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    NZ should target 270 odd here. Need to conserve wickets and rotate strike.


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    Ross is one of the most under rated batsman in world cricket - even I didn't know he had 19 hundreds in 205 games and a stats of 46/83

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    People were calling for Shaheen to work on his variations during the T20 series - well here's a slower ball and he's got the dangerman out.
    People saying that must have never seen him bowl. He even has reverse swing in his weaponary at this age which some experience bowlers of some others team still dont have

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    Shaheen Shah is much better bowler than Junaid. He should go to SA along with Amir, Abbas, Hassan and Mir for Tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    NZ is weaken a lot without Guptill. Williamson should be desperate. If he/Taylor gets out cheaply, Pakistan will win easily.
    Taylor is playing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    NZ is weaken a lot without Guptill. Williamson should be desperate. If he/Taylor gets out cheaply, Pakistan will win easily.
    Taylor is at the crease with him right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    NZ is weaken a lot without Guptill. Williamson should be desperate. If he/Taylor gets out cheaply, Pakistan will win easily.

    Taylor is playing, while Guptill would have struggled on these wickets

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Ross is one of the most under rated batsman in world cricket - even I didn't know he had 19 hundreds in 205 games and a stats of 46/83
    He's a legend. NZ's best bat of all time. Pak. need to get him out soon.

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    Quite a contrasting bowling combination, on a wicket I couldn't figure out yet. At Abu Dhabi, you play 2, if not 3 spinners; Kiwis have gone with 4 pacers, while PAK has struck 2 blows in PP with new ball!!! I think, Shantner probably would have come in XI, had he been fit, but still Kiwis are looking at an early strike with new ball, won't be surprised if they start like a Test match field.

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    The problem with SONY LIV is that the tab shows the current score while the stream is behind by 5 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Still H2H is in favor of PAK at 53/47, that's after 11-0 run, which actually tells what happened between 1975 to 2000.
    From 2004 , NZ have dominated 23-7.


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    Lol! Sarfaraz saying no confuses williamson. Now thats something never heard of

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Quite a contrasting bowling combination, on a wicket I couldn't figure out yet. At Abu Dhabi, you play 2, if not 3 spinners; Kiwis have gone with 4 pacers, while PAK has struck 2 blows in PP with new ball!!! I think, Shantner probably would have come in XI, had he been fit, but still Kiwis are looking at an early strike with new ball, won't be surprised if they start like a Test match field.
    Imam could be exposed today

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    Taylor is playing
    Quote Originally Posted by angrypathan View Post
    Taylor is at the crease with him right now
    Typing error my bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    He's a legend. NZ's best bat of all time. Pak. need to get him out soon.
    Kiwi legend definitely, but I'll take Martin Crowe for the bold line; over all Williamson is slightly better as well (his stats are 47/83 - but doesn't hit brutally, hence no one cares about how good a batsman KW is).

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    Lmao is Doul clueless ? Sarfraz is saying ooo to his fielders to run fast anc create run out not Noo.. Bazid is also clueless


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Sarfraz going 5-5 here. Usually it's 4-4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Imam could be exposed today
    Could justify his position as well, if Kiwis fail to post 240+

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    People were calling for Shaheen to work on his variations during the T20 series - well here's a slower ball and he's got the dangerman out.
    He deceived Rohit with a stunning slower ball during the Asia Cup but the fielder (Imam??) grassed the simple chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Kiwi legend definitely, but I'll take Martin Crowe for the bold line; over all Williamson is slightly better as well (his stats are 47/83 - but doesn't hit brutally, hence no one cares about how good a batsman KW is).
    Williamson is technically better but he lacks power game. Taylor has quite a few memorable innings in ODIs and has very high impact when he is in touch. For a neutral, Taylor will have a better legacy.

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    KW is like Smith who also lacks power game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Chopra View Post
    The problem with SONY LIV is that the tab shows the current score while the stream is behind by 5 minutes.
    Yes they are 1 2 Balls ahead ..... I am also obseving this..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    From 2004 , NZ have dominated 23-7.
    I doubt, if PAK has a better H2H in 2010s against any team that existed before 2010 in ODI circuits, bar ZIM & may be SRL (for that 5-0).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    Williamson is technically better but he lacks power game. Taylor has quite a few memorable innings in ODIs and has very high impact when he is in touch. For a neutral, Taylor will have a better legacy.
    Naa. Williamson will 100% surpass him. His numbers will be too much to argue against.

