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    China to 'sinicize' Islam, passes law to make religion compatible with socialism

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...185031063.html

    New decree seeks to 'guide Islam', as crackdown against Muslims and Islamic symbols continues.

    China has passed a new law that seeks to "Sinicize" Islam within the next five years, the latest move by Beijing to rewrite how the religion is practised.

    China's main English newspaper, Global Times, reported on Saturday that after a meeting with representatives from eight Islamic associations, government officials "agreed to guide Islam to be compatible with socialism and implement measures to Sinicize the religion."

    The newspaper did not provide further details or the names of the associations that agreed to the decree.

    China has embarked on an aggressive "Sinification" campaign in recent years with faith groups that were largely tolerated in the past seeing their freedoms shrink under Chinese President Xi Jinping, China's most powerful leader since Mao Zedong.

    Practising Islam has been made forbidden in parts of China, with individuals caught praying, fasting, growing a beard or wearing a hijab, a headscarf worn by many Muslim women who feel it is part of their religion, facing the threat of arrest.

    According to the UN, more than one million Uighur Muslims are estimated to be held in internment camps where they are forced to denounce the religion and pledge allegiance to the officially atheist ruling Communist Party.

    Rights groups have accused China of engaging in a campaign of ethnic cleansing. In August, a Washington Post editorial said the world "can't ignore" the campaign against Muslims.

    Islamic crescents and domes have been stripped from mosques, and according to the Associated Press news agency, religious schools and Arabic classes have been banned and children barred from participating in Muslim activities.

    China has rejected the criticism, saying it protects the religion and culture of its minorities.

    However, in the past week alone, authorities in China's Yunnan province, which borders Mynamar, have closed three mosques established by the marginalised Hui Muslim ethnic minority, the South China Morning Post has reported.


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    nothing to see here i suppose?china is carrying out ethno cultural annihilation of uyghur muslims on an epic scale and Muslim world that would lose it over few obscure cartoons drawn by some lumpen in some obscure newspaper in Europe, does not have much to say on an issue that should genuinely concern them.talk of priorities
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    China is one of the world's fastest growing economies. We heard from progressive Bangladeshis how they put progress before democracy under Hasina's rule, so you could say this is China's version of the same song. The Muslim population is holding back the nation so some disciplined and enforced guidance is for their own good.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    China is one of the world's fastest growing economies. We heard from progressive Bangladeshis how they put progress before democracy under Hasina's rule, so you could say this is China's version of the same song. The Muslim population is holding back the nation so some disciplined and enforced guidance is for their own good.
    That's why I support Modiji in all his endeavors. He is the only person capable of truly leading our nation to new heights.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TM Riddle View Post
    That's why I support Modiji in all his endeavors. He is the only person capable of truly leading our nation to new heights.
    Modi has outdone the Chinese by commissioning the world's tallest statue of Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel. Never mind new heights, these are world record breaking towering heights!


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    Quote Originally Posted by hussain123 View Post
    nothing to see here i suppose?china is carrying out ethno cultural annihilation of uyghur muslims on an epic scale and Muslim world that would lose it over few obscure cartoons drawn by some lumpen in some obscure newspaper in Europe, does not have much to say on an issue that should genuinely concern them.talk of priorities
    Well said.

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    What China does in it's own country is their business. Those Pak Muslim's crying about it should first take a look of how we treat our minorities.


    PP's own self proclaimed sharpshooter and defender of Islam and Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hussain123 View Post
    nothing to see here i suppose?china is carrying out ethno cultural annihilation of uyghur muslims on an epic scale and Muslim world that would lose it over few obscure cartoons drawn by some lumpen in some obscure newspaper in Europe, does not have much to say on an issue that should genuinely concern them.talk of priorities
    Thats sad isnt it?

    There is no such thing as being completely truthful and honest to yourself and others.

    You scratch my back, I scratch yours. That is the human race for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeetu View Post
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...185031063.html

    New decree seeks to 'guide Islam', as crackdown against Muslims and Islamic symbols continues.

    China has passed a new law that seeks to "Sinicize" Islam within the next five years, the latest move by Beijing to rewrite how the religion is practised.

