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    [VIDEO] Yasir Shah's loss of ability to spin the ball since 2016

    Bw 2014 - 2016 Yasir Shah got tremendous turn on the ball watch his dismissals of Mark Craig, Correy Anderson, David Warner, Tamim Iqbal, Gary Balance etc. All these players got huge spinning deliveries which spun a long way in order to bowl the batsman through the gate.

    However from the second England test onwards in 2016 Yasir has been bowled to the ground by the Pakistani captains and has had to shoulder an insane workload and bowl 40 plus overs in England, UAE, Australia and the end result is that you have a bowler who looks tired and who is no longer going through his bowling action with the same energy and fizz and end result is less revolutions and spin on the ball.

    Thank you to the team management for mis managing their main bowler and not giving him the cushion of a 5th and 6th bowler to manage his work load and to prevent him from running into fitness issues

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    In UAE, I can without doubt say, he would spin the bowl more than Ashwin, Jadeja or Yadav. Hes an amazing bowler but picking him on fast bowling friendly pitches is undermining his skills. Shane Warne didnt call him the best spinner in the world for no reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakaz View Post
    In UAE, I can without doubt say, he would spin the bowl more than Ashwin, Jadeja or Yadav. Hes an amazing bowler but picking him on fast bowling friendly pitches is undermining his skills. Shane Warne didnt call him the best spinner in the world for no reason.
    Warne gets off on any decent leggie that he sees. Yasir has not really kicked on from the hype Warne gave him to be honest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Warne gets off on any decent leggie that he sees. Yasir has not really kicked on from the hype Warne gave him to be honest
    Didn't Yasir just break the record for the fastest to 200 test wickets or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blistering Barnacle View Post
    Didn't Yasir just break the record for the fastest to 200 test wickets or something?
    Yes he did

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    He's mediocre outside UAE

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    He was never a huge spinner of the ball. He has the ability to skid the ball on and is quick through the air. On UAE pitches, where their is low bounce he is able to trap batsmen lbw. Another reason for him not being good outside the UAE is that he lacks a potent googly.

    On the other hand, shadab has a potent googly and also turns his legbreak more than Yasir does. His additional batting and fielding skills are also an upgrade over Yasir. Which is why it boggles my mind why shadab is not playing here instead of Yasir. I guess the only reason the management can give is yasir’s Experience and seniority as well as the fact that Yasir is a bit more patient as a leg spinner than shadab who tries his variations out.

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    Spinning the ball miles is overrated. It's all about the variations. Both pace and style of ball. Even minimum deviation from spin with loads of variety is more damgerous than outrageous spin.

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    Yasir Shah is a good ďdry wicketĒ bowler.

    He has done well in the UAE, West Indies and on two drier than usual London pitches.

    But in Australia, New Zealand and South Africa he has played 6 Tests, and averages over 70 runs per wicket.

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    Is there lack of spinners in Pakistan..... A country which produced players like mushy, Saqlain, ajmal

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    Yasir being a huge turner of the ball is fake news. He get's appreciable spin off dry tracks, but relies on being nippy off the pitch and skidding on as his main weapon. He's more Kumble than Warne for reference in how he operates.

    And just like Kumble did for the first half of his career, he's finding that those methods don't travel well especially on bouncier wickets. He needs to start getting more drift by giving more revs, while bowling slower. Beat people in the air rather than off the pitch. Both Ashwin and Kuldeep actually did a pretty good job in Australia by switching to the latter, as did Kumble in his last tour there.

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    He got lucky at Lordís because the English batsmen took him lightly and over-attacked. At Oval, he benefited from scoreboard pressure.

    Overall, he has been thoroughly mediocre outside Asia. West Indies doesnít count anymore since the pitches aid spinners and their batsmen cannot play them.

    He is overrated by our fans because he keep taking wickets in the UAE. There is nothing wrong with that, but we must understand that he has never been partnered with a genuine wicket-taking spinner.

    The likes of Ashwin, Jadeja, Lyon etc. would also take an insane amount of wickets if they were to bowl in the UAE as the sole wicket-taking spinner.

    Yasir is below Ashwin, Jadeja and Lyon. He is not the best spinner in the world by any measure, and he is not decent overseas either. Nothing more than a good spinner in favorable conditions. That is all.

    And his attitude with the bat is disgusting. That is why he is not quarter the player Ashwin and Jadeja are and not half the player Lyon is.

