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    Quote Originally Posted by Chokli View Post
    And only 10 ODI 100s.

    Out of those 83 ODI 50s he should have converted at least 20 of those to centuries.
    Fitness,never emphasised on that.

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    I was watching the cricket earlier without Audio, why was Boult giving Fakhar an earful? Did something happen between them?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Plumb View Post
    If Boult was a pakistani pacer today He would have been labelled as "exposed"
    If we had a pacer of his class we would not have lost 9 out of our last 10 matches against quality teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    Inzi has 83 ODI 50s my word lol
    One of the most under rated player in history - his 122 at Karachi is probably the best innings in a loss, definitely from PAK.

    Imran retired after 1992 WC & some Buzurgs must have feared him regarding new ball, so he went to No. 5, otherwise Imran would have made him the best no. 3 after Viv or leave the game in peace. Most of his ODI 50s ended when he became thirsty and wished to have a little nap in AC dressing room, other wise a set IuH was the most difficult obstacle to remove and he was equally good against pace & spin. Unfortunately bone head ....

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    Babar has batted proactively today. More of it please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    With all due respect to Imam, good player and good guy but i think Babar needs to open regularly in ODIs with Fakhar.
    it is good that more and more getting convinced here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Inzamam would have scored 30+ ODI hundred, had he focused on his fitness and batted at three or even opened.

    For a player of his capabilities, 10 ODI hundreds is nothing. Even Hafeez has surpassed his tally and Babar will surpass it in a couple of years.
    I think the 80 odd 50s he has scored and many of those being crucial match winning knocks still get him over the line as one of the best ever ODI batsmen of his time and even compared to many players now with inflated averages of above 45


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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    One of the most under rated player in history - his 122 at Karachi is probably the best innings in a loss, definitely from PAK.

    Imran retired after 1992 WC & some Buzurgs must have feared him regarding new ball, so he went to No. 5, otherwise Imran would have made him the best no. 3 after Viv or leave the game in peace. Most of his ODI 50s ended when he became thirsty and wished to have a little nap in AC dressing room, other wise a set IuH was the most difficult obstacle to remove and he was equally good against pace & spin. Unfortunately bone head ....
    Well said. I remember him blaming his weight loss for his loss of form. Ended up deliberately gaining weight afterwards

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    Fair to say Fakhar has absolutely owned Boult tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Now, I am not liking Fakhar - mentally he is an aggressive batsman who likes to dominate spinners; making an uncharacteristic hundred might be good for stats (and prove a point), but it won't change his situation much. He should be aggressive and attack Sodhi - if he gets out, so it be but one of the biggest mistake in cricket is to believe that stats would be better if an aggressive batsman curbs his basic instincts.

    Once someone (Roubuck may be), asked Viv if he had gone for a SR of 60 (instead of 75) could his average gone higher? Viv said that, it would have reduced my average because I would have blocked about 2500 balls unnecessarily.

    FZ is good as an aggressor, not steady operator - PAK has at least half a dozen to out perform him in that role.
    He's a weird one.

    He needs time to get going and usually needs someone on the other end to take pressure off of him.

    Azhar did it extremely well in the CT 17 Final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    I think the 80 odd 50s he has scored and many of those being crucial match winning knocks still get him over the line as one of the best ever ODI batsmen of his time and even compared to many players now with inflated averages of above 45
    Barring 2-3, he is indeed better than most top ODI batsmen today. Let the team down big time in World Cups post 1992 though, but he made captaincy a solid chasing unit during his captaincy. Unfortunately, that is the only good thing I can say about his "captaincy" as well as his post retirement accomplishments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    True. Conversion rate is an issue but he batted at 5 mostly
    Partly down to laziness and poor fitness.

    Inzy + a modern fitness regime = a world ATG. Instead he is Pakistan ATG - still a damn good player and a legend but did underachieve a little.

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    Wow boy Boult really being taken to the cleaners here by Fakhar


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nasty Naz View Post
    I'd expect Hafeez and Fakhar to open with Azhar at 3. Allows Pakistan to go with 4 specialist bowlers and have an extra batsmen.
    Hope PAK still wins after that - particularly if Sarfraz loses the toss.

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    I expect Pakistan to win this series and the two after this as well (vs SA and Aus).

    England series will be a challenge. If we can make it 3-2 either way, that should be the goal.

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    Lol. Congrats the streak is over for NZ. They are racing away. 10 wicket win coming up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkrai View Post
    Wasn't he a lower order batsman though?
    No. 220 out of his 350 innings were at 4 spot or higher.