    China's main English newspaper, Global Times, reported on Saturday that after a meeting with representatives from eight Islamic associations, government officials "agreed to guide Islam to be compatible with socialism and implement measures to Sinicize the religion."

    The newspaper did not provide further details or the names of the associations that agreed to the decree.

    China has embarked on an aggressive "Sinification" campaign in recent years with faith groups that were largely tolerated in the past seeing their freedoms shrink under Chinese President Xi Jinping, China's most powerful leader since Mao Zedong.

    Practising Islam has been made forbidden in parts of China, with individuals caught praying, fasting, growing a beard or wearing a hijab, a headscarf worn by many Muslim women who feel it is part of their religion, facing the threat of arrest.

    According to the UN, more than one million Uighur Muslims are estimated to be held in internment camps where they are forced to denounce the religion and pledge allegiance to the officially atheist ruling Communist Party.

    Rights groups have accused China of engaging in a campaign of ethnic cleansing. In August, a Washington Post editorial said the world "can't ignore" the campaign against Muslims.

    Islamic crescents and domes have been stripped from mosques, and according to the Associated Press news agency, religious schools and Arabic classes have been banned and children barred from participating in Muslim activities.

    China has rejected the criticism, saying it protects the religion and culture of its minorities.

    However, in the past week alone, authorities in China's Yunnan province, which borders Mynamar, have closed three mosques established by the marginalised Hui Muslim ethnic minority, the South China Morning Post has reported.
    both India and China are some of the worst places for muslims in general

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    Thats sad isnt it?

    There is no such thing as being completely truthful and honest to yourself and others.

    You scratch my back, I scratch yours. That is the human race for you.
    fair enough.would be interesting to know your vantage point on Palestine cuz i can't see how uyghurs fare any less worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    Thats sad isnt it?

    There is no such thing as being completely truthful and honest to yourself and others.

    You scratch my back, I scratch yours. That is the human race for you.
    If that is the case then Pakistan and certain Pakistanis should stop pretending to be the gate keepers of Islam. Willing to protest and do violence in the streets because Ahmedis were given an iota of rights, but willing to get in bed with the country actually victimizing Muslims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suleiman View Post
    If that is the case then Pakistan and certain Pakistanis should stop pretending to be the gate keepers of Islam. Willing to protest and do violence in the streets because Ahmedis were given an iota of rights, but willing to get in bed with the country actually victimizing Muslims.
    Which Pakistanis are pretending to be the gatekeepers of Islam while willing to get in bed with China? Who are you talking about exactly?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Suleiman View Post
    If that is the case then Pakistan and certain Pakistanis should stop pretending to be the gate keepers of Islam. Willing to protest and do violence in the streets because Ahmedis were given an iota of rights, but willing to get in bed with the country actually victimizing Muslims.
    It's best to look into the issue before making such comments.

    Muslim groups from Beijing, Shanghai, Hunan, Yunnan and Qinghai had discussed a five-year plan for the “sinicisation of Islam” at a seminar in the Chinese capital, according to the state-run Global Times.

    The plan was “not about changing the beliefs, habits or ideology of Islam but to make them compatible with socialist society”, Gao Zhanfu, vice-dean of the Beijing-based China Islamic Institute, told the newspaper.

    But the World Uyghur Congress, an exile organisation, said Beijing was using sinicisation to erase Islam from China.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8715506.html

    Muslims in China have come up with this alongside the ruling government of the nation.


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    Let me get this right. Since Islam is perfect religion, there shouldn't be any modification required. If you are modifying the religion to integrate it to another ideology, aren't you taking away the entities which make it perfect in the first place?

    And if, to integrate, modification is required to be done, isn't it obvious that these two has basic differences where you are compensating socialism via sacrifice of new version of Islam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi View Post
    Let me get this right. Since Islam is perfect religion, there shouldn't be any modification required. If you are modifying the religion to integrate it to another ideology, aren't you taking away the entities which make it perfect in the first place?

    And if, to integrate, modification is required to be done, isn't it obvious that these two has basic differences where you are compensating socialism via sacrifice of new version of Islam?
    It's not the Muslims doing the modifying here, it's the Chinese who obviously don't think Islam is the perfect religion, otherwise they would organise a mass conversion of the population.


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