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    141 kph Good pace to start with by hassan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Chopra View Post
    KW is like Smith who also lacks power game.
    Same for Root. Although Root is much better than them in ODIs.

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    so as usual Junaid khan is back to his own

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    Finally, hasan seems to have found the UAE length. Much better start than in any asia cup match.


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    Good over from hassan, looks like he might be amongst wickets if he carries on this way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    Williamson is technically better but he lacks power game. Taylor has quite a few memorable innings in ODIs and has very high impact when he is in touch. For a neutral, Taylor will have a better legacy.
    Williamson has the best technique & touch among fav 4 - he does things his own silky way. Last T20, he made best 60 of the series at 160 SR on this slow wicket, and I didn't notice that before looking at SR. In last ODI series at UAE, he played one of the best innings here in series decider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Chopra View Post
    KW is like Smith who also lacks power game.
    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    Same for Root. Although Root is much better than them in ODIs.
    They don't lack power game. It's just, they're not the world's best when it comes to hitting. Same for Kohli tbh.

    It's very rare you'll see a player who is among the best in all facets. Only ABD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Naa. Williamson will 100% surpass him. His numbers will be too much to argue against.
    I was speaking of present. If Williamson can play for another 7 years he will be undisputed best batsman for NZ in every format. I should have been accurate with my tense.

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    Looks like NZ will struggle against spin.

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    Imad has finally developed skills for bowling with older bowl, slight variation of pace with little bit of spin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Imad has finally developed skills for bowling with older bowl, slight variation of pace with little bit of spin
    The job he is doing, can't that be done by Haris or Saud?

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    Hassan needs not to experiment much, wicekts will come. In Asia cup he was trying too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    They don't lack power game. It's just, they're not the world's best when it comes to hitting. Same for Kohli tbh.

    It's very rare you'll see a player who is among the best in all facets. Only ABD.
    ABD is perhaps the most naturally talented batsman of all time, he is the biggest freak cricketer I have seen. I consider myself fortunate to see ABD play live.

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    Result of the match as well as the series will totally depend upon whether Pak can maintain the intensity throughout and dont have that let loose 5-10 overs

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    The job he is doing, can't that be done by Haris or Saud?
    can definitely be done by them.

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    You can't bowl on the hips of Taylor.


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    Hassan Ali has been going downhill since that Wagah episode which was embarrassing, to say the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Result of the match as well as the series will totally depend upon whether Pak can maintain the intensity throughout and dont have that let loose 5-10 overs
    Should get a wicket here otherwise Shadab will be attacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Chopra View Post
    Hassan Ali has been going downhill since that Wagah episode which was embarrassing, to say the least.
    Try your luck somewhere else I think he even does not remember that yet. He has to up his game simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    The job he is doing, can't that be done by Haris or Saud?
    Imad has more than 150 first class wickets which gives him that bowler’s mentality who knows how to bowl under pressure. Saud can be a decent 6th option but dont think Saud and Haris can handle themselves well when under pressure. I doubt they would have taken the wickets of ABD and Amla in CT in such a pressure match.

    Plus Imad gives option with a new ball if required.

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    Imad bowling average does not justify his place in the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Should get a wicket here otherwise Shadab will be attacked.

    He has thrived more often than not when attacked barring few matches

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    Imad bowling average does not justify his place in the team.

    But his economy does

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Imad has more than 150 first class wickets which gives him that bowler’s mentality who knows how to bowl under pressure. Saud can be a decent 6th option but dont think Saud and Haris can handle themselves well when under pressure. I doubt they would have taken the wickets of ABD and Amla in CT in such a pressure match.

    Plus Imad gives option with a new ball if required.
    Correction: its 140 wickets Imad has in FC

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    I doubt, if PAK has a better H2H in 2010s against any team that existed before 2010 in ODI circuits, bar ZIM & may be SRL (for that 5-0).
    Yeah i think only SL and Windies bro.


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    Strange innings so far.

    Lots of dots, not many singles but too many boundaries conceded (7 in 14 overs).

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    Hassan once again looks ordinary.

