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    PCB trying to convince Cricket Australia for two-match ODI series in Pakistan

    KARACHI: The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is trying to persuade Cricket Australia to play two match ODI series next year in Pakistan before the World Cup in England.

    PCB chairman Ehsan Mani said that the five-match series is scheduled to be held in UAE sometime in late March and early April and PCB was trying to persuade the Australians to play two games in Pakistan.

    A PCB official said that the series could be rescheduled as the Australians are keen to play it as close to the World Cup as possible. The World Cup is slated to start from late May in England.

    The source said that Pakistan also had a five-match ODI series in England just before the World Cup.

    "Since we will be hosting the Australians, we have told them try to play two matches in Pakistan. The process is on but nothing is final as yet."
    Australia has not played in Pakistan since 1998.

    Australia's top batsmen, Steve Smith and David Warner will also complete their 12-month bans at the end of March and should be playing against Pakistan before the World Cup.

    Ehsan Mani said that to persuade top teams to play in Pakistan it was a matter of changing perceptions about the situation in Pakistan.

    "Once anyone comes to Pakistan and views the situation by himself, it will not be hard to convince him that international cricket can return to Pakistan properly. But it is not easy trying to change the perception of people who have not been to Pakistan in recent times," he said.

    He admitted that Pakistan needed top teams to start visiting again to see the permanent international cricket to the country which has been on a hold since March, 2009 when militants attacked the Sri Lankan team in Lahore.

    Since then no touring side has played a full series including Tests in Pakistan and between September 2017 to April 2018 PCB was able to convince teams to come and play short T20 series including a ICC World eleven, Sri Lanka and West Indies.

    Mani noted that the Asian Cricket Council annual general body meeting held in Lahore last week was a good step forward for Pakistan cricket as ICC's CEO Dave Richardson was also present and except for India, all the ACC member nations sent their representatives.

    Link: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/66745419.cms
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    Hope this goes through

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    It’s good to see them trying it, but unfortunately Australia touring Pakistan is very unlikely.

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    Think the idea is to keep on saying it until someone says yes!


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    Australia are the last team PCB should ask. They haven't played in Pakistan in 2 decades.


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    Have to keep lobbying and persisting, an Australian series is due.

    What more do the likes of England, Australia, NZ, South Africa want?

    We have hosted Zimbabwe in 2015, we hosted a PSL final in 2017, we hosted the World Eleven tour in 2017, we hosted the Sri Lankan team for a T-20 in 2017, we hosted a few PSL playoff games and a PSL final in 2018, We hosted the WI in 2018.

    This is a sufficient sample size that the Pakistan security forces can provide top notch security and the Pakistani public will welcome these foreigners with open arms.

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    We should move that 5 Match ODI series to England or Scotland... Even Ireland.

    Do we really want to see half our batsmen struggle and be down on confidence before the World Cup?

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    Adat hi bna li h PCB ne hr maheene beizzat hone ki!!!

    It is never gonna happen . Aussies would be the last one to visit Pakistan .

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    Good. They should always try.

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    Why go public though? Why not behind close doors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Australia are the last team PCB should ask. They haven't played in Pakistan in 2 decades.
    On the contrary, if they say yes it's a massive coup.

    I like it. Proceed into a situation where you have nothing to lose and make it a 50:50 decision (Yes / No). It might just work.

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    There is probably a higher chance of India touring Pakistan than Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varun View Post
    On the contrary, if they say yes it's a massive coup.

    I like it. Proceed into a situation where you have nothing to lose and make it a 50:50 decision (Yes / No). It might just work.
    I highly doubt it. I think Pakistan are better off trying to get England or SAF next year who I think are supposed to tour UAE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Think the idea is to keep on saying it until someone says yes!
    yea pretty much. Either that, or to show public that they are trying / working

    Seems like once a month we hear something like this

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    There is a better chance for Saffers to visit than Aussies. SA have gone through apartheid and can understand the situation better. Duplessis and co were part of World XI and duminy and co played PSL. Aussies are the most stubborn and a negative reaction will set PCB back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhony View Post
    There is a better chance for Saffers to visit than Aussies. SA have gone through apartheid and can understand the situation better. Duplessis and co were part of World XI and duminy and co played PSL. Aussies are the most stubborn and a negative reaction will set PCB back.
    An Australian tour of Pakistan is due. Only a matter of time. Dean Jones and Geoff Lawson can help big time.

