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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakistanian View Post
    You're out of touch with the modern age, it's not about the legality of what he said. It's legal to be a creep/pervert but people will call you a creep and ostracize you for it (rightfully).
    Perversion is not legal.

    Has anyone complained about Pandya? Any female?

    Just because his life style doesnt fit that of the feminists, he is to be targetted.Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Perversion is not legal.

    Has anyone complained about Pandya? Any female?

    Just because his life style doesnt fit that of the feminists, he is to be targetted.Lol.
    He has apologized. If he wasn't guilty, why would he do so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TM Riddle View Post
    He has apologized. If he wasn't guilty, why would he do so?
    Maybe to avoid further backlash?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaDed View Post
    Have you been West Delhi? Everything is Gully mohalla..he was part of academy though..unlike Dhoni..
    It isn't. I stay in West Delhi for last 10-odd years and there are some of the poshest localities located in this part of Delhi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TM Riddle View Post
    He has apologized. If he wasn't guilty, why would he do so?
    Under pressure.

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    He and Rahul have now been showcaused by Bcci. Bcci considering a ban on cricketers from appearing in a non cricketing show.

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    Hardik Pandya and Lokesh Rahul should receive minimum 1 year suspension by BCCI

    Coming to the point, on popular Bollywood chit chat show Koffee With Karan both players revealed their partying and adulting ways while on tours and during IPL.

    That while being contracted to BCCI/IPL franchises should never come in public domain and shouod not happen in first place. You are not paid by BCCI to have fun with cheerleaders and fans during tours and tournaments.

    Keep your personal life personal.

    But when you are travelling as representatives of Indian cricket indulging in this nonsense is a strict no no.

    These players have both disgraced themselves and Indian cricket and i hereby demand a suspension or a hefty fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    He and Rahul have now been showcaused by Bcci. Bcci considering a ban on cricketers from appearing in a non cricketing show.
    I think KL Rahul was pretty decent on the show. Him being a child of two professors showed. Pandya should've been showcaused, not KL.

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    Nonsense. There's nothing wrong with discussing your personal life on TV.

    Also, none of their comments were sexist or misogynistic. If a woman had said the same things, she would be applauded by feminists for being open about her sexuality.

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    The BCCI is apparently contemplating action against the two

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sachin136 View Post
    Nonsense. There's nothing wrong with discussing your personal life on TV.

    Also, none of their comments were sexist or misogynistic. If a woman had said the same things, she would be applauded by feminists for being open about her sexuality.
    Agree. But BCCI should ban them for a year for non-performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shariqnoor View Post
    On a side note, just watching Hardik Pandya on Koffee with Karan last week reaffirmed my belief of how important education is. What a disaster he turned out to be with his attitude. Also flaunted the fact that he isn't educated and doesn't care one bit about it. He's lucky that he came out of a system that polished his cricketing skills otherwise he's hopeless.
    Many of my friends from a top US university slept around and openly discussed it with us in the dorms. What does education have to do with this?

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    BCCI run by CoA again interfering in things it shouldnot. Which cricketer slept with whom is not their business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    BCCI run by CoA again interfering in things it shouldnot. Which cricketer slept with whom is not their business.
    In ideal world, it shouldn't have been. But it the damaged to the public profile due to personal dirt which has been the cause of demise of even powerful people. It paints a bad picture of the industry itself. No one is arguing who should sleep with whom. But when you are going public, there are few things you shouldn't talk.

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    The Committee of Administrators on Wednesday issued a show cause notice to Indian cricketers, Hardik Pandya and K L Rahul, and sought an explanation within 24 hours for their remarks on women on a TV show.

    The show cause came hours after BCCI officials told Hindustan Times that Pandya’s apology on Twitter was not enough as he acted irresponsibly despite being an international cricketer on the chat show Koffee With Karan.

    “We have sent show cause notices to Hardik Pandya and K L Rahul for their comments. They have given 24 hours to give an explanation,” CoA chief Vinod Rai said.

    Speaking to Hindustan Times, a senior BCCI official said that the matter was far from over and how Pandya’s words showed his attitude towards serious issues like respecting women. He also pointed at the need of an international cricketer to understand his duties.

    “This attempt at an apology does in no way bring the issue to closure. This merely shows how lightly he takes the gravely serious issue of respecting women. His conduct was unacceptable. He needs to understand the impact the utterances of an international cricketer have in this country but more importantly he needs to learn how to differentiate between the right and the wrong. Right now he seems to merely respond to the outrage and not to his own thought process and conduct,” he said.

