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    Should Haris Sohail be in the starting XI for World Cup 2019, if fit?

    He seems like a good player, but I am not sure how well he would play in English conditions.

    Also how would he fit the team with Hafeez/Malik there? We would have to drop one of them - an ideal top 6 would be:

    1) Shan
    2)Fakhar
    3)Babar
    4)Haris
    5)Hafeez/Malik
    6)Imad Wasim

    It would require dropping one of those 2 seniors. This is the issue. Will Pakistan be willing to do it and would it be worth it for Haris?

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    Yeah I agree with you, but Hafeez/Malik would have to perform really poorly in the upcoming series to be dropped. Which is likely because they both aren't great in South African conditions.

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    Yep. He should be at No.4. He is probably Pakistan's best player of pace bowling and would be solid in England. Would have been solid against the Saffers had he been fit.

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    It's a no brainer. He's our best middle order batsman.

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    Needs to be in the squad if he's fit. His batting is required to outweigh the liabilities (Malik, Imam, Sarfraz and etc) against pace.

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    he is pretty 20ssssss player....un-reliable


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    It is inevitable that he will breakdown at some point. He simply cannot be relied upon, so the answer is a resounding no.

    All of this is with the convenient assumption that his belief in ghosts and black magic are mere figments of the media’s imagination.

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    Of course. He can easily replace one of the Sainted Seniors (Hafeez and Malik).

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    I am starting to lose patience with him.

    His performances have not been good enough to compensate for his baggage. He is consistent, but he has shown no temperament and desire for scoring big especially in ODIs.

    He is almost 30 and seems to have a lazy attitude towards the game, as his fitness shows.

    His knees are dodgy and he cannot be relied upon, and all these stories of him getting spooked by ghosts etc. are not encouraging.

    Imagine having a big match tomorrow and he is getting nightmares at 2 am because he saw a shadow in the hallway.

    Considering the fact that we are down to the bare bones in terms of our batting resources, he cannot be discarded completely.

    However, he should not be considered a permanent, indispensable member of the team either, simply because he is physically and mentally unreliable, and his performances have not been good enough to compensate for that.

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    Recent injury was an unfortunate event, didn’t he show ppl that he is from different class during the final odi against NZL where he was given the only chance in the series.

    He is the best batsman pak have against pace, his injury should be well treated and managed
    need to watch his fitness and diet. He was special in the last CWC and will also be special and perform well in the upcoming CWC without a shadow of doubt.

    Fish never forgets how to swim, I believe Haris’ batting technique against pace is as such. Temperament and fitness are the concerns which needs to be managed professionally by PCB and team mgmt

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    Yes. He's a classy batsman and not a bad bowler either. I really hope he's fit

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    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectionPersonified View Post
    he is pretty 20ssssss player....un-reliable
    Last 12 ODIs:

    70
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    51
    44
    52
    89*
    52*
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    60

    Yes, a player averaging nearly 60 in his last 12 ODIs is un-reliable when we have the de Villiers and Kohlis in our ODI lineup.

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    Obviously, one of our best middle order batsmen.

    His fitness is an issue, but the decision to persist with him or not should be made AFTER the World Cup, not before it @Mamoon


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    The guy is a liability. Comes across as being lazy. He is 30. Not much time on he’s side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by in_cutter View Post
    The guy is a liability. Comes across as being lazy. He is 30. Not much time on he’s side.
    He literally scored a 50 in his last ODI and you accepted your humble pie,now back to this again


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    Quote Originally Posted by in_cutter View Post
    The guy is a liability. Comes across as being lazy. He is 30. Not much time on he’s side.
    30 is nothing. Can play for another half a decade if not more a la Misbah.

    Picking 23 year olds and discarding 29 year olds because of a mere number is a recipe for a bad soup.


    Have some Sehwag in your life.

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    Will be missing the world cup.

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    He was coming into his own.

    Looked better currently than he did at the 2015 WC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    Will be missing the world cup.
    More like your wish.

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    Yes he should play at the WC. But I fear he may miss out due to injury.

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    Should be the second name after babar on the team sheet. Some of posters showing their agendas against him. He miles better then hafeez,Malik,sarfraz,imam. Please don't tell me he can't replace any of this trash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khan12 View Post
    More like your wish.
    Wish and prediction.
    If not missing, then breaking down after second game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    Wish and prediction.
    If not missing, then breaking down after second game
    We all know how much you love Harris.

