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    Tactical blunders from Mickey Arthur and Sarfaraz Ahmed

    Thing is when captain and coach are both involved in selection and they continue to do blunders its time for them to go.

    Its great that they are involved in everything but then they should also admit their mistakes by stepping down as the mistakes are being repeated again and again.

    Some of the mistakes are just bcz of lack of common sense shown and anybody who follows cricket even a little bit would have avoided atleast some of these mistakes.

    1) Playing 3 fast bowlers in UAE tests against Srl, when there are atleast 4-5 decent spinners in the ranks waiting and Srl played that series with 3 spinners in playing 11.

    Someone ask Mickey or Sarfraz, when was the last time any team won test series in UAE with just 1 spinner and 3 fast blowers in last decade or so?

    2) Going to Asia cup with just couple of spinners who were 19 and 23 years of age respectively. Atleast one experienced spinner should have been there from the likes of Kashif Bhatti and number of other experienced and talented spinners playing in first class , or even Zafar Gohar for that matter (Has more wickets than Shadab and Nawaz in FC) considering that Asia cup was in UAE and all the teams playing were from Asia who play spinners well. Having just two spinners in the squad and while none of them was a finished product.

    3) Making a 38 years old guy in Mohammad Hafeez to come back and that too as an opener where you need the most reflexes while facing the new ball.

    4) Selected Bilal Asif just bcz he was an off spinner and Aussies and NZ have a lot of left handers. This is a totally wrong approach, you need to select your best bowlers whether spinners or pacers according to the conditions and irrespective of the number of right handers or left handers opposition unless the contest is between two bowlers with almost similar caliber.

    I wouldnt have had an issue if Bilal was close to the likes of Zafar Gohar, Mohammad Asghar, Kashif Bhatti, Mohammad Irfan jnr etc but there is a gulf of difference between him and rest of these guys and FC stats show that.

    Yasir having no support and bowling so many overs bcz Bilal was ineffective most of the times resulted in extra pressure on every one.

    5) When the management knew that Bilal and Hafeez were a mistake (Post the 1st test match against Aussies where they both performed in a draw) they still sticked with them till the last match of NZ series.
    Yes if its a youngster like Imam I dont mind giving him a good run but giving so many opportunities to a 38 year old and 33 year old is just rigidness on part of the management.

    6) Which other teams have their one of the most experienced player batting at no 5 i.e Asad Shfaiq. Asad has been a free rider for too long, he should be batting in top 3 Azhar should ideally open considering lack of options and Asad should be 1 down otherwise 1 down is fine for Azhar max 2 down for Asad.

    If Asad Shafiq cant take the responsibility where senior players of other teams do then he should be shown the door.

    After the first match against NZ management should have made the required changes but they remained rigid in trying to prove they were right. Same was the case in Srl series where they repeated the same mistake in the 2nd match as well.

    We might as well have won the series if we would have won the first match but still the mistakes need someone to be answerable.

    Some decent performances from individual players can cover the lack of performances from free riders but when those performers are not in form the team struggles big time. To me Bilal and Hafeez were free riders in this series against NZ and Malik is a potential free rider in LOIs. He is 38 and doesnt look like winning a match single handedly against any good team or in any important match. Yes was a very good utility player, but considering he doesnt ball anymore, he is 38 and world cup is in Eng where he averages in mid 20s. I dont mind having a youngster who performs as poorly or even worse knowing that there is a chance that he might learn and improve unlike a guy who is lacking reflexes and is on verge of saying good bye.

    Yes its a sport where you lose some and win some but losing matches due to controllable factors i.e selection, strategy, common sense etc is an unpardonable offense.

    No matter how good a coach Mickey is or how great Srafaraz is as a captain. When you make number of mistakes managing a national team its time to do some soul searching. Even if they somehow compete well in SA, still the mistakes already made are enough for both of them to take some tough decisions.

    Yes a batsman can score ducks and bowler can go for runs, it happens but when you cant even make correct decisions outside the ground, before the series and in between the matches, you shouldn't be anywhere near any managerial position.

    Even loosing every single match is acceptable if you are selecting the right 11, making the right strategies, tactics and getting the most out of each player. NZ showed that, with two debutant spinners in Ajaz Patel and Sommoerville and tactics from Williamson were spot on. Excellent field placement and bowling changes. He was getting the wickets out of collin de grandomme in UAE, shows how much of a difference a good captain can make as well as coach in tactics, strategies and defining role of each player.
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    Batting at snail pace before surprised declaration was one of them. Brilliant Yasir spell saved them from this blunder otherwise taking two days to score just 400 could have been quite embarrassing.
    Last edited by MRSN; 8th December 2018 at 15:39.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSN View Post
    Batting at snail pace before surprised declaration was one of them. Brilliant Yasir spell saved them from this blunder otherwise taking two days to score just 400 could have been quite embarrassing.
    Totally, playing at the same slow SR even when some of these batsmen were set and should have taken the advantage was also a big mistake.

    Yasir was the one man army trying to save mickey and Sarfaraz with all their poor tactics and decisions in every match.
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    Single biggest one is the inability to win the toss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Single biggest one is the inability to win the toss.
    If you’re banking on the toss, then you’ve lost half the match already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSN View Post
    Batting at snail pace before surprised declaration was one of them. Brilliant Yasir spell saved them from this blunder otherwise taking two days to score just 400 could have been quite embarrassing.
    Yes, bears remembering we were lucky not to be whitewashed. One genius spell by Yasir saved us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Single biggest one is the inability to win the toss.
    I understand what you are saying. But, If you are dependent upon toss to win you games then the result is always gonna be 50-50 and something is needed to be done so that team is strong eough to compete whether bats first or last.

