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  1. #81
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    He will bowl the spell if his life in World Cup final next year against India. Mark these words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shandarchowka View Post
    He will bowl the spell if his life in World Cup final next year against India. Mark these words.
    I bet he will.

    Only if Fakhar gets a Huge Ton and Pakistan set India a target of 350 runs.

    Any target in range of 250 will lead to Prince Amir fizzling out like during the last India Pakistan match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Bassim View Post
    Corrected.

    Because that is his true worth.
    Why should your opinion be given any worth when you are on record of having said that India cannot beat Pakistan and then they proceeded to beat us twice in two times with exceeding bigger margins.


    Perhaps commenting on cricket isn't your forte.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Why should your opinion be given any worth when you are on record of having said that India cannot beat Pakistan and then they proceeded to beat us twice in two times with exceeding bigger margins.


    Perhaps commenting on cricket isn't your forte.
    If that is how you want to play it, you were chirping just as merrily.

    So your opinion isnt worth a penny either.


    And I get so high.. And I just can't feel it....

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    Only due to Pakistan's cultist obsession is why amir is apparently the best bowler in the world and the next akram. Any sane Pakistani fan knows amir is not even the best left hand bowler in pakistan, let alone the world, he is no where near starc, anderson, rabada, cummins, boult, southee.

    Amir has only bowled well in england, where the ball swings. Since his comeback, in tests everywhere he has been thrashed to say the least . Though he was reasonable in west indies( where pitches were seaming. Abbas, jason holder and shannon gabriel all outbowled amir in that series). Amir relies on swing and seam a lot.

    With bowlers like junaid khan, mir hamza, sadaf hussain, it is a wonder why pcb still persists with amir. Even wahab riaz is a better test bowler than amir. Junaid Khan has taken wickets on flat UAE pitches, Sri Lankan pitches. He should be the first choice bowler in odis and test matches. Then this hero amir came along and ruined the chances for all these high quality bowlers, who are way more deserving than amir.

    Amir does not deserve to tour south Africa, I can already imagine faf du plesis, dean elgar driving amir's deliveries like a car. if pcb has any sense in them they should pick junaid khan, mir hamza to south africa.

    He was good in limited overs after his comeback, but 3 wickets in his last 11 matches means he is even not even good at that now.

    For the sake of Pakistan cricket, pcb should drop him for atleast a year.

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    @Chief Destroyer what is your opinion ?


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    @Chief Destroyer what is your opinion ?
    My opinion hasn't changed. It's more technical than anything but I don't know if he understands or can get the help necessary to correct the minor flaws which has turned him from 150k to a 140k bowler.


    A skilled hawk conceals its talons.

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    The group of cricketers for whom people are generally the quickest to write obituaries are fast bowlers!





    He is far from dead....

    He will be back!


    Kut khani hai to aa jao idher, khushbo laga ke!

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    He probably needed to be dropped. If he is to want to play for the team, then he needs to be consistent. A great bowler on his day, but that needs to be more consistent.

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    He is a class act, needed some break and reality check, will bounce back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    My opinion hasn't changed. It's more technical than anything but I don't know if he understands or can get the help necessary to correct the minor flaws which has turned him from 150k to a 140k bowler.
    It's not easy to make those adjustments either assuming he is aware of them, not sure if he can; we've seen bowlers in the past experience a set back and they're not always able to rediscover their technical prowess. Amir even when he has been bowling well isn't quiet the same, but I suppose he can still be effective in the scenarios @Junaids pointed out and find a 5th gear when he is up for it.


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    I remember Trent Boult after injury (2 years ago I think) - he lost pace and many thought his career was finished because he became a harmless trundler, look at him now.

    Amir's form at present is a concern but write him off at your peril.

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    Having watched Amir bowl I have noticed how he tends to land a good deal heavier on his back foot than previously. This means he can get a bit 'stuck' in the crease, where before he had almost a light touch from his left foot. When he bowls well his heel doesn't really impact the ground. But recently he's been hitting this position hard. Often this can be caused by a slowing down of the run up, or hesitating in the jump into the crease - but the effect of it is to take ground speed away. As a semi-front on bowler, he is more likely to rely on that ground speed into his action before transferring it into the ball through sequencing.