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    Australia is the last country that would ever visit Pakistan. Nothing wrong with Pak, Australia cricket board is terrible. They are greedy, selfish and has huge ego. They only 'respect' (?) BCCi since BCCI is rich and Indian expats bring alot of money. Australia's attitude towards weaker boards is awful. Their players are awful too, only thing remotely good about them is their great records.

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    Given their history - when India, England etc were touring Pakistan Australia still refused to tour on security grounds - I canít see Australia touring Pakistan again until most of the other sides do.

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    Absolutely 0 chance of Australia touring Pakistan.

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    Donít see it happening for the next 50 years (given the direction of international politics).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    Australia is the last country that would ever visit Pakistan. Nothing wrong with Pak, Australia cricket board is terrible. They are greedy, selfish and has huge ego. They only 'respect' (?) BCCi since BCCI is rich and Indian expats bring alot of money. Australia's attitude towards weaker boards is awful. Their players are awful too, only thing remotely good about them is their great records.
    Australian cricket board do not have the final say about the cricket team touring Pakistan, the government make that call. Until the government say it is safe for Australians to visit Pakistan Australian cricket boards hands are tied and they cannot organize a tour.

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    Even a personal guarantee by Pervez Musharraf in 2002 to the then Australian PM John Howard failed to make a difference back then.

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    Hope it happens, however, the last time Australia toured Pakistan was like 1998.

    So realistically, Australia is the last team I see coming to Pakistan.


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    Wont happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sachin136 View Post
    There is probably a higher chance of India touring Pakistan than Australia.
    Without a doubt

    Australia are the last team that would come.


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    So this circus is continuing under Mani as well.

    Invite whoever the heck you want.

    But why come running to the media and announce it?!?!?!?! Do they have any shame and embarrassment left?

    Of course it's gonna be denied but do this behind the scenes you geniuses. Whenever someone denies it harms our reputation even more!

    All boards or bodies in the world only announce things when mutually decided and finalized!

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    Pakistan is considered the most boring country to visit by Western Cricketers. Imagine locked in your hotel like a Prison constantly guarded by Armed Commandos. Who would want to travel in such conditions?

    Comparing to India, there is no incentive on offer like monetary benefits or playing in an iconic venue like Eden Gardens. Don't see any reason why any country would want to visit Pakistan, least of all Westerners who would be the prime targets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    So this circus is continuing under Mani as well.

    Invite whoever the heck you want.

    But why come running to the media and announce it?!?!?!?! Do they have any shame and embarrassment left?

    Of course it's gonna be denied but do this behind the scenes you geniuses. Whenever someone denies it harms our reputation even more!

    All boards or bodies in the world only announce things when mutually decided and finalized!
    We have had pull outs and last minute cancellations even when things had been decided behind the scenes

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    Quote Originally Posted by javier View Post
    Pakistan is considered the most boring country to visit by Western Cricketers. Imagine locked in your hotel like a Prison constantly guarded by Armed Commandos. Who would want to travel in such conditions?

    Comparing to India, there is no incentive on offer like monetary benefits or playing in an iconic venue like Eden Gardens. Don't see any reason why any country would want to visit Pakistan, least of all Westerners who would be the prime targets.
    Oh yeah. Taliban would be much more happy to attack westerners than Indians. That would put them on global headlines instantly for weeks. Not sure they could even be lured with money to play in Pak (Aussie players are rich enough that any amount can be compensated, Australia is filthy rich).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Have to keep lobbying and persisting, an Australian series is due.

    What more do the likes of England, Australia, NZ, South Africa want?

    We have hosted Zimbabwe in 2015, we hosted a PSL final in 2017, we hosted the World Eleven tour in 2017, we hosted the Sri Lankan team for a T-20 in 2017, we hosted a few PSL playoff games and a PSL final in 2018, We hosted the WI in 2018.

    This is a sufficient sample size that the Pakistan security forces can provide top notch security and the Pakistani public will welcome these foreigners with open arms.
    Maybe the Foreign teams don't even want to visit a country where top-notch security is required.

    If I was a Cricketer I would rather visit a country like NZ where I need no security as I will be no target of any militant groups.

    Are Taliban and other militant groups In Pakistan likely to target foreign teams visiting Pakistan? If yes then the foreign teams are well within their rights to deny the offer.

    Regarding Australia, they refused to visit Pakistan before WOT even started so forget about it now.

