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    Where would Jacques Kallis rank amongst the great cricketers and all-rounders?

    On mere figures Jacques Kallis is the greatest all-rounder ever and amongst the top 5 cricketers of all. His figures are simply stupendous or staggering and surpass even those of Imran ,Sobers and Tendulkar as a cricketer.

    However what went against him is that he lacked the 'x ' factor of stalwart like Sobers ,Lara ,Imran,Botham or even Kapil and often did not step the gas sufficiently to win games.Kallis also was not at his best with both bat and ball for most of his career and for major part was great batsmen who bowled.Also not at his best in tests in England and Australia.Eclipsed greatly by Sobers as a match-winner as well as Imran and Miller or Botham in his peak.Kallis was not as explosive as Sobers with the bat or Imran ,Botham,Hadlee or even Kapil with the ball.Kallis also capitalized greatly on the minnow sin test cricket.


    Neverthless he was the best of all all-rounders to bat for your life and in that regard in the Tendulkar-Lara class.Kallis also took 5 wickets and scored a century twice which Imran .Miller or Kapil have never done.He also was outstanding with the ball in some series like against West Indies at home and England in 1998.Significantly he even opened the great South African attack with the new ball which is remarkable.Considering his era it would have been very difficult for Kallis to carry such a heavy load with the ball.Kallis made a major contribution in South Africa reaching the top of the pedestal in test cricket unlike Tendulkar,Lara,Botham or Hadlee even if he averaged more in draws than wins.If not the executioner he was the architect of many victories for his side.South Africa with Kallis retained top sport in test cricket for a greater duration than Pakistan with Imran but ofcourse Imran played when West Indies were at their best.Had he played in the 1980's with tracks much more helpful he may well have been the leading all-rounder even if overshadowed by the ball by Imran ,Hadlee,Botham and Kapil.His figures in ODI's were marvellous.Phenomenal performance averaging 44 as a batsmen and 31 with the ball.


    Arguably he has been grossly under rated like at 52nd place in Cristopher Martin Jenkins best 100 list and 80th place in Geoff Armstrong's 100 best.Both rank him below Sobers,Imran ,Miller,Botham,Hadlee and Kapil .I wonder what their criteria was.Only David Gower does him true justice placing him in the top 15 just below Imran and Botham.Kallis in my evaluation overall as a cricketer may be a notch below Bradman,Hobbs,Sobers,Imran,Viv,Tendulkar,Warne,Ham mond ,Lara etc and in the category of Wasim Akram,Sunil Gavaskar,Ian Botham,Adam Gilchrist ,Richard Hadlee etc.

    Kallis could not define an era like Botham,Sobers or Imran or entertain crowds like Kapil Dev but was morally right up there.If I had to guess he may be 2nd to Sobers as an all-rounder and amongst the top 15 cricketers of all.However with a gun on my head on another day he would by a whisker be below the likes of Miller,Imran,Botham .I have unanimity that Sobers was no1 but often feel in no man's land where Jacques would actually rank.

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    In the top 5 all rounders of all time. Below Sachin ,Lara ,Ponting,and Viv as a batsmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    In the top 5 all rounders of all time. Below Sachin ,Lara ,Ponting,and Viv as a batsmen.
    Where as a cricketer Overall?Around equal to Gilchrist ,McGrath or Wasim?Would he be a more suitable candidate than Imran ,Miller,Botham or even Sobers in a World xi?

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    Definitely in top 5. Very underrated cricketer, always loved his fighting spirit. Would Always want him in my team as an allrounder.

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    Very close behind Sobers as greatest all-rounder. You canít really argue with all those centuries, wickets and catches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Very close behind Sobers as greatest all-rounder. You canít really argue with all those centuries, wickets and catches.
    Ahead of Botham,Miller and Imran?

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    Well it goes without saying that he's the best cricketer of his generation.

    As a batsman alone he's the second best of his generation after Lara.

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    Pretty darn high. He was a colossul player and South Africa's greatest. I'd rank him higher than specialists like Sachin, McGrath and Muralitharan on the greatest cricketers list.

    Probably the third or fourth-best all-rounder of all time, after Sobers, Imran and perhaps, Miller.

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    Top 3 easily, arguably GOAT.

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    The greatest allrounder ever. People take the captaincy exploits of Imran and Kapil in World cup wins into consideration. Take those away and there is no greater all rounder with 600 International wickets and 25000 runs and hundreds of catches.

