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  1. #1
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    How good really is Saif Badar?

    Don't attack me, I haven't seen much of him except in the PSL a couple times but I have noticed posters on this forum rate him really highly. I am curious as to why?

    His career stats up to now don't really show anything and he's older than Shadab Khan.

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    So why do you guys rate him so highly?

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    In 22 List A innings Shadab has 4 50's compared to Saif's 3 in 21 innings.

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    Stars don't really look good
    Another Asif Ali?

    I have also noticed some posters hyping him here but his stats arent impressive at all

    Or is he rated for his performances at the junior level?

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    Would be mediocre as been said about many but were dissappointment.

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    I mean he has potential, looked solid in the u-19 world cup. Just hasn't done anything notable yet, but he has had a few solid performances this season. Not ready for international level but definitely someone to keep an eye on

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    Just another player that's been hyped up to be the savior of our batting.

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    We shouldn't read too much into Pak domestic stats. In recent months, Saif Badar was seen batting at #7/8.
    He is a #4/5 batsman and if he is batting at #7/8, we can't rely on stats.

    May be this PSL, MS will give him enough chances at #4 and we can see it live.

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    Before this season, he had no performances of note in domestic cricket.

    However, he had a very good QEA Cup this year and finished some tight chases. Not many young batsmen in Pakistan are known for finishing the innings and scoring in those type of situations.



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    He has a little bit of hype around him, but definitely a better prospect than Sahibzada Farhan.


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    Badar has batted well this season. The problem is that he bats at 7 or below in domestics which is unacceptable really. Needs to be given run in top order.

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    I think that's what it is, he is a decent prospect that is being wasted at No.6/7. Needs to be batting in the middle order.

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    Shoaib Malik 2.0 imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    Before this season, he had no performances of note in domestic cricket.

    However, he had a very good QEA Cup this year and finished some tight chases. Not many young batsmen in Pakistan are known for finishing the innings and scoring in those type of situations.

    The stat that actually matters.

    He is just 20 years of age i think and he has everything that Pakistani batting needs right now. His overall stats dont tell you the potential because he has been made to bat at 7 and 8 many times by his seniors and even from that position he scored some match winning innings.

    BUT, previously it was seen that he has tempramental issues which i hope he has worked on now. For Pakistani standards, he is still once in a generation kind of talent.

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    Make him an opener. He is tall, can hit boundaries, and is right-handed. Pakistan could use that type of player.

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    Performed well in the 2016 U-19 WC

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    I can say the lad's got potential and has the ability to finish games and embark on difficult chases (something that is sorely missed in the Pakistan senior).

    That said if I pour over heaps of praise, people would probably see it as a conflict of interest. So I'll just share the above two cents of mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedwaqas92 View Post
    I can say the lad's got potential and has the ability to finish games and embark on difficult chases (something that is sorely missed in the Pakistan senior).

    That said if I pour over heaps of praise, people would probably see it as a conflict of interest. So I'll just share the above two cents of mine.
    He is from Sialkot


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    He is from Sialkot
    I know, I was talking about the 'other' conflict of interest. If you know what I mean.....

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    Just see this innings of his at u19 level. Some real talent on display. Tall, strong, Talented and a powerful hitter at that.

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    He can score against quality attack and talent is certainly there but needs more time to learn how to build an innings..

    Saud Shakeel is ready though!


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    He is a good prospect.
    But ATM he should focus on coming PSL. And show some consistency

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    Nothing special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedwaqas92 View Post
    I know, I was talking about the 'other' conflict of interest. If you know what I mean.....
    Excellent questions in that particular podcast. The guys gives me the impression of a player who is quite determined. Hopefully, he continues to develop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    The stat that actually matters.

    He is just 20 years of age i think and he has everything that Pakistani batting needs right now. His overall stats dont tell you the potential because he has been made to bat at 7 and 8 many times by his seniors and even from that position he scored some match winning innings.

    BUT, previously it was seen that he has tempramental issues which i hope he has worked on now. For Pakistani standards, he is still once in a generation kind of talent.
    Right now, he's not ready for International stage. There is no history of scoring big runs, needs centuries under his belt in the top
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    He is getting better , probably will see him at his best in a couple of seasons.


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    He has done well this season.

    He should play in the top order to fully realize his potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    Right now, he's not ready for International stage. There is no history of scoring big runs, needs centuries under his belt in the top
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    Yes, definitely. He is not ready for international cricket.

    He should perform for a couple of seasons in domestics and he should play some Pakistan A matches as well.

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    He's talanted. But I think there a couple of more players who are ahead of him in terms of his development.

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    Should be playing A team cricket in all 3 formats.

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    21 innings and his highest score is 86 on Pakistani pitches against C grade bowlers and he's supposedly the savior of our batting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chokli View Post
    21 innings and his highest score is 86 on Pakistani pitches against C grade bowlers and he's supposedly the savior of our batting.
    In IPL, Schulman Gill was batting at 6/7 for KKR. We shouldn't really be deceived by his IPL stats.
    Saif Badar may not be as good as par hype but so far we have no relevant set of stats to judge it. I guess we should wait for now.

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    Bats like Shubman Gill.

    Classy batsman.


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    Calm innings under pressure today when his team really needed it.