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    Today two policemen have been killed and a security guard injured in an attack on the Chinese consulate in the Pakistani port city of Karachi.

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    Hopefully Chinese Consulate attack wont affect foreign players' participation in PSL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by javier View Post
    Pakistan is considered the most boring country to visit by Western Cricketers. Imagine locked in your hotel like a Prison constantly guarded by Armed Commandos. Who would want to travel in such conditions?

    Comparing to India, there is no incentive on offer like monetary benefits or playing in an iconic venue like Eden Gardens. Don't see any reason why any country would want to visit Pakistan, least of all Westerners who would be the prime targets.
    Don't think that should be a valid reason for the players. They are professional people doing their job, not tourists visiting countries. The Indian players were confined to their hotel rooms as well during their 2004 and 2006 tours to Pakistan. None of them whined.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    Australia is the last country that would ever visit Pakistan. Nothing wrong with Pak, Australia cricket board is terrible. They are greedy, selfish and has huge ego. They only 'respect' (?) BCCi since BCCI is rich and Indian expats bring alot of money. Australia's attitude towards weaker boards is awful. Their players are awful too, only thing remotely good about them is their great records.
    Don't think obeying or listening to someone's demands or requests due to lure of monetary gains can be termed as respect.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Have to keep lobbying and persisting, an Australian series is due.

    What more do the likes of England, Australia, NZ, South Africa want?

    We have hosted Zimbabwe in 2015, we hosted a PSL final in 2017, we hosted the World Eleven tour in 2017, we hosted the Sri Lankan team for a T-20 in 2017, we hosted a few PSL playoff games and a PSL final in 2018, We hosted the WI in 2018.

    This is a sufficient sample size that the Pakistan security forces can provide top notch security and the Pakistani public will welcome these foreigners with open arms.
    They have no love towards the PCB or any other cricketing board. The only thing they know is what's good for them and their cricket. Why would they go through the mental agony of touring Pakistan for no extra incentives? What you are saying is from a Pak fan's perspective. Unfortunately, no one else outside of Pak thinks from such a perspective. They would do what's good for them, not what's good for Pak cricket.


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    Offer one million $$$ to each Aussie player who agrees to play in Pakistan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Done View Post
    Offer one million $$$ to each Aussie player who agrees to play in Pakistan
    A lot of the players would be willing to tour if such an amount can be offered.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    So this circus is continuing under Mani as well.

    Invite whoever the heck you want.

    But why come running to the media and announce it?!?!?!?! Do they have any shame and embarrassment left?

    Of course it's gonna be denied but do this behind the scenes you geniuses. Whenever someone denies it harms our reputation even more!

    All boards or bodies in the world only announce things when mutually decided and finalized!
    Where do you see the PCB running to the media and announcing it?

    Could be masala news for all we know.

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    Its better for Australia to play this series on flat tracks of Pakistan instead of UAE as a preparation for world cup. Even better would be to move this series to England (if cricket can be played there in March/April).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    Don't think that should be a valid reason for the players. They are professional people doing their job, not tourists visiting countries. The Indian players were confined to their hotel rooms as well during their 2004 and 2006 tours to Pakistan. None of them whined.
    Actually, they weren't confined.

    Roamed and visited several markets.

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    Pakistan is not ready to host international cricket and shouldnít even be trying until the people of Pakistan feel safe in their own country. I personally hope the psl isnít hosted in Karachi or Lahore in 2019, one major incident just like the one in Karachi today could delay the process of playing at home even further.

    Bring back cricket only when Pakistan goes a year without any terrorist attack.

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    The security situation in Pakistan will never be at par with the well established cricketing nations such as England, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa (at a certain level), India or even Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. Our national policies have screwed us over for the past 4-5 decades. So the choice is to either give up on international cricket in Pakistan or create an artificial sense of security with thousands of military personnel protecting a bunch of foreigners outside the select few cricket stadiums. Itís a sad but honest reality.

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    How delusional people are in this country.

    2 attacks in a span of week in the financial hub of country and they think Australia will be convinced of touring Pakistan

    I doubt even Bangladesh would come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Have to keep lobbying and persisting, an Australian series is due.

    What more do the likes of England, Australia, NZ, South Africa want?

    We have hosted Zimbabwe in 2015, we hosted a PSL final in 2017, we hosted the World Eleven tour in 2017, we hosted the Sri Lankan team for a T-20 in 2017, we hosted a few PSL playoff games and a PSL final in 2018, We hosted the WI in 2018.