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    My XI for WC would be something like this.

    Fakhar
    Masood
    Babar
    Harris
    Malik
    Sarfaraz
    Shadab
    Faheem
    Amir
    hassan
    Afridi

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    Haris will be Imam's replacement. Had high hopes for Imam but he probably needs a bit of a break

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    Definite pick.

    One of our better batsmen and more reliable than many.



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    Hope he is fully fit.

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    reliable??? No He should be asked to sit home and eat popcorn.

    Even if he gets picked he 'll come back mid tour with some mysterious injury... Enough of the Injury Saga... another one bites the dust for pakistan..

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    No space.
    This should be the team for world cup

    Shan
    Fakhar
    Babar
    Sarfaraz
    Malik
    Asif
    Faheem
    Shadab
    Amir
    Hasan
    Shaheen/Abbas/Junaid


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    2 guys who can bat through in the top 3, sarfaraz and Malik to feast on spin in the middle and one of the top 5 to finish with Asif and faheem at the death.
    That's the optimal team in terms of batting positions


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    His fitness/injuries issues have made me less excited about him honestly. He also seems to struggle accelerating/picking up singles which wasn't as big an issue before his comeback, and doesn't seem to be the ideal LOI mold. I think he'll still be good for us in both ODIs and Tests, but I remember at one point I thought he was going to be a Great, similar talent to Babar. The fact he's only played 4 ODIs since his comeback, is pretty sad, players need to be reliable.

    I think if Shan and Imam both cement their place Haris won't play. You can't fit him in and I assume both seniors will play. Plus Shan and Imam, with Babar and Fakhar in the team, Haris is just forced to low down the order at 5 which I don't think they'll want. Hafeez shouldn't have come back to international cricket, and Malik's been pretty unremarkable in 2018 and probably warrants a drop soon.

    However looking at things now, I think Shan will keep his spot, and Haris will probably replace Imam. Part of the reason why Haris played so few ODIs as Imam took his place.

    When the world cup comes along I'd probably prefer a top 7 of

    1. Manzoor
    2. Shan
    3. Fakhar
    4. Babar
    5. Haris
    6. Rizwan
    7. Sarfraz
    Last edited by ads101; 11th January 2019 at 06:40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ads101 View Post
    His fitness/injuries issues have made me less excited about him honestly. He also seems to struggle accelerating/picking up singles which wasn't as big an issue before his comeback, and doesn't seem to be the ideal LOI mold. I think he'll still be good for us in both ODIs and Tests, but I remember at one point I thought he was going to be a Great, similar talent to Babar. The fact he's only played 4 ODIs since his comeback, is pretty sad, players need to be reliable.

    I think if Shan and Imam both cement their place Haris won't play. You can't fit him in and I assume both seniors will play. Plus Shan and Imam, with Babar and Fakhar in the team, Haris is just forced to low down the order at 5 which I don't think they'll want. Hafeez shouldn't have come back to international cricket, and Malik's been pretty unremarkable in 2018 and probably warrants a drop soon.

    However looking at things now, I think Shan will keep his spot, and Haris will probably replace Imam. Part of the reason why Haris played so few ODIs as Imam took his place.

    When the world cup comes along I'd probably prefer a top 7 of

    1. Manzoor
    2. Shan
    3. Fakhar
    4. Babar
    5. Haris
    6. Rizwan
    7. Sarfraz
    Who is manzoor? Khurram Manzoor?

    Rizwan and Sarfraz in the same XI?

    Only 4 bowlers? lol, Sarfraz is useless at 7, you're better off with Imad at 7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chokli View Post
    Who is manzoor? Khurram Manzoor?

    Rizwan and Sarfraz in the same XI?

    Only 4 bowlers? lol, Sarfraz is useless at 7, you're better off with Imad at 7
    Forgot about Imad, yeah he should be at 7, Sarfraz 6. I guess one of Rizwan or Manzoor is left out.

