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    Al-Badr commander Zeenat-ul-Islam killed in encounter in Kulgam

    Zeenat-ul-Islam, a top Al-Badr commander, is believed to have been involved in militancy since 2008.

    The top commander of the terror group Al-Badr was killed along with another terrorist in an encounter with security forces in the Katpora area of south Kashmirís Kulgam district Saturday, the Indian Army confirmed late in the evening.

    Zeenat-ul-Islam was one of the three most-wanted terrorists for security forces in Kashmir. The second slain militant has been identified as Shakeel Ahmad Dar alias Faisal of Chilipora, Shopian, sources said.

    Considered an improvised explosive device (IED) expert, Zeenat is believed to have been involved in militancy since 2008, and among the longest surviving local terrorists.

    A key terror recruiter in the Valley, Zeenat was among the accused in the 23 February 2017 Shopian attack in which three Army personnel and one civilian woman were killed.

    Sources said Saturdayís encounter started as the troops of 34 Rashtriya Rifles, the 18 battalion of the Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF), and the special operations group, Kulgam, arrived in Katpora for a cordon-and-search operation following a specific input about the presence of Zeenat and other terrorists in the area.

    The security forces had also brought Zeenatís father to the encounter site to appeal to him to surrender, the sources added, but the terrorists opened fire when they sensed the team was closing in on them.

    Link: https://theprint.in/security/one-of-...ounter/177102/


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    Dozen injured during clashes at Zeenat-ul-Islamís funeral

    Around a dozen persons were injured allegedly in security forcesí action on protestors during clashes in Shopian district on Sunday, police said.

    Clashes erupted between groups of youth and security forces in Sugan village of south Kashmirís Shopian district amid multiple funeral prayers for Al-Badr commander Zeenat-ul-Islam who was killed in an encounter in Saturday, a police official said.

    Sugan is Islamís native village.

    Clashes erupted soon after the forces tried to chase away the people from assembling in the village, the official said.

    He said at least a dozen persons were injured in the forcesí action.

    The injured were taken to nearby hospital, where from four of them were referred to SMHS hospital here, the official said.

    Link: http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/dozen-...rists-funeral/


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    Same old same old.

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    100 more will be born for 1 that is killed. India knows this full well.
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    Question: Why are freedom fighters called as terrorists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakLFC View Post
    100 more will be born for 1 that is killed. India knows this full well.
    And they will be dealt with in the similar manner.

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    This is so sad and ugly at the same time.

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    The only way India can eliminate Kashmiri nationalism is by wiping out all ethnic Kashmiris and that seems to be their strategy now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakistanian View Post
    The only way India can eliminate Kashmiri nationalism is by wiping out all ethnic Kashmiris and that seems to be their strategy now.
    That is something you believe but not true at all. Most Kashmiris want to be a part of India, you got to listen to the recent speech of Omar Abdullah in India today conclave. Only few brainwashed ones pick arms against army. India will never wipe out Kashmiri people for few goons. Kashmiris are our brothers and they are as much Indians as any. Only terrorists will be treated by our military and rightly so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canford Cliffs View Post
    That is something you believe but not true at all. Most Kashmiris want to be a part of India, you got to listen to the recent speech of Omar Abdullah in India today conclave. Only few brainwashed ones pick arms against army. India will never wipe out Kashmiri people for few goons. Kashmiris are our brothers and they are as much Indians as any. Only terrorists will be treated by our military and rightly so.
    There are Kashmiris from the Indian side on this forum and not one of them supports India or wants to be a part of that country. There was even a survey by the bbc and more than 90% of kashmiris wanted independence.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Canford Cliffs View Post
    That is something you believe but not true at all. Most Kashmiris want to be a part of India, you got to listen to the recent speech of Omar Abdullah in India today conclave. Only few brainwashed ones pick arms against army. India will never wipe out Kashmiri people for few goons. Kashmiris are our brothers and they are as much Indians as any. Only terrorists will be treated by our military and rightly so.
    Take off your nationalistic glasses my brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canford Cliffs View Post
    That is something you believe but not true at all. Most Kashmiris want to be a part of India, you got to listen to the recent speech of Omar Abdullah in India today conclave. Only few brainwashed ones pick arms against army. India will never wipe out Kashmiri people for few goons. Kashmiris are our brothers and they are as much Indians as any. Only terrorists will be treated by our military and rightly so.
    " Most Kashmiri wants to be with India, they are our brothers".
    Indian Army kill "our brothers" on daily basis for fun----------------- so sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakLFC View Post
    100 more will be born for 1 that is killed. India knows this full well.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pakistanian View Post
    The only way India can eliminate Kashmiri nationalism is by wiping out all ethnic Kashmiris and that seems to be their strategy now.
    You guys decide which it is, and let us know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakistanian View Post
    There are Kashmiris from the Indian side on this forum and not one of them supports India or wants to be a part of that country. There was even a survey by the bbc and more than 90% of kashmiris wanted independence.
    I don't think Kashmiris do not have independence. They have all the democratic rights as other Indians and then a few more (Article 370).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    I don't think Kashmiris do not have independence. They have all the democratic rights as other Indians and then a few more (Article 370).
    I love it when Indians act all naive over the Kashmiri plight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    And they will be dealt with in the similar manner.
    When are you joining the army?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    And they will be dealt with in the similar manner.
    As will your soldiers will continue suffering as well thus the violence will continue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    You guys decide which it is, and let us know.
    I am not a Kashmiri. You have to ask them how they will continue fighting but they will do so for sure. Guaranteed!


