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    Quote Originally Posted by CricVet View Post
    What is your big goal? As far as ODIs are concerned, a purist would term it Pajama cricket as well. You jave always been good in tests AT HOME only and somewhat successful in ASIA. Even at home, your overall test record against Pak is not great.

    India has achieved zilch overseas. Your small steps are not even baby steps against top test teams like AU, Eng, SA at their home. Heck, even against NZ, you have not achieved anything worth mentioning at their home. After all the financial success of India in the past couple of decades, I would hide in shame before describing those small steps. Pak achievement in tests barring in Eng are not good but we don't go boasting success as Indians.
    That is the actual reality of a team that we are suppose to envy in tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakPremi View Post
    In a nutshell every international match on every format against every format matters. Otherwise NO point holding them. T2O or something similar is the future of Cricket so fans need to respect it as that maybe the only cricket they will get to watch.
    Yeah but according to some fans here IPL > International Bilaterals, Asia Cup, CT, Nidahas Trophy etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkrai View Post
    Also didn't India lose to WI, the team that Pakistan smashed home and away?

    This jealousy and hatred posts are getting annoying and pathetic. Talk about something else for once instead of trying to prove how Pakistan doesn't deserve victories or the right to enjoy those victories.

    Repeating the same rubbish 24/7 wont change anything, you will only be seen as desperate individuals trying your best to degrade Pakistan's success.

    Even the most die-hard fans will tell you our batting is questionable, but these pathetic attempts to degrade anything that this team does is just ridiculous and annoying.
    Bhaijaan you lost two test matches to windies and 1 ODI. India havent lost a test match to Windies in 16 years


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    Quote Originally Posted by PakPremi View Post
    In a nutshell every international match on every format against every format matters. Otherwise NO point holding them. T2O or something similar is the future of Cricket so fans need to respect it as that maybe the only cricket they will get to watch.
    Right on. You are the most sane Indian poster here that I respect the most. I go overboard sometimes bashing Indian trolls but you my friend are truthful.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    When was the last time India won a world tournament?
    India Won CT in 2013

    When last time Pakistan Won a World Cup
    Or easy one... When last time pak drew a test in Australia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Bhaijaan you lost two test matches to windies and 1 ODI. India havent lost a test match to Windies in 16 years
    So India lost one one day to West Indies and should have lost the tied match as well. That too in India.West Indies also gave them tough time in the earlier matches as well but only the series result matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Let me make it simple. Just because Pakistan is number 1 in T20 ranking, some of our fans are not taking it seriously. Both countries have fans like these who are quick to downplay rankings and other achievements like CT win or Test No. 1 ranking.
    this is the truth

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    Quote Originally Posted by CricVet View Post
    What is your big goal? As far as ODIs are concerned, a purist would term it Pajama cricket as well. You jave always been good in tests AT HOME only and somewhat successful in ASIA. Even at home, your overall test record against Pak is not great.

    India has achieved zilch overseas. Your small steps are not even baby steps against top test teams like AU, Eng, SA at their home. Heck, even against NZ, you have not achieved anything worth mentioning at their home. After all the financial success of India in the past couple of decades, I would hide in shame before describing those small steps. Pak achievement in tests barring in Eng are not good but we don't go boasting success as Indians.
    We humiliated SA in their home with 5-1 margin in ODI and 2-1 in t-20. Defeted NZ with 3-1 in 2-0 in T-20 in our 2nd last tour. We lost 2-1 to eng but if it's 5 series I bet india would win that series and won T-20 series. So please watch some cricket or else don't comment. Again we also humiliate world best team twice in a week in their home ground like galli mohuala team you know what happens in Asia Cup. Our big goal is to defeat team in test in their home ground bcz we humilited every team in our own turf. And please don't ask about test we are not whitewashed by a minnow SL in our home ground.

