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    "The plan was to bowl wicket to wicket to control the run rate" : Mohammad Amir

    Mohammad Amir at a press conference:

    (Was Pakistan lucky to lose the toss considering their batting) "We are teammates, we have to back up each other. It's cricket, anything can happen. Sometimes I didn't bowl well, sometimes you struggle with batting. It's all about momentum. If you look at Shan, I think he's getting the momentum, he was unlucky today. I can't say it's a failure, they are trying hard and one day they will get reward insha'Allah"

    (Dressing room talk at Tea) "I think our first two sessions didn't go to plan, we didn't bowl well but after Tea we decided we have to bowl wicket to wicket and control the run rate so we can get wickets"

    (Regarding injury) "I had some cramps in my left calf but I'm feeling OK now"

    (Pitch) "This wicket is far better than the previous wickets, if you settle down then you can get runs. I always believe when you stick with the basics, as a batsman or a bowler, you can get the reward"

    (Bowling with Abbas) "I think we have to bowl according to the combination, it's a bowling unit so you have to back up each other. We were going according to the plan for the team, the plan was to bowl wicket to wicket to control the run rate and I think that's why we were successful"

    (New ball) "When the batsman is settled in, he can get the runs and it's difficult to control the run rate but I think if you stick to the plans and bowl wicket to wicket, you can get rewards"

    (Satisfied with the day) "It's a 50-50 call, it's Test cricket and you can't predict anything. We have to bat well tomorrow"


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    Great bowling today. Getting the last 7 wickets for 37 runs is just incredible. They have to bat as they did in the 2nd innings in the last test. Fearless and with a 'nothing to lose' attitude. Going to be an amazing test match.

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    Apparently a journalist asked Amir to respond to Sarfaraz's statement to which Amir said "leave it".
    A good day of test cricket though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hisham_ashraf View Post
    Apparently a journalist asked Amir to respond to Sarfaraz's statement to which Amir said "leave it".
    A good day of test cricket though!
    Which statement did he make?

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspin View Post
    Which statement did he make?
    Regarding the lack of pace from the fast-bowlers.


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    You could tell from the way he replied to the journalist that Amir was clearly and understandably not happy with Sarfraz throwing the bowlers under the bus after the last Test. Did well not to make any controversial comment against captain lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    Regarding the lack of pace from the fast-bowlers.
    Ah I see well handled by Amir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspin View Post
    Ah I see well handled by Amir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boi View Post
    You could tell from the way he replied to the journalist that Amir was clearly and understandably not happy with Sarfraz throwing the bowlers under the bus after the last Test. Did well not to make any controversial comment against captain lol
    Fragile ego if he can't handle that. Have you seen Azhar/Asad coming out with that attitude on occasions when the 'senior pros' have been criticized for not taking responsibility with the bat?

    When you fail and disappoint, the captain won't sing praises for you. Sarfraz never made a personal or derogatory remark. It was an honest and brutal assessment of the bowlers.

    Our fast bowlers have gotten used to too much pampering!

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    Our captain is biggest joke of 2019 who said bowler bowl slowly he should say our batting is crap blaming on bowler

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    He bowled well again today, but some fans are still on his case about lack of pace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    He bowled well again today, but some fans are still on his case about lack of pace!
    This was one session, one day after a gap of god knows how long. Flash in the pan performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamza78 View Post
    Our captain is biggest joke of 2019 who said bowler bowl slowly he should say our batting is crap blaming on bowler
    He has said about batsmen many times. Criticising Sarfraz for sake of criticising. Our batsmen always fail but when bowlers do bad they also need to be told

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    Quote Originally Posted by bala977 View Post
    This was one session, one day after a gap of god knows how long. Flash in the pan performance.
    Flash in the pan? He's been amazing this series. 10 wickets @ 22.70 with a SR of 51.4. He's also been economical, going at just 2.64 an over. His last series before this was England away where he took 7 wickets @ 21.28 with a SR of 47.2. Had an economy of 2.70 there as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    Flash in the pan? He's been amazing this series. 10 wickets @ 22.70 with a SR of 51.4. He's also been economical, going at just 2.64 an over. His last series before this was England away where he took 7 wickets @ 21.28 with a SR of 47.2. Had an economy of 2.70 there as well.
    Amir has been Pakistan's best bowler and has bowled well, despite the lack of pace. Unfortunately he hasn't been tested enough, and hence the fewer wickets, as his batsmen haven't given him any runs to defend in the fourth innings.

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    Not the first time people have complained about Amir's attitude, dude thinks he is way better than he already is, it shows in how he operates where he thinks he is better than everyone else but has nothing much to show for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Not the first time people have complained about Amir's attitude, dude thinks he is way better than he already is, it shows in how he operates where he thinks he is better than everyone else but has nothing much to show for it.
    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    Flash in the pan? He's been amazing this series. 10 wickets @ 22.70 with a SR of 51.4. He's also been economical, going at just 2.64 an over. His last series before this was England away where he took 7 wickets @ 21.28 with a SR of 47.2. Had an economy of 2.70 there as well.
    He has quite a bit to show for it actually.