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    Yasir Shah being hit about - 1st over for 20 runs


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    In 2018 Yasir Shah took 38 wickets in 6 matches at average of 23.52
    It included 2 test vs Aus , 3 vs NZ and 1 vs SA.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jeetu View Post
    In 2018 Yasir Shah took 38 wickets in 6 matches at average of 23.52
    It included 2 test vs Aus , 3 vs NZ and 1 vs SA.
    Yasir can be an Asia specialist, he has been pathetic outside Asia excluding the 2 tests against England years ago.


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    Greatest spinner of this generation after Nathan Lyon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Warne gets off on any decent leggie that he sees. Yasir has not really kicked on from the hype Warne gave him to be honest
    Well Shane Warne Said he will get 200 test wickets, He got their fastest in test cricket. But seems to be struggling for Form now. He is going to get 300 or beyond?

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    Yasir Shah has completely lost it. He showed signs of good things but he is now a shadow of his former self.

    Pakistan may want to get a new spinner (preferably younger).



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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    Yasir Shah has completely lost it. He showed signs of good things but he is now a shadow of his former self.

    Pakistan may want to get a new spinner (preferably younger).
    Not happening my friend. Yasir was singled out for a Category A contract, with just Barber and Sarfraz for company. What does that mean? It means Yasir will be Pakistan's first choice spinner for years to come.

    It's really baffling how 90% of fans can see who is worth investing in and who is not, yet the people incharge, whoever they might be, never get it.

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    Called it way back but PP was up in arms because they could only see him recently winning the series against the WI.


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    Doing well for Balochistan today - 2 big wickets, Babar and Kamran - 2/11 in 2 so far


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Doing well for Balochistan today - 2 big wickets, Babar and Kamran - 2/11 in 2 so far
    2/19 in 4 overs he ends with - excellent.


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    Misbah on Yasir's selection for Tests

    “Besides adding speed and venom in our pace attack, we have strengthened our spin department by including an experienced Kashif Bhatti to support Yasir Shah. Yasir has matured and gained experience since his last tour to Australia, and he remains our most successful bowler in the Test format. We know he can deliver and will continue to back him to deliver the goods."


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    Oz batsmen will be rubbing their hands with glee, early feast before Christmas.

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    Doing a good job with the bat atleast


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    Excellent support for Asad Shafiq by Yasir


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    Mickey Arthur on Yasir Shah

    Yasir 'Ricky Ponting' Shah came to the fore with Asad Shafiq. That's a nickname the team has given him, he loves it. He's got a bit of swagger.

    "Yasir Shah is a proper character, he adds a massive amount to any dressing room. He's always got a smile, up to something, a mischief maker, he's fantastic"


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    Yasir Shah has now dismissed Steve Smith seven times in Test cricket! - Thats got to count for something


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    He is useless. You guys better find a replacement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Yasir Shah has now dismissed Steve Smith seven times in Test cricket! - Thats got to count for something


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    Waqar on Yasir Shah:

    "Yasir Shah, we all know that he is a match-winner and over the years he has won many games for Pakistan"

    "He may not have that good a track record in Australia but we all thought he would perform better, but unfortunately he..."


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    Yasir Shah gets his bunny Steve Smith for a seventh time. Only Stuart Broad has done it more

    Pakistan spinner Yasir Shah has got Steve Smith out for a seventh time in test cricket after bowling the master batsman for 4 on the third day of the Gabba Test.

    Smith belted a four off Shah to get off the mark, but the cheeky legspinner bowled his bunny the next ball to end Smith’s pursuit of 27 runs to be the fastest ever to 7000 in Tests.

    “Well deserved from Yasir Shah,” Warne told Fox Cricket.

    “We spoke about it before he looked threatening straight away. He’s bowled a better line this morning.

    “He’s bowled beautifully. He deserved that wicket. As much as we wanted to be entertained by Steve Smith that is excellent bowling from Yasir Shah.”

    Shah celebrated the wicket in style by giving a seven finger salute to note the amount of times he has dismissed Smith in Test cricket.
    Only England’s Stuart Broad (8) has got Smith out more times in the longest format of the game.

    “He was done by the flight,” Michael Vaughan told Fox Cricket.

    “Shah has been a lot straighter today. Smith was just trying to work it on that onside and he played across the line of the ball.”

    The wicket was Shah’s second of the innings after bowling Joe Burns around the legs for 97 on day two.