    Speaking to Hindustan Times, former BCCI General Manager (Game Development) Ratnakar Shetty — currently associated with Uttarakhand as BCCI nominee — also made his displeasure known. “This is disgraceful and not acceptable from someone who represents the country and I will be writing to the Committee of Administrators so that these things are not repeated. I have also tweeted how I feel,” he said.

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    What an idiot! Always found this guy cringeworthy. So called rich IPL millionaire. Why millions when you don't have class! I hope he gets banned for at least an year or two. At least I won't need to watch his stupid antics on the field. Disgusting creep!

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    What were these two flop cricketers doing there anyway? KL Rahul should be kicked out of our team based on his performance alone. And Pandya sahab should concentrate on improving himself because he is hyped to be the best allrounder since Kapil Dev by his fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shandarchowka View Post
    What an idiot! Always found this guy cringeworthy. So called rich IPL millionaire. Why millions when you don't have class! I hope he gets banned for at least an year or two. At least I won't need to watch his stupid antics on the field. Disgusting creep!
    This is the side effect of giving millions to average cricketers early on in their career. Had he been playing in the early 2000s, he would have to work so hard to earn this money and would think twice before uttering nonsense in front of the public. His fans will again come and call me jealous and what not for saying the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shandarchowka View Post
    Good luck with that. Their careers are over after latest BCCI notice to them. I think you guys are lucky that you got rid of them early. I hoped they could sabotage another couple of tours and a world cup
    They will avoid having even a cup of coffee at home now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    BCCI run by CoA again interfering in things it shouldnot. Which cricketer slept with whom is not their business.
    To be fair, Pandya should have known better.

    When someone's comments start hurting the overall business, they're in a world of trouble. The thought of losing money always rattles the cage.

    Not sure why any sensible athlete (representing an entire country no less) would think those stories are appropriate in the public domain especially when presented in such a crass manner.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kingusama92 View Post
    To be fair, Pandya should have known better.

    When someone's comments start hurting the overall business, they're in a world of trouble. The thought of losing money always rattles the cage.

    Not sure why any sensible athlete (representing an entire country no less) would think those stories are appropriate in the public domain especially when presented in such a crass manner.
    Again, whats illegal? Did anyone complain?

    If some female had complained to bcci regarding their behaviour towards her it was an issue, not this rubbish.
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    I thought this kinda chat was the usual standard fare on Koffee with Karan. Why the sudden outrage? It's weirder to see posters here fuming about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    BCCI run by CoA again interfering in things it shouldnot. Which cricketer slept with whom is not their business.
    I get a feeling the BCCI without CoA would have done the same though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    I assume you do the same?

    For me it's not about awkward but out of respect for women and out of respect for my parents.

    But I guess some Indians want to be liberals as if they are living in Paris.
    Do French kids discuss their sexual conquests with their parents? I really have no idea, I know Brits would find that awkward, and Americans too for that matter. They don't even like public displays of affection which go beyond holding hands, hence that well worn phrase "Get a room!"

    My own view is that some here are defending Pandiya either because he is Indian, or they want to pretend that they are liberal without really understanding what that means in the west.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    It isn't. I stay in West Delhi for last 10-odd years and there are some of the poshest localities located in this part of Delhi.
    Yes but when he grew up bro, My parents grew up in West Delhi and I have seen it change to 'all these blocks' now, although Tilak Nagar still looks like Mohallas to me but Janakpuri,Rajouri etc have changed..

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    Good. Let them sink in the show cause notice, and more importantly, the negative PR doing the rounds at the moment.

    Pandya is the cricket equivalent of a failed Bollywood B-grade star, and even such a label would be a compliment for Mr. KL Rahul.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JaDed View Post
    Yes but when he grew up bro, My parents grew up in West Delhi and I have seen it change to 'all these blocks' now, although Tilak Nagar still looks like Mohallas to me but Janakpuri,Rajouri etc have changed..
    Uttam nagar is still a mohalla or at least it used to be around a decade ago when I used to live there. Rajouri where I currently live now has definitely changed.

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    Pando had it coming.

    Our resident Naqli angrez might defend them but truth is we have our own standards of decency and we are proud of them. We dont need to ape dengenracy from anywhere.

