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    "I would love to work with Mohammad Abbas to improve his skills" : Mohammad Asif

    Mohammad Asif tells Saj Sadiq why bowlers should study Mohammad Abbas and how the in-form seamer can force his way into Pakistan’s ODI side, plus looks at the travails of Australia and Mohammad Amir...



    Mohammad Abbas celebrates one of his 10 wickets in the second Test against Australia


    All the talk before the two-Test series between Pakistan and Australia in the UAE had been of spin being the deciding factor with all eyes on Yasir Shah and Nathan Lyon.

    However, when the series ended in an emphatic Pakistan victory in Abu Dhabi, Pakistan seamer Mohammad Abbas was named Player of the Series with 17 wickets to his name.

    Not only did he shock the Australian batsmen with his medium-pace artistry, lethal accuracy, nagging length and swing bowling, he also confounded his critics who considered him nothing more than a player who could only succeed in bowler-friendly conditions.

    One man who understands the value of Abbas' style of bowling is Pakistan's Mohammad Asif, who was delighted when Abbas mentioned him as a role model.



    Mohammad Asif (pictured) says improving his outswing will get Abbas into Pakistan's ODI side


    "I was a little taken aback but felt honoured when Abbas mentioned me as an influence on his bowling when he could have easily mentioned the likes of the legendary Wasim Akram," said Asif.

    "What I am really pleased with, though, is the fact that Abbas has been taking my advice ever since the days he played alongside me in first-class cricket for Khan Research Laboratories.

    "I am happy that he continues to be a hard-working bowler and is also making good use of what he learnt from me and taken on board the advice I gave him."

    Some might consider it hype but what Abbas has achieve since his Test debut against the Windies is phenomenal. That said, Asif feels Abbas will need to improve on certain aspects of his bowling.



    Abbas has risen from 14th to third in the ICC Test bowling rankings


    "There is no doubt that Abbas did well in the UAE where he bowled wicket-to-wicket and did not give time to the batsmen to adjust. This was probably the reason they could not play him that well

    "However, at the moment, he is relying mainly on inswing and he will need to also add outswing into his arsenal as I did not see much evidence of that in the Test series against Australia.

    "But he is a good learner and is always asking me for advice on improvements to his bowling and I will be speaking to him again soon about what else he can do to become an even better bowler.

    "This is important because if you aren't a quick learner then you can find yourself out of the national side very quickly if you don't have the ability to adjust to different conditions."

    With the 2019 World Cup in England less than a year away, the possibility of seeing Abbas in Pakistan ODI colours is a real possibility, but Asif reckons he will need specialist help and put in extra work before that happens.

    "Right now he has had a few good series but what I would really like him to do is to repeat similar performances against New Zealand and South Africa and inclusion in Pakistan's ODI team would also be a good idea.

    "He cannot rest on his laurels and he needs to constantly work on increasing his skill levels to remain at the top.

    "If he does wish to be considered for all three formats of the game, then his fitness levels need to be top notch. I would love to work with him to improve his skills and especially on improving his outswing."

    For Pakistan, the days of Shoaib Akhtar hurtling down 150kmph thunderbolts are long gone, with very few bowlers able to come near the express pace he possessed. Asif, though, says the intelligence behind each delivery is what sets class bowlers apart.

    "There haven't been too many express fast bowlers like Shoaib who have been quick, skilful and intelligent. He knew how to scare the batsman and how to use the new and old balls to good effect, but he was also very clever and that is something that I feel is lacking with some modern-day bowlers.

    "We now have some bowlers who are just satisfied at seeing the batsmen ducking and satisfied and the wicketkeeper taking the ball at head height. I suggest they watch Abbas and learn from the line and length he bowls.

    "Fast bowling isn't just about running in and bowling as quick as you can, it's about subtle changes, it's about those slight adjustments that make all the difference. It's like a game of chess and out-thinking your opponent, working out their next move and being one step ahead of the batsman.

    "I am not saying that speed does matter entirely because when your speed is low, the ball will not swing that effectively and the batsman can manage the bowler with ease.

    "However, if you look at the case of Abbas against Australia, you will see that he didn't bowl very quick but what he did well was to know his strengths and bowl within those limitations to get maximum benefit.