    Our main aim is test win and we are not quite there. we are competing much better outside asia now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peshwa View Post
    India Won CT in 2013

    When last time Pakistan Won a World Cup
    Or easy one... When last time pak drew a test in Australia
    Draw for a champion team is a failure. Pak were maligned for same even though we are not even claimed to be a good test team. When was the last time India won a series in England but England do not matter of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakPremi View Post
    So India lost one one day to West Indies and should have lost the tied match as well. That too in India.West Indies also gave them tough time in the earlier matches as well but only the series result matters.
    Should have lost? What does that even mean? You lost to India twice and BD in the UAE recently. That too in the UAE at home. What makes you think this current Windies team is easy for Pakistan to beat on similar pitches to the ones India played them on?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    I didn't know India had won 8 straight series or Pakistan had won 11 until today
    Yeah i was surprised by that. I know India's ODI record and test record since i follow those but i guess i can never accept T20 as a legitimate format no matter what lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PakPremi View Post
    Draw for a champion team is a failure. Pak were maligned for same even though we are not even claimed to be a good test team. When was the last time India won a series in England but England do not matter of course.
    In 2007 we won the test series and when is your last time you won a series in Eng.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Yeah i was surprised by that. I know India's ODI record and test record since i follow those but i guess i can never accept T20 as a legitimate format no matter what lol.
    Lot of posters in this thread who claim that they dont care about T20Is but keep on posting in this thread.

    3 pages so far.

    Newsflash for them:

    Pakistan are doing really well in T20Is - I know its very hard to accept that word India is not being mentioned as the 'best' but that's what it is. Suggest you all accept it and move on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Lot of posters in this thread who claim that they dont care about T20Is but keep on posting in this thread.

    3 pages so far.

    Newsflash for them:

    Pakistan are doing really well in T20Is - I know its very hard to accept that word India is not being mentioned as the 'best' but that's what it is. Suggest you all accept it and move on.
    This thread goes to 3rd page really suprised me . I guess most are also suprised that India is undefeated in last 8 T-20 series and we have no clue about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Lot of posters in this thread who claim that they dont care about T20Is but keep on posting in this thread.

    3 pages so far.

    Newsflash for them:

    Pakistan are doing really well in T20Is - I know its very hard to accept that word India is not being mentioned as the 'best' but that's what it is. Suggest you all accept it and move on.
    I'm glad that Pakistan is doing well in this format and i've mentioned this as well. This thread is about India's recent T20 form and that's why I'm talking about India. If Pakistanis want to celebrate Pakistan's No.1 ranking i have no problem with that and i say it's well deserved. Congrats! Btw Miggy bhai, i was only talking about myself! You can check my posting history. I don't post much on India's T20 match threads or even on IPL threads


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    Quote Originally Posted by Peshwa View Post
    India Won CT in 2013

    When last time Pakistan Won a World Cup
    Or easy one... When last time pak drew a test in Australia
    So you mentioned CT for India but asked me about WC for Pakistan


    For the record we won a major world tournament in 2017 which was only last year.


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    It's quite hilarious that most Indian posters here are trying to show that they don't give a damn about T20s and that it's the worst format, but those same people brag about IPL as the next best thing after sliced bread. They just can't seem to digest Pakistan's success in this format, hence trying to belittle the format and it's popularity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freak_virat View Post
    It will be still useless for us , we Indian never prefer T-20 accept IPL . More of us are interested in test series.
    More interested in tests? Last time I checked about 5 people turned up to the test series in India. Not forgetting this is the most cricket crazed nation in the world.