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    Imad is such an average batsman and hardly ever bowls his full quota so why is he in the team?

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    Classy from Williamson

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Williamson has the best technique & touch among fav 4 - he does things his own silky way. Last T20, he made best 60 of the series at 160 SR on this slow wicket, and I didn't notice that before looking at SR. In last ODI series at UAE, he played one of the best innings here in series decider.
    Yes i've always noticed that KW times the ball better than Root, Kohli, Smith etc. Never overhits the ball. Very classy batsman to watch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Imad has more than 150 first class wickets which gives him that bowler’s mentality who knows how to bowl under pressure. Saud can be a decent 6th option but dont think Saud and Haris can handle themselves well when under pressure. I doubt they would have taken the wickets of ABD and Amla in CT in such a pressure match.

    Plus Imad gives option with a new ball if required.
    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    But his economy does
    Also last over, three singles, then goes talks to Sarfraz, gets two dots and over only goes for 4 runs. Haris/Saud would be milked for 6/7 runs. It doesn't sound that big of a difference, but in a grand scheme of things, it is.

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    Hassan is getting that little bit of late movement today just need to maintain a consistent line and length

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    Imad's role in the ODI team?? Answers on a postcard please.

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    This is the time to attack. These two form the backbone of NZ's batting. Letting them milk Imad is what they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Yes i've always noticed that KW times the ball better than Root, Kohli, Smith etc. Never overhits the ball. Very classy batsman to watch.
    He is unfortunate not to get 4-5 Tests series like the other 3, otherwise against most current attack, he would have got multiple 500-600 runs series as well, which is why his average in Test is still below 50. Every top batsmen (averaging over 50) made their numbers from few mega series, which doesn't happen if you play 1-2-3 Tests in every 6 months.

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    Poor bowling

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    Two senior batsmen rebuilding nicely.

    I don't feel we've enough threat during the middle-overs, especially since the loss of Saeed Ajmal. I just don't understand the team management's aversion to playing a specialist spinner in these conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Correction: its 140 wickets Imad has in FC
    Imad is useless unless the asking is 7+, that too with newish ball. Today, he had the perfect platform with 2 down early and the hitter gone, and he is bowling in dry condition without dew - I hope he proves me wrong today.

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    Imad isnt a odi class spinner and technically solid batsmen will always find him easy to play.

    Pakistan should look towards Mohammad Irfan (legspinner).


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    I think Hafeez needs to get some overs in as well might not get wickets but will slow these batman down

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    Williamson out to one of the worst deliveries he's probably ever faced

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    What a ball to get a wicket from

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    Shadab you beauty ball wasn't great but he got a wicket lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    This is the time to attack. These two form the backbone of NZ's batting. Letting them milk Imad is what they want.
    There you go. Bring the legspinner on and attack, and you get a wicket.

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    BIG wicket, very un Williamson like - hit a long hop straight to mid wickets belly!!!!

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    Good to see Malik also offering some input between the wicket, it's often just Hafeez trying to give his 2 cents on everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Two senior batsmen rebuilding nicely.

    I don't feel we've enough threat during the middle-overs, especially since the loss of Saeed Ajmal. I just don't understand the team management's aversion to playing a specialist spinner in these conditions.
    Irfan (legspinner) was the highest wicket taker in the recent QeA Cup and was also one of the highest wicket takers in last year's Departmental Cup. Why isn't he being considered?

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    Latham batted well in the UAE in 2014 so not to be underestimated.

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    The only thing Ramiz knows about Pakistani players is Hafiz is excellent against left handers .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    Irfan (legspinner) was the highest wicket taker in the recent QeA Cup and was also one of the highest wicket takers in last year's Departmental Cup. Why isn't he being considered?
    i think Inzi even does not know that.

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    Damn bad over from Imad, but good wicket Shaddy.

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    Was Taylor having a go at someone there?
    Update: he's saying Hafeez is chucking. My goodness

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    That's not on from Taylor. He comes across as having a bad character.

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    Lol! Taylor crying

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    Taylor what an idiot. These hobbits are getting too uppity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angrypathan View Post
    Was Taylor having a go at someone there?
    Update: he's saying Hafeez is chucking. My goodness
    He's not wrong. Umpires have turned blind eye towards him. I expect him to get reported again.


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