    Abbas has taken 59 wickets in 10 Tests at an average of 15.64


    "I gave Abbas a piece of advice in the past which was simply this: 'You do not have to bowl fast enough to get the ball flying to the wicket-keeper. Your main objective is to get the ball directed at the three stumps. How well you do it is based upon pitching the ball consistently in the right areas and that is what you need to work hard at'.

    "When I used to bowl in international cricket, I was never quick through the air, but the ball would gather speed after it hit the pitch and that is what the batsmen had difficulty coping with. That is what Abbas' strength is."

    Australia were without Steve Smith and David Warner and while they rew the first Test, their capitulation in the second was surprising for Asif, who expected better from the visitors.

    "I am shocked by the quality of the Australian side. It seems that this side was miles away from the quality of players that used to play for Australia such as the likes of the Waugh brothers, Matthew Hayden, Glenn McGrath, Shane Warne, Jason Gillespie and Brett Lee.

    "They had batsmen like Damien Martyn, who would caress good balls to the boundary with such finesse that the bowler would be left wondering about what the problem was with the delivery in the first place.

    "What Australia seemed to have chosen for the series was similar to a bunch of school-kids who thought they were on a fun trip and not a Test tour."



    Usman Khawaja scored a hundred for Australia in Dubai before sustaining a knee injury in Abu Dhabi


    The Mohammad Amir enigma, meanwhile, is one that is puzzling many observers. He has fallen from the status of leader of the pack to a player who now finds himself playing domestic cricket to try and regain a place in the international side.

    The 26-year-old seems to be a shadow of his former self and, to Asif, the blame lies not just with the bowler but also with the advice he is getting.

    "I have noted some slight changes in Amir's bowling action in recent times which is why he is not getting that swing that he used to get before.

    "I would love to speak to Amir to let him know what he needs to work upon but the highly-paid coaches that the Pakistan side employs should be the ones advising Amir on these issues not me.

    "It's the job of the bowling coach of the team to work with Amir and say: 'Look, we have some free time now, let's try and improve your bowling' but that is not happening.



    Mohammad Amir has been dropped by Pakistan


    "What is clear to me about Amir is that he needs to work harder so that he either becomes an express fast bowler or can get the swing back into his bowling.

    "What I have seen from him in recent times is a bowler who was trying to bowl to stay safe and not to attack the batsman. This puts pressure on the back-up bowlers and that cannot be good for the team.

    "There is no doubt that he bowled really well in the Champions Trophy final where he got a lot of swing which he has not been able to repeat. This is a point to ponder for Amir and for him to ask himself why he is unable to get that swing in his bowling. He will need to do that before it's too late.

    "I want him to be the attacking bowler he once was and not the defensive bowler he has been turned into."

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    Asif's a cricketing genius. What an analysis on both amir and abbas. Abbas definitely needs to work on outswing

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    You can hear why Asif was a fast bowling great.

    Guy simply played with the batsman on even the flattest of wickets. He would use bouncers or outswing to confuse the bats.


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    The Mohammad Amir analysis is interesting, because he feels that Amir has become too defensive in his approach and mindset, instead of attacking the batsmen. There is no doubt that Amir is a better bowler when he is attacking rather than defending.



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    Great interview.

    Made a good point about Amir being stuck in no man's land with his current approach.


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    Every interviewer Asif has discussed bowling with has ended up being shocked over how much genius is inside that head. The guy can easily become a way better bowling coach than the W's

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    Nice interview. His insights in the art of fast bowling is amazing. Any questions on his own career? Like Amir he too could have been given a chance.

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    Asif has no coaching future in Pakistan, other international teams will avoid him as well, but he can make decent money from various T20 leagues around the globe.

    He will never play for Pakistan again and has no value as a player for T20 cricket. The quicker he transitions into coaching the better. He will earn 10x more than what he is earning now in domestic cricket.

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    Good comments. He would make a good bowling coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Asif has no coaching future in Pakistan, other international teams will avoid him as well, but he can make decent money from various T20 leagues around the globe.

    He will never play for Pakistan again and has no value as a player for T20 cricket. The quicker he transitions into coaching the better. He will earn 10x more than what he is earning now in domestic cricket.
    He is going to operate via the Panama Lewis route

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    If Azhar M had the same approach am sure Aamir would’ve been back to his best..

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    Asif would make a great coach no doubt. But it's not going to happen I'm sure.

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    When I used to bowl in international cricket, I was never quick through the air, but the ball would gather speed after it hit the pitch and that is what the batsmen had difficulty coping with. That is what Abbas' strength is.
    This has always been the most interesting aspect of these 2. In Asif's case it was especially prominent. They aren't very quick through the air but after pitching the ball takes off.