    Sequencing, or rhythm & timing is vital. The knock on effect of sequencing being disturbed is it can detract from two things: speed & consistency.

    What is always true is that any alterations in action, however small, can impact on the release of the ball. And Amir is someone who has great pace and swing, which is what made him such a 17 year-old superstar. To lose that swing will clearly affect his confidence. But this is not as simple as making Amir feel good about himself. It is ensuring his fleshy part of his left hand - the karate chop part of it - LEADS the ball on release. What appears to be happening is he isn't getting that shape on the ball release and the drum stick part of the hand under the thumb, tends to push first. Here we can substitute Mohammad Amir for Wahab Riaz, who suffers from the same tweak needed to get that devastating swing back.
    Last edited by ataullah; 30th September 2018 at 21:00.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shandarchowka View Post
    He will bowl the spell if his life in World Cup final next year against India. Mark these words.
    Yes. Kohli will win the toss and Pak will bat first. Bumrah will get Fakhar out but it will be a no ball. Fakhar then destroys Indian lineup and Babar, Hafeez and Malik help Pak score a formidable score. But Azhar Ali needs to play, score a 50 and then get run out though. He also needs to.drop Kohli so that Shadab will catch it later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Had the spot-fixing not happened, Amir would have been history by 2013-2014. He does not have the stomach to do the hard yards on these UAE pitches.

    If Umar Akmal would have been banned alongside him in 2010, people would have reminded everyone for 5 years that Pakistan were robbed of the next Miandad. The spot-fixing did not ruin Amir's career - it only increased the hype around him and delayed the inevitable, i.e. his demise as an international cricketer.
    Amir apparently gave an interview recently indicating that the 5 years he missed cost him from being a 300 test wicket bowler by now. He said it takes 2 years to get to.prime bowling form after a lengthy break and he needs to have a lot of bowling under him before he can get into a rhythm. The busy scheduling hasn't enabled that and he is back into domestic cricket now and wished he played domestic for a little longer before coming back to international cricket

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhony View Post
    Amir apparently gave an interview recently indicating that the 5 years he missed cost him from being a 300 test wicket bowler by now. He said it takes 2 years to get to.prime bowling form after a lengthy break and he needs to have a lot of bowling under him before he can get into a rhythm. The busy scheduling hasn't enabled that and he is back into domestic cricket now and wished he played domestic for a little longer before coming back to international cricket
    Amir gets too much attention to be honest. This thread is also meritted for the likes of Junaid Khan, Rahat Ali, Wahab Riaz, Imran Khan and co who go about their jobs with very little support and don't complain about the work load, tough pitches, having to bowl in the UAE.

    No Amir would not have been a 300 test wicket bowler by now, he could very easily have had a career threatening injury given the volume of cricket that is being played these days. Or the fact that he is not as great a bowler as he is hyped to be would have caught up with him and he would have lost favor with the PCB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Amir gets too much attention to be honest. This thread is also meritted for the likes of Junaid Khan, Rahat Ali, Wahab Riaz, Imran Khan and co who go about their jobs with very little support and don't complain about the work load, tough pitches, having to bowl in the UAE.