    While any t20 is rammed till the door don’t close

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    There's no fuss because you haven't won 8 consecutive series let alone 11. You're undefeated in 8 not consecutively won 8, you tied Australia 1-1 around 4-5 series ago. 11 consecutive series wins is a huge achievement regardless of format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WengerOut View Post
    I guess 2011 was my dream then
    surely,it was 2007 wwhen india won world t20,11 years ago,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    So you mentioned CT for India but asked me about WC for Pakistan


    For the record we won a major world tournament in 2017 which was only last year.
    Wehn was the last time india won more than one test match in england.hahahhahahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by freak_virat View Post
    This thread goes to 3rd page really suprised me . I guess most are also suprised that India is undefeated in last 8 T-20 series and we have no clue about that.
    It shows its pakpassion.com not indianpassion.com so obviously we care about our team more than any other team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    Wehn was the last time india won more than one test match in england.hahahhahahahaha
    When last time Pakistan won a test series in England

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    Our fans are something else . Some of us on here were telling us India test ranking is irrelevant and India are not the number 1 team in the world. But when Pakistan are top the rankings are relevant and Pakistan is the number 1 team in the world in T20s.

    Our fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peshwa View Post
    When last time Pakistan won a test series in England
    When was the last time india drew a series in England

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    So you mentioned CT for India but asked me about WC for Pakistan


    For the record we won a major world tournament in 2017 which was only last year.
    Ya thats your only big achievement after 92 world cup.. No wonder you still celebrating

    I answered your question and then i asked you a different question... Two different event.. Not related to each other

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    When was the last time india drew a series in England
    India won series in 2007
    And since when drawing series become more important than winning
    Dont worry i will not drag performance in Australia 😂😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peshwa View Post
    India won series in 2007
    And since when drawing series become more important than winning
    Dont worry i will not drag performance in Australia ����
    What is the win loss ratio of India in england .check over all win loss ratio overseas to satisfy your Ego.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peshwa View Post
    India won series in 2007
    And since when drawing series become more important than winning
    Dont worry i will not drag performance in Australia ����
    Check over all record..youhave won 5 out of 44 there and we have won 4 out of 35.Empty chest thumping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peshwa View Post
    India won series in 2007
    And since when drawing series become more important than winning
    Dont worry i will not drag performance in Australia ����
    Yo have 0.17 wnd we have 0.16 win loss ratio there,this time you can do better by defeating half strength Aus team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Our fans are something else . Some of us on here were telling us India test ranking is irrelevant and India are not the number 1 team in the world. But when Pakistan are top the rankings are relevant and Pakistan is the number 1 team in the world in T20s.

    Our fans.
    We also have some fans who claim the opposite of that, so it all balances out in the end


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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    Check over all record..youhave won 5 out of 44 there and we have won 4 out of 35.Empty chest thumping.
    Same case with england. We both won 3 series in england.So why this chest thumping of a good side in eng.Hope you get your answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    What is the win loss ratio of India in england .check over all win loss ratio overseas to satisfy your Ego.
    You got whitewashed from last 5 tour in AUS. we won series in Eng in 2007 both one day and test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakPremi View Post
    In a nutshell every international match on every format against every format matters. Otherwise NO point holding them. T2O or something similar is the future of Cricket so fans need to respect it as that maybe the only cricket they will get to watch.
    Joking right? Agree all international matches are great but there there is a huge difference in becoming the best team in test cricket compared to T20s. There is a reason test status is given to chosen ones by ICC but all teams can play T20s. You can fluke a lot of T20 performances but you need all skills to win a 5 day game. The difference between two formats is huge.

    Not downplaying Pak's T20I rankings but test cricket is the real deal. Most teams dont even field their best XI for T20 games but you will find best of bests compete in test matches.

    Test rankings >>> ODI rankings>>T20

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    Quote Originally Posted by freak_virat View Post
    You got whitewashed from last 5 tour in AUS. we won series in Eng in 2007 both one day and test.
    Lolz and you have not been badly defeated in ENg.Just chek out your ovrseas record before chest thumping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freak_virat View Post
    Same case with england. We both won 3 series in england.So why this chest thumping of a good side in eng.Hope you get your answer.
    We have been better than the teams trying to say they are world beater and does not care about Asia cup but when it comes to rating then things comes out different.It was not us it was you people showing like you have been winning everything which is really not the case though not saying you are not a better team but the level has not been reached which has been claimed here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freak_virat View Post
    I am not getting why there is so much bragging about this 11-0 streak , India is undefeated in last 8 series and we are not making any fuss about it.
    I really feel the op freaky virat is extremely confused. We pak fans aren't bragging about anything, this is a forum diedicated to the Pakistan cricket team and we are discussing the recent performance of our team. It's not freaky virats place to tell us that we are bragging.