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    No doubt he's a cricketing genius, just hoping Abbas doesn't have his moral code.

    Being an attacking bowler is a mindset, if Amir doesn't have it then no amount of coaching on his action, etc will help him. He needs help changing his mindset first.

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    Great comments by a great bowler. And he's right about M Amir. His real weapon was swing which isn't the case anymore as he doesn't get it.

    I hope in the mean time M Amir realizes and work harder and analyze what went wrong.

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    Some good insights there.

    He should surely look to become a bowling coach. May be try with Afghanistan as a beginning.

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    Asif needs to be bowling coach ASAP...


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    This guy knows what he is talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahdi View Post
    Asif would make a great coach no doubt. But it's not going to happen I'm sure.
    Nor should it. I still don't like his sense of tone I get from some of his answers


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    He oozes knowledge about bowling, and some great analysis points by Asif about both Abbas and Amir. He definitely knows stuff, but his shady past is not going to let him get a lucrative bowling coach deal with international teams though. What he talks about definitely sounds a lot more interesting than what some armchair experts here on PP bicker about.

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    "We now have some bowlers who are just satisfied at seeing the batsmen ducking and satisfied and the wicketkeeper taking the ball at head height. I suggest they watch Abbas and learn from the line and length he bowls.

    "Fast bowling isn't just about running in and bowling as quick as you can, it's about subtle changes, it's about those slight adjustments that make all the difference. It's like a game of chess and out-thinking your opponent, working out their next move and being one step ahead of the batsman.
    He didn't name him, but it's pretty clear who he is referring to here.



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    What a genius ... I really hope Asif gets a chance to work with Abbas on the outswinger as that's the next step for him but what would be ideal is Asif making a comeback to the test team to share the new ball with Abbas.

    Both have games that are built for the long run so age will not be a concern for either.

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    Oh Asif, why did you ruin your cricketing life, why oh why?

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    Magic bowler Asif. I feel Amir could bowl more wicket to wicket in his first few overs.

    If Abbas gets it to move away from the right handers then he might yet still go up another notch - what a performer he is.

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    When I asked him about Amir. There was a laugh and he said he didn't want to speak about it, as it would offend the Pakistan coaching staff and he didn't want to offend them. But when pushed, he was quite open about Amir and where his problems lie.

    My favourite part though was about the bowlers getting excited at seeing the ball flying to the keeper at head height and what a waste of time it was.



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    One thing that always come to mind when I compare Amir pre-ban and post-ban is his bowling intelligence. Pre-ban, Amir always appeared to be a thinking bowler trying to exploit a batsman's weakness. Originally, I always assumed that was just inheritently part of his natural bowling talent. But seeing him bowl these last few years, it almost always seems aimless. I now begin to suspect Asif had a large part to play on Amir's original success.

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    At the moment apart from Abbas, the rest don't have a thinking brain on how to bowl or to set up a batsman.

    Without a doubt, Abbas has become Pakistan's current best test bowler, he has taken the mantle from Yasir.

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    Unfortunately, Pakistan can not benefit from this cleaver and analytical bowler. He can really help Abbas and Amir. He denied Pakistan a supper bowling pair of Asif and real Amir for 2010-2018. Abbas needs to work on his outswinger and may be get few short pitched balls out there around 135k/mi speed to put the batsman on back foot.

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    Move on from Asif. We have many others that Abbas can learn from. Big at those who thought Amir was a future great as well.


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    I did not read the interview but I don't think there is any coaching needed for Abbas. He only needs coaching in the mental aspects of the game as to how to keep the intensity going and how not to fall off like the others before him did. Asif surely is not the person to teach him that. Don't need to coach someone who is already doing all the basics right.

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    Bowling genius. Wish he never got into fixing.

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    There is only so much a “back of a length” ball can do.. amir is like Ishant Sharma now... looks good but no wickets.. heck even sharma has been in the wickets lately.. lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    Bowling genius. Wish he never got into fixing.
    Believe it or not, he didn’t get into fixing.

    I know a lot about this - remember for years I’ve been saying that Kaneria was Guilty.

    Read the ICC Tribunal Report.

    Salman Butt and Mohammad Amir fixed for money for months.

