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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    That too with 1 specialist spinner & 2 pacers - formula is fixed, kill Yasir.

    He should charge PCB two match fees and a special A+ contract.
    Yes true. But then he only plays tests, still no justification of not having a spinner with him who will be used for atleast 25-30 overs and effectively distribute the workload.

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    400 up

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    I think, Kiwis won't take 2nd ball here - they are doing a nice containing job with soft ball.

    It depends on whether they want to try for wickets or keep it the way it is.

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    Why was Sodhi under bowled ?

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    Another 20-25 runs at most!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILcricket View Post
    Why was Sodhi under bowled ?
    That's actually a good tactics. Kiwis use him as a 2nd/4th innings specialist. He is not the tightest Leggi around, but turns lot - in 1st innings, with less turn he'll give boundary balls every here & there. ENG uses Rashid similarly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILcricket View Post
    Why was Sodhi under bowled ?
    He has been ineffective throughout the tour. Was thrashed in his best format even which was T20s

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    Really slow

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    What a shame it would be if Pakistan is still not in a position to declare after batting for 2 full days.

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    4 Wickets to bowlers in 163 overs and then ICC will fine Test venues where result comes in 3 days!!!!

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    it seems no declaration today

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    They should declare now clouds so the new ball can swing a little bit

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    It wouldnít not matter how slow or how long Pakistan bat as they win this match .. If NZ manage to draw or wins the match then you can criticize/wrist slit all you want ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Horse View Post
    They should declare now clouds so the new ball can swing a little bit
    early closure today perhaps . Theoretically 15 overs left minus 2 for innings change , bat for max 2 overs & declare .

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    Quote Originally Posted by bantu View Post
    It wouldn’t not matter how slow or how long Pakistan bat as they win this match .. If NZ manage to draw or wins the match then you can criticize/wrist slit all you want ..
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    4 Wickets to bowlers in 163 overs and then ICC will fine Test venues where result comes in 3 days!!!!
    A test wicket should make a contest for 5 days. Match finished under 3 days is no way a good cricket pitch. Will have to see Pak ball here to make judgement about this wicket.

    High scoring games happen even in Australia and other venues. Otherwsie you would never have seen double tons and tripple tons in tests.

    Poor pitch isnt the one with high scores, its the one with low scores and made artificially for that purpose

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    I though home team being behind would be more attacking in its approach but not having a shy at kiwi's after they been in field for 167 overs is pathetic in my opinion .
    Last edited by ILcricket; 25th November 2018 at 16:48. Reason: typo

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    I think, Yasir will trouble Kiwis here. If pacers can reverse, PAK should win this Test - should look to bat till 45 minutes before lunch & score as quickly as possible. Also, batting 2 days means, Sarfraz can ask for the heaviest roller on 3rd morning.

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    Shot by Babar

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    Hope Babar doesn't turn into a spin basher. Want him to take on pace as well!

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    Declared

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    I think, Yasir will trouble Kiwis here. If pacers can reverse, PAK should win this Test - should look to bat till 45 minutes before lunch & score as quickly as possible. Also, batting 2 days means, Sarfraz can ask for the heaviest roller on 3rd morning.
    The declaration was too early going by the fact we struggle in 2nd innings?

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    If declaration was on the cards - shouldn't the players been looking to bat at 6 RPO in the last 1 hour given you were only 5 wickets down.

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    PAK declared - Sarfraz has improved his average

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    Sensible move . 11 overs today light permitting . My prediction : Kiwi's all out for under 250 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    The declaration was too early going by the fact we struggle in 2nd innings?
    May be they want a go at Kiwis. But if 170 overs was the target mark, then must have to say last 25 overs batting was pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    PAK declared - Sarfraz has improved his average
    Champion of slefish soft runs. Not surprised. As a captain he should have taken more risk if he was going to declare. One of many reasons why he doesn't look like a leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinnegan Sasuke View Post
    Hope Babar doesn't turn into a spin basher. Want him to take on pace as well!
    He will murder pace on faster wickets.

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    That declaration didn't seem to be planned out.

    They weren't batting as if a declaration was coming for the last hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSN View Post
    Champion of slefish soft runs. Not surprised. As a captain he should have taken more risk if he was going to declare. One of many reasons why he doesn't look like a leader.
    True, came at batting after Tea, and he knew they'll declare with 10-12 overs to go, then he was dropped ..... statistically ****** can still say 30 @ 67 SR in an innings where run rate was 2.5, but I have seen the game today

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    Did sarfaraz declare or Mickey?

