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    Quote Originally Posted by abhay View Post
    pakistan should do something to stop the flow of runs
    This is a fast scoring ground. Placement is enough to get a boundary.

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    New ball taken.

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    I wouldn't want to play under a captain like Sarfraz. He is way too critical of every little things on the field and very vocal about it.

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    I cant understand why Abbas without the new ball now?

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    finally new ball taken... at least now lets see some real action

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    Need to utilize this new ball.Otherwise no hope of getting them out.

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    75 mph from Abbas.


    'There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold'

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    Quote Originally Posted by arunpsm View Post
    I cant understand why Abbas without the new ball now?
    He has the new ball only

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    Let's get one before tea inshaAllah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    75 mph from Abbas.
    Wait for SA to get another 50-100, the batsmen will advance down the track to belt him. Sarfaraz will have to stand up to the stumps. This is what happens when you don't have a bare minimum pace.

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    Bowlers bowling at rapid 130s. Wow

    Slowly but surely South Africa are creeping with the lead. Just hundred more runs and they'll be set for an innings victory

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sachin136 View Post
    You can be happy knowing that an Asian team is finally winning a series in Australia.
    Any other asian team would have made me happy , its india you know.


    It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreadPakoda View Post
    He has the new ball only
    oh ok... learnt that he took it in the middle of the over.

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    Wonder if it was Sarfraz or Micky or both that wanted Yasir and Shafiq in for this test instead of Faheem and rizwan.

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    281/4
    Tea.

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    Good session for SA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TM Riddle View Post
    Lol why won't you take new ball when it has been available for some 2-3 overs now?
    Pathetic captaincy.
    I would sack him on the spot for this.

    Itís an Instant Dismissal offence, like Misbah opening the Test bowling at Sydney with Yasir Shah.

    Iíd be sending out the team after Tea with the new captain in charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blistering Barnacle View Post
    Wonder if it was Sarfraz or Micky or both that wanted Yasir and Shafiq in for this test instead of Faheem and rizwan.
    Stop hyping players who are not playing. They are not that great either.Selection is not the issue.Overall lack of talent is the issue.

    Amir is bowling at 129 with no movement , what can captain and coach do.

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    Aamir bowling 128-131 kph. Good lines and lengths though.


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    You know your bowling department is in tatters when even hacks like Bavuma are allowed to score for fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Aamir bowling 128-131 kph. Good lines and lengths though.
    It's not a seeming condition and neither is he bowling the good line length constantly. Easy to negotiate at this speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadaja View Post
    Stop hyping players who are not playing. They are not that great either.Selection is not the issue.Overall lack of talent is the issue.

    Amir is bowling at 129 with no movement , what can captain and coach do.
    Not hyping them.

    Fact is this core team has been beaten in 13 out of the last 20 tests, and have also lost the last two tests.

    With a consistently failing batting line up, there should be some changes.

    And as for Yasir, I'm a big fan, but Faheem would have been more useful. His average of around 30 in first class cricket with the bat and 27 with the ball may have meant we would have scored a few more runs and possibly gotten a breakthrough or two with his bowling. He performed well in England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faisalabadimunda View Post
    Saf did their homework where as pak didnt. Simple as that. To top it up we have one of the worst arrogant captains who has no cricketing brain
    Micky Arthur must be wondering why he always gets non homework doing teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh View Post
    It's not a seeming condition and neither is he bowling the good line length constantly. Easy to negotiate at this speed.
    Still look at that economy. Only 2.38 . He can hold one end and bowl all day at 130-135 kph and keep the run down. but they already have a metronome in Abbas. That's the problem. No genuine strike bowlers.


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    double post

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    Resident experts need to understand one thing about South Africa, bowlers will always be in the game. Hence you take it session by session here (even an hour at a time), bowlers are allowed to bowl well and dominate. First session belonged to Pakistan, post lunch it's been all South Africa. The next session will decide the match and series. Faf is a gun captain, I believe we know our own conditions better than fly by night experts who've been watching SA cricket post the #1 ranking era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreadPakoda View Post
    Good decision. The pacers need rest.

    Asad can bowl a few.
    Quote Originally Posted by TM Riddle View Post
    Lol why won't you take new ball when it has been available for some 2-3 overs now?
    Pathetic captaincy.
    Quote Originally Posted by ARK Rafay View Post
    Bowlers bowling at rapid 130s. Wow

    Slowly but surely South Africa are creeping with the lead. Just hundred more runs and they'll be set for an innings victory
    The quicks have been totally overbowled due to the moronic decision to leave out Faheem Ashraf.

    They have been bowled into the ground so that the team can carry that passenger Yasir Shah around South Africa as a specialist batsman.

    I was in South Africa for the Australia series last March. Iíve been saying ever since ďFour Quicks, Shadab in place of Yasir ShahĒ.