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    Strange.

    I think the plan was to take some cheap wickets and pad up your stats, after South Africa had already scored more than enough in the first two sessions.

    Todayís so-called comeback with the ball was as useless as it gets. We were rubbish with the new and semi new ball, and we needed the bowlers to step up when Markram and Amla were toying with them, and later de Bruyn and Zubayr.

    The damage was already done when we started to take wickets with the old ball. Todayís bowling performance was equivalent to a spinner in Asia taking a 5-fer after bowling 50 overs and the opposition scoring 500.

    It was completely useless and pointless. We needed South Africa 100/4, which should have been converted into 200 all out, with Pakistan finishing at 60/2, without a nightwatchman at the crease as a free gift for South Africa tomorrow morning.

    Our bowling in the first two sessions was as rubbish and gutless as I have seen in Test cricket for a while.

    The lack of swing, seam, pace and control was embarrassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Strange.

    I think the plan was to take some cheap wickets and pad up your stats, after South Africa had already scored more than enough in the first two sessions.

    Todayís so-called comeback with the ball was as useless as it gets. We were rubbish with the new and semi new ball, and we needed the bowlers to step up when Markram and Amla were toying with them, and later de Bruyn and Zubayr.

    The damage was already done when we started to take wickets with the old ball. Todayís bowling performance was equivalent to a spinner in Asia taking a 5-fer after bowling 50 overs and the opposition scoring 500.

    It was completely useless and pointless. We needed South Africa 100/4, which should have been converted into 200 all out, with Pakistan finishing at 60/2, without a nightwatchman at the crease as a free gift for South Africa tomorrow morning.

    Our bowling in the first two sessions was as rubbish and gutless as I have seen in Test cricket for a while.

    The lack of swing, seam, pace and control was embarrassing.


    Yet it motivated you to write a small essay

    Why don't you bash the SAfricans? eh? They should have been 350/2 by the end of day!
    Last edited by WhenSultansBowled; 12th January 2019 at 01:14.

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    Did somebody ask Amir who is nothing but a burden on the team, why he can't swing with the new bowl? They literally failed to swing, bowl going straight no movement which ate up the first session and Proteas piled on the runs without losing much. Looks like its social media's responsibility to do the job of these biased journos who are there for formality only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Strange.

    I think the plan was to take some cheap wickets and pad up your stats, after South Africa had already scored more than enough in the first two sessions.

    Today’s so-called comeback with the ball was as useless as it gets. We were rubbish with the new and semi new ball, and we needed the bowlers to step up when Markram and Amla were toying with them, and later de Bruyn and Zubayr.

    The damage was already done when we started to take wickets with the old ball. Today’s bowling performance was equivalent to a spinner in Asia taking a 5-fer after bowling 50 overs and the opposition scoring 500.

    It was completely useless and pointless. We needed South Africa 100/4, which should have been converted into 200 all out, with Pakistan finishing at 60/2, without a nightwatchman at the crease as a free gift for South Africa tomorrow morning.

    Our bowling in the first two sessions was as rubbish and gutless as I have seen in Test cricket for a while.

    The lack of swing, seam, pace and control was embarrassing.
    Hang on. Why are you comparing our bowling to what our batters are capable of.
    A decent batting team would be looking to make 400 here tomorrow, so our bowlers did a great job today


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Strange.

    I think the plan was to take some cheap wickets and pad up your stats, after South Africa had already scored more than enough in the first two sessions.

    Todayís so-called comeback with the ball was as useless as it gets. We were rubbish with the new and semi new ball, and we needed the bowlers to step up when Markram and Amla were toying with them, and later de Bruyn and Zubayr.

    The damage was already done when we started to take wickets with the old ball. Todayís bowling performance was equivalent to a spinner in Asia taking a 5-fer after bowling 50 overs and the opposition scoring 500.

    It was completely useless and pointless. We needed South Africa 100/4, which should have been converted into 200 all out, with Pakistan finishing at 60/2, without a nightwatchman at the crease as a free gift for South Africa tomorrow morning.

    Our bowling in the first two sessions was as rubbish and gutless as I have seen in Test cricket for a while.

    The lack of swing, seam, pace and control was embarrassing.
    260 is an under par score on this track even Markaram thinks that if Pakistan garbage batting folds it has nothing to do with bowlers efforts. Any bowling line up would have taken a 260 odd from S.A. on this pitch after they won the toss and batted first give credit where it is due it was a great comeback which will probably go in to vain due to the rubbish batting line up

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    Michael Holding I think it was who cited this is as 500 score wicket. Bowling SA out for 262 is a very good effort however Mamoon also has a point, the bowling while the ball was newer and harder was pathetic.