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    Sarfraz has made sure that the only way Pakistan wins this game is by bowling out NZ for under 260 here. What a pathetic batting display and the declaration even more so.

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    If they were going to declare they why not go for kill, added around 35 in last 10 over

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    He will murder pace on faster wickets.
    Won't, rather he'll get murdered if there is slight movement. I am his fan also, but not blind fanatic - I have seen him batting at 3 in AUS, and by any stress of imagination, those were not typical faster Aussie wickets.

    He is a good batsman in making, keep it to that level before facing Styen & Rabad on faster wickets.

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    Need 2 wickets tonight to make this declaration look gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navdeep Srivastava View Post
    If they were going to declare they why not go for kill, added around 35 in last 10 over
    Because they didn't know themselves that they'll declare.

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    Misbah style batting performance followed up by a Michael Clarke like declaration. This is going to backfire in all likelihood. Not enough runs on the board for this dead pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oligochaetes View Post
    Did sarfaraz declare or Mickey?
    What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boi View Post
    Misbah style batting performance followed up by a Michael Clarke like declaration. This is going to backfire in all likelihood. Not enough runs on the board for this dead pitch.
    Result . 1-1 here .


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    NZ played Abbas really well in the first test and gave him just 2 wickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Won't, rather he'll get murdered if there is slight movement. I am his fan also, but not blind fanatic - I have seen him batting at 3 in AUS, and by any stress of imagination, those were not typical faster Aussie wickets.

    He is a good batsman in making, keep it to that level before facing Styen & Rabad on faster wickets.
    I was talking more about LOI

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    Only 8 balls into the NZ innings and they're at 6 an over obviously it will come down shortly.

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    Just imagine if Kiwis do reach 450 by tea on day 4 .... how PAK is going to approach 2nd innings.

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    Sarfarz was pretending to be agressive in declaartion but team approach is not sgressive,and he ahs to be blamed for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deewana Mastana View Post
    Because they didn't know themselves that they'll declare.
    Whatever, but seriously they are only going to win match because they won toss, I saw yesterday 2 session, on a wicket which was not spinning big or don't have any seam movement, they didn't go anywhere.
    I can understand if a wicket is turning square or wicket is green mamba but on this track this was a timid approach.
    Thank your god that you have a Yasir the great league, who will turn this match on his head and make this negative batting look like gold

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    Quote Originally Posted by shariqnoor View Post
    Sarfraz has made sure that the only way Pakistan wins this game is by bowling out NZ for under 260 here. What a pathetic batting display and the declaration even more so.
    I can see them tuk tukking in the 3rd inns unnecessarily then trying to up the anti and collapsing, leaving Newz in the hunt till the end.

    The logical thing to have done was to go for it in the 1st inns here when there isn't any pressure. Strange to say the least.


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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    I was talking more about LOI
    Doesn't change much - have seen him batting on 350 per AUS wickets also

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    Sarfarz was pretending to be agressive in declaartion but team approach is not sgressive,and he ahs to be blamed for that.
    I am not watching the game but I think Mickey declared..., if sarfaraz had plans of declaring he would have tried to up the run rate

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Doesn't change much - have seen him batting on 350 per AUS wickets also
    Does not abbas looks ordinary against Nz,I think NZ have done their home work.

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    There is nothing in the pitch. The pitch is super flat. Our batsmen played defensively because they are not capable to play with positive mindset. Be prepare to get big score from NZ

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    PAK should look to preserve pacers energy for old ball on this wicket. Today is fine, 10 overs left, but tomorrow Yasir has to bowl a lonnnnnng spell from one end.

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    Pakistan lost just 1 wicket in the whole day. This pitch is dead and a road. NZ would have to bat really poorly to not score 400 here as well. Pakistan's 3rd innings implosion is a given once NZ passes 418!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    Does not abbas looks ordinary against Nz,I think NZ have done their home work.
    This wicket is really killing everyone. Do you think PAK batsmen have worked out Boult also?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Doesn't change much - have seen him batting on 350 per AUS wickets also
    That was Babar 1.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    This wicket is really killing everyone. Do you think PAK batsmen have worked out Boult also?
    But that match where he got wickets against AUS was not different.