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    Just donít get why they didnít play faheem ashraf and shadab in place of shafiq and yasir. Batting is your weakest link and you decide to go with an extra bowler that being a spinner and a out of form batsman. Smh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    The quicks have been totally overbowled due to the moronic decision to leave out Faheem Ashraf.

    They have been bowled into the ground so that the team can carry that passenger Yasir Shah around South Africa as a specialist batsman.

    I was in South Africa for the Australia series last March. I’ve been saying ever since “Four Quicks, Shadab in place of Yasir Shah”.
    Agree. Picking Yasir was a foolish decision.

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    A yard pace is more needed here to extract something out of the pitch. Pakistan fast bowlers just put the ball hoping pitch would do some tricks. Once the sun starts beating down onus is on the bowler to extract something out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JibranAnsari View Post
    Any other asian team would have made me happy , its india you know.
    Well, you can be happy of the fact we have been the pioneers of Asian cricket and the rest followed, so someday u guys can win too ;)

    The first to win series in Eng, NZ, WI and most probably Aus
    Last edited by Sanzcool; 4th January 2019 at 18:53.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreadPakoda View Post
    Agree. Picking Yasir was a foolish decision.
    Something to do with South Africa's horrible batting in Srilanka? They are always vulnerale against spin. But i gotta say Yasir shah's speeds are not suitable here. They have loads of time. You need to be a bit quicker here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    Something to do with South Africa's horrible batting in Srilanka? They are always vulnerale against spin. But i gotta say Yasir shah's speeds are not suitable here. They have loads of time. You need to be a bit quicker here.
    Then bowl him enough. If nothing else, he will give some rest to the pacers.

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    Playing a four men pace pronged attack on a decent deck dictated that SA bowl first when the wicket had some juice. Faf was vindicated taking 5 wickets before lunch and dismissing the opposition in two sessions. Makes no sense playing four quicks and not bowl them in ideal bowling conditions, no sense whatsoever.

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    Wahab Riaz kind of bowlers are needed to rattle this line up. Just fast, straight and at the throat of batsmen.

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    One thing is for sure that in South Africa. Pacers will have assistance from conditions and pitch. But you're not sure whether it is spin or not. So why gamble with playing Yasir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    Wahab Riaz kind of bowlers are needed to rattle this line up. Just fast, straight and at the throat of batsmen.
    Like Oli'ph'ier. Phast and Satraight

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    "Always"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Still look at that economy. Only 2.38 . He can hold one end and bowl all day at 130-135 kph and keep the run down. but they already have a metronome in Abbas. That's the problem. No genuine strike bowlers.
    Agreed ..one dimensional attack. Not able to get nasty bounce from pitch which is helpful.

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    Spinners need a mountain of runs to be effective here. Unless they happen to be world class Warne and Swann

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    Pak after this test would have lost 14 of the last 21 tests. A truely horrific stat

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    Pak's best bet to pick wicket is Abbas only, as he is only one looking threatening on this wicket. but knowing sarfi baba he will remove him from attack only after 2-3 overs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    The quicks have been totally overbowled due to the moronic decision to leave out Faheem Ashraf.

    They have been bowled into the ground so that the team can carry that passenger Yasir Shah around South Africa as a specialist batsman.

    I was in South Africa for the Australia series last March. I’ve been saying ever since “Four Quicks, Shadab in place of Yasir Shah”.
    Team selection is fine, you are talking as if Fahim Ahsraf is second coming of Imran Khan.They need six batsmen.Yasir is far better than Shadab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadaja View Post
    Team selection is fine, you are talking as if Fahim Ahsraf is second coming of Imran Khan.They need six batsmen.Yasir is far better than Shadab.
    This mentality is why Pakistan has lost 13 out of the last 20 tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadaja View Post
    Team selection is fine, you are talking as if Fahim Ahsraf is second coming of Imran Khan.They need six batsmen.Yasir is far better than Shadab.
    Rizwan has been in great form and he should have been picked over Asad.

    This track is not suited for a bowler like Yasir and Faheem should have been picked over him for his all-round abilities and being able to be a threat at the same time as giving the other bowlers a rest (as Yasir is doing).

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    I think that now, whenever Pakistan bats, it will be just to book a place in the third test. The result of this test is pretty much a foregone conclusion, though I'd love to be proven wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blistering Barnacle View Post
    This mentality is why Pakistan has lost 13 out of the last 20 tests.
    what mentality are you talking about? These are the best players available for selection.Dropping either Asad or Azhar means ending their careers. You just don't do that unless you have something better.

    Talent level in general is the problem not the team selection.

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    Are Pakistani bowlers saving themselves(speeds and aggression) for SL series in October
    Last edited by Josh; 4th January 2019 at 19:13.

