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    Yea Ten Sports wala doesn't help PAK fans - instead of showing highlights of today's game, they are showing Usman Shinwari's heroics against SRL reserves ..........

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    I feel this partnership has already taken the game beyond mentally fragile Pak batters

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    Pakistan In trouble need to restrict asap


    New Era of Team Pakistan

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    You keep on dreaming.
    Pak can even chase down 250. Lot of time left in the match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    Tactics pertaining to this match or selection in general?

    I never agreed with the selection of Bilal. Haris has out bowled him. Should have selected another specialist spinner.

    He should aim to keep the field up and not allow easy singles. Maybe should bowl Hafeez more if he is in the team. But if things were going well the Sarfraz fan club would be telling us it's because of him.

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    I think, if it doesn't reverse, they'll take the new ball, may be after 4 or 5 balls.

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    No misbah , no younis. Its going to test pakistan batting.


    It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    I never agreed with the selection of Bilal. Haris has out bowled him. Should have selected another specialist spinner.

    He should aim to keep the field up and not allow easy singles. Maybe should bowl Hafeez more if he is in the team. But if things were going well the Sarfraz fan club would be telling us it's because of him.
    He’s not allowing easy singles, if you look closely at the fields he has been setting for both Bilal and Yasir. Yasir has been guilty of providing one rubbish ball every over, while Bilal is struggling because there is hardly any bounce in this wicket. Not much Sarfraz can do if Yasir and Bilal do not bowl according to the fields. I believe his handling of the pace bowlers in general has been spot on. Could give a few more overs to Haris though.

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    Pak take the new ball.

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    Afternoon session Pakistan looked flat, clueless and lacking energy and ideas.

    It was almost as if they were expecting NZ to fold.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    If we were stop the scoring that would help but these 2 are playing our bowlers with ease.
    Chill it's the third day, 2 more days to go

    Pak batsmen will grind it out with Tuk Tuk

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    If pak selection/ management had a brain cell in them they would select

    Fakhar
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    In ALL formats the likes of imam hafeez azhars wouldn’t make the eng/ind 3rd xi

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAli98 View Post
    If pak selection/ management had a brain cell in them they would select

    Fakhar
    Sharjeel
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    In ALL formats the likes of imam hafeez azhars wouldn’t make the eng/ind 3rd xi
    Sharjeel is finished, even if he is allowed to come back tomorrow. It'll take at least one full season (next domestics) for his to get back into batting grove. And, I am not sure about his fitness level - ideally, when he'll be ready, he should be well into 30s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Sharjeel is finished, even if he is allowed to come back tomorrow. It'll take at least one full season (next domestics) for his to get back into batting grove. And, I am not sure about his fitness level - ideally, when he'll be ready, he should be well into 30s.
    Rather have a paid $$$ sharjeel dot ball than these useless imams hafeez’s tuk tuking all day!!

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    Pakistan have big problems as they're unable to get any wickets.

    How much will they be able to chase?

    Not more than 250 I think. Even that would be difficult.

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    NZ have been pretty good against Abbas not playing in to him and letting it go as much as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAli98 View Post
    Rather have a paid $$$ sharjeel dot ball than these useless imams hafeez’s tuk tuking all day!!
    Should look to batsmen officially U25 - couple of years under Arthur, few of them can reach Babar's level - enough. 10-12 years investment has brought MoHa, Asad, Malik, Azhar, Sarfraz at this level, therefore don't think it's going to improve further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAli98 View Post
    Rather have a paid $$$ sharjeel dot ball than these useless imams hafeez’s tuk tuking all day!!
    Imam has a 47 SR and Hafeez has a 56 SR in Tests. And they're the tuk tuks? If that is tuk tuk, I shudder to imagine what you think of Azhar Ali.

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    This Watling guy is a gritty player.

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    How is the pitch anyone?

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    Pakistan's lack of planning and any skills gets exposed time and time again yet they don't do anything to work in the time they have off from the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gullycricket View Post
    This Watling guy is a gritty player.
    He always was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaDed View Post
    How is the pitch anyone?
    Pretty good bounce still with the new ball still carrying to the keeper nicely. Not much odd bounce at all bat coming on the bat well too.

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    From the batting pastern of both teams, I think this wicket is extremely difficult for new batsman. Kiwis 153 was built on one partnership of like 75, PAK also had one of 80+ and now Kiwis 203 is built on 83 & 95*. Once set, batsmen have to cash on it - but so far only 3 50s & no hundreds.

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    Even Ramiz' commentary isn't getting Pakistan a wicket

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    Quote Originally Posted by emranabbas View Post
    Chill it's the third day, 2 more days to go

    Pak batsmen will grind it out with Tuk Tuk
    Tuk tuk will put the team under more pressure. Same batting line up couldn't even chase 135 against Sri Lanka. Now they will chase over 200 against a superior team?

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    Watling as frustrated Bangladesh a lot in the past.