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    This is unbelievable and pathetic captaincy by Sarfraz.

    We have seen time and time again why Sarfraz should be stripped of captaincy and kicked out from the team.

    Any one with little bit of knowledge will tell you that you must accelerate before declaring when you have five wickets left.

    We worked so hard to get those runs and bat New Zealand out of the game but Sarfraz just brought them in the game by declaring early. If this was the plan then why on earth did they not only aggressively before declaring.

    He should be sacked immediately but my worry is that we may still win this match and this decision will be brushed aside.

    Sarfraz must go. He is not fit to be a leader and his batting was complete disgrace today.

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    Sarfraz: We will not repeat 1st Tests mistakes in the 2nd Test. Instead we will create new ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    But that match where he got wickets against AUS was not different.
    Aussies play aggressive cricket which doesn't suit such slow wickets, still he didn't get a single wicket on last Day of Dubai Test. Abu Dhabi wicket is gripping lot more than usual in both Tests, but Dubai is absolute disgrace.

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    Good idea to use Hafeez.

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    Looks like Hafeez bhai has got threatened with his own batting - trying to clutch on to all-rounder's route again? Inzi will need his support (of bowling) here after his batting display since that century.

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    Color of Yasir's beard is also like Leo !!!!

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    So Yasir doesn't even have trust on Bilal.

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    Looks like Bilal might be a handful on this pitch

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    I mean Sarfraz

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    Just one wicket for the whole day..speaks a lot about the wicket..definitely not test class

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    Every other time pakistan has batted 1st and batted 140+ overs in UAE they have got 500 at a run rate of 3+ . To score 400 in 5.5 sessions is pathetic.

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    Looks like it will be a draw or NZ will make pak to work in 2nd innings.

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    If Pakistan doesn't get kiwis bowled out tomorrow. The match will most likely end up in a draw


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    This match has proven how badly rattled Pakistan are by the nature of the defeat in the first game.

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    I thought Pakistan will bat 7 sessions, score 600 runs and declare or get all out. Not sure why and how they decided to declare this early without trying to get some quick runs.
    Last edited by Ab Fan; 25th November 2018 at 19:08.

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    Everyone in this thread will look pretty stupid if Pakistan goes on to win this test

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    Stupid declaration, should have scored 600 and avoid batting 2nd time altogether, this doesn't make any sense, unless they are super confident of bowling NZ out 2 times for around 400ish score but again if NZ set a target of 100 pak will struggle batting last.

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    Most demoralising & bore feasting Test in a weekend when F1 is in UAE. There canít be a worse advertisement of Test cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    Everyone in this thread will look pretty stupid if Pakistan goes on to win this test
    No, if PAK really win this Test, itíll make not tell how stupid PAK Managment is - almost allowed Kiwis a back door to save this Test. By any logic, you canít defend 418-5d in 167 overs, specially when captain himself was in middle for last 15 overs. And, this is after trailing 0-1 in a 3 Test series.

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    Too bad Pak got bowled under 200 again by those brilliant kiwis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    No, if PAK really win this Test, itíll make not tell how stupid PAK Managment is - almost allowed Kiwis a back door to save this Test. By any logic, you canít defend 418-5d in 167 overs, specially when captain himself was in middle for last 15 overs. And, this is after trailing 0-1 in a 3 Test series.
    The point is to win, yes? Or do we get extra points for looking pretty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    Everyone in this thread will look pretty stupid if Pakistan goes on to win this test
    Not everyone cries even when Pak do well. Pak bat deep and long - tears. Pak don't declare- tears. Pak declare- lots of tears.
    Humey tu mushkil halat pai rohna aya .
    Aeh Rohney waley tujhey kis baat pey rohna aya ?

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    As usual people are too judgemental on a Test match inside 2 days.

    Be patient, this wicket will suit Yasir Shah if he bowls straight and tight as well as reverse swing coming into play later on.

    New Zealand are on the back foot and they have to dig very hard even to get a draw from this stage.

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    It will not be easy for Pak playing a very good and fighting team. Latham, Taylor are due and Williamson has one big inning this series to deliver. Pak did well to pile up enough runs to give them something to bowl at. I would hope they can take 120 to 150 lead and then bat again setting stiff target for kiwis.


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