    Not sure why KL is being sent the notice though. Unless its for his batting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TM Riddle View Post
    Uttam nagar is still a mohalla or at least it used to be around a decade ago when I used to live there. Rajouri where I currently live now has definitely changed.
    Now it makes perfect sense and justifies your thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Now it makes perfect sense and justifies your thinking.
    I only lived there for a year and was 13 so not much influence thankfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sachin136 View Post
    Many of my friends from a top US university slept around and openly discussed it with us in the dorms. What does education have to do with this?
    Are your friends celebrities? Everyone has a right to do whatever they want but when you are on the national television you should think twice before opening your mouth. Anyway Pandya has apologised. He shouldn't be punished for whatever he does in his personal life.


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    This wouldn't have been a problem in the west, it's typical lads banter here in the UK and also in US + Australia.

    There must be some old fogeys working for the BCCI who have yet to embrace today's society, probably also jealous that he can pull.

    This show cause notice is nonsense. Also it's what the IPL after parties and away tour nights out are all about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    I was surprised who he was bragging to. If it was just his friends, well that is not unusual, but he is saying he brags to his family including his mother and they seem to be proud of it. I am not going to pass judgement here, could be a caste issue, which I don't know that much about. For low caste it might be a big achievement to sleep around with better caste girls, hence worth announcing to family to show social progress.
    Poor post , caste has nothing to do with this .
    On topic , he definitely is crass & will suffer hugely because of his cheap views & attitude . In just 3-4 years this guy from lower middle class has seen his net worth swell to around 50 crores & he cannot handle the fame & money & this is pretty much apparent from his dating tinsel town girls to sporting gaudy trinkets & garish clothes . Incidentally he is very close to Dhoni & i wonder why so !

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspin View Post
    This wouldn't have been a problem in the west, it's typical lads banter here in the UK and also in US + Australia.

    There must be some old fogeys working for the BCCI who have yet to embrace today's society, probably also jealous that he can pull.

    This show cause notice is nonsense. Also it's what the IPL after parties and away tour nights out are all about.
    It is lad's banter in the west, probably in the east as well, we already acknowledged that, only thing which seemed strange for me was that he was doing lad's banter with his mum which is not so typical in the west. Then sharing all this with a tv audience is also not that typical over here. I'm surprised there are people who identify with it to be honest, but I guess this Pandya fellow must represent a new breed of jackass.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    It is lad's banter in the west, probably in the east as well, we already acknowledged that, only thing which seemed strange for me was that he was doing lad's banter with his mum which is not so typical in the west. Then sharing all this with a tv audience is also not that typical over here. I'm surprised there are people who identify with it to be honest, but I guess this Pandya fellow must represent a new breed of jackass.
    Maybe he wants to be India's version of Dan Blizerian

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspin View Post
    Maybe he wants to be India's version of Dan Blizerian
    How about a version of Vinod Kambli minus talent?

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    Indian cricketer Hardik Pandya Wednesday responded to the BCCI show cause notice by saying that he was “sincerely regretful” for the comments he made on a TV show, which were slammed as sexist and misogynistic.

    In his response to the notice, which gave him 24 hours to explain himself, Pandya said he did not realise that his comments would be found offensive. “I made an appearance on the chat show where I have made certain statements without realising that these could be disrespectful and offend sensitivities of viewers for which I am sincerely regretful,” he wrote in his response, which is in PTI’s possession.

    “I would like to assure you that there was no malice or any sort of ill-intent on my part to offend anyone or portray any section of the society in bad light. I made these statements in the flow of the show and had not comprehended the extent to which my statements would be found offensive,” he added.

    The 25-year-old, who is here for the ongoing series against Australia, vowed never to repeat the behaviour.

    “Rest assured I hold the BCCI in highest regard and will exercise complete discretion and prudence to ensure that such incidents are never repeated in future,” he said.

    Pandya appeared on the show with teammate K L Rahul, who was a lot more restrained in his responses to questions on women and relationships.

    It is learnt that Pandya has unreservedly apologised to the Indian team management and his teammates here.

    Although seen in high spirits in celebratory videos circulating on social media after India’s 2-1 series’ win over Australia, Pandya has since laid low. He wasn’t part of the optional practice session at the SCG on Wednesday. He is said to have spoken with coach Ravi Shastri and other senior members of the Indian ODI team, expressing his regret over those remarks made on “Koffee with Karan”, a chat show hosted by film-maker Karan Johar.

    A source, close to the player, said that Pandya was “drawn into making those comments as the show producers coaxed a carefree attitude” from him and Rahul.