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    @MenInG @Abdullah679 - Please correct thread tittle. These are not terrorists

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    Question: Why are freedom fighters called as terrorists?
    Yea this needs to be fixed immediately

    Mods please correct

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    Some of the extremist statements like “they will be dealt with in a similar manner” are appalling...

    It seems some people would rather kill a person then actually deal with the root cause of the problem..
    So whose the terrorist now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    Some of the extremist statements like ďthey will be dealt with in a similar mannerĒ are appalling...

    It seems some people would rather kill a person then actually deal with the root cause of the problem..
    So whose the terrorist now?
    Your analogy makes me laugh...sorry to say. They are being killed because they adopt the means of violence and attack Indian army. Irrespective of what their cause is, taking law into own hand and violence is no way to convince people of their cause. Of course if they protest for a cause in peaceful manner (which is anyones democratic right), they wont be killed. But if they wage war against army...they will also get the same treatment back.

    Every terrorist have some cause behind it. Osama Bin Laden didnt blow those twin towers off for fun but he also had a cause behind it. So should America have not killed him and address the cause first?

    Your analogy is apaling and concerning brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canford Cliffs View Post
    That is something you believe but not true at all. Most Kashmiris want to be a part of India, you got to listen to the recent speech of Omar Abdullah in India today conclave. Only few brainwashed ones pick arms against army. India will never wipe out Kashmiri people for few goons. Kashmiris are our brothers and they are as much Indians as any. Only terrorists will be treated by our military and rightly so.
    Two minute silence for you and Omer Abdullah.

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    Inna lillahi wa ina ilahi rajiíun

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    Some of the extremist statements like “they will be dealt with in a similar manner” are appalling...

    It seems some people would rather kill a person then actually deal with the root cause of the problem..
    So whose the terrorist now?
    If you don't kill a terrorist, he will kill 100's of innocent people and will justify his action. Unless someone is a psycho, taking a life is something nobody want to do. If this guy wanted to deal with his the root cause of the problem, he should have done in in non violent and lawful means. But he decided to take up arms and was dealt with in proper manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
    If you don't kill a terrorist, he will kill 100's of innocent people and will justify his action. Unless someone is a psycho, taking a life is something nobody want to do. If this guy wanted to deal with his the root cause of the problem, he should have done in in non violent and lawful means. But he decided to take up arms and was dealt with in proper manner.
    Lol,

    ainít no Indian occupying army and radicalized extremists Hindu nationalists in government respecting another Gandhi.

    Most donít respect the old Gandhi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipcatch View Post
    Lol,

    ainít no Indian occupying army and radicalized extremists Hindu nationalists in government respecting another Gandhi.