    Mohammad Asif didn’t. He was only sucked in at the very end: the News of the World sting wanted to catch the three famous players - the star bowlers and the new skipper. And the newspaper told his manager - who was already Amir and Butt’s established fixer - that there was no deal without Asif.

    Asif refused the fix and according to the ICC Tribunal he never accepted payment. He just bowled one no-ball as a stupidly misguided favour at the request of his increasingly desperate manager.

    Asif’s other earlier transgressions were almost identical to Shane Warne’s. And his final offence was actual LESS than Warne taking $7500 from “John the Bookie”.

    Mohammad Asif lost his career for a far smaller offence than Mohammad Amir’s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    Believe it or not, he didn’t get into fixing.

    I know a lot about this - remember for years I’ve been saying that Kaneria was Guilty.

    Read the ICC Tribunal Report.

    Salman Butt and Mohammad Amir fixed for money for months.

    Mohammad Asif didn’t. He was only sucked in at the very end: the News of the World sting wanted to catch the three famous players - the star bowlers and the new skipper. And the newspaper told his manager - who was already Amir and Butt’s established fixer - that there was no deal without Asif.

    Asif refused the fix and according to the ICC Tribunal he never accepted payment. He just bowled one no-ball as a stupidly misguided favour at the request of his increasingly desperate manager.

    Asif’s other earlier transgressions were almost identical to Shane Warne’s. And his final offence was actual LESS than Warne taking $7500 from “John the Bookie”.

    Mohammad Asif lost his career for a far smaller offence than Mohammad Amir’s.
    Wow.

    I was not aware of this. So Asif's rotting and Amir's back!

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    Azhar Mehmood should be replaced by Mohammad Asif as soon as possible. Azhar Mehmood himself was an average bowler, what he can develop in other bowlers???

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    Watched after match interview of M Abbas. Abbas told Rameez that once he told his KRL first class coach that because of his big fingers his finger tips while gripping the ball touches the ball fully. To which the coach replied this apparently only happened with M Asif. Interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    Believe it or not, he didn’t get into fixing.

    I know a lot about this - remember for years I’ve been saying that Kaneria was Guilty.

    Read the ICC Tribunal Report.

    Salman Butt and Mohammad Amir fixed for money for months.

    Mohammad Asif didn’t. He was only sucked in at the very end: the News of the World sting wanted to catch the three famous players - the star bowlers and the new skipper. And the newspaper told his manager - who was already Amir and Butt’s established fixer - that there was no deal without Asif.

    Asif refused the fix and according to the ICC Tribunal he never accepted payment. He just bowled one no-ball as a stupidly misguided favour at the request of his increasingly desperate manager.

    Asif’s other earlier transgressions were almost identical to Shane Warne’s. And his final offence was actual LESS than Warne taking $7500 from “John the Bookie”.

    Mohammad Asif lost his career for a far smaller offence than Mohammad Amir’s.
    Interesting.

    Watched many of Asif's interviews and I always thought that how can such a person betray his country. Yes he had disciplinary issues, drugs etc but selling one's country is a completely different thing.
    Even today, you can clearly sense some insecurity/bitterness/defensiveness in most of Amir and Butt's interviews but Asif never showed such things. It is a pity that such a talented bowler got sucked into this and ended up commiting a stupid mistake.

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    When Asif speaks, you listen. When Asid bowls, you watch.

    The guy is an institution all by himself. He can still serve pakistan immensely if he can instill that knowledge in the younger guys.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    Believe it or not, he didn’t get into fixing.

    I know a lot about this - remember for years I’ve been saying that Kaneria was Guilty.

    Read the ICC Tribunal Report.

    Salman Butt and Mohammad Amir fixed for money for months.

    Mohammad Asif didn’t. He was only sucked in at the very end: the News of the World sting wanted to catch the three famous players - the star bowlers and the new skipper. And the newspaper told his manager - who was already Amir and Butt’s established fixer - that there was no deal without Asif.

    Asif refused the fix and according to the ICC Tribunal he never accepted payment. He just bowled one no-ball as a stupidly misguided favour at the request of his increasingly desperate manager.

    Asif’s other earlier transgressions were almost identical to Shane Warne’s. And his final offence was actual LESS than Warne taking $7500 from “John the Bookie”.

    Mohammad Asif lost his career for a far smaller offence than Mohammad Amir’s.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Wow.

    I was not aware of this. So Asif's rotting and Amir's back!
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenstorm View Post
    Interesting.

