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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwoodOriginal View Post
    Markram has only done well at home. Has done nothing to prove himself abroad so saying he is miles ahead of Babar is an overstatement because Babar actually has a few innings of note in England, New Zealand and West Indies.Not saying Babar is better in tests but neither is Markram.
    He has done well on the graveyards for batsmen- SA pitches. Babar can stake claim of dominance after his performances in the SA series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godhelpma View Post
    All these players will fall apart one by one in comparison with babar and in the end he ll only stand fast inshallah .Be relaxed mates and Let the Indian bros bring players one by one for comparison with babar , and see them fading one by one ������.
    Okay then. Virat Kohli vs Babar Azam.

    Go.

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    Markram is great and will likely develop in both a great player and captain but writing Babar off or saying one will be better than the other makes no sense because a) Babar has actually done really well in LOI up till now whereas, Markram often struggles to find a place in South Africa's ODI starting XI. And while Markram has dominated at home in tests he failed miserably against spin in Sri Lanka which shows he has a long way to go. Babar though not particularly good in tests has actually shown signs of promise with a couple of innings in New Zealand and England and is a work in progress. So to say Markram is/is going to be better than Babar makes no sense and any such comparison should be made after atleast a year or two

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhony View Post
    He has done well on the graveyards for batsmen- SA pitches. Babar can stake claim of dominance after his performances in the SA series.
    SA pitches are not graveyards for South African batsmen who know how to bat there better than anyone. And while he has played some very good innings against Australia and India he has also had the benefit of feasting on Bangladeshi and Zimbabwean bowling attacks

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwoodOriginal View Post
    SA pitches are not graveyards for South African batsmen who know how to bat there better than anyone. And while he has played some very good innings against Australia and India he has also had the benefit of feasting on Bangladeshi and Zimbabwean bowling attacks
    They are tough conditions for batsmen. Yes, more so for visiting teams. Everybody feasts on minnows. That's why they are called minnows. Babar ate them for breakfast, lunch and dinner too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhony View Post
    They are tough conditions for batsmen. Yes, more so for visiting teams. Everybody feasts on minnows. That's why they are called minnows. Babar ate them for breakfast, lunch and dinner too.
    Babar has also scored in tough conditions, those which are especially considered tough for sub-continental batsmen. Markram has not. It's pointless to compare both but it's undeniable that Babar has made more of a mark up till now than Markram

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varun View Post
    Okay then. Virat Kohli vs Babar Azam.

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    Why you bringing bazooka for knife fight


    #Hum apko container deingaye dharnay ke liyay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Why you bringing bazooka for knife fight
    How could I resist? He was blatantly asking for it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwoodOriginal View Post
    Markram has only done well at home. Has done nothing to prove himself abroad so saying he is miles ahead of Babar is an overstatement because Babar actually has a few innings of note in England, New Zealand and West Indies.Not saying Babar is better in tests but neither is Markram.
    They note innings against india but he played match winning innings against England , ireland and Australia

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    This is downright hypocrisy when comparing Babar Azam with Aiden Markram.

    Aiden Markram has got big hundreds against Australia.But that is irrelevant because they come in South Africa. However, he is already designated as HTB even though away from home, he has played just 2 tests.

    In contrast, we are hearing about a 68 odd Babar scored against England and 53 he scored against Ireland who have played only one test in their lifetime and are currently bigger minnow to Zimbabwe as well.

    There is no explanation to this except that Markram has established himself in longer format while Babar is yet to establish himself. One or two 60s or 80s aren't enough. In contrast, Aiden has got a 143 and 151 against great Aus attack and was their prolific run-scorer in that series.