    No surprise Pakistan are facing it too

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    You just know someone like grandhomme will take Fifer against us

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Tuk tuk will put the team under more pressure. Same batting line up couldn't even chase 135 against Sri Lanka. Now they will chase over 200 against a superior team?
    Sri Lanka had a much better attack than New Zealand. Pakistan can chase down anything around 200, provided the batsmen keep their heads in this chase.

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    high quality batting from new zealand. they really are an underrated team.

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    Nicholls has batted well. Gave his wicket away in the first innings but seems to be trying to make up from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Executioner View Post
    Watling as frustrated Bangladesh a lot in the past.

    No surprise Pakistan are facing it too
    What does Watling frustrating a nonsense Test team like Bangladesh have to do with this match?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    Sri Lanka had a much better attack than New Zealand. Pakistan can chase down anything around 200, provided the batsmen keep their heads in this chase.
    Herath is a supeior spinner to NZ spinners but wasn't aware that Lakmal was better than either Boult or Wagner.

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    Sarfraz capatincy hasn't been great but I think these 2 batting has been better. I'll give credit to Watling and Nicholls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Herath is a supeior spinner to NZ spinners but wasn't aware that Lakmal was better than either Boult or Wagner.
    Herath was superior to this NZ bowling attack combined. He was instrumental in dismantling Pakistan in that series. Boult, Wagner or any other pacer cannot have the same impact

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    What does Watling frustrating a nonsense Test team like Bangladesh have to do with this match?
    The only nonsense here is that you are not getting the context.

    Watling has taken New Zealand from a difficult position to a comfortable position. He has done that against BD too several times. It is a case of similarity.

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    If NZ lose a wicket, de Grandhomme should have license to attack and really take the game away from Pakistan with a quick cameo as he's capable of.

    A quick 40 or 50 and NZ can bat us out of the game. We don't have Younis Khan's 4th inninings heroics to rely on anymore. They will back Boult, Wagner and co to defend whatever they set.
    Last edited by Markhor; 18th November 2018 at 16:12.

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    Need to try and keep things tight for a few overs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    If NZ lose a wicket, de Grandhomme should have license to attack and really take the game away from Pakistan with a quick cameo as he's capable of.

    A quick 40 or 50 and NZ can bat us out of the game. We don't have Younis Khan's 4th inninings heroics to rely on anymore. They will back Boult, Wagner and co to defend whatever they set.
    That's what their plan would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    Herath was superior to this NZ bowling attack combined. He was instrumental in dismantling Pakistan in that series. Boult, Wagner or any other pacer cannot have the same impact
    Boult has already humiliated us in this series. If there's any reverse he will find it.


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    Remember the 2016 Edgbaston Test where we also had a small-ish lead.

    England in their 2nd innings were patient for a long time, wearing out our bowlers before Bairstow and Ali cut loose and took the game away from us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    If NZ lose a wicket, de Grandhomme should have license to attack and really take the game away from Pakistan with a quick cameo as he's capable of.

    A quick 40 or 50 and NZ can bat us out of the game. We don't have Younis Khan's 4th inninings heroics to rely on anymore. They will back Boult, Wagner and co to defend whatever they set.
    They'll try to do exactly that - whoever survives from this pair will try to bat out one end and last 5 wickets going after the ball - another 100 with this lead, Kiwis are clear favorite.

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    You know there isnt anything in the pitch when even Abbas cant find a hint of movement.
    Extremely borinng match right now.

    :/


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Quote Originally Posted by Executioner View Post
    The only nonsense here is that you are not getting the context.

    Watling has taken New Zealand from a difficult position to a comfortable position. He has done that against BD too several times. It is a case of similarity.
    The only nonsense here is that BD posters bring in Bangladesh in every thread as an example as if they really matter as a Test team. Its annoying.

    Watling has played two absolute blinders against Sri Lanka and India, where he combined with a senior player to drum up massive partnerships that shut the opposition out of the game. I'm sure you had no idea about those knocks, while you were too focused on Watling's innings against Bangladesh which he himself wouldn't care about I'm sure.

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    There are no demons in the pitch. But the pressure of chasing a big total will eat up Pakistan.


    If you Can Believe In Something, Than why not believe In Yourself.

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    NZ's clear tactics is not to give Abbas wicket and wear him out of attack. Already has bowled 32 overs in less than 3 days, and this is probably his last spell of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Boult has already humiliated us in this series. If there's any reverse he will find it.
    The only 'humiliation' I saw, was Boult throwing his toys out of the pram when Fakhar began dishing out some horrid beating to him in the ODIs

    If our batsmen apply themselves, NZ's bowling attack shouldn't cause us any problems.

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    Btw Mohammad Irfan Jailer ( SLA not leggie) got 4 wickets today against Eng Lions.

    I would draft him to the main side asap.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Pitch looks flat but pak will definitely struggle with the chase from here on. Mentally the scoreboard pressure will be too much for

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    Looks like these 2s will score 100 and then Boult will destroy our trundling batting.

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    Pak have so many matches due to our poor chasing. Anything less than 300 is chase able here considering the wicket.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Out?

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    Nichols gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    The only nonsense here is that BD posters bring in Bangladesh in every thread as an example as if they really matter as a Test team. Its annoying.