    No Amir would not have been a 300 test wicket bowler by now, he could very easily have had a career threatening injury given the volume of cricket that is being played these days. Or the fact that he is not as great a bowler as he is hyped to be would have caught up with him and he would have lost favor with the PCB.
    Junaid and co work harder but Amir gets the attention because he has that X factor. The child prodigy who was supposed to be the successor of Wasim. The 5 year loss has put that to an end to an extent. However, I agree with some of the posters here. It is an alarming dip in form. Just that. He still has the ability. It is similar to Kohli in the previous England test series where he was Jimmy's bunny. And we all saw what champions are made of in the recent series. Amir is a champion. The next one year is a great test for him and being dropped will be the pivotal.moment of his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhony View Post
    Junaid and co work harder but Amir gets the attention because he has that X factor. The child prodigy who was supposed to be the successor of Wasim. The 5 year loss has put that to an end to an extent. However, I agree with some of the posters here. It is an alarming dip in form. Just that. He still has the ability. It is similar to Kohli in the previous England test series where he was Jimmy's bunny. And we all saw what champions are made of in the recent series. Amir is a champion. The next one year is a great test for him and being dropped will be the pivotal.moment of his career.
    Junaid has dismissed Kohli three times in seaming conditions. Junaid has taken the bulk of his wickets in UAE and Subcontinent. If properly backed Junaid will prove to have more X factor than Amir. Amir's stats are nothing championship like to be honest.

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    Exactly. Junaid has performed with whatever little opportunities he received on pitches with no assistance for seamers and getting 5 -wicket hauls there. He deserves to be recalled to the test side. Who knows what he will do in south africa or england?

    Amir has had way too many chances for his supposed "X factor". Amir does not deserve to tour south africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhony View Post
    Amir apparently gave an interview recently indicating that the 5 years h
    e missed cost him from being a 300 test wicket bowler by now. He said it takes 2 years to get to.prime bowling form after a lengthy break and he needs to have a lot of bowling under him before he can get into a rhythm. The busy scheduling hasn't enabled that and he is back into domestic cricket now and wished he played domestic for a little longer before coming back to international cricket
    He could have asked for playing domestic if he was serious about it rather playing minnows/county cricket ie helpful conditions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Horse View Post
    He could have asked for playing domestic if he was serious about it rather playing minnows/county cricket ie helpful conditions
    Lol Amir complains about workload and then seeks sympathy saying he missed out on 5 years of cricket and how he should have toiled in domestic cricket bowling countless overs. It just does not make sense. If his body, fitness and form cannot cope with the volume of cricket that is being played in these times, it is for certain he would have faded and been axed had the spot fixing ban not happened.

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    Amir needs to be careful that he doesn't get too many 'experts' messing around with his bowling.

    At the moment every coach is an expert out there.



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    Just wanted to share this here because I know everyone will enjoy it.

    But I have to say, even at 52, Wasim is swinging the ball more than Amir has in years.

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    "It’s Mohammad Amir's lack of confidence that has worn him down" : SSGC Coach

    KARACHI: Sui Southern Gas Corporation (SSGC) head coach Atiq-uz-Zaman believes Pakistan pacer Mohammad Amir should be withdrawn from international duty until the national’s team tour of South Africa early next year.

    Amir’s hiring to the department’s cricket team was announced by Zaman last week, who said the fast-bowler needs time away from the hectic schedule of international cricket to regain his best form.

    “There are a lot of reasons why Amir’s pace has relatively declined and he is not getting swing any longer,” Zaman told Dawn during a telephonic conversation on Tuesday.

    “From his fatigue level to how he is unable to make the most of the crease, and how his wrist position is not suitable for swing bowling, many things have been pointed out by the people. But I believe, it’s his lack of confidence that has worn him down,” added Zaman.

    Zaman attributed Amir’s lack of confidence to him not being able to perform up to the expectations for quite some time. “Amir is under performance-related stress. As a player, sometimes when things are not going your way, you start to believe that you are not going to perform at all. Unfortunately, Amir is currently at that stage,” he added further.

    Responding to a question, Zaman said his team has a good pace-bowling attack that will give Amir the confidence he needs at the moment.

    “Even if he does not pick up a wicket bowling alongside our bowlers, we will ensure that he enjoys his bowling. The stress and burden of expectations he carries while bowling in international cricket will not be here in the domestic competitions. It will be ideal for Amir to regain his lost confidence by playing the Quaid-i-Azam Trophy,” elaborated Zaman.

    “I have talked to Mickey Arthur as well about Mohammad Amir and he is on the same page with us on his issue. We will keep him in the loop as regards to Amir’s performance in the ongoing domestic competition,” said Zaman.

