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  1. #641
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    Dare I say it, South Africa look short of inspiration

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    I’m very surprised ever since the first ball in the first innings Shan Masood has showed positive intent to make runs and now in the second innings constantly looking to rotate the strike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saffer_XIII View Post
    Maharaj and Yasir must feel pretty useless in this game.

    Yasir bowled some really poor deliveries otherwise Sarfaraz would have presisted him for few more overs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saffer_XIII View Post
    Maharaj and Yasir must feel pretty useless in this game.
    Its not a question of if, its a question of when will they bowl. Its only day 2 and the stage is being set for a result. Yasir may bowl a couple in the last innings, may bowl many. Tricky situation for both captains so far


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    Need to make these bowlers toil hard in this heat.


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    Key is to not loose wickets in tandem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    Dare I say it, South Africa look short of inspiration
    They have run out of gas like Ab

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressPacer View Post
    Still has at least a good 3 years of prime in him. He's bowling as well as he ever has.
    I think he can make 100 tests if he plays until England tour of SA next summer. A good 2 or 3 more years gives him 500 wickets. He deserves it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    True, and he will be valued as a high end analyst. Very good vocal skills and plenty of reputation to back it up with
    Exactly. Frankly, I think he's Head coach material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iPakistani View Post
    I’m very surprised ever since the first ball in the first innings Shan Masood has showed positive intent to make runs and now in the second innings constantly looking to rotate the strike.
    Looks like number of Pak A series did him good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Agreed but he might gonna have such dissmisals in future as well. That is how he plays and is at his best this way.

    Yes looked ugly with this shot but bcz he can change the game in the favor of his team on his day, so either we have him with his strengths and weaknesses or we dont have him. Personally I would take a game changer any day.
    I think we are talking past each other.

    Having an attacking minded batsman in your side is great, and you are right you have to take the rough with the smooth. But that isn't what happened here.

    The best players learn to read the match situation and adapt accordingly.

    Fakhar had done the hard work. He had played ugly but most importantly had survived a very testing period. Having done that he should have looked at the match situation:

    South Africa were on the back foot and desperate for a wicket. Runs were beginning to leak, largely thanks to Imam's efforts.

    So the last thing you do is gift your wicket away, especially when you have been struggling to find the middle of the bat. It's no good saying that's how he plays. You earn the right to play like that and the best players adapt according to the match situation.

    I like Fakhar so you don't need to convince me on that, but his dismissal today was poor. I'm sure Mickey will be saying something similar, but more importantly I think Fakhar already knows and would agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspin View Post
    This is the norm in challenging low scoring wickets.
    True but wasn't the case in the Joburg test with India vs SA. There the boundary ratio was about 40-50%.

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    Not convinced of steyns fitness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saffer_XIII View Post
    I think he can make 100 tests if he plays until England tour of SA next summer. A good 2 or 3 more years gives him 500 wickets. He deserves it.
    He deserves to be ahead of Anderson, if anything, who himself is a great bowler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saffer_XIII View Post
    Maharaj and Yasir must feel pretty useless in this game.
    Hence why we need Shadab back to replace Yasir in order to strengthen the lower order and tail.

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    Bavuma is Quick!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Ntini is so well loved. We need him as an ambassador for PSL
    Well loved by whom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saffer_XIII View Post
    I think he can make 100 tests if he plays until England tour of SA next summer. A good 2 or 3 more years gives him 500 wickets. He deserves it.

    He deserves it. But, I think Rabada is the one who might break many records as is still very young and already is eying 200 wickets.

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    Shan is really good at taking singles.A rarity in PCT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    Not convinced of steyns fitness
    He's bowling at 90 miles an hour consistently without any hints of breaking down. A much younger Olivier on the other hand already looks tired.