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    What I find amazing is that 3 years or so ago Shane Warne on air said yasir needs to bowl slower and straighter(ie within the stumps) and threaten both sides of the bat to be a great leg spinner. To bowl slower he has to create more loop and drift

    3 years!! It has taken this long for yasir to learn and implement what are the basics of leg spin and lo and behold he bowls the best batsman in the world. I thought he bowled beautifully in patches and when nasim was threatening yasir looked deadly (yet no bat pad on both sides)

    Sometimes I feel yasir is let down by poor captaincy and coaches but he could do so much more to elevate his own stature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abid Z View Post
    What I find amazing is that 3 years or so ago Shane Warne on air said yasir needs to bowl slower and straighter(ie within the stumps) and threaten both sides of the bat to be a great leg spinner. To bowl slower he has to create more loop and drift

    3 years!! It has taken this long for yasir to learn and implement what are the basics of leg spin and lo and behold he bowls the best batsman in the world. I thought he bowled beautifully in patches and when nasim was threatening yasir looked deadly (yet no bat pad on both sides)

    Sometimes I feel yasir is let down by poor captaincy and coaches but he could do so much more to elevate his own stature.
    Biggest make pcb made was to let mushi go.
    Yasir was a different beast when he had mushi to guide him.

    The captain thing is true, but as a senior player he should set his own field and demand that the captain accepts his decision.

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    England's Stuart Broad has dismissed Smith eight times in Test cricket but across 44 innings. Yasir is now only one behind him in the space of 11 innings. It might be unfair to call the modern-day Bradman his bunny but Yasir's gesture certainly indicated he's been keeping tally.

    The 33-year-old first announced himself to Smith and the Australians on debut in the United Arab Emirates, picking up seven wickets in his first match and collecting 12 for the two-Test series there.

    While his lone series in Australia before now wasn't as fruitful, he still excited crowds with his energy and eccentricity and has already done that again here despite his side heading towards a thrashing.

    Yasir's latest conquering of Smith, who scored only four, came in bizarre circumstances, the Australian maestro yorked by the leg-spinner after an air swing trying to turn the ball through the onside.

    Everyone is permitted a bad day and Smith was certainly due one, having sent his Test average soaring beyond 64 during the Ashes. But there was a sense of disbelief around the ground as he trudged off with his lowest Test contribution in three years.

    If Pakistan thought that by getting the world's best batsman out cheaply they would be right in the the first Test they were left sorely mistaken as Marnus Labuschagne compounded their woes with a big maiden hundred.

    But the scalp was deserved reward for Yasir, a late bloomer to Test cricket who since reaching the top has made up for lost time, last year becoming the fastest player ever to 200 wickets.

    Now, he is very much the senior statesman in a Pakistan attack that aside from him had played only a dozen Tests between them when they arrived at the Gabba.

    It's been tough going in Brisbane – and Yasir was called upon to bowl nearly 50 overs in Australia's first innings. But he provided something to smile about and, assuming Australia don't bat again here, will have Smith in his sights again when the series shifts to Adelaide this week.

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    Yasir Shah turned out to be the highest wicket-taker for Pakistan against Australia in the first Test at the Gabba, Brisbane. Shah took four wickets in the innings but gave as many as 205 runs in 48.4 overs he bowled. The 33-year-old bagged an embarrassing record on Saturday as he became the first bowler to concede more than 200 runs in an innings thrice in Test cricket’s history.

    It is also the eighth time a Pakistan bowler has conceded more than 200 runs in a Test innings. This is the second time Shah has crossed the 200-run mark against Australia. He conceded 207 runs from 41 overs at Melbourne Cricket Ground in December 2016, whilst bagging three wickets in that innings.

    The leg spinner conceded more than 200 runs for the first time in his Test career against England at the Old Trafford, Manchester in July 2016. He bowled 54 overs, gave 213 runs and picked up just one wicket.

    After getting the wicket of Joe Burns on Day 2 of the Test denying him a century, Shah got the wickets of Steve Smith, Mitchell Starc and Josh Hazlewood.

    The Pakistan leggie got Smith’s wicket for the seventh time in Test cricket in the six Tests the two have played against each other.

    At stumps on Day 3, the visitors were struggling after losing three wickets. Pakistan are still trailing by 276 runs with Babar Azam and Shan Masood trying to stitch a partnership for the fourth wicket.