    Most donít respect the old Gandhi.
    There is nothing called as extremist Hindu nationalists. They are nationalists, yes but no extremists. Hindus can never been extremists because our entire ideology is based in Karma. Most of these so called Kashmiri freedom fighters belongs to organizations that are banned by UN and categorized as terror outfit. Not a single hindu nationalist party is banned. So you saying makes no difference at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipcatch View Post
    Lol,

    ain’t no Indian occupying army and radicalized extremists Hindu nationalists in government respecting another Gandhi.

    Most don’t respect the old Gandhi.
    I am trying to understand what you are saying here.
    If the terrorist want to fight the army with weapons, one of them is going to get killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canford Cliffs View Post
    There is nothing called as extremist Hindu nationalists. They are nationalists, yes but no extremists. Hindus can never been extremists because our entire ideology is based in Karma. Most of these so called Kashmiri freedom fighters belongs to organizations that are banned by UN and categorized as terror outfit. Not a single hindu nationalist party is banned. So you saying makes no difference at all.
    Ha ha

    The usual argument, just because UN hasnít labeled your beloved radicalized extremists group then whatever they are doing must be okay.

    For you as a supporter of radicalized extremist nationalists Hindu group it might make you content with your struggle to make India only Hindu again but it is a played out argument, which only work on those who are radicalized extremists nationalists hindu.

    Arenít most conservative groups are terrorist by nature or history of killing innocents.

    KKK
    EDL
    Taliban
    RSS

    Lol
    Last edited by slipcatch; 15th January 2019 at 21:32.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
    I am trying to understand what you are saying here.
    If the terrorist want to fight the army with weapons, one of them is going to get killed.
    My comment was in simple English.

    Try to read it again.

    But you meant to say people of Kashmir fighting to be free from an occupying army then their is a high probability that some one might get killed?

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    These are internationally banned terror groups.Thats the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipcatch View Post
    Ha ha

    The usual argument, just because UN hasnít labeled your beloved radicalized extremists group then whatever they are doing must be okay.

    For you as a supporter of radicalized extremist nationalists Hindu group it might make you content with your struggle to make India only Hindu again but it is a played out argument, which only work on those who are radicalized extremists nationalists hindu.

    Arenít most conservative groups are terrorist by nature or history of killing innocents.

    KKK
    EDL
    Taliban
    RSS

    Lol
    Not sure if I am following you. So are you saying we should not follow UN and somehow believe a random poster online? The fact is most Kashmiri groups are banned terror outfits...not a single hindu body is ever banned by any international law. You can file petition in court though to ban few hindu bodies and we will see how far your narrative goes. Until then its only your perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipcatch View Post
    My comment was in simple English.

    Try to read it again.

    But you meant to say people of Kashmir fighting to be free from an occupying army then their is a high probability that some one might get killed?
    "ain’t no Indian occupying army and radicalized extremists Hindu nationalists in government respecting another Gandhi. "
    Sorry man, I can't understand what that sentence mean.

    Kashmirs are not occupied, they are Indian citizens and can do what every Indian citizen can do. I am from Chennai and have never been to North India and my interaction with Indians from other parts is meeting them in Chennai. We rented our upstair portion of our house to a Kashmiri family in the 90's. He was in carpet business. The were not treated as second class citizens or restricted from doing anything. We were Christians and they were Muslims and each of us lived our lives.
    Look what happened to Tamils who were seeking freedom from Srilanka. When you fight with someone the stronger person will win. Do you want the army personnel get killed by some brainwashed terrorist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canford Cliffs View Post
    Not sure if I am following you. So are you saying we should not follow UN and somehow believe a random poster online? The fact is most Kashmiri groups are banned terror outfits...not a single hindu body is ever banned by any international law. You can file petition in court though to ban few hindu bodies and we will see how far your narrative goes. Until then its only your perspective.

    Hahaha

    Thanks for stating the obvious.

    KKK is an organization which has killed many just like many radicalized extremists Hindu nationalists cow vigilante.

    A group of radicalized extremists religious group just like RSS.

    Just because they exist and arenít probably banned by UN does not mean they arenít radicalized extremists nationalists religious groups.

