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  1. #561
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    who will sit for harris among these two, imam or shan, this is their chance, both future on line, and Fakhar is no sehwag nut is better than these two so should bat at 5 or 6 with old ball and tired bowlers he can be deadly, and azhar has to open with one of these two, Harry at 3, he is best player of pace in this squad, babar at 4, Fakhar 5 , asad at his favorite 6, ideally rizwan at 7, but specialist captain has to play, Shadab/Fahim pitch dependant, than Amir, Shaheen and abaas, play this team and series is ours, this simple common sense but our thick tink isn't bright enough. We always screw ourselves.


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  2. #562
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    Olivier and bouncers


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Shaan batting for every single sifarishi out there, it's beautiful.

  4. #564
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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketfan11 View Post
    His strength is not to play an innings like you would expect Hanif Mohammed to play. Surely he is played to score quick runs and relieve pressure? But in tests, when the team is constantly under pressure, he gets out of his comfort zone.
    Have to play ball on merit. He is not playing on a flat one in Dubai it is a 180 track and he needs to learn to grind it out when necessary. He is a professional cricketer.

    Shan looking awful too

  5. #565
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    What do you guys think will be defendable score


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    OK so in recent history we have not seen the best side of Masood. He has some qualities about him that can be vital for this side. I like the fact that he wants to play the shorter ball on the up due to his height. He Also seems to want to score instead of just survive.


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  7. #567
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Imam 30 off 40 balls and Fakhar 12 off 40, just goes to show he really wasnt looking to play according to the situation or the track. No game plan whatsoever. Dissapointing innings from him
    Fakhar is the type of batsman who will not hang around for more than say a 100 balls. It is up to him whether he wants to score 50+ in those 100 balls or 20, which is what tends to happen when he is not willing to play his natural game.

  8. #568
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    250

  9. #569
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asif321 View Post
    What do you guys think will be defendable score
    175+ but our bowlers will need to bowl their skin out, so 220+ would be a good one.

  10. #570
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    If these two can scratch around till the 30th over, we're set.

  11. #571
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asif321 View Post
    What do you guys think will be defendable score
    220 and SA will lose psychologically. Pakistan can back their bowlers to bowl them out for less than 150 tbh


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  12. #572
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    This olivier looks so strong he can bowl bouncers all day but our batsmen need to remain patient.

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    No more wickets until at least the end of the session.


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  14. #574
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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    His dismissal today was plain stupid. He had done all the hard work and survived the testing period. Momentum was with Pakistan but he gave it away immediately.
    Agreed but he might gonna have such dissmisals in future as well. That is how he plays and is at his best this way.

    Yes looked ugly with this shot but bcz he can change the game in the favor of his team on his day, so either we have him with his strengths and weaknesses or we dont have him. Personally I would take a game changer any day.
    Last edited by Titan24; 27th December 2018 at 16:18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasimjunior View Post
    Have to play ball on merit. He is not playing on a flat one in Dubai it is a 180 track and he needs to learn to grind it out when necessary. He is a professional cricketer.

    Shan looking awful too
    Agreed, play the ball on merit, but play according to your strengths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Our best test opener. Just be a bit patient.
    True.

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    Sky need to get Holding and Nicholas to commentate together, rather than rotating them!

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    200+ will be good.In Ind vs SA series 200+ was defended always in 4th innings

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    ?
    Why is he still playing and booked the spot for next game


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    Steyn to continue


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    Quote Originally Posted by imshally81 View Post
    Why is he still playing and booked the spot for next game
    What is your issue here man? The guy is fighting for Pakistan, not for himself!


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    This will be 60-3 shortly

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    Every run is gonna put SA under pressure

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    69.6% of Pakistan's runs in 1st innings were in boundaries
    63.6% of SA's runs in 1st innings were in boundaries
    72% of Pakistan's runs in 2nd innings are in boundaries so far.

    Can't imagine any other Test match having a higher ratio than that.

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    Steyn with a beauty.

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    Steyn still has the pace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Agreed but he might gonna have such dissmisals in future as well. That is how he plays and is at his best this way.

    Yes looked ugly with this shot but bcz he can change the game in the favor of his team on his day, so either we have him with his strengths and weaknesses or we dont have him. Personally I would take a game changer any day.
    i would have him but 5 or 6 specially in SENA countries,,, Thats best for both him and team,,,


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    Unplayable that ball!


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    Slips are a bit far.

    Should come forward for Styen and Rabada not Olivier though.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    We just need to avoid losing wickets now then bowlers will naturally tire out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    Sky need to get Holding and Nicholas to commentate together, rather than rotating them!
    It's not Sky. It's Supersport. Sky just broadcast their feed.

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    Knuckle down boys, they will have to change Steyn in about 4 overs from now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    We just need to avoid losing wickets now then bowlers will naturally tire out.
    Yes but on this wicket I dont think you can survive for long without intent of scoring runs.

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    Slowed down a bit here,


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    This is not the same pitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asif321 View Post
    What do you guys think will be defendable score
    I'd say anywhere between 220-250 is a must for Pakistan. 250+ would be a HUGE bonus and with so much time in the game, they can actually grind the side down like they would on a Dubai track. Leave everything outside off, wear a few to the body, get the bowlers straighter and then clip them down the leg side.

    There is just so much time in the game for them to do it, just about application and mental fortitude now.