    Misbah never lost a series in UAE, surely he must have lost some tosses as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManFan View Post
    If you’re banking on the toss, then you’ve lost half the match already.
    The biggest factor was the toss, if they won 3 tosses they would have won 3 nil and vice versa. It's not a good team, the batting is one dimensional at the best of times and totally useless under pressure against any type of bowling under any conditions.

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    Not picking a specialist spinner has to be one of the biggest blunders. Also having faith in Imam in ODIs is another blunder.

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    Sufi a is an attacking batsman, as a captain he is negative, his ra ra ra every time at bowlers fielders and even his batting partners breads negativity, his desperation to have everything perfect is also a factor, I think he lacks in people management . A captain needs to be calm under pressure , he always seems to be on edge,which then transfers to the players

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    In reality there were only two technical blunders, playing Hafeez despite numerous failures and not selecting a better spinner than Bilal. The rest will always be attached with Pak inability to play under pressure and a weak tail.

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    Wish Yasir didn't bowl that spell, he saved sarfraz and Mickey some embarrassment

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakPremi View Post
    In reality there were only two technical blunders, playing Hafeez despite numerous failures and not selecting a better spinner than Bilal. The rest will always be attached with Pak inability to play under pressure and a weak tail.
    Yeah wasting reviews and plumb decisions being denier later wasn't? Please open your eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSN View Post
    Yeah wasting reviews and plumb decisions being denier later wasn't? Please open your eyes.
    There were only two reviews and the first one there was a clear noise every man and his dog thought it hit the bat. So I will not blame Sarfraz for that. The other one I did not see so cannot comment. When bowling he also took excellent reviews as well. I know he is not flavour of some posters at the moment but face the facts Pak team has always been an average batting team bar Younis Khan. So you can bring any of your darlings to keep wicket or captain results will be the same. Sarfraz has served Pakistan well and is much more dependable wicket keeper than Akmal or Rizwan.. the only issue is that he should not have been made to captain in tests as that is too much burden on him as it shows in his batting since being made captain.
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    Not having right players for right formats

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    having biased selectors at the top.

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    Each of a three to six scored a hundred but none could perform under pressure. I don’t know if we even have the batsman that can play big innings. But domestic performers must be rewarded. Fawad deserves a go but it will never happen. 30 First class hundreds is enough proof of consistency. I don’t care about batting techniques - it’s all about runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Single biggest one is the inability to win the toss.
    Toss should not matter for the home team. Pak team has been playing on these grounds for 10 years & the mgmt oughtta know how to play in the 4th innings here by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Single biggest one is the inability to win the toss.
    Agree here,


    In the last 5 years - 7 times Pakistan lost the toss in UAE

    Lost - 5 times
    Drew - 1 time
    Won - 1 times

    I even created a thread and compared with other teams. If Pakistan had won 3 tosses then NZ wouldn't have won this series.

    http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...n-recent-years


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    Quote Originally Posted by dildilpak View Post
    Toss should not matter for the home team. Pak team has been playing on these grounds for 10 years & the mgmt oughtta know how to play in the 4th innings here by now.
    Pakistan has won just one test in the last 5 years after losing toss in UAE. So in reality it's making a huge difference in outcome.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffet View Post
    Pakistan has won just one test in the last 5 years after losing toss in UAE. So in reality it's making a huge difference in outcome.
    He said “should”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManFan View Post
    He said “should”.
    My bad.

    I saw some article in ESPN about toss impacting results for all teams in current era. I know some one will bring Indians losing toss at home and still winning games. But Indians are too strong at home so even losing toss doesn't impact them that much. When gap is not that huge then toss becomes crucial.
    Last edited by Buffet; 9th December 2018 at 21:39.


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    Need to think of scoring around 500 in 1st inning everytime you loose the toss. No matter hows the situation is... 100 run lead is not enough.


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    selection selection selection

    I can kind of understand why Pakistani's (like Inzi and Sarfraz) who grew up in seniority culture wouldn't want to drop people like Shafiq and Hafeez. But surprised that even Mickey given in to this culture

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    Quote Originally Posted by dildilpak View Post
    Toss should not matter for the home team. Pak team has been playing on these grounds for 10 years & the mgmt oughtta know how to play in the 4th innings here by now.
    It shouldn't​ be it does for us because we have batsman that can't play under any sort of pressure irrespective of the quality of bowling

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    Quote Originally Posted by coy0607 View Post
    selection selection selection

    I can kind of understand why Pakistani's (like Inzi and Sarfraz) who grew up in seniority culture wouldn't want to drop people like Shafiq and Hafeez. But surprised that even Mickey given in to this culture
    Exactly, but Selection is Inzy’s responsibility - Mickey isn’t a Selector at all.

    Inzamam is the man who wasn’t smart enough at The Oval in 2006 to realise that the umpires meant it when they said to him “get onto the pitch and play or we will award the match to England”.

    Inzamam may be pious, but he has never shown the slightest sign of being smart enough to be left in charge of writing a cleaning roster, let alone selecting the side.

    As long as Inzamam remains Chief Selector, nothing will improve.

    Mickey And Sarfraz can’t do much when they get given such hopelessly inappropriate squads.


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