    It's really important for us to ask freaky virat, what is he happy about his Indian team's performance.
    Asia Cup victories?
    Recent matches in England?
    World Cup 2011 victory?
    Recent test match home record?
    Undefeated in 8 t20 series?
    Your corrupt IPL league?

    Just like you have a right to be happy about ur team, so do we. Its not ur place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Bhaijaan you lost two test matches to windies and 1 ODI. India havent lost a test match to Windies in 16 years
    Thread was about T20Is so i was talking about T20I not tests and ODIs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subhan999 View Post
    I really feel the op freaky virat is extremely confused. We pak fans aren't bragging about anything, this is a forum diedicated to the Pakistan cricket team and we are discussing the recent performance of our team. It's not freaky virats place to tell us that we are bragging.

    It's really important for us to ask freaky virat, what is he happy about his Indian team's performance.
    Asia Cup victories?
    Recent matches in England?
    World Cup 2011 victory?
    Recent test match home record?
    Undefeated in 8 t20 series?
    Your corrupt IPL league?

    Just like you have a right to be happy about ur team, so do we. Its not ur place.
    freak_virat not freaky virat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Let me make it simple. Just because Pakistan is number 1 in T20 ranking, some of our fans are not taking it seriously. Both countries have fans like these who are quick to downplay rankings and other achievements like CT win or Test No. 1 ranking.
    So true. And there is no point in arguing with some of these ppl, it's like banging your head against a wall.
    Last edited by Darkrai; 4th November 2018 at 03:32.


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    T-20 is another format in which Cricket is played. I am not sure why people disapprove the importance of it.
    Is it because Pakistan team is very good at it? They are playing very good T-20 cricket; instead of scorning at the format, enjoy the good cricket. Regardless of your national boundaries, a good play in cricket is there for all of us, fans to enjoy. A contest between Shadab Khan and Kane Williamson will be enjoyable if you appreciate the skills of of these players and game they play. If we bring our nationality in every silly way, we will deprive ourselves of some good fun.

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    The upcoming T-20 series with West Indies would be interesting. WI are a powerhouse in this format, they have a good chance to win the series.

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    Shame on India

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    Quote Originally Posted by freelance_cricketer View Post
    Every nation needs something to enjoy to cheer for. Why does India celebrate an Olympic bronze medal madly and reward it with more money than a gold medalist would in a developed nation? Because India is a nation deprived of international level champions. Value of a solitary bronze medal for India is way more than value of 100 gold medals that China and USA win with ease.

    Now you’d be able to understand why the T20 record is so cherished by the Pakistanis. It is nation that regardless of its rank endlessly strives for glory. A nation 8th in the world might keep its expectations realistic from the next World Cup and never hope for a cup but Pakistan is a nation which wants the cup even if the team is ranked freaking 15th in the world and Bhaijaan salutes this nation for such relentless support and belief.

    Pakistan cannot deal with being a low ranked cricket nation for long. When they see their T20 team doing exceptionally well in one format they get totally behind them because it feeds their ego, desires, needs, the reason to invest time and money in cricket etc etc.
    Its unfortunate to see posters like you who dont have any research or facts to back anything they say but, good thing is its a rare thing on this forum. Point of view aside, atleast back your statements with some logical facts.

    Firstly Pakistan is ranked 5th in ODIs, 7th in Tests and 1 in T20's. I dont know here you got that 8th rank, secondly Pakistan also won the last ICC tournament just over a year ago.