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    Babar just knows how to score soft runs when there is no pressure. He cannot win games on his own. Markram has already won SA a test series against Australia. He knows how to dominate the bowlers. I just think records are overrated. Cut out the stats of Babar against ZIM, WI and SL and you will see an average of below 40. And he has been poor in tests till now. I know he will come good there eventually as will Markram in ODIs but Babar will always be a league below Markram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhony View Post
    He has done well on the graveyards for batsmen- SA pitches. Babar can stake claim of dominance after his performances in the SA series.
    Still home. Home stats mean nothing in tests. Absolutely zilch. If you don't perform well abroad, you're mediocre, simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    No, Babar has not proved everything. He is yet to make his mark in Test cricket.
    Soon he will start scoring heavily in test cricket also be patient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    Still home. Home stats mean nothing in tests. Absolutely zilch. If you don't perform well abroad, you're mediocre, simple as that.
    He just played 2 matches abroad. Calm down. Scoring hundreds against best test bowling attacks Australia and India in trying conditions is never zilch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhony View Post
    He just played 2 matches abroad. Calm down. Scoring hundreds against best test bowling attacks Australia and India in trying conditions is never zilch.
    Give Time To Both,
    Babat Is Ahead

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    Bobby Azam dominated 1st test

    Markram showing his class in 2nd test.

    Great battle .

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    this is perfect time to compare both of them..
    both are elegant energetic and young.

  18. #98
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    Nice comparison thread.

    Makko is their future captain too.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Markram has got out quite a few times in the 80ís and 90ís recently. He could have potentially gotten three additional hundreds. Still a quality player that will only improve.

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    Pak wasting Babar's talent by batting him at 5/6. Need to slot him in at 3 to let his career take off

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    I think Babar has shut up a few critics who put him down as a minnow basher/FTB. His dominance of Steyn has been one of the very few positives this series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Viper View Post
    Markram has got out quite a few times in the 80’s and 90’s recently. He could have potentially gotten three additional hundreds. Still a quality player that will only improve.
    Similar to Babar in that regard. Babar has got 2 scores of 90s (90* vs NZ in NZ, 99 vs AUS in UAE) and has been dismissed 6 times in the 60-80 range.

    To truly dominate the game, both batsmen need to better their conversion rate (Babar more so).

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    This is a good comparison and it will go on in next few years.

    Both have shown glimpses of their ability and once they become complete batsmen, they will be eyeing for that no.1 spot in ICC ranking of best current batsmen at that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    This is a good comparison and it will go on in next few years.

    Both have shown glimpses of their ability and once they become complete batsmen, they will be eyeing for that no.1 spot in ICC ranking of best current batsmen at that time.
    Babar is already there I think. With his performances in SA, he has answered many critics. Scores under pressure, imposing himself against bowlers. Markram is more pleasing to the eye and will be the mainstay but Babar is clearly ahead at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhony View Post
    Babar is already there I think. With his performances in SA, he has answered many critics. Scores under pressure, imposing himself against bowlers. Markram is more pleasing to the eye and will be the mainstay but Babar is clearly ahead at this point.
    Although this is purely subjective, I reckon Babar's stroke play has not just been more gorgeous (especially those flurry of boundaries in the first test) but also more commanding. The manner in which he dispatched that Rabada short-ball straight back to mid-on boundary today, was a nothing short of dismissive. Last time I remember a young Pakistani batsmen do that to a really quick fast bowler was when Umar Akmal blazed a short-ball from Nathan Coulter-Nile in the 2014 t20 World Cup, iirc. The shot was especially good since Rabada has had his number in the series, yet Babar didn't back down from the contest. Very refreshing to see!
    Last edited by OmarKhan99; 12th January 2019 at 22:27.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OmarKhan99 View Post
    Although this is purely subjective, I reckon Babar's stroke play has not just been more gorgeous (especially those flurry of boundaries in the first test) but also more commanding. The manner in which he dispatched that Rabada short-ball straight back to mid-on boundary today, was a nothing short of dismissive. Last time I remember a young Pakistani batsmen do that to a really quick fast bowler was when Umar Akmal blazed a short-ball from Nathan Coulter-Nile in the 2014 t20 World Cup, iirc. The shot was especially good since Rabada has had his number in the series, yet Babar didn't back down from the contest. Very refreshing to see!
    Babar is truly in discussion now among the world's best bats after the SA series and he dominated Steyn like no other in recent times. Markram is not there yet and there are all the ingredients for him to be there in a couple of years. As far as aesthetics go, I think Markram has better technique and hence is more pleasing to the eye.


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