    In Australia - 26.09 average (0 hundreds)
    In England - 34.17 average (0 hundreds)
    In New Zealand - 24.04 average (0 hundreds)
    In South Africa - 31.38 average (1 hundred)

    In a combined 127 innings. One of the most overrated ODI batsmen (incredible Test player though).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Just because I do not see it happening does not mean that I do not want it to get better.
    How will cheap point scoring against fans who want to celebrate on a forum making it better. Go write to the PCB to if you want bring about real tabdeeli. Fans on a forum can't make it better.

    Win T20 bilateral series - Meaningless as only tournaments matter
    Win Champions Trophy - Fluke
    Win Tests in UAE - HTBs won't win abroad
    Win Test in England - London Tests don't count

    When can we celebrate then? You seem to keep moving the goalposts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    If we had a pacer of his class we would not have lost 9 out of our last 10 matches against quality teams.
    Grass is always greener on the other side. Work with what you got and stop looking at other's backyard

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    Fakhar really smashing Boult. 2 consecutive boundaries again

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    Fitness,never emphasised on that.
    Yup exactly.

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    And the spanking continuesssssssss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plumb View Post
    Grass is always greener on the other side. Work with what you got and stop looking at other's backyard
    There is no grass on this side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJK View Post
    How will cheap point scoring against fans who want to celebrate on a forum making it better. Go write to the PCB to if you want bring about real tabdeeli. Fans on a forum can't make it better.

    Win T20 bilateral series - Meaningless as only tournaments matter
    Win Champions Trophy - Fluke
    Win Tests in UAE - HTBs won't win abroad
    Win Test in England - London Tests don't count

    When can we celebrate then? You seem to keep moving the goalposts.
    This is like Fakhar Zaman smashing Trent Boult right now


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    Fakhar will be the best opener in the world soon.

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    Fakharrrrrrr Solid boy.... Boult should remember this spanking Always feels good when we spank good bowlers

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    Babar looking to dominate today.

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    lol Fakhar and Babar making it look so easy vs Boult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Inzamam would have scored 30+ ODI hundred, had he focused on his fitness and batted at three or even opened.

    For a player of his capabilities, 10 ODI hundreds is nothing. Even Hafeez has surpassed his tally and Babar will surpass it in a couple of years.
    Agreed.

    Even the other Ul-Haq, Misbah should have batted at 3 when we used to collapse like dominos.

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    What a shot by Babar

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    All class Babar

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    Trent boult ruining Southee's figures by overthrows so that he alone doesnt look bad

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    4 overthrows

    Things going from bad to worse for NZ

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    Few boundaries and legs are shaking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plumb View Post
    Fakharrrrrrr Solid boy.... Boult should remember this spanking Always feels good when we spank good bowlers
    The bowler is as good as you make him psychologically. Pakistan have a habit of making certain big names feel like monsters against them


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    Boult

    This has been a game to forget for him.

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    Remmeber bowlers have won us 90% of the match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    The bowler is as good as you make him psychologically. Pakistan have a habit of making certain big names feel like monsters against them
    forget big names we make part timers look like unplayable

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    Babar is too good if he comes in after 8 overs. The ideal #3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    Remmeber bowlers have won us 90% of the match.
    Story of Pakistan Cricket.


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    Can Fakhar get a hundred here

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    Pak have only won one series against NZ in the last 10 years.

    Ironically that series was in NZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chokli View Post
    He's a weird one.

    He needs time to get going and usually needs someone on the other end to take pressure off of him.

    Azhar did it extremely well in the CT 17 Final.
    More than him, I believe the problem is PAK's batting tactics. I explained that in another thread - why he is struggling in Asia or like some thing). Grant is s side kick, can't say much about his 55 years with PAK batsmen , but Arthur should have resisted to give such comments like Fakhar is to give a flying start or such.

    They are forcing him to over do aggression & become an Afridi which will never work for a top order batsman, not even with Viv Richards. Think about today - he was chasing 210 and knew that if PAK bats 45 overs, game is won hence never tried to over do things, took his time and still kept an SR around 75 for his first 25 tuns or so. Now, he is dominating the game when 4 men are on line - this is exactly what Rohit Sharma does.

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    Has Boult been asking Hassan Ali for tips?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justcrazy View Post
    Can Fakhar get a hundred here
    Just what the doctor ordered

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    Ferguson back into the attack.

    He was smashed in his earlier spell so lets see what he does now.