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    Great player, one of the all time greats. personally I won't pay to watch him play though. Was more of a statistician delight rather than a fan.

    For those I have the pleasure to seehere is who I will pay to watch for all roundes, in my order of choice s:
    Kapil
    Botham
    Imran
    Chris cairns
    Flintoff
    Akram
    Hadlee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    In the top 5 all rounders of all time. Below Sachin ,Lara ,Ponting,and Viv as a batsmen.
    Below Sobers as well, as a batsman. As a cricketer I'd say he'd be in my top 20.


    If there is a better batsman than Sachin then he hasn't arrived yet: Viv Richards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harsh Thakor View Post
    Ahead of Botham,Miller and Imran?
    ....yeah, probably. I hate to say it because I rate those three so highly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    Below Sobers as well, as a batsman. As a cricketer I'd say he'd be in my top 20.
    Makes the top 20. I think this forum treats him a little harshly. He was a brilliant test batsmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harsh Thakor View Post
    Where as a cricketer Overall?Around equal to Gilchrist ,McGrath or Wasim?Would he be a more suitable candidate than Imran ,Miller,Botham or even Sobers in a World xi?

    I wouldn't rank him higher than Gilchrist. Gilchrist is the greatest keeper batsmen of all time whilst Kallis being the best all rounder of all time is debatable.

    I would have Imran and Bottham ahead of him as an all rounder in a World XI.

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    Greatest South African cricketer of all-time.

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    The kind of stats Kallis has , its tough to exclude him from top 3 all rounders of all times.

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    Statistically amongst the top 5 greatest cricketers ever.

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    CRICKET SOUTH AFRICA (CSA) today congratulated former Standard Bank Proteas all-rounder Jacques Kallis on being honoured with the Ikhamanga Award in the Silver Division for his excellence in cricket and the role he has played in putting South Africa on the world sports map.

    The National Orders ceremony was presided over today by the President, the Honourable Cyril Ramaphosa, at a function in Tshwane. Kallis was not able to attend in person because of his involvement in the Indian Premier League as head coach of the Kolkata Knight Riders and the award was accepted on his behalf by his wife, Charlene, and former Proteas all-rounder, David Rundle.

    “It is highly fitting that Jacques should be honoured in this way with this prestigious award,” commented CSA Chief Executive Thabang Moroe. “Jacques’ long list of achievements hardly need repeating but suffice it to say he stands alongside the great Sir Garfield Sobers as the greatest batting all-rounder of all time and is certainly our greatest player of the modern era. He earned his place in every Protea team he represented both as a top-order batsman and as an outstanding swing bowler of lively pace. In addition, his slip catching was legendary and contributed significantly to the successes our fast bowlers enjoyed throughout his career.

    “Most of important of all is the outstanding example he has set for the highest standards of sportsmanship and the traditions of the game to inspire not just aspiring young cricketers but the youth of the entire country.

    “He is indeed one of the crown jewels of the CSA family and indeed I can speak on behalf of the entire nation in congratulating him and saying how proud we all are of him,” concluded Mr. Moroe.


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    He's the greatest all rounder to have played the game. He lacked the x-factor and belonged to a country without much media hype so he will always be underrated as a cricketer.


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    As a test cricketer, right there at the top. Hitting 45 centuries is no joke then you add his bowling and fielding and he becomes the complete package.

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    A legend of the game. Hard to fill boots for someone like him with multi-skills, being an expertise in batting and slip catching as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harsh Thakor View Post
    Ahead of Botham,Miller and Imran?
    NO way, may be ahead of Miller but not the other two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moghul View Post
    NO way, may be ahead of Miller but not the other two.
    I’s put Miller ahead of Botham.

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    Anyone remember that image of comparing stats of Sachin Tendulkar + Zaheer Khan = Jaques Kallis?

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    Third best AR in history after Sobers and Imran ahead of Miller and Botham.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    I’s put Miller ahead of Botham.
    Miller was a better bowler, Kallis was an all time great batsman.

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    Tier 1: Imran+Sobers
    Tier 2: Hadlee,Botham,Kallis
    Tier 3: Pollock, Miller, Shakib
    Tier 4: Kapil,Flintoff

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    Arguably the greatest cricketer of his era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by as-95 View Post
    Tier 1: Imran+Sobers
    Tier 2: Hadlee,Botham,Kallis
    Tier 3: Pollock, Miller, Shakib
    Tier 4: Kapil,Flintoff
    Shakib who ?

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    Happy 45th Birthday to Kallis


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