    Recently drew the test series in England which is a dream of some teams with inferiority complex who are still far behind in ODI and Test format on head to head. Also a team who is yet to produce a fast bowler to finish his career with avg below 25 in any format while Pakistan has produced batsmen with avg above 50 in tests.

    Talking abt celebrating wins, you do realize you are on a Pakistani forum and everything related to cricket is talked abt here especially when its about Pakistan.

    I guess posts like these are just to cover the inferiority complex you have been hiding for some time and it feeds your ego to undermine the cricketing nation has beaten you more times in tests and ODIs you can ever imagine (Including the last series played at your home) and has achieved the highest ever ranking points in the history of T20 rankings.

    I understand your pain man, get well soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Its unfortunate to see posters like you who dont have any research or facts to back anything they say but, good thing is its a rare thing on this forum. Point of view aside, atleast back your statements with some logical facts.

    Firstly Pakistan is ranked 5th in ODIs, 7th in Tests and 1 in T20's. I dont know here you got that 8th rank, secondly Pakistan also won the last ICC tournament just over a year ago.

    Recently drew the test series in England which is a dream of some teams with inferiority complex who are still far behind in ODI and Test format on head to head. Also a team who is yet to produce a fast bowler to finish his career with avg below 25 in any format while Pakistan has produced batsmen with avg above 50 in tests.

    Talking abt celebrating wins, you do realize you are on a Pakistani forum and everything related to cricket is talked abt here especially when its about Pakistan.

    I guess posts like these are just to cover the inferiority complex you have been hiding for some time and it feeds your ego to undermine the cricketing nation has beaten you more times in tests and ODIs you can ever imagine (Including the last series played at your home) and has achieved the highest ever ranking points in the history of T20 rankings.

    I understand your pain man, get well soon.
    Umm ok which team . I guess you are talking about a team which has 11-0 record with us in WC or that team whose w/l ratio is 1-6 in t20 or that team whom we humiliated in their own backyard two times in week. Everyone knows who has a inferirty complex

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    Quote Originally Posted by freak_virat View Post
    Umm ok which team . I guess you are talking about a team which has 11-0 record with us in WC or that team whose w/l ratio is 1-6 in t20 or that team whom we humiliated in their own backyard two times in week. Everyone knows who has a inferirty complex
    TEam who has won more tests matches than India when head to head and more OD as well.last time they defeated India on 18th june 2017 in CT final.What else you want to listen.Yes you have won 11 WC matches including Uselesss t20 as per you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freak_virat View Post
    Umm ok which team . I guess you are talking about a team which has 11-0 record with us in WC or that team whose w/l ratio is 1-6 in t20 or that team whom we humiliated in their own backyard two times in week. Everyone knows who has a inferirty complex
    Other than 3 matches, all ODI world cup matches were group matches which is nothing to rave abt.

    T20s suddenly became relevant? Comeon man what are you trying to prove here, nothing is gonna the fact that Pak has won 11 ODI series vs India's 5, 73 matches vs India's 56 and 12 tests vs India's 9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Other than 3 matches, all ODI world cup matches were group matches which is nothing to rave abt.

    T20s suddenly became relevant? Comeon man what are you trying to prove here, nothing is gonna the fact that Pak has won 11 ODI series vs India's 5, 73 matches vs India's 56 and 12 tests vs India's 9.
    And nothing gonna change that India wins when matter that is WC . It's the worst record ever that in the most prestigious event of the crciket you didn't won a single match against us. I will never exchange these bilateral record because 11-0 always be greater for me. I am happy for your bi-lateral and it always be like that in future because we don't play much crciket now . we have 11-6 in ODIs and 6-1 in useless T20 w/l ratio agaisnt you in last decade.