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    The guy who actually should be sent show cause is Karan Johar. He is trying to set indecency as the new benchmark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TM Riddle View Post
    He has apologized. If he wasn't guilty, why would he do so?
    You have taken the comments made by Pandya very personally here and seem to be all over the thread. Now if hundreds of people start doing the same along with media pressure then he is expected to downplay his comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TM Riddle View Post
    Uttam nagar is still a mohalla or at least it used to be around a decade ago when I used to live there. Rajouri where I currently live now has definitely changed.
    Yeah Rajouri with those MIG and LIG homes, Uttam Nagar no offense to anyone who lives there still is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Again, whats illegal? Did anyone complain?

    If some female had complained to bcci regarding their behaviour towards her it was an issue, not this rubbish.
    That's not the point.

    BCCI is a business and it's expected to maintain a certain image as a national organization. You have brands such as Oppo, Nike, Paytm, Star, Pepsi, and Hyundai that pay big money to be related to Indian cricket. And Pepsi is already on edge after the fixing issues (IPL 2013).

    If customers start associating the BCCI with misogyny/vulgarity, these brands are going to eventually drop their sponsorships.

    Yes, you can question whether or not Pandya's comments deserve scrutiny but the response is there for everyone to see. A good chunk of Indian fans (especially women) didn't like it and in the end, customers are always right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Perversion is not legal.

    Has anyone complained about Pandya? Any female?

    Just because his life style doesnt fit that of the feminists, he is to be targetted.Lol.
    So treating women as objects, plaything is now ok and lifestyle. seeing posts like these its very easy to see why India remains a hell hole for women. So many powerful peopke and politicians kids treat women like objects have the same mentality

    I think you are deliberately being ignorant but I will repeat again. No one cares how many women they were with. It's the clear objectifying of women, treating them as things which got women outraged

    Also I have only seen incels and red pillers use females to address women and you have done it repeatedly. India has a lot of incels who need to be slapped by their some family members
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indiafan View Post
    So treating women as objects, plaything is now ok and lifestyle. seeing posts like these its very easy to see why India remains a hell hole for women. So many powerful peopke and politicians kids treat women like objects have the same mentality

    I think you are deliberately being ignorant but I will repeat again. No one cares how many women they were with. It's the clear objectifying of women, treating them as things which got women outraged

    Also I have only seen incels and red pillers use females to address women and you have done it repeatedly. India has a lot of incels who need to be slapped by their some family members
    Did Pandya say that women are objects? Why are you deriving your own conclusions ? All he said was that he had fun with various women and that's pretty much a lot of guys brag about , even more in the Western World. Don't know how they are responsible for any crimes against women. I am sure anyone who sees no fault in what Pandya said is a potential rapist in your eyes.

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    Diana wants him to be banned? I swear everytime I see that lady's name associated with BCCI really annoys me, when is this CoA thing coming to an end already!


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    What use is a 2 match ban?

    Sounds like the PCB dishing out Afridi / Shoaib Akhtar one of their signature 'lifetime' bans that typically span 2 T20is.


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    While I found it a bit creepy that he was sharing his lads banter with his mummy, I don't really see why he should be banned. India is a misogynistic society, I don't think it should be the BCCI's responsibility to police stupid utterances from their players unless they are actually breaking laws.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hafeezrocks View Post
    You have taken the comments made by Pandya very personally here and seem to be all over the thread. Now if hundreds of people start doing the same along with media pressure then he is expected to downplay his comments.
    People like him lose their temper when someone criticises Pandya's performance in their professional field which is to represent India in cricket. But these people act like intolerant humans and bash the same cricketer for his personal life which has nothing to do with cricket.

    On top of that these losers also feel proud that they haven't criticised Pandya for his skills but they have every right to criticise and judge him on the basis of his personal life. Funny people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    People like him lose their temper when someone criticises Pandya's performance in their professional field which is to represent India in cricket. But these people act like intolerant humans and bash the same cricketer for his personal life which has nothing to do with cricket.

    On top of that these losers also feel proud that they haven't criticised Pandya for his skills but they have every right to criticise and judge him on the basis of his personal life. Funny people.
    Come on, you cannot use the private excuse when it was the players themselves who made it public. It's not like people seeked them out in private parties or looked into their hotel rooms and judged them

    The players shared this in media. Other people are now using media to reply to what they shared. It was their choice to make it public, not the ones who responded. It was their views they aired publicly. Now people are airing their views and rebuttal


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    Quote Originally Posted by kingusama92 View Post
    That's not the point.