    Watched many of Asif's interviews and I always thought that how can such a person betray his country. Yes he had disciplinary issues, drugs etc but selling one's country is a completely different thing.
    Even today, you can clearly sense some insecurity/bitterness/defensiveness in most of Amir and Butt's interviews but Asif never showed such things. It is a pity that such a talented bowler got sucked into this and ended up commiting a stupid mistake.
    The problem for Asif has always been this.

    Amir and Butt has been fixing since the earlier West Indies tour and had marked money notes from the newspaper in their possession.

    Asif had not been involved in any of the fixing, and it was the newspaper which insisted that his manager get him involved or there was no deal. And he refused to get involved. Finally he agreed to bowl one no ball for free for his desperate manager (who was also the fixer).

    So Asif was never one of the fixer’s team of fixers, and was never paid.

    But the ICC still had to find him Guilty, because technically he was - he bowled a No Ball on cue at the request of a fixer.

    And there was a minimum 5 year sentence - which is what the ICC gave him (plus 2 suspended years so that if he reoffended in the period September 2015 to September 2017 he could be excluded again).

    Amir got the same 5 years and only avoided the 2 year suspended sentence because he claimed to be only 18. Which you could argue tells you all you need to know about his honesty.

    Amir and Butt has marked notes in their possession and SMS messages proving their fixing not just at Lords but earlier too, at The Oval and in the West Indies.

    No such evidence was ever found with Asif because he was never part of that fixing ring.

    Ultimately he lost his career for being an utter fool.

    But Asif has not been selected now for 3 years and 2 months that he has been eligible to play international cricket. And that is largely because the PCB contains people who think that he did what Amir and Butt did.

    When actually he did not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    The problem for Asif has always been this.

    Amir and Butt has been fixing since the earlier West Indies tour and had marked money notes from the newspaper in their possession.

    Asif had not been involved in any of the fixing, and it was the newspaper which insisted that his manager get him involved or there was no deal. And he refused to get involved. Finally he agreed to bowl one no ball for free for his desperate manager (who was also the fixer).

    So Asif was never one of the fixer’s team of fixers, and was never paid.

    But the ICC still had to find him Guilty, because technically he was - he bowled a No Ball on cue at the request of a fixer.

    And there was a minimum 5 year sentence - which is what the ICC gave him (plus 2 suspended years so that if he reoffended in the period September 2015 to September 2017 he could be excluded again).

    Amir got the same 5 years and only avoided the 2 year suspended sentence because he claimed to be only 18. Which you could argue tells you all you need to know about his honesty.

    Amir and Butt has marked notes in their possession and SMS messages proving their fixing not just at Lords but earlier too, at The Oval and in the West Indies.

    No such evidence was ever found with Asif because he was never part of that fixing ring.

    Ultimately he lost his career for being an utter fool.

    But Asif has not been selected now for 3 years and 2 months that he has been eligible to play international cricket. And that is largely because the PCB contains people who think that he did what Amir and Butt did.

    When actually he did not.
    The PCB is off the opinion that Asif and Butt fixed games prior to the England 2010 tour as well and that it is better to just keep them at bay from Pakistan Cricket.

    I was watching Asif's recent bowling videos in domestic cricket, you could clearly tell he was operating at 118-123 km/hr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    The PCB is off the opinion that Asif and Butt fixed games prior to the England 2010 tour as well and that it is better to just keep them at bay from Pakistan Cricket.

    I was watching Asif's recent bowling videos in domestic cricket, you could clearly tell he was operating at 118-123 km/hr.
    I think the PCB is wrong.

    This is the “Asif the Criminal Genius” theory.

    Which is that a hardened criminal had got rid of his marked News of the World banknotes and had never left a trail of incriminating SMS messages in four months that Amir and Butt had taken no such precautions.

    Personally I see no such criminal genius. I see a good cricketer who had made previous silly choices - the same drugs as Shoaib Akhtar and hitting Shoaib Akhtar.

    And because the newspaper wanted to entrap him to sell newspapers - not that he knew that - he ended up making the terrible decision to bowl a free no ball to get his manager off his back.

    Amir has been back for over 2 years in spite of the far greater proof (banknotes, SMS messages) of his guilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    Believe it or not, he didn’t get into fixing.

    I know a lot about this - remember for years I’ve been saying that Kaneria was Guilty.

    Read the ICC Tribunal Report.