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    Winning T20s so consistently is no easy thing.
    India and Indian fans can be happy about whatever makes them happy. Most of the Pakistani fans are happy about the T20 success but at the same time are still concerned about our poor shows in ODIs and to some extent in Tests.

    Its not like that the Pakistan fans think that we are world beaters in all formats. We know our place in world cricket (thanks to rankings).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    Check over all record..youhave won 5 out of 44 there and we have won 4 out of 35.Empty chest thumping.
    Wow that is some difference
    I know India is crap in england but look at the Irony here
    You chest thumping your 4 victories in 35 matches...Wow man Pakistan is brilliant in england... 4 victories in jus 35 matches and last series win way back in 90s...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    What is the win loss ratio of India in england .check over all win loss ratio overseas to satisfy your Ego.
    I will tell you the best way to satisfy your ego
    If you so proudly dragging performance in England here why don't you check Pakistan number in Australia... Or only test matches in England only matters

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    Lolz and you have not been badly defeated in ENg.Just chek out your ovrseas record before chest thumping.
    My dear friend Come out of England
    We all know Pakistan is decent performer in England... And india crap (though we won series there in 2007 not back jn 90s)
    There is a life beyond it
    Every post England England England

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    TEam who has won more tests matches than India when head to head and more OD as well.last time they defeated India on 18th june 2017 in CT final.What else you want to listen.Yes you have won 11 WC matches including Uselesss t20 as per you.
    Accept it
    India is lightyears ahead of Pakistan in terms of achievement in last 2 decades
    The H2H record which you are chest thumping for that you should thanks Indian Government who didn't allowed Indian team to play with Pakistan else ths 2-3 test victories difference would have vanished in thin air and same about Odi H2H
    And please get over your CT celebration bro it is getting super cringworthy the way you mentioned it in every damn post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peshwa View Post
    Accept it
    India is lightyears ahead of Pakistan in terms of achievement in last 2 decades
    The H2H record which you are chest thumping for that you should thanks Indian Government who didn't allowed Indian team to play with Pakistan else ths 2-3 test victories difference would have vanished in thin air and same about Odi H2H
    And please get over your CT celebration bro it is getting super cringworthy the way you mentioned it in every damn post
    Accept it that pakistan has won more matches when played head to head against india except the so called meaningless t20i.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peshwa View Post
    My dear friend Come out of England
    We all know Pakistan is decent performer in England... And india crap (though we won series there in 2007 not back jn 90s)
    There is a life beyond it
    Every post England England England
    Why should i come out of the things where you are not comfortable..keep your dictation with yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peshwa View Post
    Wow that is some difference
    I know India is crap in england but look at the Irony here
    You chest thumping your 4 victories in 35 matches...Wow man Pakistan is brilliant in england... 4 victories in jus 35 matches and last series win way back in 90s...
    I think you are new here.yu will know people ehre talk with facts and figures ,it is not a random group where you can say wht you want.best luck next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freak_virat View Post
    And nothing gonna change that India wins when matter that is WC . It's the worst record ever that in the most prestigious event of the crciket you didn't won a single match against us. I will never exchange these bilateral record because 11-0 always be greater for me. I am happy for your bi-lateral and it always be like that in future because we don't play much crciket now . we have 11-6 in ODIs and 6-1 in useless T20 w/l ratio agaisnt you in last decade.
    So be happy as e are happy with T20i why it makes you uncomfortable..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    We also have some fans who claim the opposite of that, so it all balances out in the end
    Fair point but the ones who are biased and bitter stand out.

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    Most of the teams only care about WT20 and players care about franchise cricket mostly IPL

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    Nobody cares about bilateral T20s. They are complete waste of time. T20 leagues and WC are the relevant games, all money goes into that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    It hurt because it was the final of a world tournament. I can pull up posts of Indian fans till 2017, when CT was a world tournament for you lot.
    And I can pull up posts till 2016 when CT was a nothing tournament to Pakistanis.


    Havign said that, rdiculous thread. To each his own.

