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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    Are you playing dumb on purpose? It's for the officials to officiate, it's for the players to play. Kapish?
    I haven't seen the incident but if a bowler is chucking and is a repeat offender ,you're going to call him out on it and tell the umpire.

    You're literally making excuses for a cheat, using spirit of the game to cover for someone who is proven to be cheating twice already.

    If it were the other way around, you'd be saying the same thing.


    Quote Originally Posted by Convict View Post
    Don't worry bro. Your other thread allows for rain. Maybe it will save you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Yes he has performed against a good team for once. Everything is forgiven now, including the Asia Cup humiliation.
    He's 20yrs old. Made his international debut only last year. It is from performances like this that he will hopefully learn and keep improving.
    All you remember is Asia cup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    What rule has he broken here? There is no written rule that he's broken, he's accused a bowler who has already been suspended twice for chucking.
    he has no right to insinuate anything. He should stay in his lane. Mind his own damn business..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Along with Babar, Imam is the only young player in this team with long-term value.

    He gives a lot of posters tummy ache, but they should make peace with the fact that he is going to have 15 year career for Pakistan.

    Hasan, Shadab etc. will fizzle out in a couple of years.
    Well we do need someone to feast on the minnows... So you might be right here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Great Khan View Post
    he has no right to insinuate anything. He should stay in his lane. Mind his own damn business..
    I repeat, Hafeez has been caught twice.

    Fans on here even accuse him of chucking... if he weren't Pakistani, you'd be cheering the fact someone called out a chucker.


    Quote Originally Posted by Convict View Post
    Don't worry bro. Your other thread allows for rain. Maybe it will save you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Chopra View Post
    Not been the same since dancing in front of the Indian border.
    He hasn't been the same since injury, Border dance has nothing to do with it. He needs some time away

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Along with Babar, Imam is the only young player in this team with long-term value.

    He gives a lot of posters tummy ache, but they should make peace with the fact that he is going to have 15 year career for Pakistan.

    Hasan, Shadab etc. will fizzle out in a couple of years.
    Shadad is a future Pakistani captain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    I haven't seen the incident but if a bowler is chucking and is a repeat offender ,you're going to call him out on it and tell the umpire.

    You're literally making excuses for a cheat, using spirit of the game to cover for someone who is proven to be cheating twice already.

    If it were the other way around, you'd be saying the same thing.
    Sorry man, but you're wrong here.

    He should have let the umpire know and have a chat with them.

    Doing what he did in the middle of the pitch is just low class.

    Cry baby indeed.

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    I thought Shaheen has two overs remaining and you go with this trash bowler of the match.

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    Second six for Sodhi against Hasan


    Aj kal iskay buhat boray din chal rahay hain


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    Quote Originally Posted by the Great Khan View Post
    he has no right to insinuate anything. He should stay in his lane. Mind his own damn business..
    You are right.
    Its like a player giving giving a batsmen out. You simply can't do that and such action would lead to a punishment.

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    The heck is wrong with Hasan Ali.. why is he bowling short ball at this stage of the game that too against tail????????

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    Annoying little partnership this.

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    Very poor stuff by Hasan Ali throughout the match.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Faheem has to come in for Hasan. Looks lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    You are right.
    Its like a player giving giving a batsmen out. You simply can't do that and such action would lead to a punishment.
    Exactly.

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    Damn something is seriously wrong with Hasan

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    Come on Hasan Ali, you're far better than this. I feel like Hasan needs a break too, just like Amir.

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    Shaheen has 3 overs remaining... why isn't ne bowling? Pathetic captaincy. Heck even Junaid is good in the death


    #Hum apko container deingaye dharnay ke liyay

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    Hasan should really consider becoming a hitter like Razzaq who can bowl 5-6 overs in an ODI.

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    Bad captaincy from sarfaraz to give Hasan another over

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    Why does Hasan continue to bowl when Shaheen has 3 overs left? Poor captaincy by Sarfraz.

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    This have to be the last game for Hassan for a long time if not for ever,, Completely useless, getting destroyed by tailender,,

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    Baqwas bowling needs to be dropped... started believing his own hype


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    Hassan showing that he should dropped just like Amir for sometime. Faheem along with the Shaheen was the best pacer in T20s, it was surprising he didn’t play but should definitely come in the next match.

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    Hasan Ali lost us this game!!!!

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    Not sure what the fuss about Hafeez is and why NZ made a big deal out of it, it's not like Hafeez ran through them

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    Hasan Ali undoing good work by spinners here! 250+ will be a tough chase with our batting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Did you predict ABD becoming a player he became when he was avging early-mid 30s after 20 odd tests or Amla who was averaging 20 odd after 16 test matches. Shadab is just 19 and players take time to develop.
    You also have to take into account that they are not Pakistani players who will not develop further and become ATG. History doesn't favor Pakistan in that regard in the last 10 years. Players from SA/Australia/India may start out slow but their system grooms and nurtures them in their development whereas ours regresses them. There is a massive difference.