    This is a sufficient sample size that the Pakistan security forces can provide top notch security and the Pakistani public will welcome these foreigners with open arms.
    what do they want? they want Pakistan to turn into Dubai overnight so they can feel "safe" but are happy to go to any other subcontinental country with just as many problems. I mean these hypocrites went to sri lanka when the war was raging on a few kilometers away. they went to England at the height of the war with the IRA. I mean the IRA killed a member of the royal family and nearly killed the PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YousafTheBeast View Post
    Pakistan is not ready to host international cricket and shouldn’t even be trying until the people of Pakistan feel safe in their own country. I personally hope the psl isn’t hosted in Karachi or Lahore in 2019, one major incident just like the one in Karachi today could delay the process of playing at home even further.

    Bring back cricket only when Pakistan goes a year without any terrorist attack.
    dunno mate but Pakistanis feel a hell of alot safer today than they did a few years ago. Terror attacks are down to below 2005 levels..we hosted the asia cup in 2008. Just look at the number of attacks happening in 2008. There were bombings throughout the 80's and the 90's but teams still toured.

    The incident in karachi is tragic but lets be honest that wasnt a big attack. It was dealt with by the authorities and shouldnt other country's show the terrorists they cant win? unless its pakistan of course..then the world wouldnt mind if the terrorists win..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    Don't think that should be a valid reason for the players. They are professional people doing their job, not tourists visiting countries. The Indian players were confined to their hotel rooms as well during their 2004 and 2006 tours to Pakistan. None of them whined.
    they werent confined. Many went out and about openly. same with england in 2005. Ive seen tons of foreigners in pakistan when i went recently. Loads of tourists too. The country is open for business and we just need a bit of support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Great Khan View Post
    dunno mate but Pakistanis feel a hell of alot safer today than they did a few years ago. Terror attacks are down to below 2005 levels..we hosted the asia cup in 2008. Just look at the number of attacks happening in 2008. There were bombings throughout the 80's and the 90's but teams still toured.

    The incident in karachi is tragic but lets be honest that wasnt a big attack. It was dealt with by the authorities and shouldnt other country's show the terrorists they cant win? unless its pakistan of course..then the world wouldnt mind if the terrorists win..
    Bringing cricket back will only put our people in more danger, as these cricket events will be targeted by terrorists. And with the PSL around the corner, weíll see more attacks just like last year. I agree that terror attacks have gone down, but, we still have nutcases walking around with AKís and grenades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Great Khan View Post
    what do they want? they want Pakistan to turn into Dubai overnight so they can feel "safe" but are happy to go to any other subcontinental country with just as many problems. I mean these hypocrites went to sri lanka when the war was raging on a few kilometers away. they went to England at the height of the war with the IRA. I mean the IRA killed a member of the royal family and nearly killed the PM. Theyre happy to go to India that kills kashmiris everyday and curfews galore. they are happy to tour a country that openly lynches people on the street and rapes women openly on the streets..Thats "safe"..
    Pakistan is never going to have the ideal state of security with zero crime, zero killings. Yes we screwed up badly in 2009 where a cricket team was attacked for the first time in cricketing history but since then we have hosted 10-12 cricketing events in Pakistan and have provided top notch security. Cannot let the world keep avoiding Pakistan under the pretext of "Security" reasons only. Plenty of foreigners come to Pakistan from all over the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YousafTheBeast View Post
    Bringing cricket back will only put our people in more danger, as these cricket events will be targeted by terrorists. And with the PSL around the corner, we’ll see more attacks just like last year. I agree that terror attacks have gone down, but, we still have nutcases walking around with AK’s and grenades.
    That's always going to be the case with the Americans in Afghanistan, the Indians in Kashmir and now the Chinese in Pakistan. Can't let the world use that as a convenient excuse to keep avoiding Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aukhan View Post
    How delusional people are in this country.

    2 attacks in a span of week in the financial hub of country and they think Australia will be convinced of touring Pakistan

    I doubt even Bangladesh would come.
    Lol, whose inviting Bangladesh. They can continue to stay uninvited just like the Australians uninvited them.

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    I think you people need perspective here.

    Pakistan is safe in your eyes, but thats not the same as Australians standards of safety unfortunately.

    Pakistan might seem like it has seen a lot of foreigners today, however it is nothing in comparison to the amount of tourists other countries get on a daily basis.

