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    Can Rohit Sharma surpass Virat Kohli to become the #1 ODI batsman?

    He is already breathing on Kohli's neck in ratings (has 871 vs Kohli's 899). One good series can make him surpass Kohli. Can Rohit do it? If so, can he sustain it?

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    He might just do it.

    Last 3-4 years he is second only to Kohli perhaps.

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    Kohli is the greatest ODI batsman of all time while Rohit is the second greatest ODI opener of all time.

    He is definitely in the top 10 ODI batsmen as well. As great as Rohit is, he cannot catch Kohli.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Kohli is the greatest ODI batsman of all time while Rohit is the second greatest ODI opener of all time.

    He is definitely in the top 10 ODI batsmen as well. As great as Rohit is, he cannot catch Kohli.
    Kohli has set some huge mountains to climb so you are right.

    But credit to Sharma, he's turned on another gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Kohli is the greatest ODI batsman of all time while Rohit is the second greatest ODI opener of all time.

    He is definitely in the top 10 ODI batsmen as well. As great as Rohit is, he cannot catch Kohli.
    Pretty much. Kohli averaged 130+ last year while Rohit averaged 70+. Rohit is easily the second best ODI batsman right now, but still behind Kohli.

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    You mean in terms of ranking and being the no. 1 batsmen in the world on current form. I think he definitely can and it's between the duo as who is no. 1 currently.

    If it's about overall career, then No because Rohit's early days weren't all that good and he was too mediocre. Since 2013, he has been phenomenal though.

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    Stats in last 3 years. Kohli has more not outs but other stat are pretty similar.

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    The guy is a beast in Australia!


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    Rohit is not consistent enough! Strangely people criticize or undermine Kohli whenever he fails (someone else outperforms him occasionally!) and sleeps whenever he performs at most times! That is the kind of expectation level & impact Kohli brings in...! Rohit/Dhawan stole the show in Asia cup in Kohli's absense and Pujara in the last test series! But deep down everyone knows that Kohli's consistency levels/match winning abilities are much bigger than the rest (Rohit is often ridiculed for his inconsistency/slow pace at the start of the innings! Dhawan also at times especially in tests! Pujara was terrorized to an extent of dropping from the team! But Kohli never slipped down from the consistent line!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RamLakhan View Post
    Rohit is not consistent enough! Strangely people criticize or undermine Kohli whenever he fails (someone else outperforms him occasionally!) and sleeps whenever he performs at most times! That is the kind of expectation level & impact Kohli brings in...! Rohit/Dhawan stole the show in Asia cup in Kohli's absense and Pujara in the last test series! But deep down everyone knows that Kohli's consistency levels/match winning abilities are much bigger than the rest (Rohit is often ridiculed for his inconsistency/slow pace at the start of the innings! Dhawan also at times especially in tests! Pujara was terrorized to an extent of dropping from the team! But Kohli never slipped down from the consistent line!)
    Rohit may not be as good as Kohli, but anyone who calls someone that averages nearly 60 as an opener inconsistent is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sachin136 View Post
    Rohit may not be as good as Kohli, but anyone who calls someone that averages nearly 60 as an opener inconsistent is wrong.
    Inconsistent when you are comparing with Kohli (that is the level here). If you are talking in general, then I agree, he is more than useful ODI opener for us! And also this consistency has come in the recent years (thankfully!)

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    Rohit and Dhawan are the reason that we are still top 3 ODI side.

    Fact is that without Rohit, we can't win consistently, the same way we can't win without Kohli.


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    The great part with Sharma is his ability to score big and really change gears once set, particularly for the current Indian team which has a terrible middle order.

    If he throws it at 70-80, then its all dusted there but he continues even after that and make up for weak middle order as well.

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    If Rohit is around I will never give up as he can reach higher gear than Kohli.

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    No .

    Kohli is more consistent. Also , since Sharma is playing as opener , there is always a chance he will get a good ball early on.

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    0 chance of Rohit surpassing Kohli.

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    He won't surpass Kohli. Kohli is one in a billion.

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    Nah, there is clear difference in class. Sure, he can get to rank 1 for some time on back of consecutive big scores, but he doesn't have it him to be better than Kohli.


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    If India are to win the WC, Rohit has to perform.

    He's more important than Kohli IMO (consistently scores which is expected, but cannot destroy you like Rohit), when he's in the zone there's little you can do to stop the carnage.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    If Rohit is around I will never give up as he can reach higher gear than Kohli.
    This.

    Kohli is more reliable and consistent, Rohit has the higher ceiling and can score huge. Always in the game with him out there.
    Last edited by Aman; 13th January 2019 at 03:52.


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    Perhaps for a short period but Kohli is too consistent to drop down.

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    Rohit Sharma at one point in time was regarded as a talent which will never deliver till the masterstroke decision to make him open the innings, his career has never looked back since

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    No.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Rohit Sharma at one point in time was regarded as a talent which will never deliver till the masterstroke decision to make him open the innings, his career has never looked back since
    Dhoni backed him during his years of failure and made him an opener. That's probably why Rohit and Kohli back Dhoni irrespective of what everybody thinks. Loyalty pays.

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    Btw i dont know whats the situation with Kohli's back but if his back problems persist then i am sorry but it might be the start of decline for Kohli.

    Back pain or any kind of persistent chronic pain (if its not mild) is worst.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    Btw i dont know whats the situation with Kohli's back but if his back problems persist then i am sorry but it might be the start of decline for Kohli.