    For a team with a near minnow batting line up we have to look to bowl these teams out for under 200 in SENA to stand a realistic chance of a win and it's exactly what they did in Lords last summer.

    Tomorrow morning Abbas won't last long and expect the team to be 3 down before they've scored 30 on the board. Shafiq will follow and he usually fails when the going is getting tough but delivers when the team is trailing (and on the verge of losing) like we saw in the last test and when he scored that Brisbane ton.

    Overall SA will probably have a 100+ run lead. Doesn't look great for Pakistan.
    Last edited by topspin; 12th January 2019 at 01:59.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake View Post
    Fragile ego if he can't handle that. Have you seen Azhar/Asad coming out with that attitude on occasions when the 'senior pros' have been criticized for not taking responsibility with the bat?

    When you fail and disappoint, the captain won't sing praises for you. Sarfraz never made a personal or derogatory remark. It was an honest and brutal assessment of the bowlers.

    Our fast bowlers have gotten used to too much pampering!
    But the senior pros havenít been criticised by the captain. It is unfair to fault the bowlers when the batting is what has put us in dire situations throughout the series. Sarfraz deflecting the blame on to the bowlers away from himself and his pals was pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khwaja78 View Post
    Did somebody ask Amir who is nothing but a burden on the team, why he can't swing with the new bowl? They literally failed to swing, bowl going straight no movement which ate up the first session and Proteas piled on the runs without losing much. Looks like its social media's responsibility to do the job of these biased journos who are there for formality only.
    Who is burden on the team
    Amir who has a bowling avg under 20
    Or sarfraz who has batting avg in 20s since 2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake View Post
    Fragile ego if he can't handle that. Have you seen Azhar/Asad coming out with that attitude on occasions when the 'senior pros' have been criticized for not taking responsibility with the bat?

    When you fail and disappoint, the captain won't sing praises for you. Sarfraz never made a personal or derogatory remark. It was an honest and brutal assessment of the bowlers.

    Our fast bowlers have gotten used to too much pampering!
    Azhar and asad failed miserably in this series.
    But our bowlers didn't. They performed well to avoid inning defeat in both tests.
    Sarfraz criticism in public is insane

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boi View Post
    But the senior pros havenít been criticised by the captain. It is unfair to fault the bowlers when the batting is what has put us in dire situations throughout the series. Sarfraz deflecting the blame on to the bowlers away from himself and his pals was pathetic.
    The senior batsmen have been criticised multiple times in the past when we've put up horror shows with the bat. Criticised by both the captain and the coach. Never have the reacted this way in public.

    Again, he never said bowlers are responsible for the defeat. He compared the bowlers of the two sides and pointed out that ours have their pace way down which is disappointing.

    Lastly, and once again, it's not a mutually exclusive equation! The bowlers can be criticised even if the batsmen have been a bigger failure. Our pride towards our fast bowlers sometimes gets in the way of an objective assessment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunny_majoka View Post
    Azhar and asad failed miserably in this series.
    But our bowlers didn't. They performed well to avoid inning defeat in both tests.
    Sarfraz criticism in public is insane
    No one said Azhar and Asad haven't failed. No, the bowlers didn't perform well at all. Conceding more than 400 on that deck isn't a shameful performance. Even the effort in the second innings of the first test was poor.

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    Each to their own, Imran was clearly old fashioned when he told a young Wasim to just bowl as quick as you can, attack and try to take wickets, donít worry about wides/no balls or being hit for runs, you just need to get those wicket taking balls. Thatís your role - Mr Strike Bowler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake View Post
    The senior batsmen have been criticised multiple times in the past when we've put up horror shows with the bat. Criticised by both the captain and the coach. Never have the reacted this way in public.

    Again, he never said bowlers are responsible for the defeat. He compared the bowlers of the two sides and pointed out that ours have their pace way down which is disappointing.

    Lastly, and once again, it's not a mutually exclusive equation! The bowlers can be criticised even if the batsmen have been a bigger failure. Our pride towards our fast bowlers sometimes gets in the way of an objective assessment.
    Any quotes from Sarfraz where he has criticised, questioned or even expressed disappointment at the lack of performance by his best pals Azhar and Asad? I can’t remember or recall anything.

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    Amir bowling with fire and fury at 132 km/hr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boi View Post
    Any quotes from Sarfraz where he has criticised, questioned or even expressed disappointment at the lack of performance by his best pals Azhar and Asad? I can’t remember or recall anything.
    He's mentioned batting plenty of times.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Amir bowling with fire and fury at 132 km/hr
    Nothing wrong with 132 km/hr. It's his usually range in the test format. PPers need to accept it and move on. He can surely bowl faster in T-20 and ODI.


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