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    Ppl hate Mickey because he backed Shadab despite other domestic spinners available, but Shadab has the better numbers away from home. Yasir shouldn’t be playing here.
    For things to go his way outside UAE he needs to be bowling on day three after his team has scored 500 rubs and as we saw in Melbourne in 2016 even that is not a guarantee. As it is he will be dropped for Adelaide and will be pickup up 50 wickets in home season and we will not groom any spinner for when travel again in 2021

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    I've lost patience with Yasir.

    Zafar Gohar should be our lead spinner. At least with SLA spinners they can offer more control than a leggie when it's not turning. Yasir should be relegated to 2nd spinner in Asia.

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    I was really impressed with him this time last year sat in a Rawalpindi hotel room when pak played against NZ

    Seems to be going the same way as danish kaneria whose stats nosedived after his initial years


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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    I've lost patience with Yasir.

    Zafar Gohar should be our lead spinner. At least with SLA spinners they can offer more control than a leggie when it's not turning. Yasir should be relegated to 2nd spinner in Asia.
    This. And Zafar is no mug with the bat either. Zafar should start come the SL tests in December.

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    I find Yasir Shah to be a largely mediocre bowler lacking variations - how many times have you seen him bowl flippers, googlies, or top spinners? If the pitch is not dry, he will go for runs. Add to that a hit-me ball every over - no wonder he holds the dubious record for going for 200+ runs in a test innings most times.

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    Azhar Ali on Yasir Shah:

    "Yasir has been our #1 bowler and has won us a lot of Tests in the last 5 years. Spinners never find it easy in Australia, even Lyon didn't get wickets till the last innings. Yes he has better control because he is used to those conditions. Not picking up new ball wickets is a big factor because you can't build pressure on the other team"

    "We thought Yasir will be effective at Adelaide because the ball was turning but they attacked him and he was under pressure throughout. Sometimes if you're struggling, you can get support from the other end which helps you to get in a good frame of mind again but unfortunately we couldn't take wickets at any time to put them under pressure"


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Azhar Ali on Yasir Shah:

    "Yasir has been our #1 bowler and has won us a lot of Tests in the last 5 years. Spinners never find it easy in Australia, even Lyon didn't get wickets till the last innings. Yes he has better control because he is used to those conditions. Not picking up new ball wickets is a big factor because you can't build pressure on the other team"

    "We thought Yasir will be effective at Adelaide because the ball was turning but they attacked him and he was under pressure throughout. Sometimes if you're struggling, you can get support from the other end which helps you to get in a good frame of mind again but unfortunately we couldn't take wickets at any time to put them under pressure"
    Great insights from the captain. With such precision planning, execution and tactical acumen, hopefully he continues for another 5 years just like he wishes.

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    Yasir is listed as 33, but he must be around 36 or 37.

    It could well be that his best years as a bowler are behind him.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Bw 2014 - 2016 Yasir Shah got tremendous turn on the ball watch his dismissals of Mark Craig, Correy Anderson, David Warner, Tamim Iqbal, Gary Balance etc. All these players got huge spinning deliveries which spun a long way in order to bowl the batsman through the gate.

    However from the second England test onwards in 2016 Yasir has been bowled to the ground by the Pakistani captains and has had to shoulder an insane workload and bowl 40 plus overs in England, UAE, Australia and the end result is that you have a bowler who looks tired and who is no longer going through his bowling action with the same energy and fizz and end result is less revolutions and spin on the ball.

    Thank you to the team management for mis managing their main bowler and not giving him the cushion of a 5th and 6th bowler to manage his work load and to prevent him from running into fitness issues
    Pakistanís own fault for not mixing it up and not giving justified performers a chance. Watch India, do they ever play the same attack again and again???? Mix it up with the bowling and the opposition doesnít know what to expect. Mixing up the bowling also allows your performers to be rested (not dropped) and come back much more effective.

    Itís PCBís fault for not finding replacements for Wahab and amir earlier.

    PS can you tell me whatís one week with the NCA going to do for yasir???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Yasir is listed as 33, but he must be around 36 or 37.