    I wouldn't want Australia touring anytime soon, just because i know if anything happens to those players then Pakistan will never see an international match again for a few more decades.

    The country needs another few years to start culling out its extremism and then hopefully it will be a great place for foreigners to visit.

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    After the terror attack on Chinese Consulate in Karachi forget international cricket in the city for the foreseeable future. Why PCB is he'll bent on pursuing impossible ventures is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    They have no love towards the PCB or any other cricketing board. The only thing they know is what's good for them and their cricket. Why would they go through the mental agony of touring Pakistan for no extra incentives? What you are saying is from a Pak fan's perspective. Unfortunately, no one else outside of Pak thinks from such a perspective. They would do what's good for them, not what's good for Pak cricket.
    this is the bitter truth we need to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Have to keep lobbying and persisting, an Australian series is due.

    What more do the likes of England, Australia, NZ, South Africa want?

    We have hosted Zimbabwe in 2015, we hosted a PSL final in 2017, we hosted the World Eleven tour in 2017, we hosted the Sri Lankan team for a T-20 in 2017, we hosted a few PSL playoff games and a PSL final in 2018, We hosted the WI in 2018.

    This is a sufficient sample size that the Pakistan security forces can provide top notch security and the Pakistani public will welcome these foreigners with open arms.
    Unfortunately there were 2 terrorist attacks in Pakistan today. When was the last time something similar happened in Australia or England?
    Last edited by MenInG; 23rd November 2018 at 19:16. Reason: Were 2 attacks in different cities - not 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    They have no love towards the PCB or any other cricketing board. The only thing they know is what's good for them and their cricket. Why would they go through the mental agony of touring Pakistan for no extra incentives? What you are saying is from a Pak fan's perspective. Unfortunately, no one else outside of Pak thinks from such a perspective. They would do what's good for them, not what's good for Pak cricket.
    thats a very good post. Simple and to the point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by humzy View Post
    I think you people need perspective here.

    Pakistan is safe in your eyes, but thats not the same as Australians standards of safety unfortunately.

    Pakistan might seem like it has seen a lot of foreigners today, however it is nothing in comparison to the amount of tourists other countries get on a daily basis.

    I wouldn't want Australia touring anytime soon, just because i know if anything happens to those players then Pakistan will never see an international match again for a few more decades.

    The country needs another few years to start culling out its extremism and then hopefully it will be a great place for foreigners to visit.
    We have been hearing these few years from countries like Australia since 1998. It's time for the PCB to act tough and raise its voice at the hypocricy of the western boards and their refusal to send their teams to Pakistan. Pakistan has hosted sufficient number of international games in Pakistan since 2009 to prove that Cricket can be played in Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    They have no love towards the PCB or any other cricketing board. The only thing they know is what's good for them and their cricket. Why would they go through the mental agony of touring Pakistan for no extra incentives? What you are saying is from a Pak fan's perspective. Unfortunately, no one else outside of Pak thinks from such a perspective. They would do what's good for them, not what's good for Pak cricket.
    Classic Big 3 mentality. No wonder Bangladesh will never get to play a series in Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Great Khan View Post
    they werent confined. Many went out and about openly. same with england in 2005. Ive seen tons of foreigners in pakistan when i went recently. Loads of tourists too. The country is open for business and we just need a bit of support.
    Oh bhai all you do is act as though we are some victims. Australia will do what is best for them and we have to accept it.

    We aren't always the victims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    They have no love towards the PCB or any other cricketing board. The only thing they know is what's good for them and their cricket. Why would they go through the mental agony of touring Pakistan for no extra incentives? What you are saying is from a Pak fan's perspective. Unfortunately, no one else outside of Pak thinks from such a perspective. They would do what's good for them, not what's good for Pak cricket.
    Well said . It's a shame our fans don't understand this.

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    Goodness, the delusions with some people here are still strong even after the court battle fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Oh bhai all you do is act as though we are some victims. Australia will do what is best for them and we have to accept it.