    BCCI is a business and it's expected to maintain a certain image as a national organization. You have brands such as Oppo, Nike, Paytm, Star, Pepsi, and Hyundai that pay big money to be related to Indian cricket. And Pepsi is already on edge after the fixing issues (IPL 2013).

    If customers start associating the BCCI with misogyny/vulgarity, these brands are going to eventually drop their sponsorships.

    Yes, you can question whether or not Pandya's comments deserve scrutiny but the response is there for everyone to see. A good chunk of Indian fans (especially women) didn't like it and in the end, customers are always right.
    Salman Khan is facing court cases ranging from animal killing to Culpable homicide, sponsors havent dropped him.

    Sanjay Dutt went to jail for keeping illegal fire arms.

    Aamir Khan had an affair with Kiran Rao when he was married.

    Srinivasan's Son in law was involved in betting and bcci didnt do much till the court ordered punishment.

    I can go on and on about people who have done much worse and havent been punished. Here social media feminist warriors are blowing a issue out of proportion and a very pliable CoA thinks its better to take action. The other member of the CoA though thinks legally Bcci cant take any action as this is beyond scope of action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indiafan View Post
    So treating women as objects, plaything is now ok and lifestyle. seeing posts like these its very easy to see why India remains a hell hole for women. So many powerful peopke and politicians kids treat women like objects have the same mentality

    I think you are deliberately being ignorant but I will repeat again. No one cares how many women they were with. It's the clear objectifying of women, treating them as things which got women outraged

    Also I have only seen incels and red pillers use females to address women and you have done it repeatedly. India has a lot of incels who need to be slapped by their some family members
    Objectifying which women? No women with whom Pandya has been has complained. Some random people who have nothing to do with this are complaining.

    If anyone had a single legal match stick to stand on in this issue, Pandya would be facing a FIR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaDed View Post
    Diana wants him to be banned? I swear everytime I see that lady's name associated with BCCI really annoys me, when is this CoA thing coming to an end already!
    Vinod Rai says ban them.

    Diana says BCCI cant ban them for things not related to cricket. Esp if they havent violated any laws.

    Remember Sidhu played for India despite facing culpable homicide charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indiafan View Post
    Come on, you cannot use the private excuse when it was the players themselves who made it public. It's not like people seeked them out in private parties or looked into their hotel rooms and judged them

    The players shared this in media. Other people are now using media to reply to what they shared. It was their choice to make it public, not the ones who responded. It was their views they aired publicly. Now people are airing their views and rebuttal
    Sidhu faced charges of culpable homicide, yet played for India. This is nothing but of proportion feminist uproar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Salman Khan is facing court cases ranging from animal killing to Culpable homicide, sponsors havent dropped him.

    Sanjay Dutt went to jail for keeping illegal fire arms.

    Aamir Khan had an affair with Kiran Rao when he was married.

    Srinivasan's Son in law was involved in betting and bcci didnt do much till the court ordered punishment.

    I can go on and on about people who have done much worse and havent been punished. Here social media feminist warriors are blowing a issue out of proportion and a very pliable CoA thinks its better to take action. The other member of the CoA though thinks legally Bcci cant take any action as this is beyond scope of action.
    You are forgetting Mohammed Shami. Its hypocracy from our fans to be quiet then and vocal now just bcoz they don't like Pandya

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Vinod Rai says ban them.

    Diana says BCCI cant ban them for things not related to cricket. Esp if they havent violated any laws.

    Remember Sidhu played for India despite facing culpable homicide charges.
    One important fact that is drummed in all corp employees is the fact that any action OUTSIDE Work hours which brings disrepute to the organization by association cannot be ignored and usually results in dismissal. So over the weekend, when you get drunk and say something stupid which makes it to the papers, then dont expect to walk back to your desk and start working again!

    Same applies to cricketers or any other employees of the BCCI (and should be)


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    It's what what he said was right or wrong, he made a huge negative publicity blunder for the organization he is working for. Public image is very important for any business and especially for a business as big as BCCI. Do you think NFL all of a sudden started caring about domestic abuse? It started clamping down on players because of the negative publicity it brings when a football player is involved in domestic abuse.

    All he can do now is apologize and lay low for couple months till this washes away. In future watch what you say in public sphere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Vinod Rai says ban them.