    It could well be that his best years as a bowler are behind him.
    This is the problem with having fake ages. It's why Naseems fake age does so much damage to PK cricket. Abbas is around 33, Azhar Ali is around 40 and Shadab is around 24(that is a fact)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    This is the problem with having fake ages. It's why Naseems fake age does so much damage to PK cricket. Abbas is around 33, Azhar Ali is around 40 and Shadab is around 24(that is a fact)
    It's alright as long as selectors and the coach know the real ages of these players . Naseem should be around 20 so he still has a long career ahead of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    It's alright as long as selectors and the coach know the real ages of these players . Naseem should be around 20 so he still has a long career ahead of him.
    But the fake age is quoted by fans and Selectors to give a longer rope to very average players in the expectation that their best days are ahead of them. It's one of the reasons why so few of our players get better with age because they are the age they supposedly get better by.
    If you pardon the pun, This is an age problem, back in 1990 when Zahid Fazal toured with U19 to England he was described as looking like Tendulkars grandad by John Woodcock in the Times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    But the fake age is quoted by fans and Selectors to give a longer rope to very average players in the expectation that their best days are ahead of them. It's one of the reasons why so few of our players get better with age because they are the age they supposedly get better by.
    If you pardon the pun, This is an age problem, back in 1990 when Zahid Fazal toured with U19 to England he was described as looking like Tendulkars grandad by John Woodcock in the Times.

    yes interesting point. Batsmen generally (those who make debut around 21) hit their peak by the age 30 with natural progression. There is no science behind it. But it has been the case for a long time unless you are a prodigy like Sachin who hit his peak when he was 25 with age on his side he hit the peak again 10 years later. If a 21 year old batsman is projected as 17 year old it won't make much of a difference when they are young. But when they hit 30 it does matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    yes interesting point. Batsmen generally (those who make debut around 21) hit their peak by the age 30 with natural progression. There is no science behind it. But it has been the case for a long time unless you are a prodigy like Sachin who hit his peak when he was 25 with age on his side he hit the peak again 10 years later. If a 21 year old batsman is projected as 17 year old it won't make much of a difference when they are young. But when they hit 30 it does matter.
    The problem is that their talent(lack off) doesnt deserve the chance in the 1st place and because of the lack of talent they don't even develop as they should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    It's alright as long as selectors and the coach know the real ages of these players . Naseem should be around 20 so he still has a long career ahead of him.
    Pakistan players fake their age but it is not as much as it being made outover here I gym with a first class cricketer and according to him in 90% cases it's no.more then two with few odd cases it is more then that. I have been ridiculous theories by posters without proof calling Abbas 37 or Azhar Ali 40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoib View Post
    Pakistan players fake their age but it is not as much as it being made outover here I gym with a first class cricketer and according to him in 90% cases it's no.more then two with few odd cases it is more then that. I have been ridiculous theories by posters without proof calling Abbas 37 or Azhar Ali 40.
    The problem with someone like Azhar is that even if it is only 2 years it means that he is almost 37. And with his knee problems, I think he's done . In recent years, I think Aamir was around 3 years overage because posters from his village in Pakistan seemed to suggest that and I believe @Bewal Express had stated this too. Naseem was apparently overage for an under -16 tournament back in 2016 or so that Pakistani anchor (forgot his name) said . So if he was atleast 17 then , he must be 20 now I think . But yeah the overage issue was worse in the 90's when the likes of Aaqib, Waqar and Razzaq were atleast 5 years older than their stated age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    The problem with someone like Azhar is that even if it is only 2 years it means that he is almost 37. And with his knee problems, I think he's done . In recent years, I think Aamir was around 3 years overage because posters from his village in Pakistan seemed to suggest that and I believe @Bewal Express had stated this too. Naseem was apparently overage for an under -16 tournament back in 2016 or so that Pakistani anchor (forgot his name) said . So if he was atleast 17 then , he must be 20 now I think . But yeah the overage issue was worse in the 90's when the likes of Aaqib, Waqar and Razzaq were atleast 5 years older than their stated age.
    Amir is 3 years older, I have spoken to people who have played against and with him in school. Shadab is the same, he is 24, and that is from people that have played with him. The fake ages distort the chances given to players but it's a problem impossible to eliminate in our system.

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    Yasir Shah showing some benefits of mentoring by Mushy?


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    Doesn't seem to be doing much better to be honest. Not spinning the ball, not making use of the dry patch the Lankans used so well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Yasir Shah showing some benefits of mentoring by Mushy?
    No he isn't. Mushtaq Ahmed is not a sorcerer anyways. He can't help Yasir too much in the space of just 2-3 days. Why was he sent to Mushy whilst a series was going on?

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    SL spinner able to spin on day 1, Yasir struggling on Day 2!


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    yasir unable to hit the patch , lack of control or is he bowling the wrong end?