    I'd like to try Khurram Manzoor out as he has a fantastic domestic record, and played as the opening partner with Shan. If anything Manzoor was the more aggressive one. And it gives a right-left handed opening pair. We need a good opening partnership, I think it'd solve a lot of our problems. One of the reason we do well in T20s is that Fakhar and Babar make a pretty good opening pair. Fakhar and Imam together doesn't fill me with hope even though Fakhar was excellent until recently (and should keep his place).

    I've sort of put Rizwan there as he has been doing great in domestic, and I'm hopeful he'll get a chance in the SA ODIs as he's in the squad.
    Last edited by ads101; 11th January 2019 at 07:13.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah View Post
    No space.
    This should be the team for world cup

    Shan
    Fakhar
    Babar
    Sarfaraz
    Malik
    Asif
    Faheem
    Shadab
    Amir
    Hasan
    Shaheen/Abbas/Junaid
    IN which world you think sarfraz is our no 4 batsman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunny_majoka View Post
    IN which world you think sarfraz is our no 4 batsman
    he averages around 60 or so at number 5...

    but he was a better batsman when he wasn't captain, the pressure of captaincy has had a huge effect on his batting

    i agree though, he should be dropped

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    Quote Originally Posted by ads101 View Post
    Forgot about Imad, yeah he should be at 7, Sarfraz 6. I guess one of Rizwan or Manzoor is left out.

    I'd like to try Khurram Manzoor out as he has a fantastic domestic record, and played as the opening partner with Shan. If anything Manzoor was the more aggressive one. And it gives a right-left handed opening pair. We need a good opening partnership, I think it'd solve a lot of our problems. One of the reason we do well in T20s is that Fakhar and Babar make a pretty good opening pair. Fakhar and Imam together doesn't fill me with hope even though Fakhar was excellent until recently (and should keep his place).

    I've sort of put Rizwan there as he has been doing great in domestic, and I'm hopeful he'll get a chance in the SA ODIs as he's in the squad.
    sarfraz's batting in odis ever since he became captain has been shii!t.

    i'd rather have rizwan in the side and somebody else as captain.

    the shii!ty thing is no one, i mean no one at all is captaincy material

    i would have agreed with you on Manzoor 10 years ago but his time has passed..

    will never understand why he was discarded, if only we invested in him instead of ahmed shehzad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chokli View Post
    sarfraz's batting in odis ever since he became captain has been shii!t.

    i'd rather have rizwan in the side and somebody else as captain.

    the shii!ty thing is no one, i mean no one at all is captaincy material

    i would have agreed with you on Manzoor 10 years ago but his time has passed..

    will never understand why he was discarded, if only we invested in him instead of ahmed shehzad
    Not that I think Sarfaraz is the answer but did you happen to catch Rizwan’s batting in Australia when we were there last

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khan12 View Post
    We all know how much you love Harris.

    Not as much as he loves his calories, I would guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    Not that I think Sarfaraz is the answer but did you happen to catch Rizwan’s batting in Australia when we were there last
    that was 2 years ago, he put up some great performances for pakistan a... in the same conditions pakistan was struglling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chokli View Post
    he averages around 60 or so at number 5...

    but he was a better batsman when he wasn't captain, the pressure of captaincy has had a huge effect on his batting

    i agree though, he should be dropped
    i was his biggest supporter but apart from 2014,15, he had very mediocre record against every team

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    If hit haris has to play...one of malik or hafeez should make the way for him...
    Shan
    Fakhar/imam
    Babar
    Malik/hafeez
    Rizwan
    Sarfaraz
    Faheem
    Shadab
    Aamir
    Hassan
    Shinwari

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    He is our most consistent batsman in the last year. Ten times better than Imam, Fakhar and Sarfraz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunny_majoka View Post
    IN which world you think sarfraz is our no 4 batsman
    Quote Originally Posted by Chokli View Post
    he averages around 60 or so at number 5...

    but he was a better batsman when he wasn't captain, the pressure of captaincy has had a huge effect on his batting

    i agree though, he should be dropped
    If he's gonna play that is the best place for him


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    He has poor fitness and is injury prone so would be a wasted space in the squad. There's no chance he could stay available for a full tournament. Would break down half way through the tournament and leave his replacement with no match practice.

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    Hopefully he can regain fitness. He has an important role to play if he could just stay fit. He played very well against NZ.


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