  37. #597
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    Quote Originally Posted by shariqnoor View Post
    69.6% of Pakistan's runs in 1st innings were in boundaries
    63.6% of SA's runs in 1st innings were in boundaries
    72% of Pakistan's runs in 2nd innings are in boundaries so far.

    Can't imagine any other Test match having a higher ratio than that.
    This is the norm in challenging low scoring wickets.

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    Sifarish brothers in the middle fighting for who will stay and who'll be kicked out for Haris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    Knuckle down boys, they will have to change Steyn in about 4 overs from now.
    Then Rabada will come, there will be no easy overs. Pak needs to play the ball on merit and dont need to let loose balls away

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    SA choking with the fielding also


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    Here to point out Ntini should be doing the commentary

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    Good shot again from Imam. First six of the innings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barah_admi View Post
    I'd say anywhere between 220-250 is a must for Pakistan. 250+ would be a HUGE bonus and with so much time in the game, they can actually grind the side down like they would on a Dubai track. Leave everything outside off, wear a few to the body, get the bowlers straighter and then clip them down the leg side.

    There is just so much time in the game for them to do it, just about application and mental fortitude now.
    We have to keep weather also in mind.May have to bat a bit faster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Then Rabada will come, there will be no easy overs. Pak needs to play the ball on merit and dont need to let loose balls away
    No, Rabada will come Oliviers end

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    Hey Jazba Junoon to himat na haar.......

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    Wah imam he has booked his place for this series


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    Quote Originally Posted by Asif321 View Post
    What do you guys think will be defendable score
    The highest 4th innings chase came in 2000 when England chased down 249 (the Hansie Cronje Test).

    The highest chase after that was in 1998 when SAF chased down 226 against SRL.

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    What a shot!


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    Damn good shot from Imam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Yes but on this wicket I dont think you can survive for long without intent of scoring runs.
    this, make your stay count,,, playing time is not of any help here,,, there will always be one with your name sooner than later on this pitch.


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    Wow Six

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    Ball will stop swinging after 20 overs....


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    I know it's a bit early but I think sarfaraz needs to the his arrival to match that of Mr Maharaj and start upping the ante and not letting him settle. That will probably be an hour after tea.
    inshaAllah that means a promotion and not a demotion


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    No, Rabada will come Oliviers end
    So Mahraj is gonna come at Steyn’s end? It would be slightly early

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    Very, very impressed by Imam. Well done. Gutsy knock, credit where its due.

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    So much for Pakistan dont play the short ball well. Take that Haysman!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Asif321 View Post
    Wah imam he has booked his place for this series
    His place is safe now for even next series

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    Imam looks a much better player when he shows intent rather than merely accumulating time at the crease.

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    Lord Imam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    So Mahraj is gonna come at Steyn’s end? It would be slightly early
    Challenge will be to keep fast bowlers on as long as possible, it’s a hot day, should benefit Pakistan if they hold on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saffer_XIII View Post
    Steyn still has the pace
    Still has at least a good 3 years of prime in him. He's bowling as well as he ever has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asif321 View Post
    Wah imam he has booked his place for this series

    He is a decent talent and we dont a have many better openers then him especially in tests. Its him, Shan, Abid, Sami Aslam. He has shown more guts than some others

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adijazz1706 View Post
    Sifarish brothers in the middle fighting for who will stay and who'll be kicked out for Haris
    But what if both score 50s , Fakhar will have to sit out,,,who would have thought,,, but he has only himself to blame,,,


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    Ntini is so well loved. We need him as an ambassador for PSL


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    Olivier economy rate above 4.Should finish his career also

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspin View Post
    Imam looks a much better player when he shows intent rather than merely accumulating time at the crease.
    It is like when he keeps on playing, scoring and thinking he's good. As soon as he stops thinking and get stuck he gets out.


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    Kind of stage where You expect guys like to Steyn to turn it around

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Ntini is so well loved. We need him as an ambassador for PSL
    Mascot. He is an awful commentator

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressPacer View Post
    Still has at least a good 3 years of prime in him. He's bowling as well as he ever has.
    I think he can reserve these good years to maximise his earnings outside of International cricket. Not much more to be gained in Tests really


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    I know commentators are saying it’s a pitch when no one is ever in, but this seems like an easy pitch now.

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    Imam looking well set for a big innings.

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    Bavuma looks like a shorter version of Issac Hayes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    I think he can reserve these good years to maximise his earnings outside of International cricket. Not much more to be gained in Tests really
    Yeah, but Steyn is one of the few purists left in Test cricket. I think he's eyeing McGrath's record, and rightly so! He deserves it. You can make big bucks playing leagues and maybe even County but to further his status as a legend, Tests are the way to go.

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    No demons in the pitch.

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    Imam capitalising on SA’s mistakes. Only way I will forgive this guy for all the pain he has caused is if he scores a 100 Inshallah.

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    Hopefully Imam can push on for the ton.

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    Shan should open in next test with Imam

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    Maharaj and Yasir must feel pretty useless in this game.

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    All Imam dislikers? Who do you think should be in the team instead of a 23 year old opener who was amongst the top openers of last years FC season and probably youngest lf that lot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressPacer View Post
    Yeah, but Steyn is one of the few purists left in Test cricket. I think he's eyeing McGrath's record, and rightly so! He deserves it. You can make big bucks playing leagues and maybe even County but to further his status as a legend, Tests are the way to go.
    True, and he will be valued as a high end analyst. Very good vocal skills and plenty of reputation to back it up with


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