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    Bias commentators. They want SA to win


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gullycricket View Post
    Shan is really good at taking singles.A rarity in PCT
    Truly the only cricketer we have who can be compared to guys like Kohli, Anderson, Stokes in fitness terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressPacer View Post
    He's bowling at 90 miles an hour consistently without any hints of breaking down. A much younger Olivier on the other hand already looks tired.
    Yup, fair pushback. Looks labored a bit

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    Shan is really good going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressPacer View Post
    Truly the only cricketer we have who can be compared to guys like Kohli, Anderson, Stokes in fitness terms.
    If he has fixed his previous technical glares, he deserves an ODI spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    Well loved by whom?
    By the South African public. Listening to him you can tell that the guy is pure banter and joy


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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    I think we are talking past each other.

    Having an attacking minded batsman in your side is great, and you are right you have to take the rough with the smooth. But that isn't what happened here.

    The best players learn to read the match situation and adapt accordingly.

    Fakhar had done the hard work. He had played ugly but most importantly had survived a very testing period. Having done that he should have looked at the match situation:

    South Africa were on the back foot and desperate for a wicket. Runs were beginning to leak, largely thanks to Imam's efforts.

    So the last thing you do is gift your wicket away, especially when you have been struggling to find the middle of the bat. It's no good saying that's how he plays. You earn the right to play like that and the best players adapt according to the match situation.

    I like Fakhar so you don't need to convince me on that, but his dismissal today was poor. I'm sure Mickey will be saying something similar, but more importantly I think Fakhar already knows and would agree.
    Totally, cant agree more.

    I was just saying that with an agressive mindset especially when you are new to test level such dismissals can happen. It was just his 2nd test, hopefully he will improve on it.

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    Let’s go tea without any wicket


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    These leaves from Imam to deliveries outside off stump is as important as some of his strokeplay. Impressed with his discipline so far.

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    affectively 32-1


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    By the South African public. Listening to him you can tell that the guy is pure banter and joy
    Agree. Was just double checking that's what you meant.

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    Faf is biting Nails.Who would have thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Totally, cant agree more.

    I was just saying that with an agressive mindset especially when you are new to test level such dismissals can happen. It was just his 2nd test, hopefully he will improve on it.
    Fully expect him to insha'Allah. He is a very hard worker and eager to learn.

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    Almost all of Imam's better performances have come under pressure

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    I so wish we could produce a unit of a guy like Rabada to bowl heat for us!


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    Here we go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    I so wish we could produce a unit of a guy like Rabada to bowl heat for us!
    I wish for a bowler like Bumrah tbh

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    Time for Spin. Faf feeling the pressure


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    Maharaj reprieve on. Just milk the guy


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    I so wish we could produce a unit of a guy like Rabada to bowl heat for us!
    Makes it look so effortless. Just glides in.

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    Brilliant Masood!


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    50 for Imam.

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    This is the first fifty by a Pakistan opening batsman in SA since Imran Farhat in 2007

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    What a range of emotions i’ve had to go through over the last two days.

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    If Shafiq fails in this innings, I would drop him for Haris.

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    Well done Imam, keep going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    What a range of emotions i’ve had to go through over the last two days.
    Test cricket at its finest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arham_PakFan View Post
    This is the first fifty by a Pakistan opening batsman in SA since Imran Farhat in 2007
    From farhat to imam, there’s poetry of circumstance there.

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    Shabash Imam! we need another 50 from you.


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    Very well made 50!

    keep going buddy, stay humble!


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    An option might be dropping Imam for Shaan for odi's. (never thought I would say this)

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    Perfect opportunity for these two to get a big partnership going. You won't find a good batting situations in this test


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    Would be disappointed if we dont get a lead of 230/250+ from now on.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Well done Imam. Got some luck with the drop catch but he's made the most of it and you need a little luck against such a high quality bowling attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspin View Post
    If Shafiq fails in this innings, I would drop him for Haris.
    I think the clear swap is Fakhar for Harris. Masood opens and Harris at 3


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    What is your issue here man? The guy is fighting for Pakistan, not for himself!
    Next 2 Matches + 2 more test Series...... he will haunt us......
    Did you forget his performance in last test series against NZ??