    It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Yasir Shah showing some benefits of mentoring by Mushy?
    He's been in decline for a while now. Even in UAE. Last year he also struggled except for that one spell against NZ.

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    Here is a comparison of Yasir (red) vs Embuldeniya (yellow)

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    When you use international arena to get your players in form and ignore in form players the end result is disappointment and we are not learning. Pakistan team has gone from bad to worst because of this stubbornness.

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    He needs some time off from cricket

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    Quote Originally Posted by shah_1 View Post
    He needs some time off from cricket
    He had the whole year off!

    The guy is finished.

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    Yasir is done, pakistan need to investvin a new front line spinner. Pakistan spinners in general have short shelf lifes.

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    People used to talk about how Yasir was the best spinner from the subcontinent in a long time. This guy would struggle to get into the India A team. Pathetic.

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    Yasir is finished

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    He is a liability now and needs to be benched. He creates too much pressure on the bowling attack and relieves pressure on the opposition

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    Quote Originally Posted by Globama View Post
    People used to talk about how Yasir was the best spinner from the subcontinent in a long time. This guy would struggle to get into the India A team. Pathetic.
    Don't think he can play for any top Ranji team as well

    It is time to move on

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    yasir is averaging above 130 this year .

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    His decline should be studied.

    Even part timers are more threatening than this version of Yasir.

    Feel sorry for him. He should be dropped permanently.

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    I think age has definitely something to do with his decline. Is he 35 or above?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Globama View Post
    People used to talk about how Yasir was the best spinner from the subcontinent in a long time. This guy would struggle to get into the India A team. Pathetic.
    People overrated him even in his peak. He has always been comfortably inferior to Ashwin.

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    It is time to stick with Shadab in Tests and ODIs. He can bat too. He can be an all rounder in Tests and ODIs. He is young as well.

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    Really need to move on from Yasir. He isn't good enough anymore.

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    He should learn some new skills to survive in white ball cricket, in Tests he is okay IMO
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    What happens after a week? Will Yasir be let go as he is only selected as a cover?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    He got lucky at Lord’s because the English batsmen took him lightly and over-attacked. At Oval, he benefited from scoreboard pressure.

    Overall, he has been thoroughly mediocre outside Asia. West Indies doesn’t count anymore since the pitches aid spinners and their batsmen cannot play them.

    He is overrated by our fans because he keep taking wickets in the UAE. There is nothing wrong with that, but we must understand that he has never been partnered with a genuine wicket-taking spinner.

    The likes of Ashwin, Jadeja, Lyon etc. would also take an insane amount of wickets if they were to bowl in the UAE as the sole wicket-taking spinner.

    Yasir is below Ashwin, Jadeja and Lyon. He is not the best spinner in the world by any measure, and he is not decent overseas either. Nothing more than a good spinner in favorable conditions. That is all.

    And his attitude with the bat is disgusting. That is why he is not quarter the player Ashwin and Jadeja are and not half the player Lyon is.
    His century in Australia says HI

    But then you will say well everyone scored 100 there so why not Yasir.

    Psych meds my dear, psych meds. Need to titrate them up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khan_aa View Post
    His century in Australia says HI

    But then you will say well everyone scored 100 there so why not Yasir.

    Psych meds my dear, psych meds. Need to titrate them up.
    That actually proves my point regarding his disgusting attitude with the bat.

    He had the talent to average around 25 in Test cricket and score 3-4 hundreds over his Test career, but his laziness and lack of effort meant that he is ending his Test career with an embarrassing average of 13, with 1 hundred and 0 fifties.

    That hundred in Australia is just a glimpse of what was possible if he had the hunger and the desire to work on his batting.

    Ashwin:

    Average = 28
    Hundreds = 4
    Fifties = 11

    Jadeja:

    Average = 35
    Hundreds = 1
    Fifties = 14

    Philander:

    Average = 24
    Hundreds = 0
    Fifties = 8

    Starc:

    Average = 22
    Hundreds = 0
    Fifties = 10

    Yasir:

    Average = 13
    Hundreds = 1
    Fifties = 0

    Apart from Jadeja, Yasirís batting ability is roughly equal to the other players, but his numbers are completely embarrassing.

    In spite of having the same batting talent as Ashwin, Philander or Starc, he averages the same as a genuine tail-ender like Hazlewood, and has crossed the 50 mark only once in 58 innings.

    I donít think I need any meds, but you certainly need to work on your mediocre understanding of cricket.


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