    Diana says BCCI cant ban them for things not related to cricket. Esp if they havent violated any laws.

    Remember Sidhu played for India despite facing culpable homicide charges.
    Thanks for clearing, I still have no respect for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    One important fact that is drummed in all corp employees is the fact that any action OUTSIDE Work hours which brings disrepute to the organization by association cannot be ignored and usually results in dismissal. So over the weekend, when you get drunk and say something stupid which makes it to the papers, then dont expect to walk back to your desk and start working again!

    Same applies to cricketers or any other employees of the BCCI (and should be)
    Question is what is disrepute?

    Can you be fired because your conduct didnot pass the feminist test?

    Is there anything illegal in what Pandya did?

    Pandya would make the papers anyways as he is a celeb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
    It's what what he said was right or wrong, he made a huge negative publicity blunder for the organization he is working for. Public image is very important for any business and especially for a business as big as BCCI. Do you think NFL all of a sudden started caring about domestic abuse? It started clamping down on players because of the negative publicity it brings when a football player is involved in domestic abuse.

    All he can do now is apologize and lay low for couple months till this washes away. In future watch what you say in public sphere.
    Isnt domestic abuse a criminal offence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Isnt domestic abuse a criminal offence?
    Yes it is, but most of them go unreported and then a video pops up a year or 2 later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indiafan View Post
    Come on, you cannot use the private excuse when it was the players themselves who made it public. It's not like people seeked them out in private parties or looked into their hotel rooms and judged them

    The players shared this in media. Other people are now using media to reply to what they shared. It was their choice to make it public, not the ones who responded. It was their views they aired publicly. Now people are airing their views and rebuttal
    They shared it in public but that has nothing to do with cricket. This is their first offence, BCCI should give them a warning and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Vinod Rai says ban them.

    Diana says BCCI cant ban them for things not related to cricket. Esp if they havent violated any laws.

    Remember Sidhu played for India despite facing culpable homicide charges.
    Diana is right. Time to move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
    Yes it is, but most of them go unreported and then a video pops up a year or 2 later.
    So if the wife doesnot press charges then the authorities cannot. Isnt it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    So if the wife doesnot press charges then the authorities cannot. Isnt it?
    Yes, the law enforcement cannot do anything. But there are various reasons why an abuse victim will not press charge or even let anyone know that an abuse is taking place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
    It's what what he said was right or wrong, he made a huge negative publicity blunder for the organization he is working for. Public image is very important for any business and especially for a business as big as BCCI. Do you think NFL all of a sudden started caring about domestic abuse? It started clamping down on players because of the negative publicity it brings when a football player is involved in domestic abuse.

    All he can do now is apologize and lay low for couple months till this washes away. In future watch what you say in public sphere.
    Can't compare what he did with abuse. He hasn't done anything illegal other than shoot down his own marketability. In this era of "locker room" culture, this kind of talk isn't shocking anymore. This is just a low class individual who is very desperate to show off his new found fame due to insecurity. I don't think this deserves any punishment by BCCI as he already punished himself by being unmarketable and cringeworthy for every woman out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhony View Post
    Can't compare what he did with abuse. He hasn't done anything illegal other than shoot down his own marketability. In this era of "locker room" culture, this kind of talk isn't shocking anymore. This is just a low class individual who is very desperate to show off his new found fame due to insecurity. I don't think this deserves any punishment by BCCI as he already punished himself by being unmarketable and cringeworthy for every woman out there.
    Yes, we can't compare what he did to an abuse, but what we are talking is negative publicity. About 3 or 4 years ago a car dealership employees posted a video of them, making fun of a pizza delivery guy and shafting him off tips in MA. They thought it would be funny and but the backlash was so big they had to shut shop. all this was over a $7 tip. There are certain things people take personally and can cause bigger backlash even though it may not be a crime.

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    Oh Boy!

    This thing is getting blown out of proportion. These guys are not allowed to do what they want to do with in law.

    He did not racially abuse anyone or rape anyone or molest anyone. His mistake was to brag about the number of women he has been with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    Oh Boy!

    This thing is getting blown out of proportion. These guys are not allowed to do what they want to do with in law.

    He did not racially abuse anyone or rape anyone or molest anyone. His mistake was to brag about the number of women he has been with.
    Agree very sad this is happening in a Country like India which aspires to be Liberal. Would understand if a Cricketer in Pakistan would have made these comments considering the conservative Islamic society we live in.