    I would rather we used T20Is to try out young players for the 50 over games.

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    This thread just makes me remember the story “The fox and the sour grapes”.

    T20s were supposed to be meaningless and now threads are being made how India is doing good as well by saying “undefeated in 8 series”. Lol, two of them were drawn series, so basically India has won 6, they need to double that to outperform Pak.

    But I thought T20s didnt matter, and now some people are trying to prove here India is also good. Wasnt it all so called “meaningless”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidilicious View Post
    And I can pull up posts till 2016 when CT was a nothing tournament to Pakistanis.


    Havign said that, rdiculous thread. To each his own.

    I would rather we used T20Is to try out young players for the 50 over games.

    Facts: Pakistan has tried, Fakhar Zaman, Mohammad Nawaz, Rumman Raees, Shadab Khan, Asif Ali, Usman Shinwari, Shaheen Shah, Sahibzada Farhan, Hussain Talat, Etc.

    Maybe have tried more players than others and still achieved the no 1 rank in those couple of years. That shows the bench strength.

    No teams plays 11 debutants in T20s. Pak has tried more youngsters than some of the other teams in these two years. T20s are international matches, and just like any other match an aim of the team is to win it.
    Last edited by Titan24; 4th November 2018 at 15:47.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Yes but like some other posters, you are just posting your emotions not facts. Pakistan has tried, Fakhar Zaman, Mohammad Nawaz, Rumman Raees, Shadab Khan, Usman Shinwari, Shaheen Shah, Sahibzada Farhan, Hussain Talat, Etc.

    Maybe have tried more players than others and still achieved the no 1 rank in those couple of years. That shows the bench strength.

    No teams plays 11 debutants in T20s. Pak has tried more youngsters than some of the other teams in these two years. T20s are international matches, and just like any other match an aim of the team is to win it.
    Good on you. I do not follow Pakistan cricket in as much detail so dont know.

    As I said, to each his own. Thread like these should not be created.

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    Because Pakistan has the longest streak so far. So that's why
    it has grabbed cricketers and experts attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Facts: Pakistan has tried, Fakhar Zaman, Mohammad Nawaz, Rumman Raees, Shadab Khan, Asif Ali, Usman Shinwari, Shaheen Shah, Sahibzada Farhan, Hussain Talat, Etc.

    Maybe have tried more players than others and still achieved the no 1 rank in those couple of years. That shows the bench strength.

    No teams plays 11 debutants in T20s. Pak has tried more youngsters than some of the other teams in these two years. T20s are international matches, and just like any other match an aim of the team is to win it.
    That's exactly the point. No other team (top ones in odi and test) has invested so much in t20 int. They are more focussed on the t20 leagues when it comes to this format. More in the lines of cash grabbing opportunity.

    Hence, whatever the team does in t20, doesn't matter. If they are in top, that's an added bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakPremi View Post
    IS that why there was amassive outcry when the team with champion mindset was outclassed in two formats that matter in England ?
    In England historically, Pakistan have generally been the better side whether it be in tests or in ICC events where since 99 they have reached semis in every tournament (except 2013).

    But everywhere else outside England, we're so much inferior to them and thus the gulf between the the sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    This thread just makes me remember the story “The fox and the sour grapes”.

    T20s were supposed to be meaningless and now threads are being made how India is doing good as well by saying “undefeated in 8 series”. Lol, two of them were drawn series, so basically India has won 6, they need to double that to outperform Pak.

    But I thought T20s didnt matter, and now some people are trying to prove here India is also good. Wasnt it all so called “meaningless”.
    The thread is about why India doesn't give respect to t20 undefeated streak.

    We don't care because it is still meaningless for us at the end of the day.

    Indians haven't change the stance and this very thread is the proof of that.