    I donít know how things work in India but in a first world country, if it is revealed you are a part of a radicalized extremists nationalists religious group then you get your life ruined, but the way things are in India, I think it is appreciated and get you far to be a radicalized extremists Hindu nationalist.

    Taliban
    EDL
    KKK
    RSS, are all religious extremists racist nationalists groups, who has perverted their respected religion to stay in power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipcatch View Post
    Hahaha

    Thanks for stating the obvious.

    KKK is an organization which has killed many just like many radicalized extremists Hindu nationalists cow vigilante.

    A group of radicalized extremists religious group just like RSS.

    Just because they exist and arenít probably banned by UN does not mean they arenít radicalized extremists nationalists religious groups.

    I donít know how things work in India but in a first world country, if it is revealed you are a part of a radicalized extremists nationalists religious group then you get your life ruined, but the way things are in India, I think it is appreciated and get you far to be a radicalized extremists Hindu nationalist.

    Taliban
    EDL
    KKK
    RSS, are all religious extremists racist nationalists groups, who has perverted their respected religion to stay in power.
    Not understanding it at all. Where is this "Just because UN has not banned" coming from? Sorry to say...you are losing me. Its not some local Karachi investigation agency we are talking about, its UN for heavens sake

    There cant be any "Just because". They are a responsible organization felicitated by various countries/intelligence agancy and before they term any outfit as terrorist group, they do adequate amount of investigation. Its like saying supreme court has accused a person as murderer but I am saying just because supreme court saying, I aint one. Do you realize how ridiculous it sounds?

    Your claim of calling RSS a terror outfit is funnier than your country tried to prove Kulbhusan as Indian spy infront of international court, which they outright rejected.

    Look, you can use any adjectives with RSS you want like extremists, lynchers, racists etc. but there wont be any buyer bcoz no responsible body has accused them of anything. RSS is a registered charity organization as per govt records and that is all matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canford Cliffs View Post
    Not understanding it at all. Where is this "Just because UN has not banned" coming from? Sorry to say...you are losing me. Its not some local Karachi investigation agency we are talking about, its UN for heavens sake

    There cant be any "Just because". They are a responsible organization felicitated by various countries/intelligence agancy and before they term any outfit as terrorist group, they do adequate amount of investigation. Its like saying supreme court has accused a person as murderer but I am saying just because supreme court saying, I aint one. Do you realize how ridiculous it sounds?

    Your claim of calling RSS a terror outfit is funnier than your country tried to prove Kulbhusan as Indian spy infront of international court, which they outright rejected.

    Look, you can use any adjectives with RSS you want like extremists, lynchers, racists etc. but there wont be any buyer bcoz no responsible body has accused them of anything. RSS is a registered charity organization as per govt records and that is all matters.
    RSS is an radicalized extremists nationalists Hindu organization, similar to KKK.

    Difference is it is appreaciated by vast majority of of India whereas in a first world countries, KKK isnít.

    Now read it slowly but I still doubt youíll comprehend since you are part of radicalized extremists nationalists Hindu party.

    You can play with words but it doesnít change that RSS wants to make Hindu again, just like KKK wants to make US white again.

    Between KKK isnít banned by UN either. Lol

    But keep repeating UN lol

    Lol
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    EDL- wants to make British white again
    KKK- wants to make US white again
    Taliban- wants to make Afghanistan Muslim again
    RSS- wants to make India Hindu again.

    Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipcatch View Post
    RSS is an radicalized extremists nationalists Hindu organization, similar to KKK.

    Difference is it is appreaciated by vast majority of of India whereas in a first world countries, KKK isnít.

    Now read it slowly but I still doubt youíll comprehend since you are part of radicalized extremists nationalists Hindu party.

    You can play with words but it doesnít change that RSS wants to make Hindu again, just like KKK wants to make US white again.

    Between KKK isnít banned by UN either. Lol

    But keep repeating UN lol

    Lol
    Sorry you are contradicting yourself totally now. You are saying RSS is appreciated by majority Indians bcoz India is a 3rd world country but KKK isn't bcoz they belong to first world. But both are not banned as a terror outfit by UN (based in 1st world)

    Brother, its sometimes better to accept that you have nothing substantiate to debate. Also, I just saw you have listed even EDL with Taliban....oh dear

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipcatch View Post
    EDL- wants to make British white again
    KKK- wants to make US white again
    Taliban- wants to make Afghanistan Muslim again
    RSS- wants to make India Hindu again.