    “I have been communicating a lot with Amir for the last three to four days. Our goal is to help him get his rhythm back with the white ball. We will have a session with Amir where we will watch his videos of PSL and other games in which he did well. He will identify the issues himself,” said Zaman.

    When asked whether fast-tracking Amir into the national side was a good move, Zaman said that he had opposed Amir’s comeback three years ago.

    “When he was playing the qualifying round for us back in 2015, his fitness level was not up to the mark. He was getting tired earlier than the rest. I had suggested then to work on his fitness rather than fast-tracking him into the national team.

    “When I had a chat with Amir two years ago in Manchester, he had said to me that he wanted to rest. But unfortunately, he couldn’t get any because Pakistan was struggling with its pace bowlers,” revealed Zaman.

    “Now that Pakistan has found decent pace bowlers, Amir can be given a rest from the cricket played in Dubai and be asked to prepare himself for Pakistan’s tour to South Africa.”

    He believes that, Kabir Khan, the bowling coach of SSGC, will also help Amir overcome his bowling issues.

    Published in Dawn, October 3rd, 2018


    Source:::: https://www.dawn.com/news/1436409/am...gc-coach-zaman

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    He has good points here.

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    In all honesty, Amir is living off the Champions Trophy final performance at the moment and that will not last forever.

    Young bowlers are coming up on the rails, they are hungry and keen to progress.

    Amir needs to watch over his shoulder before it's too late.



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    Seriously in the English summer earlier this year he looked the best he has looked since he returned in test cricket he should have been rested from that useless zim tour fatigue played its part with Amir and Hassan drop in performance level

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    Like Babar Azam and Sarfaraz Ahmed, Amir will put in a great shift soon enough and the public will jump over each other to get back on the bandwagon.

    Amir is a fantastic player and a future great. He will surely regain his best form soon enough, InshAllah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_outsider View Post


    Just wanted to share this here because I know everyone will enjoy it.

    But I have to say, even at 52, Wasim is swinging the ball more than Amir has in years.
    Greatest left armer to have graced this game. Wow what a bowler Akram was, he will walk into any all time team.

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    No he won't , he was never destined to be great. More average than Irfan pathan. Irfan bowled 3 beautiful bowls to get hattrick in first over of test match, amir bowled one to Stephen Smith and Mitchell Johnson and people cry wasim wasim. I liked him too but he is not the same cricketer, sad to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadaja View Post
    Greatest left armer to have graced this game. Wow what a bowler Akram was, he will walk into any all time team.
    Wasim wasn't just a cricketer or a bowler. He was an artist.

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    We need 3 fast bowlers for the South African Test Series, Right now we only have Abbas. Hopefully he can come back as the 3rd pacer behind M Abbas & Shaheen Shah Afridi

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    Mickey Arthur lays it out for Amir in his interview with us

    http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...-Mickey-Arthur


    PakPassion.net: Mohammad Amir is not in any Pakistan squad at the moment but what is being done to monitor his progress during his time away from the national side?

    Mickey Arthur:
    Mohammad Amir knows what he needs to do to get back into international cricket. I regularly speak to Amir and his coach in the domestic side who has done some good work with him. What he is doing now is following up on information that Azhar Mahmood and I have sent through to him. We monitor Amir’s progress which includes looking at his recent videos from domestic games. Every time he bowls, we look at the videos and send our comments back to him. Let’s be clear about the fact that Mohammad Amir is a quality bowler, he has big-match temperament and I am hoping that we can have Mohammad Amir back in the fold, sooner rather than later provided he gives us the ammunition to pick him. It's runs for batsmen which is the criteria for selection and similarly, it’s wickets for bowlers which are important. If we can get Mohammad Amir swinging the ball again, getting though his action and be very comfortable with the hunger and desire to win games for Pakistan, then Mohammad Amir has a big future with the side.


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    Clear message from Mickey - wickets, swing, seam, technical improvements and hnger and desire to win games for Pakistan.

    I sent Mickey's comments to Mohammad Amir today.




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