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    So the plan is to go for bouncers??? It may backfire at this stage

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    Quote Originally Posted by coy0607 View Post
    Babar opens, Haris at 3

    otherwise Hafeez to open, either Haris or Asif at 6
    In tests?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plumb View Post
    Just what the doctor ordered
    As long as he remains cool as a cucumber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baigel View Post
    In tests?
    Would you have Asif Ali at number 6 in Test matches?

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    We are winning it by 10 wickets..

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    Predictable ploy by lockie

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    Just 67 more runs required

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chokli View Post
    Agreed.

    Even the other Ul-Haq, Misbah should have batted at 3 when we used to collapse like dominos.
    NO.

    No 3 in not only about a batting position - it comes with the highest diversity as well. Misbah was never technically good enough to face new ball, he would have struggled to survive. And, No. 3 needs multiple gear for situations like 2/1, 20/1 & 200/1 - guy had only 1st & 5th gear; he would have been lost within himself.

    His best position for ODI was No. 6, because he was extremely fit to run for every contact (and not being Afridi he would have touched most balls when 9 fielders are on line), a clean hitter and he was quite intelligent, cool in chase. PAK should have used Umar, Haris, Maqsood & Misbah at 3, 4, 5 & 6 from 1st April 2011, and may be MoHa/Jamshed/Ahmed opener.

    Unfortunately those 3 spots when to Azhar, YK & Asad

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    runs partnership

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    Fantastic by Pakistan. It's nice to finally beat a world class ODI outfit after the CT. Now would love to see Fakhar score the winning tons after he reaches his ton.

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    I am sorry Fakhar for saying you should be dropped in UAE...

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    Fakhar is dismissed for 88

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    NO.

    No 3 in not only about a batting position - it comes with the highest diversity as well. Misbah was never technically good enough to face new ball, he would have struggled to survive. And, No. 3 needs multiple gear for situations like 2/1, 20/1 & 200/1 - guy had only 1st & 5th gear; he would have been lost within himself.

    His best position for ODI was No. 6, because he was extremely fit to run for every contact (and not being Afridi he would have touched most balls when 9 fielders are on line), a clean hitter and he was quite intelligent, cool in chase. PAK should have used Umar, Haris, Maqsood & Misbah at 3, 4, 5 & 6 from 1st April 2011, and may be MoHa/Jamshed/Ahmed opener.

    Unfortunately those 3 spots when to Azhar, YK & Asad
    I'm sure he would've done better than YK.

    If anyone should have batted at 6 it should have been YK, he averaged 40 at 6!

    Not sold on Maqsood, sad what happened to Jamshed and Shehzad.

    Both had a lot of potential.

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    Fakhar out. Same problem with the short ball outside off

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    Fakhar loses focus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkrai View Post
    I am sorry Fakhar for saying you should be dropped in UAE...
    Only took him about 20 or so LOI innings ........

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    Come on Fakhar. Very unnecessary to play that shot vs Fergurson. Got out in a similar manner in T20.

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    Bazid: 4 needed for Babar Azam's 100 lol

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    Missed out on a ton!


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    oh fakher

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaaik View Post
    We are winning it by 10 wickets..
    Guess not

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    If only Fakhar improves his game against short pitched bowling.


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    Good innings. Should hold his head up high. Who knows if he got out early Pakistan may have lost this as we saw when they were chasing an almost identical target against Bangladesh not so long ago.

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    The 116 in the final gave him a year to play cricket

    This 88 should extend his stay for another 6 months I recon


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    Hafeez comes at number 3

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    Still well played, he was two innings away from a chop and saved his career for SAF at least. Time for the "guy" to remain 20* against a top half side & improve stats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince of Pakistan View Post
    If only Fakhar improves his game against short pitched bowling.
    He's play cut and back foot punches really well but struggles when it's straight at him. Needs to develop the hook and pull shot indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspin View Post
    Good innings. Should hold his head up high. Who knows if he got out early Pakistan may have lost this as we saw when they were chasing an almost identical target against Bangladesh not so long ago.
    a big difference between chasing 210 and 240 especially since Bengalis had a much better bowling attack.

    I get where you're coming from though.

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    Collapse has started.

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    Pakistan are affectively 3 down here.


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    This is poor from Pakistan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chokli View Post
    Canada isn't happening.

    Africa is the best option.
    what about staging home matches in bangladesh?

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    Babaar gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by warcry View Post
    what about staging home matches in bangladesh?
    that wouldn't be bad at all but relations between the two boards haven't been the best


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