    Watling has played two absolute blinders against Sri Lanka and India, where he combined with a senior player to drum up massive partnerships that shut the opposition out of the game. I'm sure you had no idea about those knocks, while you were too focused on Watling's innings against Bangladesh which he himself wouldn't care about I'm sure.
    He is a Bangladeshi poster, what's wrong bringing that example here? You are a laughing stalk in AUS for 20 years now - still I have heard Dean Jones bringing PAK game as example. Do you realize that Kiwis have got you nervous here & you are taking your frustration out of Bangladesh? No, you are absolutely wrong if you think Watling won't care about his Test inning against any team, just like whole PAK cricket including Coach celebrated Fakhar's 200 against ZIM reserves. Don't try to insult any one - his example was perfectly within context.

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    Finally a breakthrough.

    Good keeping by Sarfraz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    The only nonsense here is that BD posters bring in Bangladesh in every thread as an example as if they really matter as a Test team. Its annoying.

    Watling has played two absolute blinders against Sri Lanka and India, where he combined with a senior player to drum up massive partnerships that shut the opposition out of the game. I'm sure you had no idea about those knocks, while you were too focused on Watling's innings against Bangladesh which he himself wouldn't care about I'm sure.
    Dude you are the only one getting riled up here unnecessarily. I just mentioned Bangladesh. I didn't say BD is the only team he performed against. Yes I heard about his exploits against other Asian sides but I didn't get to watch the match so I didn't bring them into discussion.

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    Abbass 21-10-29-0

    Great figures, even though he a 0 in the wickets column

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oligochaetes View Post
    Abbass 21-10-29-0

    Great figures, even though he a 0 in the wickets column
    He has bowled well but pitch has nothing. Today is the best day for batting.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    Btw Mohammad Irfan Jailer ( SLA not leggie) got 4 wickets today against Eng Lions.

    I would draft him to the main side asap.
    yeah he is one of the domestic perfomer over the years plus he fills up runs with the bat idiocracy

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    De Grandhomme is the big wicket here. Ideally would've wanted him in when the ball was reversing. He'd be comfortable with this new ball.

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    I believe Abbas' streak of taking a wicket in every innings is under threat. I think he's taken a wicket in at least 12 consecutive innings.

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    If Pakistanis battesmd this slow all off PP woule be saying they are **** players lol

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    Abbas has not been lucky this match. He has beaten the edge again and again and when he did get the edge it turned out to be a thickish one where the ball went in front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    He is a Bangladeshi poster, what's wrong bringing that example here? You are a laughing stalk in AUS for 20 years now - still I have heard Dean Jones bringing PAK game as example. Do you realize that Kiwis have got you nervous here & you are taking your frustration out of Bangladesh? No, you are absolutely wrong if you think Watling won't care about his Test inning against any team, just like whole PAK cricket including Coach celebrated Fakhar's 200 against ZIM reserves. Don't try to insult any one - his example was perfectly within context.
    Quote Originally Posted by Executioner View Post
    Dude you are the only one getting riled up here unnecessarily. I just mentioned Bangladesh. I didn't say BD is the only team he performed against. Yes I heard about his exploits against other Asian sides but I didn't get to watch the match so I didn't bring them into discussion.
    Cut him some slack, he suffers from Banglaphobia. The symptoms have only aggravated after the Asia Cup humiliation.

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    Thanks for wasting the review Grandehome

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    How come we don't have any review after 80 overs. Is it a new rule?

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    What a waste of a review

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    Watling is another underrated New Zealand cricketer. He has been one of the most reliable WKs of this decade.

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    Grandhomme should have batted at no 11 here. This hack wasnt going to survive here in any way despite great batting conditions. Wasted a review too.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Anything above 200 is going to be really challenging. Hope the top 3 actually perform this time.

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    Kiwis would try to carry the innings to Day 4, so that they can use the heavy roller on 4th morning. But, might be tough - still 16 overs left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Horse View Post
    yeah he is one of the domestic perfomer over the years plus he fills up runs with the bat idiocracy
    Unlike Kashif Bhatti he is from Lahore and has done well on un-supportive pitches too.

    Interesting bit about batting i never knew he can bat too.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Watling is another underrated New Zealand cricketer. He has been one of the most reliable WKs of this decade.
    Real shame that NZ don't play more tests. This guy is quality.

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    when i went to bed Hasan took 2 wicket, now i woke up and Shah take 2 wickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Viper View Post
    Real shame that NZ don't play more tests. This guy is quality.
    Cricket will always be a distance second sport in New Zealand, and it is of course a shame for some of their players who would have been big stars in other countries.

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    Renewed hope for Pakistan!


    For the latest updates on Cricket, follow @PakPassion on Twitter

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    Since that first innings against aussies Bilal Asif hasnt been that much effective. Arthur and Sarfaraz should call in another spinner to the squad for the 2nd match irrespective of the result in this match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    Unlike Kashif Bhatti he is from Lahore and has done well on un-supportive pitches too.

    Interesting bit about batting i never knew he can bat too.
    these days lahore wickets are seamer paradise cheema etc have hell of a average here


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