    Some fine shots and chose the right balls to attack.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Calm innings under pressure today when his team really needed it.

    Some fine shots and chose the right balls to attack.
    Definitely a good innings under pressure but apart from 2 straight sixes off Hammad Azam, there weren't any shots to be impressed from. Hope he's better than this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordEddardStark View Post
    Definitely a good innings under pressure but apart from 2 straight sixes off Hammad Azam, there weren't any shots to be impressed from. Hope he's better than this.
    And those 2 sixes made all the difference in a tight match.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    And those 2 sixes made all the difference in a tight match.
    That's certainly true.

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    It has to be one of the best innings under pressure in Pakistan domestics that I have seen. He came in at 6 and at the other end you had Umar Akmal. You would expect someone of that experience to guide a youngster and try to close the game by himself by playing right till the end. But then again I reminded myself that the batsman is Umar Akmal and that is that. And that came to to true. Like always.

    Lahore needed 66 off 48. What you just had to do was to try to get off strike as much as possible and you will get that one off boundary every over. But we are talking about Umar Akmal here. He tried to hit the bowler out of the ground on all the 4 deliveries he faced. Every ball was a dot. And eventually was caught on the 4th delivery. But an inexperienced guy like Saif played with absolute maturity. He tried to took the game right till the end because you know as a batsman you will get a loose delivery that you can hit out of the ground. Few of them actually. He did exactly that. And when the wickets were falling regularly.

    Tried to rotate strike off every delivery and trying to convert ones into twos on every opportunity. He was disgusted with himself when he played a rare dot ball. Took the game right till the end and attacked Hammad Azam and it was game over.

    Absolutely brilliant from Saif Badar. He is exactly the kind of player that Pakistan need in that middle over and he has to be included in the national team as soon as possible. Even the A games are going to help a lot.

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    Saif Badar is highly rated by Shoaib Malik. This is why i am sad about Inzi not selecting young guys for A tours. We really wasted those A games.


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    He's still 20 so has time to get better with more domestic cricket under his belt.

    Hasn't so far got the stats that would make you sit up and applaud the guy but today's knock in the T20 cup final getting his team over the line will win him some applause.

    I don't judge on T20 cameos and for me he has to nail it in the other 2 formats especially 4 day cricket where his stats aren't there yet. He needs to have a good 2 seasons going forward to maybe get a crack by 2022-23 in the Pakistan team as he'll be 22-23.

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    Classy batsman and he too is not in PSL.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Deewana Mastana View Post
    He's still 20 so has time to get better with more domestic cricket under his belt.

    Hasn't so far got the stats that would make you sit up and applaud the guy but today's knock in the T20 cup final getting his team over the line will win him some applause.

    I don't judge on T20 cameos and for me he has to nail it in the other 2 formats especially 4 day cricket where his stats aren't there yet. He needs to have a good 2 seasons going forward to maybe get a crack by 2022-23 in the Pakistan team as he'll be 22-23.
    So he is 20 years old now and he'll be 22-23 in another 4-5 years?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    So he is 20 years old now and he'll be 22-23 in another 4-5 years?
    Oh yes rather than being specific in the years I should have said 2-3 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    So he is 20 years old now and he'll be 22-23 in another 4-5 years?
    Must have some of those Afridi genes


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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince of Pakistan View Post
    Saif Badar is highly rated by Shoaib Malik. This is why i am sad about Inzi not selecting young guys for A tours. We really wasted those A games.
    Shoaib feels threatened by Saif, which is why he completely mistreated him in PSL3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    Bats like Shubman Gill.

    Classy batsman.
    Really! Must be exciting prospect then.

    Gill also played a decent innings yesterday - 148, on a day 4 Ranji wicket at 96 SR, but against Indian tundlers. By the way, Gill's FC stats is 82/77, List A is 48/86, and T20 is 34/146 - indeed classy, whoever bats like him has to be classy as well.

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    Watched the 2nd innings today and his innings wasn't really going anywhere until that huge over where Hammad Azam got smashed. But fair play to him, he kept his cool under pressure

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Really! Must be exciting prospect then.

    Gill also played a decent innings yesterday - 148, on a day 4 Ranji wicket at 96 SR, but against Indian tundlers. By the way, Gill's FC stats is 82/77, List A is 48/86, and T20 is 34/146 - indeed classy, whoever bats like him has to be classy as well.
    I meant style of batting. I dont know the stats of both and frankly dont care much too as both are young.


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    He may not be a no. 6 player. But he's one classy player. Should've been given opportunity up the order in PSL 3


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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    Shoaib feels threatened by Saif, which is why he completely mistreated him in PSL3.
    True, Malik was selfish there.

    Bas Malik aur Hafeez sai twitter pr fake patriotism and Pakistan Zindabaad k naray lagwa.

    Both should have retired by now if they were 20% patriotic as they show on twitter.


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    Saif is a solid young batsman that should be inserted into Pakistan's middle order setup.

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    Seems decent. Looks good under pressure, don’t see him playing for Pakistan before the WC unfortunately. But he should be in contention for a place after the World Cup.

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    He needs to do more. He needs to perform in FC to be considered for a spot in the national team. But I must say the quality of domestic cricket needs drastic improvement.


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