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    hassan has lost the plot...terrible bowling

    why is shaheen not bowling here?

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    Hasan Ali bowling too short.

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    What the hell happened to Hasan Ali? He is the only Pak pace bowler I liked in last 10 years. I thought he was going to become a Pakistan great. Really sad to see him go downhill

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    Ish Sodhi used to be a capable batsman at U19 level.

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    How the hell does Fahim not play and Hasan plays?


    #Hum apko container deingaye dharnay ke liyay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    I haven't seen the incident but if a bowler is chucking and is a repeat offender ,you're going to call him out on it and tell the umpire.

    You're literally making excuses for a cheat, using spirit of the game to cover for someone who is proven to be cheating twice already.

    If it were the other way around, you'd be saying the same thing.
    No. Watch the incident and then comment. If a team wishes to raise a complaint they raise it with the match referee after the game behind closed doors.

    What Taylor did was completely unacceptable and was designed to be provocative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Second six for Sodhi against Hasan


    Aj kal iskay buhat boray din chal rahay hain
    too much showoff
    after CT he looks more focused on his swag chains and celebration than his bowling


    To hell with circumstances. I create opportunities.
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    This is Sarfraz the great. Hasan Ali has been tonked all evening yet he persists with him because in his mind, Hasan has to be the death bowler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Baqwas bowling needs to be dropped... started believing his own hype
    Captain should have gone with Shaheen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    What the hell happened to Hasan Ali? He is the only Pak bowler I liked in last 10 years. I thought he was going to become a Pakistan great. Really sad to see him go downhill
    Success got to his head. Now he's not any more useful than Joginder Sharma.

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    Hasan Ali needs resting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Along with Babar, Imam is the only young player in this team with long-term value.

    He gives a lot of posters tummy ache, but they should make peace with the fact that he is going to have 15 year career for Pakistan.

    Hasan, Shadab etc. will fizzle out in a couple of years.
    Please explain why you feel this way, I remember you use to praise them two often before??

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    Sarfaraz is clueless in ODIs. He is a great captain in T20s but as soon as it comes to ODIs, his approach becomes too defensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Along with Babar, Imam is the only young player in this team with long-term value.

    He gives a lot of posters tummy ache, but they should make peace with the fact that he is going to have 15 year career for Pakistan.

    Hasan, Shadab etc. will fizzle out in a couple of years.
    While I agree that Imam is a very good prospect, I see absolutely no reason to dismiss Shadab, a legspinner in his early 20's, so easily. I'd say he's shown us enough to suggest that he's here to stay.

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    Both teams are trying their level best to lose the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by JibranAnsari View Post
    Becoming more difficult now , every tom dick and harry can come out with sticks in pakistan and and burn vehicles.
    riots happen everywhere..the country can stage matches easily and terrorism is at 2005-4 levels..the rest is just an excuse

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    It feels like we're all piling on Sarfraz but really, given how expensive Hasan Ali has been why not bowl out Shaheen instead ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taaya View Post
    Shadad is a future Pakistani captain.
    It is probable. It is not beyond the PCB to make a mediocre player - who doesn’t make the team on merit - captain.

    In fact, it is pretty standard for the PCB.

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    This is very poor from Pakistan. 250 up for kiwis

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    Is Shahin carrying injury? I see, max he can bowl is 8 overs, with the last one a single over spell .... while Hasan has opened flood gate !!!!

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    it might not be a pitch for fast bowlers ......


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    Ish Sodhi taking out his Indianness in the match.

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    these superstars taking it too easy,,, what horrible attitude,,, they don't deserve to win, too unprofessional,,,

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    If Pakistan somehow chase whatever the total is today, Pak is taking the series

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    And the best pacer in fact best bolwer of the inning will not complete his quota sarfaraz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Pakistani fast bowling apart from Shaheen has been worrisome for a while (minus Junaid's one-off against BD). We have Imad Wasim bowling in the 45th over
    We're running them into the ground. Hasan has been playing every single match. He should be rested for the next two matches. The UAE is all about the spinners anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Is Shahin carrying injury? I see, max he can bowl is 8 overs, with the last one a single over spell .... while Hasan has opened flood gate !!!!
    I don't think they want to put a lot of pressure on an 18 year old bowler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Is Shahin carrying injury? I see, max he can bowl is 8 overs, with the last one a single over spell .... while Hasan has opened flood gate !!!!
    Sarfaraz thinks Hassan is a better bowler at death, which with his current form he is clearly not

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    Let them off the hook here. 207/7 and now 250/7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    It is probable. It is not beyond the PCB to make a mediocre player - who doesn’t make the team on merit - captain.

    In fact, it is pretty standard for the PCB.
    A 20 year old leg spinner that averages 26 with the ball and 31 with the bat is very mediocre - you are correct as always.