    Whatever you are arguing here is logicless because this thread itself is about Indian fans not doing of what you are claiming that Indian fans do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Our fans are something else . Some of us on here were telling us India test ranking is irrelevant and India are not the number 1 team in the world. But when Pakistan are top the rankings are relevant and Pakistan is the number 1 team in the world in T20s.

    Our fans.
    Sums up the hype brigade perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARK Rafay View Post
    Because Pakistan has the longest streak so far. So that's why
    it has grabbed cricketers and experts attention.
    Only Pakistani experts. Pakistan's streak is not being spoken about anywhere outside of Pakistan.

    This thread is ridiculous, but lets keep things in perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspin View Post
    In England historically, Pakistan have generally been the better side whether it be in tests or in ICC events where since 99 they have reached semis in every tournament (except 2013).

    But everywhere else outside England, we're so much inferior to them and thus the gulf between the the sides.
    How many series have India won in New Zealand South Africa and Australia lately?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakPremi View Post
    How many series have India won in New Zealand South Africa and Australia lately?
    Pakistan got whitewashed everywhere in those places. India managed to at least pick up draws from each of those places. It might not seem much of a difference but when it comes to ranking points it does!

    To be no.1 you have to be the most dominant at home and most competitive away in this era. If you want to be a great side like the WI (before the 90s) and Aus of 2000s then you need to dominate home and away?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakPremi View Post
    How many series have India won in New Zealand South Africa and Australia lately?
    Last test series of Ind in those countries

    NZ - lost 1-0 in 2 test series
    Aus - lost 2-0 in 4 test series
    SA - lost 2-1 in 3 test series


    Pakistan corresponding results are

    2-0 in 2 test series
    3-0 in 3 test series
    3-0 in 3 test series

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    Quote Originally Posted by WengerOut View Post
    Last test series of Ind in those countries u

    NZ - lost 1-0 in 2 test series
    Aus - lost 2-0 in 4 test series
    SA - lost 2-1 in 3 test series


    Pakistan corresponding results are

    2-0 in 2 test series
    3-0 in 3 test series
    3-0 in 3 test series
    Doesn't matter. A series lost is a series lost whether Whitewash or not. *Logic*

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    Awkward moment for Indians when their board just named a full strength squad for the T20 against Windies.... But but but we don't take T20s seriously

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Maybe you were sleeping during the last four series which were against Aus(bilateral and tri-series) and NZ(bilateral x2). Get your facts right before trying to be an expert.
    My point was most of our T20I wins have been against very poor opposition yet we get carried away from such wins and what's scary is some of us on here actually believe we're the best T20I side in the world when our batting line up is very mediocre consisting of mostly accumulators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    Wehn was the last time india won more than one test match in england.hahahhahahahaha
    When was the last time Pakistan DID NOT lose in Australia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidilicious View Post
    And I can pull up posts till 2016 when CT was a nothing tournament to Pakistanis.


    Havign said that, rdiculous thread. To each his own.

    I would rather we used T20Is to try out young players for the 50 over games.
    We can keep mud-slinging, but it wouldn't hurt to recognize what your fellow countrymen says there is rubbish. All ICC tournaments are world tournaments at the end of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Awkward moment for Indians when their board just named a full strength squad for the T20 against Windies.... But but but we don't take T20s seriously
    Kohli, Bhuvi, Chahal etc dropped due to non performance. Full strength team indeed

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    England last 9 T20 series

    2015-2016 South Africa v. England 19/02/2016 South Africa 2-0
    2016 England v. Sri Lanka 05/07/2016 England 1-0
    2016 England v. Pakistan 07/09/2016 Pakistan 1-0
    2016-2017 India v. England 26/01/2017 India 2-1
    2017 England v. South Africa 21/06/2017 England 2-1
    2017 England v. West Indies 16/09/2017 West Indies 1-0
    2018 England v. Australia 27/06/2018 England 1-0
    2018 England v. India 03/07/2018 India 2-1
    2018-2019 Sri Lanka v. England 27/10/2018 England 1-0


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