    This would never be a controversial subject in the West.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
    Yes, we can't compare what he did to an abuse, but what we are talking is negative publicity. About 3 or 4 years ago a car dealership employees posted a video of them, making fun of a pizza delivery guy and shafting him off tips in MA. They thought it would be funny and but the backlash was so big they had to shut shop. all this was over a $7 tip. There are certain things people take personally and can cause bigger backlash even though it may not be a crime.
    Yes. Can impact the way BCCI is perceived. There could be one issue based on what I read. With this attitude he could be an easy target for honey traps. One bad secret video and he's done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Question is what is disrepute?

    Can you be fired because your conduct didnot pass the feminist test?

    Is there anything illegal in what Pandya did?

    Pandya would make the papers anyways as he is a celeb.
    Reputational Risk is something all organizations hate and do a lot to protect themselves from.

    No law has been broken but India is largely a conservative society so this needs to be factored in the equation.

    Same as drunken behaviour is not a crime (you make yourself look like a fool and blurt out stuff you should not have said etc)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    Do French kids discuss their sexual conquests with their parents? I really have no idea, I know Brits would find that awkward, and Americans too for that matter. They don't even like public displays of affection which go beyond holding hands, hence that well worn phrase "Get a room!"

    My own view is that some here are defending Pandiya either because he is Indian, or they want to pretend that they are liberal without really understanding what that means in the west.
    Personally I do not care much for Pandiya.

    But I am sure there are some in Britain or US who would openly speak about their sexual encounter with their parents.

    It has nothing to do with liberalism, though some are defending him because of nationalism but he spoke his mind, he thought it was okay, he did not disrespect any female, he did not name any female, he just said in different words that he get lots of girls.

    It wasn't classy but it wasn't disrespecting female as most came out to accuse him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    Oh Boy!

    This thing is getting blown out of proportion. These guys are not allowed to do what they want to do with in law.

    He did not racially abuse anyone or rape anyone or molest anyone. His mistake was to brag about the number of women he has been with.
    India has a huge sexual assault problem. Last thing it needs is for its stars to promote women as objects of men desires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipcatch View Post
    Personally I do not care much for Pandiya.

    But I am sure there are some in Britain or US who would openly speak about their sexual encounter with their parents.
    On a tv chat show? Can you think of any that come to mind?


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    Cheap, cringeworthy, and embarrassing behaviour.

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    I just saw the interview to understand what the hoopla was about & honestly that was such a crass, wannabe behaviour - I guess that stems from the lack of education Pandya was proudly boasting of & the instant money/attention he is getting. If Pandya was in a corporate role, he would have got fired for such statements, so i cant imagine how BCCI would not discipline him in view of the negative publicity.

    At the same time- strongly feel that all professional cricket boards should provide adequate gender, racial sensitization training to these young cricketers who cant handle success after becoming overnight millionaires. Most of the cricketers turn pro at a young age, so i guess they are never truly educated & that kinda sometimes peeks through their behaviour.

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    If I were Hardik and got informed of a long BCCI ban for my tv appearance, I'd get a lawyer ready and head straight to court for tihis abuse of power.

    But then again, he'll probably lose the case given how regressive the courts and judges have become in recent years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dildilpak View Post
    I just saw the interview to understand what the hoopla was about & honestly that was such a crass, wannabe behaviour - I guess that stems from the lack of education Pandya was proudly boasting of & the instant money/attention he is getting. If Pandya was in a corporate role, he would have got fired for such statements, so i cant imagine how BCCI would not discipline him in view of the negative publicity.

    At the same time- strongly feel that all professional cricket boards should provide adequate gender, racial sensitization training to these young cricketers who cant handle success after becoming overnight millionaires. Most of the cricketers turn pro at a young age, so i guess they are never truly educated & that kinda sometimes peeks through their behaviour.
    Yeah they should be trained to be two faced, have a different personality in real while making a false impression on the camera to not hurt the snowflakes .

    Then a scandal will breakout in the future involving a certain player and everyone will be shocked about how anyone who is so decent in public can be so different in real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Diana is right. Time to move on.
    Bhai all the best .,

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    This has taken attention away from a big statement

    Both said Kohli is a better batsman than tendulkar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    On a tv chat show? Can you think of any that come to mind?
    Im sure if we were to search for it we would something but again this behavior isnt something you, I, and overwhelming majority of the audience would like to be shown on our TV.


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