    Hey Jazba Junoon to himat na haar.......

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    wow with Imam fifty we will have selection headaches when Harris returns

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    They’ll bring a part timer after Rabada or if they get till tea, then in the last part of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gullycricket View Post
    We have to keep weather also in mind.May have to bat a bit faster
    Ah yes, the rain. With that in mind, it only helps Pakistan get closer to a draw, which was unthinkable for half of yesterday.

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    Greame Smith saying big things for the current situation.

    "as a batter you fail more than you succeed"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    I so wish we could produce a unit of a guy like Rabada to bowl heat for us!
    We dont have them African genetics

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    Quote Originally Posted by imshally81 View Post
    Next 2 Matches + 2 more test Series...... he will haunt us......
    Did you forget his performance in last test series against NZ??
    Doesn't matter.This innings matters

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    Quote Originally Posted by imshally81 View Post
    Next 2 Matches + 2 more test Series...... he will haunt us......
    Did you forget his performance in last test series against NZ??
    I would rather guys haunt us after scoring against South Africa in South Africa than by filling their boots against Zimbabwe (Khurram Manzoor) or Sri Lanka (Hafeez)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amirforpresident View Post
    We dont have them African genetics

    Wot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amirforpresident View Post
    We dont have them African genetics
    But we have Pathan genetics


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    I think the clear swap is Fakhar for Harris. Masood opens and Harris at 3
    Fakhar is worth the investment especially given the fact he's the only opener who bats at a good tempo. Dropping him after one bad game is cruel after such a good debut test.

    In Asia he's a certainty given that he is the best Pakistani against spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    Wot?
    You wont see a pakistani with the build of Rabada that often

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    Props on those who spotted Shan playing well in the first innings

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    Amazing what a little bit of intent does.

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    Honestly Shan seems even better player than Haris with his fitness

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspin View Post
    Fakhar is worth the investment especially given the fact he's the only opener who bats at a good tempo. Dropping him after one bad game is cruel after such a good debut test.

    In Asia he's a certainty given that he is the best Pakistani against spin.
    Haris’s test career is toast

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    Shan looks a diff player, has he been scoring heavily in domestics? Like with Amir itís good to see to the improvement..

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspin View Post
    Fakhar is worth the investment especially given the fact he's the only opener who bats at a good tempo.
    Not stating a view as to who should be dropped, but FYI both Imam and Shan have batted at a better tempo than Fakhar this test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amirforpresident View Post
    You wont see a pakistani with the build of Rabada that often
    Build with equal athleticism. For instance Shoaib Akhtar had the former but not the latter.

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    I was amazed to see Shan Masood in the 1st Innings. Looks a totally different batsman now. No wonder his list A runs weren't fluke


    If you Can Believe In Something, Than why not believe In Yourself.

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    Shaan has been good might be blessing in disguise
    Haris injury


    New Era of Team Pakistan

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    Not stating a view as to who should be dropped, but FYI both Imam and Shan have batted at a better tempo than Fakhar this test.
    Fakhar has a 60+ SR in FC cricket and has the best stats of all the openers.

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    If i have a choice i will drop Shafiq and put Fakhar at # 6.

    Have seen enough of Asad and he has disappointed 90% of the time.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspin View Post
    Fakhar is worth the investment especially given the fact he's the only opener who bats at a good tempo. Dropping him after one bad game is cruel after such a good debut test.

    In Asia he's a certainty given that he is the best Pakistani against spin.
    Realistically then they should play the same team or have Fakhar bat at 5/6 once Shafiq is dropped.


    "The Indian bowling attack is as devastating as the Teletubbies"- Sir Ian Botham

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspin View Post
    Fakhar has a 60+ SR in FC cricket and has the best stats of all the openers.
    His technique is abysmal in these conditions


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