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    Thera reminds me of SRT, but he's much more clutch.

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    Ok so new ball isnt helpful either.
    Waiting for SA to take pity and declare.

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    This match is now over . 33 overs remain in the day & hosts would be around 400 by close . Would you like to declare at say 375 & have a shy for 10 overs today ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadaja View Post
    what mentality are you talking about? These are the best players available for selection.Dropping either Asad or Azhar means ending their careers. You just don't do that unless you have something better.

    Talent level in general is the problem not the team selection.
    How do you know if you have something better if you won't try anyone out?

    What has Asad or even Azhar for that matter averaged in this series? Have they played any innings of note? Particularly Asad. It's not about ending their careers. It's about doing what's best for the team.

    Your arguments have nothing to do with performance. Just simply stating they are the best does not make it true.

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    Abbas who was getting wickets for fun on dcile UAE tracks is looking harmless that is the bigger problem.Amir not able to do anything is the bigger problem.

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    Pathetic performance by the team once again.

    Bas inko muft kai paise dedo aur T20 leagues kai contract dedo in players ko.

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    This test is all but gone. The body language tells as much. An innings defeat is certain, now the margin of the innings defeat is the only question. Faf can declare now and still win the game, that's how bad things are at the moment.

    Think this series should be the last we see of Asad Shafiq atleast.

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    Pitch has some cracks. Pakistan is hopeful of hitting one crack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadaja View Post
    Abbas who was getting wickets for fun on dcile UAE tracks is looking harmless that is the bigger problem.Amir not able to do anything is the bigger problem.
    New ball is bigger problem. One has to make better use of Kookaburra in SAF/AUS when new, but new ball skills of PAK pacers are almost finished.

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    'Shukar hai iski 125 ki speed gai thi'
    Who was that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post

    Think this series should be the last we see of Asad Shafiq atleast.
    I expect a good score for him in a losing cause to save his place.

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    What is Amir's strike rate since his return to tests?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blistering Barnacle View Post
    How do you know if you have something better if you won't try anyone out?

    What has Asad or even Azhar for that matter averaged in this series? Have they played any innings of note? Particularly Asad. It's not about ending their careers. It's about doing what's best for the team.

    Your arguments have nothing to do with performance. Just simply stating they are the best does not make it true.
    It is not kindergarten where you can chop and change players as you wish. Those two were supposed to be successors of Younis and Misbah. They are in the team for decade and you are saying take them out and try somebody who is not exactly a prodigy or has some geat FC stats.He averages around 41 and you expect him to come and do better than these guys.

    Players outside the team are not always better.Stop craving for changes just for the sake of change.

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    Ball takes off from some of the cracks.

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    Good over from amir finally

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    If this new ball donít reach to Vernon, SAF will bat once and probably wonít lose 10 wickets. This was always on cards when a team is 5 down by first lunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    What is Amir's strike rate since his return to tests?
    More than 70 i think.

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    There is still good carry here & enough in the deck to keep good pacers in business . This partnership is now close to 47 overs & i do not think there have been enough problems created by the bowlers .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadaja View Post
    Those two were supposed to be successors of Younis and Misbah.
    Supposed to be but both have averaged in 30s since Younis and Misbah retired.

    Azhar I give a break to because he was probably the best batsman in the team for quite a while before the others retired.

    Shafiq I don't give a break to. He averages 38 despite playing tons of cricket in the UAE.

    You want to keep losing tests because they were supposed to be successors of YK and Misbah? You want to keep making the wrong selections for the sake of it because "this isn't kindergarten"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blistering Barnacle View Post
    Supposed to be but both have averaged in 30s since Younis and Misbah retired.

    Azhar I give a break to because he was probably the best batsman in the team for quite a while before the others retired.

    Shafiq I don't give a break to. He averages 38 despite playing tons of cricket in the UAE.

    You want to keep losing tests because they were supposed to be successors of YK and Misbah? You want to keep making the wrong selections for the sake of it because "this isn't kindergarten"?
    Shafiq has to get this series , if he fails he will go.I don't see anyone better than him sitting outside.

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    Interesting to learn this tactic of batsmen showing exaggerated reaction to odd balls .

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    Review time.

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    Lol

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    Themba destined for a century


    Forever Proteas

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    Not out.
    So irritating.

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    Few inches saved Bavuma.

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    Tampered DRS. How did that miss ?


    'There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold'

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    Quote Originally Posted by soso_killer View Post
    Lol
    😀 Even luck is not supporting Pakistan now.

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    He just tries to dart back every ball.

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    Big lol at the players faces.
    Time par batting krlyty na tum saray.

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    On this end there are lot of tricks happening on the pitch. Some darts back fast. Some takes off. Some keeps low.

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    Game being set up nicely for another pointless ton in a losing cause from Papa Shafiq to save his spot.


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