    We aren't always the victims.
    No we don't, relationships have to be fair, we cant let the entire world just do what is best for them all the time and not for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    No we don't, relationships have to be fair, we cant let the entire world just do what is best for them all the time and not for us.
    You can't force teams to travel to Pakistan and you can't blame them for not wanting to travel to Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    You can't force teams to travel to Pakistan and you can't blame them for not wanting to travel to Pakistan.
    Don't know about forcing, one can continue lobbying but you can definitely blame them given that the PCB and Pakistan have successfully held the last 12-15 international games in Pakistan incident free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Don't know about forcing, one can continue lobbying but you can definitely blame them given that the PCB and Pakistan have successfully held the last 12-15 international games in Pakistan incident free.
    No you can't blame the. A player was nearly murdererd. These cricketers have families. Why should they risk that to make me and you happy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    No you can't blame the. A player was nearly murdererd. These cricketers have families. Why should they risk that to make me and you happy?
    10 years ago, it is 2018 now. There is no risk, the PCB is providing excellent security which they have proven. There is no security threat to any player as the PCB has proven, the PCB should sue these boards for cancelling bilateral arrangements under false pretences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    10 years ago, it is 2018 now. There is no risk, .
    Just in the last 24 hours there were two horrific incidents ... how can one be soo blind to facts ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    10 years ago, it is 2018 now. There is no risk, the PCB is providing excellent security which they have proven. There is no security threat to any player as the PCB has proven, the PCB should sue these boards for cancelling bilateral arrangements under false pretences.

    These things take a very long time to get over. Also in between that time we have had other attacks.

    PCB won't sue anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tusker View Post
    Just in the last 24 hours there were two horrific incidents ... how can one be soo blind to facts ?
    Yes, but nothing of the sort will happen to teams with presidential level security

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    These things take a very long time to get over. Also in between that time we have had other attacks.

    PCB won't sue anyone.
    10 years is long enough. Can't hold isolated attacks against the PCB and Pakistan Cricket forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Yes, but nothing of the sort will happen to teams with presidential level security
    That is immaterial from the perspective of visiting teams because fact of the matter is there are rogue groups in Pakistan for whom western nationals are a high value targets . They cannot be bothered to go through the hassle of verifying the security arrangements and hope for the best. Just simply not worth the hassle. And God forbid if something untoward still happens the repercussions will be catastrophic for the visiting board.
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    Never going to happen. Australia didn't tour before 2009, why would they suddenly agree now?

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    I hope I am wrong but I can't see CA agreeing to this.

    They won't risk this at the moment.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Yes, but nothing of the sort will happen to teams with presidential level security
    Didn't SL players have presidential level security when they were attacked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Great Khan View Post
    what do they want? they want Pakistan to turn into Dubai overnight so they can feel "safe" but are happy to go to any other subcontinental country with just as many problems. I mean these hypocrites went to sri lanka when the war was raging on a few kilometers away. they went to England at the height of the war with the IRA. I mean the IRA killed a member of the royal family and nearly killed the PM.
    Yes, you are absolutely right. Players were subject full fledged targeted assault with automatic firearms in every country in the sub continent.

    Its not like the two sides called a truce for cricket world cup in SL.

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    Not at the moment. Perhaps in a few years, insha Allah.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    Don't think that should be a valid reason for the players. They are professional people doing their job, not tourists visiting countries. The Indian players were confined to their hotel rooms as well during their 2004 and 2006 tours to Pakistan. None of them whined.
    Idiotic post.

    Job hazard as a cricketer should be getting hit with bouncers not getting hit with bullets.

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    A country does not become good to host a trip just because thereís top notch security. Players will like to go to market for shopping, invite their wives/girlfriends, enjoy beaches, trips to good restaurants. They wonít like to stay 24x7 behind thousands of commandos, being carried in armoured carriers to stadiums, eat bland food hidden in hotel rooms. Check what Pakistani players do in free time when in England, NZ or even India. Shopping, eating street foods, visiting beach/temple/castle/forts, flirting with fans in parties. Players are not robots meant to entertain the host in the day and then back in the prison hotels.

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    If players have to be given Presidential level security just so they can do their basic job to entertain fans, itís an extremely dangerous place to visit! No question!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmahones View Post
    Idiotic post.

    Job hazard as a cricketer should be getting hit with bouncers not getting hit with bullets.
    No player has been hit with a bullet since that attack years ago.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    No player has been hit with a bullet since that attack years ago.
    Its up to the players to decide as what level of risk he is wiling to take.

    did Pak not promise presidential level security for the SL team?

    Was it presidential level security?

    If yes, the world cricket is justified in wanting nothing to do with Pak.

    if the answer is no? who decided to rescind presidential level security?

    Has PCB owned up to the world cricketing community about that shambolic treatment of its guests?

    all I recall is guys miandad going off on the victims.

    why should world cricket trust PCB?


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