.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Likewise you should give credit to Jos Buttler for his good performance not IPL.
    True. But isn't it Jos Buttler himself that is crediting the IPL. The rest here are just discussing his statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    What about Ben Stokes? Did he play in a different league or what? Lol Buttler helped his team beat Pakistan in his home country. Come back to me if he helps his team beat India in India or Pakistan in UAE in test cricket.

    So he played on patta and slow pitches in the subcontinent for 2 months and then came back to his seaming, cloudy conditions and help his team level series against Pakistan. Got dropped once too in that inning but still gave credit to IPL for a more lucrative contract next year. It's so simple.
    What are you trying to say here? They have selected Buttler for Test series on the basis of IPL performance and inturn, he delivered by scoring runs for his team. Without IPL, Buttler wouldn't have been selected. So IPL is indeed important when it comes to national selections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Likewise you should give credit to Jos Buttler for his good performance not IPL.
    Yes, I give credit to Butler but don't want to discredit IPL.
    IPL is an exposure. It's a rejuvenation. A vacation where there is less expectations and more freedom to play when compared with a National team for a player.
    IPL can give all he needs but in the end, what matters is how he utilises it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balthazar View Post
    What are you trying to say here? They have selected Buttler for Test series on the basis of IPL performance and inturn, he delivered by scoring runs for his team. Without IPL, Buttler wouldn't have been selected. So IPL is indeed important when it comes to national selections.
    Not really true. If Buttler hasn't played the IPL but showed any vague bit of form in the county championship Smith would've still picked him given he's a massive fan of him.
    Last edited by HitWicket; 6th June 2018 at 08:52.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CobraRules View Post
    Yes, I give credit to Butler but don't want to discredit IPL.
    IPL is an exposure. It's a rejuvenation. A vacation where there is less expectations and more freedom to play when compared with a National team for a player.
    IPL can give all he needs but in the end, what matters is how he utilises it.
    So IPL is a vacation? Expectation is less from players being paid 100s of 1000s of dollars? Players are being selected in their test teams on the basis of IPL.


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