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    Bad pick .... Hasan should sit in few games. Why faheem didn't play

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    At 210 for 7, Sarfraz was using Imad instead of trying to bring his wicket taker Shaheen and finish off the innings.

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    Shaheen takes his fourth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Chopra View Post
    Ish Sodhi taking out his Indianness in the match.
    Just a reminder this is forum will not be easy for you so be careful so far I am noticing you peeking here for some rubbish comments and then run away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Third Man View Post
    While I agree that Imam is a very good prospect, I see absolutely no reason to dismiss Shadab, a legspinner in his early 20's, so easily. I'd say he's shown us enough to suggest that he's here to stay.
    The biggest asset that I look for in a young player is temperament, and that is why I have been very impressed with Imam.

    In spite of having so many people criticizing him for being a nepotistic selection, he has managed to ignore all that noise and score runs.

    The way he played composed knocks under high pressure against Afghanistan and Bangladesh when others were going bananas said a lot about him.

    Honestly speaking, I am not impressed with Shadab and his career trajectory shows a familiar path - a path many Pakistanis cricketers have ended up on.

    His batting has completely diminished and he took the game by storm but has tapered off. This spell seems like an aberration to me.

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    Pitch is fine we should chase this. Haris was a must here against 3 men pace attack.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Sarfarz was horrible in the last 10 overs absolutely clueless.

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    Great stuff from Shaheen, deserved a fifer which he would have got if bowled full quot

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    for what Ross Taylor did, it is just a by product of the AUS/NZ/SAF/ENG losing a few games on the trot and then their true colors coming out. These teams can't take a few losses on the trot, they can only dish out losses but when the tables turn they start sledging and show their true colors of how low they are

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    Shaheen Please stay away from Showbaaz players

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    Quote Originally Posted by zain7077 View Post
    Please explain why you feel this way, I remember you use to praise them two often before??
    Attention hogging. That's all you need to know about someone who changes his opinions more often than his underwear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrtaim3 View Post
    Sarfaraz is clueless in ODIs. He is a great captain in T20s but as soon as it comes to ODIs, his approach becomes too defensive.
    T20's are not that demanding for a captain anyways

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Let them off the hook here. 207/7 and now 250/7
    NZ already reached par score. Pak has to play above average to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    The biggest asset that I look for in a young player is temperament, and that is why I have been very impressed with Imam.

    In spite of having so many people criticizing him for being a nepotistic selection, he has managed to ignore all that noise and score runs.

    The way he played composed knocks under high pressure against Afghanistan and Bangladesh when others were going bananas said a lot about him.

    Honestly speaking, I am not impressed with Shadab and his career trajectory shows a familiar path - a path many Pakistanis cricketers have ended up on.

    His batting has completely diminished and he took the game by storm but has tapered off. This spell seems like an aberration to me.
    Totally agreed with Imam's potential

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taaya View Post
    A 20 year old leg spinner that averages 26 with the ball and 31 with the bat is very mediocre - you are correct as always.
    That batting average is misleading. Even Hasan scored a 50 in New Zealand.

    He is a glorified tail-ender at best. Certainly doesn’t qualify as an all-rounder. We saw his batting in the Asia Cup.

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    Trent Boult has played some good innings in the past

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Chopra View Post
    I don't think they want to put a lot of pressure on an 18 year old bowler.
    Two under 20 blowers have taken 8 of the 9 wickets here and kept PAK somewhat in game still ...... then what is experience for? Enjoying a higher central contract & match fee?

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    Many people won't like this but Shaheen is also a terrible death bowler. His pace is certainly overrated. His average pace is 132-135kph and he bowls a lot of half volleys at the death. Will be thrashed by quality hitters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    The biggest asset that I look for in a young player is temperament, and that is why I have been very impressed with Imam.

    In spite of having so many people criticizing him for being a nepotistic selection, he has managed to ignore all that noise and score runs.

    The way he played composed knocks under high pressure against Afghanistan and Bangladesh when others were going bananas said a lot about him.

    Honestly speaking, I am not impressed with Shadab and his career trajectory shows a familiar path - a path many Pakistanis cricketers have ended up on.

    His batting has completely diminished and he took the game by storm but has tapered off. This spell seems like an aberration to me.
    Weren't you an advocate of Umar Amin and Asad Shafiq in ODIS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Along with Babar, Imam is the only young player in this team with long-term value.

    He gives a lot of posters tummy ache, but they should make peace with the fact that he is going to have 15 year career for Pakistan.

    Hasan, Shadab etc. will fizzle out in a couple of years.
    Agree with top part but Shadab has been nothing but good in all formats, despite still learning his trade. His averages and strike rate will also improve more he plays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zain7077 View Post
    Please explain why you feel this way, I remember you use to praise them two often before??
    Hasan - has ability but success has well and truly gone to his head.

    Shadab - played too many games against minnows upfront which creates false hopes.


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