    Lol
    Yes but only Taliban is a formally banned terror outfit by international law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canford Cliffs View Post
    Sorry you are contradicting yourself totally now. You are saying RSS is appreciated by majority Indians bcoz India is a 3rd world country but KKK isn't bcoz they belong to first world. But both are not banned as a terror outfit by UN (based in 1st world)

    Brother, its sometimes better to accept that you have nothing substantiate to debate. Also, I just saw you have listed even EDL with Taliban....oh dear
    Not your brother.so relax on that.

    Rest, itís just words in an attempt to legitimize your radicalized extremists nationalists religious conservative beliefs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Canford Cliffs View Post
    Yes but only Taliban is a formally banned terror outfit by international law.
    Yay!
    Just because rest arenít labeled previously then that make them pious grouos to spread peace against humanity as long as they are Christian, white and hindu.

    Congrats

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipcatch View Post
    Not your brother.so relax on that.

    Rest, itís just words in an attempt to legitimize your radicalized extremists nationalists religious conservative beliefs.
    Not sure how much you studied law...but you legitimize something or someone when charged. There has been no charges against RSS/Other hindu bodies by any law (international/India). So where is the question of legitimization?

    If you are saying, that its your belief that RSS is an extremist organization....I have no complains. Everyone has the right to say whatever they want...even many in India says the same. But legally it holds no value unless someone proves it. Rest all just opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canford Cliffs View Post
    Not sure how much you studied law...but you legitimize something or someone when charged. There has been no charges against RSS/Other hindu bodies by any law (international/India). So where is the question of legitimization?

    If you are saying, that its your belief that RSS is an extremist organization....I have no complains. Everyone has the right to say whatever they want...even many in India says the same. But legally it holds no value unless someone proves it. Rest all just opinions.
    Lol,

    Man is bringing in the ďlawĒ for his beloved radicalized extremists Hindu nationalis RSS to be legitimate group on a forum.

    Iíve seen everything, hate needs to be protected by law, now.

    Sadly Amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canford Cliffs View Post
    Your analogy makes me laugh...sorry to say. They are being killed because they adopt the means of violence and attack Indian army. Irrespective of what their cause is, taking law into own hand and violence is no way to convince people of their cause. Of course if they protest for a cause in peaceful manner (which is anyones democratic right), they wont be killed. But if they wage war against army...they will also get the same treatment back.

    Every terrorist have some cause behind it. Osama Bin Laden didnt blow those twin towers off for fun but he also had a cause behind it. So should America have not killed him and address the cause first?

    Your analogy is apaling and concerning brother.
    It made you laugh where as in reality it should make you cry.

    To see a chest beating statement such as £they will be dealt with in a similar manner" is a sick statement.

    What you and the other Nationalists here fail to see, and it's simply staring you in the face, is that by killing you are only making a kid grow up in hate and suppression who then grows up to feel they must take drastic action and so this circle of life and death continues.

    Freedom fighters or terrorists, however you label them, at one stage they were someone's babies, innocent children who felt they had to give up their lives for their cause.

    If you roll it back to when they were innocent children and try to understand their plight or even try to understand how they were radicalised like this then and only then can this chilling loos of life by stemmed.

    Some of the chest thumping statements only show a lack of humanity.

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    OP has a history of posting threads about Kashmir on a Pakistan based forum, can only assume it is an effort to troll the resident members.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    OP has a history of posting threads about Kashmir on a Pakistan based forum, can only assume it is an effort to troll the resident members.
    Posting legitimate news is now labelled as trolling?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    Posting legitimate news is now labelled as trolling?
    It was an assumption, not a label. Neither did I discredit the legitimacy of the news.You yourself opened one of your own threads by claiming it was not a trolling attempt, which probably had some unintended subliminal effect which led to the assumption.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    Posting legitimate news is now labelled as trolling?
    These people are internationally banned terrorist. Denial here wont change that fact.


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