    Salman Butt and Mohammad Amir fixed for money for months.

    Mohammad Asif didn’t. He was only sucked in at the very end: the News of the World sting wanted to catch the three famous players - the star bowlers and the new skipper. And the newspaper told his manager - who was already Amir and Butt’s established fixer - that there was no deal without Asif.

    Asif refused the fix and according to the ICC Tribunal he never accepted payment. He just bowled one no-ball as a stupidly misguided favour at the request of his increasingly desperate manager.

    Asif’s other earlier transgressions were almost identical to Shane Warne’s. And his final offence was actual LESS than Warne taking $7500 from “John the Bookie”.

    Mohammad Asif lost his career for a far smaller offence than Mohammad Amir’s.
    Ah this innocence card....do you believe these things really? If Asif was falsely accused by NOTW why didnt he sue the news agency for false accusations? If my employer accuse me of a crime I didnt committ, I would surely take a legal route and demand compensation. The fact that Asif quietly accepted his fate is a testimony that he knew he is a crook.

    Sorry to say Junaids but sometimes its very easy to fool few general public. Hence a mad person like Donald Trump is a president today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canford Cliffs View Post
    Ah this innocence card....do you believe these things really? If Asif was falsely accused by NOTW why didnt he sue the news agency for false accusations? If my employer accuse me of a crime I didnt committ, I would surely take a legal route and demand compensation. The fact that Asif quietly accepted his fate is a testimony that he knew he is a crook.

    Sorry to say Junaids but sometimes its very easy to fool few general public. Hence a mad person like Donald Trump is a president today.
    Because he wasn’t falsely accused - he actually did bowl one no ball bang on cue.

    The only mitigating factor is that the ICC found that the absence of marked NOTW notes, or recent cash deposits, or recent purchases, combined with the lack of phone and SMS traffic confirmed Asif’s assertion that he was not paid for the no ball.

    But at the time of the ICC Tribunal he was still denying any role at all - he pleaded Not Guilty, when the reality was that he was guilty but far less guilty than Amir or Butt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    Because he wasn’t falsely accused - he actually did bowl one no ball bang on cue.

    The only mitigating factor is that the ICC found that the absence of marked NOTW notes, or recent cash deposits, or recent purchases, combined with the lack of phone and SMS traffic confirmed Asif’s assertion that he was not paid for the no ball.

    But at the time of the ICC Tribunal he was still denying any role at all - he pleaded Not Guilty, when the reality was that he was guilty but far less guilty than Amir or Butt.
    I very much appreciate your contributions on this issue @Junaids, it is an endless uphill struggle, made all the more difficult, I suspect, because it became necessary for everyone to accept the story of Amir's youthful innocence, a young man corrupted by his conniving seniors. Asif was essentially thrown under the bus for his age.

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    Simon Doull on commentary saying that he thinks Abbas is better than Asif.

    I don't agree with him but Abbas has the potential to get even better than what he is at the moment.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Simon Doull on commentary saying that he thinks Abbas is better than Asif.

    I don't agree with him but Abbas has the potential to get even better than what he is at the moment.
    Lets in South Africa- his strength is the inward movement into Right handers and away from the left but if the Saffers nullify that will he adapt with bowling outswing.

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    Have heard that inzi was saying he is being considered for One days.

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    I’ve heard a lot about this Abbas guy. Look forward to seeing him in the test matches. Not many matches left for the WC... let’s get him into ODIs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Simon Doull on commentary saying that he thinks Abbas is better than Asif.

    I don't agree with him but Abbas has the potential to get even better than what he is at the moment.
    Well heard that as well. Simon has no clue. He was talking about Asif as if he was some average bowler.

    The PAK COMMIE silent as usual when the moment demands a fitting reply

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    Asif should start taking coaching qualifications. He can be a brillliant bowling coach.

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    Mohammad Abbas team SNGPL's match with Mohammad Asif's team WAPDA finished today, with SNGPL winning by 76 runs. WAPDA fielded first

    Mohammad Asif:
    1st innings 26-11-65-4 including the big wickets of Asad Shafiq and Misbah-ul-Haq
    2nd innings 8-5-16-0


    Mohammad Abbas:
    1st innings 15.5-6-42-6
    2nd innings 30.2-9-52-6

    Fair to say Abbas had the better game, wonder if Abbas and Asif spoke with each other afterwards.

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    why this is amongst STICKY threads.


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