    Back pain or any kind of persistent chronic pain is worst.
    He plays an insane amount of cricket and trains like a maniac off the field. No one has a more rigorous training regimen in history than Jansher Khan and even he was finished at the age of 28 in 1993

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    He plays an insane amount of cricket and trains like a maniac off the field. No one has a more rigorous training regimen in history than Jansher Khan and even he was finished at the age of 28 in 1993
    I heard one main reason of AB's retirement is due to back issues aswell.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Rohit is a legend, Kohli is the GOAT

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    For those interested here are the stats of the two since 2017.

    Virat Kohli

    Innings - 41
    NO's - 12
    Runs - 2665
    Ave - 92
    SR - 100
    100's - 12
    50's - 10

    Rohit Sharma

    Innings - 41
    NO's - 8
    Runs - 2456
    Ave - 74
    SR - 100
    100's - 12
    50's - 8

    Virat Kohli Since 2017 at Home

    Innings - 16
    NO's - 2
    Runs - 1081
    Ave - 77
    SR - 102
    100's - 6
    50's - 2

    Rohit Sharma Since 2017 at Home

    Innings - 16
    NO's - 3
    Runs 1076
    Ave - 83
    SR - 111
    100's - 5
    50's - 3

    Virat Kohli Since 2017 Away from Home

    Innings - 25
    NO's - 10
    Runs - 1584
    Ave - 106
    SR - 99
    100's - 6
    50's - 8

    Rohit Sharma Since 2017 Away from Home

    Innings - 25
    NO's - 5
    Runs - 1380
    Ave - 69
    SR - 92
    100's - 7
    50's - 5

    A note to be made with Sharma's away from home stats are that he played lot more games then Kohli in Asia. The Asia Cup tournament for instance Rohit played whereas Kohli did not play that.


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    I think an away from home average of 106 compared to 69 says it all about the Kohli-Rohit comparisons. Yes an average of 69 is amazing away from home, but when you compare to a beastly average of 106 it looks less amazing. Such is the case with Rohit he is a fantastic player but he has been overshadowed by the greatest batsman of this generation (and in my opinion the best LOI Batsman ever) being in the same team as his. So to answer the question, no Rohit will never overtake Kohli as the greatest One Day Batsman. Rohit will end up as a LOI ATG, but Kohli will end his career as the GOAT in LOI at least.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Kohli is the greatest ODI batsman of all time while Rohit is the second greatest ODI opener of all time.

    He is definitely in the top 10 ODI batsmen as well. As great as Rohit is, he cannot catch Kohli.
    If Rohit leads India to WC glory while outshining Kohli in the process, he will surpass anything Kohli has done in LOIs and surpass him.

    That's the only way for him to do it. Short term it's possible for him to overtake Kohli in the rankings.
    Last edited by Aman; 13th January 2019 at 09:39.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    0 chance of Rohit surpassing Kohli.
    Their ICC rankings are quite close. He can surpass Kohli.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    If Rohit leads India to WC glory while outshining Kohli in the process, he will surpass anything Kohli has done in LOIs and surpass him.

    That's the only way for him to do it. Short term it's possible for him to overtake Kohli in the rankings.
    Even if rohit wins the world cup single handedly kohli will remain the better batsman.
    Consistency is more important than performance in world cup.
    Yuvraj isn't an atg even though he was MOS in world cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeeteshssaxena View Post
    Even if rohit wins the world cup single handedly kohli will remain the better batsman.
    Consistency is more important than performance in world cup.
    Yuvraj isn't an atg even though he was MOS in world cup.
    Well, if Rohit wins it and Kohli does little again, yeah he will.


    It's unlikely but it's one way it can happen. Kohli's yet to really deliver in WCs.


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    Hitman has hit 17 ODI centuries in 3 years!

    Same as King Kohli but in 3 less matches!

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    Rohit is no way near kohli .kohli is better

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    I still remember in the second edition of IPL where 26 runs were required of last over against mashrafe and he took him for 26 runs

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    If both kohl’s and Rohit tee off simultaneously it will be absolute carnage and very entertaining to watch. No ugly swipes slogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    He is already breathing on Kohli's neck in ratings (has 871 vs Kohli's 899). One good series can make him surpass Kohli. Can Rohit do it? If so, can he sustain it?
    Surpass Kohli in what? Rankings? Possible. But not in stature.

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    In rankings he can but Kohli is the GOAT in ODI or maybe close to being the GOAT.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Q View Post
    Surpass Kohli in what? Rankings? Possible. But not in stature.
    If Rohit single handily wins India a WC (destroys teams in the KO matches - Semis and Final) while Kohli flops (hurting his image), he will 100% move ahead of him. It's unlikely but that for me would catapult him well ahead of Kohli who has yet to make his mark in the WC.

    WC moments > JAMODI runs on flat wickets.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BaankeJi View Post
    Their ICC rankings are quite close. He can surpass Kohli.
    Not talking about ranking. Talking about as a player.

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    Rankings are close because Kohli missed the Asia Cup and lost points, he'd be threatening Viv's peak rating of 935 had he not skipped that.

    As a player, Kohli is simply a step ahead of all his peers. One low score after 23 innings and people are spouting their usual rubbish again. Jamodis, soft runs, blah blah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    If Rohit single handily wins India a WC (destroys teams in the KO matches - Semis and Final) while Kohli flops (hurting his image), he will 100% move ahead of him. It's unlikely but that for me would catapult him well ahead of Kohli who has yet to make his mark in the WC.

    WC moments > JAMODI runs on flat wickets.
    Nobody can singled handedly win a World Cup for any team . Only team effort will win you world cups.
    Last edited by Mr.Q; 13th January 2019 at 15:47.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Q View Post
    Nobody can singled handedly win a World Cup for any team . Only team effort will win you world cups.
    That's why I said if.

    It's a really small chance but the only way he can make up the gap.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Not talking about ranking. Talking about as a player.
    I was talking about ranking though. Even mentioned rating points in OP.


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